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Today's Topics:
1. Re: For all the kind souls who care so much
(dlg...@windstream.net)
2. Re: FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
(dlg...@windstream.net)
3. Re: FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat (Ardy
Robertson)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:43:48 -0600
From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] For all the kind souls who care so much
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my neighbors all think I am crazy also, in fact they call me the crazy
cat lady. one even said all catsd and stray dogs are good for is
target practice and I told himstay away from my house or he will end
up on the ground beside my cats.
You do what gives you pleasure and caring for our cats gives pleasure.
the love they give us can not be measured and being alone at 76, i
think i would loose my sanity if they were not here to give me love
and companship.
---- Randy Henke wrote:
I am new to this mailing list, our precious cat, Curly, having been
just
recently diagnosed with FELV but already quite sick twice and just
beginning to rally (fingers crossed) from her second bout with severe
anemia and leukopenia.
I just wanted to say how much I admire every one of you here who go
to such
great lengths for their pets, nursing them back from the brink time
and
again, spending hundreds or thousands of dollars for treatment after
treatment to give them as much time with us as we possibly can.
My wife and I are both surrounded by friends and co-workers who think
we
are fools for caring so much about an animal. They ask why we are so
melancholy and then look at us with disbelief when we tell them the
reason.
Their philosophy is to take good care of their pets but when they get
seriously ill, it's time to put them down and move on.
To me, such thinking could only come from cold, heartless and selfish
individuals. Sometimes I actually envy them because life would be so
much
easier if I could think like they do. But I can't and I won't. Just
because
a family member has four legs instead of two doesn't diminish their
worth
nor does it detract from their will to live. We do them an egregious
disservice by shortening their lives when there are still viable
options on
the table that can provide additional months or even weeks of quality
life.
The devotion and empathy that you people have for your cats is so
touching
to me that I am sitting here right now crying.
God bless every one of you.
Randy
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:46:23 -0600
From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
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My vet even gave me a bag os saline and now I can start the fluids
when necessary. I just call for a fresh bag.
---- Amani Oakley wrote:
Sherri
Even without the issue of jaundice, if Bogey is dehydrated, the urine
will be darker.
Sherri, do you know how to give subcutaneous fluids? It is very easy.
Perhaps ask your vet to show you how. You just lift the loose skin at
the back of the neck, and you inject or run fluids into that gap
under the skin, behind the neck. The body will absorb the fluids as
needed, so there is virtually no risk of giving too much fluid ? any
excess fluid is just peed out.
It is a life-saving technique that I wouldn?t be without. I always
keep several bags of fluid in the house (ringer?s lactate/saline/5%
dextrose ? I hang onto any bags I can get) for use in an emergency. A
droopy cat will often respond immediately and miraculously to
subcutaneous fluids ? usually saline or the ringer?s lactate.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink.
I think chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But
the last time she urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe
this is expected? She does have more bounce in her step. Walking
straighter lines and less wobbly. She is fighting me feeding her
which is more her style. She meowed at me today when I called her
name. What a wonderful sound that was.
From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it
around.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 8:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Hi Amani. This morning?s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up
some baby food today. She isn?t refusing to eat. She just is really
too weak. If I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does
great. Almost a half of a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not
vomited. I thought about milk but she has yet to have a bowel
movement and I didn?t want to constipate her more. I think I will
offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I think I will
pick up some Whiskas today too.
I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so
soon. I thought that was not a good plan.
Thanks for the input Amani.
From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Sherri
There isn?t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait.
Her haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely
upon. Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to
rest for a while.
It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which
you can syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that
the first urine was orange but the next wasn?t. She is hopefully
clearing out the bilirubin. I think fluids are important to help with
that, too. Have you tried some very diluted milk or some Whiskas
milk? That might encourage her to drink some more.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Just a little update for any of you following Bogey?s progress here
or others who find these posts helpful.
First day home from hospital. She of course wasn?t interested in
eating. But I would sit with her and she would lick Hill?s L/d and
a/d from my finger. She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I
gave her about a tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am
giving her water and a few drops of Pedialite each time. The first
time she urinated it was very orange about 2 pm. She didn?t urinate
again until last night around 10 and was clear. She actually went to
her water dish last night and took a couple of laps. She is still
weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still seems out of it
though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital so I am
just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right now
with a heating pad on her.
She isn?t suffering or getting worse.
I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if
the jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel
stronger.
Thanks for reading.
Sherri
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 22:17:12 -0600
From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW:
Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
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Another suggestion on getting a cat to drink??clam juice in a bottle.
When my kitties were sick one winter they would not drink anything,
and I had to get sub-q fluids at the vet?s. I can?t seem to handle
giving the fluids myself. Anyway the clam juice has a fishy smell and
they seem to love it. My older cat drinks too much of it and sometimes
throws up but now I don?t give her that much. I also keep some on hand
for a treat ? we call it a kitty cocktail. The juice from tuna in
water is another option.
Good luck with Bogey,
Ardy
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Amani Oakley
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Sherri
Even without the issue of jaundice, if Bogey is dehydrated, the urine
will be darker.
Sherri, do you know how to give subcutaneous fluids? It is very easy.
Perhaps ask your vet to show you how. You just lift the loose skin at
the back of the neck, and you inject or run fluids into that gap under
the skin, behind the neck. The body will absorb the fluids as needed,
so there is virtually no risk of giving too much fluid ? any excess
fluid is just peed out.
It is a life-saving technique that I wouldn?t be without. I always
keep several bags of fluid in the house (ringer?s lactate/saline/5%
dextrose ? I hang onto any bags I can get) for use in an emergency. A
droopy cat will often respond immediately and miraculously to
subcutaneous fluids ? usually saline or the ringer?s lactate.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW:
Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink. I
think chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But the
last time she urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe this
is expected? She does have more bounce in her step. Walking straighter
lines and less wobbly. She is fighting me feeding her which is more
her style. She meowed at me today when I called her name. What a
wonderful sound that was.
From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it
around.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 8:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW:
Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Hi Amani. This morning?s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up
some baby food today. She isn?t refusing to eat. She just is really
too weak. If I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does
great. Almost a half of a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not
vomited. I thought about milk but she has yet to have a bowel movement
and I didn?t want to constipate her more. I think I will offer her
some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I think I will pick up
some Whiskas today too.
I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so
soon. I thought that was not a good plan.
Thanks for the input Amani.
From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " >
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
Sherri
There isn?t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait.
Her haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely
upon. Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest
for a while.
It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you
can syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the
first urine was orange but the next wasn?t. She is hopefully clearing
out the bilirubin. I think fluids are important to help with that,
too. Have you tried some very diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That
might encourage her to drink some more.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on
Bogey My FELV + Cat
Just a little update for any of you following Bogey?s progress here or
others who find these posts helpful.
First day home from hospital. She of course wasn?t interested in
eating. But I would sit with her and she would lick Hill?s L/d and a/d
from my finger. She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave
her about a tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving
her water and a few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she
urinated it was very orange about 2 pm. She didn?t urinate again until
last night around 10 and was clear. She actually went to her water
dish last night and took a couple of laps. She is still weak and
wobbly. But she know where things are. Still seems out of it though. I
doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital so I am just letting
her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right now with a
heating pad on her.
She isn?t suffering or getting worse.
I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if
the jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel
stronger.
Thanks for reading.
Sherri
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