Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Any ideas please Bramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week - his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for him but I think his throat is too sore. This has been for 2 days now. His vet had said wait for 5 days on antibiotics last week but the day after I got him on Interferon Omega when he sneezed blood. He has just finished his first 5 injections. He has been more affect the last 2 days so I'm pleased I got him on Interferon again fast. Any ideas for feeding (I've left him some baby food out this morning without much success and tried fish for the smell) I really think it is his throat that is sore - he goes back to the vet tonight. Michelle, Bramble, Buddy Minstrel Michelle
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Have you tried chilling the food or heating it--chilling is what comes to mind for people. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Bramble can't eat - ideas please Any ideas please Bramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week - his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for him but I think his throat is too sore. This has been for 2 days now. His vet had said wait for 5 days on antibiotics last week but the day after I got him on Interferon Omega when he sneezed blood. He has just finished his first 5 injections. He has been more affect the last 2 days so I'm pleased I got him on Interferon again fast. Any ideas for feeding (I've left him some baby food out this morning without much success and tried fish for the smell) I really think it is his throat that is sore - he goes back to the vet tonight. Michelle, Bramble, Buddy Minstrel Michelle
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Chilling food sounds like it might help make it easier on poor Bramble's throat. Blending, or liquefying might help. He may need you to assist-feed him to help him get started. There's a recipe for liver shake, but I would substitute the tomato/V8 juice, (maybe plain chicken broth?), it would probably be too acidic for a sore throat. Have you tried offering him stuff like ice cream, or sour cream? If you do end up assist-feeding, and he likes yogurt, ice cream, or sour cream, you could offer him those afterward. Cherie, are you reading this? It sounds like this might be what was going on with Snowball, isn't that the name of your kitty with the blood, do you think so? Here's the liver shake recipe from Michelle Lerner: Liver Shake: 1 cup raw liver (chicken or beef, I use chicken) 1 cup fresh carrot juice, tomato juice, or V-8 1/4 cup filtered water 1 raw egg yolk 1 tsp kelp or spirulina Blend until liquid and frothy. If cat will not eat it, syringe 10 cc every 3 hours up to a max of 60 cc/day. I make it in half batches (though use a whole egg yolk), and warm up small amounts for Simon. I had to put it on his lips the first few times to get him to eat it. it is supposed to be complete nutrition. Nina maimaipg wrote: Have you tried chilling the food or heating it--chilling is what comes to mind for people. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Bramble can't eat - ideas please Any ideas please Bramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week - his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for him but I think his throat is too sore. This has been for 2 days now. His vet had said wait for 5 days on antibiotics last week but the day after I got him on Interferon Omega when he sneezed blood. He has just finished his first 5 injections. He has been more affect the last 2 days so I'm pleased I got him on Interferon again fast. Any ideas for feeding (I've left him some baby food out this morning without much success and tried fish for the smell) I really think it is his throat that is sore - he goes back to the vet tonight. Michelle, Bramble, Buddy Minstrel Michelle
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
1. Get your vet to give him Immuno-regulin, which you can order cheaply online if he does not have it. I really think it helps them get over infections and viruses faster. 2. To soothe his mouth and throat, syringe him slippery elm syrup. You can get powdered slippery elm at a health food store, or in capsules. Mix it with boiling water (I used capsules and it was 5 capsules to a cup of water, I think) and stir until dissolved. Turn off heat and keep stirring until it has a syrupy consistency. Let it cool down and syringe him a couple of cc's a few times a day-- syringe it slowly so it goes down slowly and coats his throat. I use slippery elm lozenges myself when I have sore throats-- it is a gentle age-old remedy and is fine for cats (also good for diarrhea and constipation and nausea by the way, and has nutrients). 3. I would syringe feed him, something very blended and liquidy, so he does not get sicker from not eating. You might want to do it shortly after giving the slippery elm so his throat feels better. Michelle In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:47:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any ideas pleaseBramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week - his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for him but I think his throat is too sore. This has been for 2 days now. His vet had said wait for 5 days on antibiotics last week but the day after I got him on Interferon Omega when he sneezed blood. He has just finished his first 5 injections. He has been more affect the last 2 days so I'm pleased I got him on Interferon again fast. Any ideas for feeding (I've left him some baby food out this morning without much success and tried fish for the smell)I really think it is his throat that is sore - he goes back to the vet tonight.Michelle, Bramble, Buddy MinstrelMichelle
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Poor Bramble! He has such bad luck! No newideas here, just wanted to offer some support and good wishes to you and Bramble. Personally, I would force-feed if it is more than 2 days without food. Try and see if he will lick a bit of honey off your finger, that makes my throat feel better sometimes, and it will get a little sugar in his system, so he wont crash from low blood sugar. I've had cats survive on very little force fed Nutri-Cal gel. If you have to force feed, and it hurts him, get some of the most potent stuff you can, so you can do as little as possible, and get as much nutrition in him as you can. JennAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/ ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
I would definitely try a little syringe feeding. A/D food for ill animals easily mixes with water. It may perk up his appetite. Cats who go too long without eating will get Hepatic Lipidosis. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 3:46 am Subject: Bramble can't eat - ideas please Any ideas please Bramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week - his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for him but I think his throat is too sore. This has been for 2 days now. His vet had said wait for 5 days on antibiotics last week but the day after I got him on Interferon Omega when he sneezed blood. He has just finished his first 5 injections. He has been more affect the last 2 days so I'm pleased I got him on Interferon again fast. Any ideas for feeding (I've left him some baby food out this morning without much success and tried fish for the smell) I really think it is his throat that is sore - he goes back to the vet tonight. Michelle, Bramble, Buddy Minstrel Michelle
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Nutrical is probably the best choice, since it's made for cats. I hadn't heard about giving cats honey, I know there's a reason you're not suppose to give it to human babies, can't remember why though. I think it would be safer to give white Karo corn syrup. That's one of the ingredients in the homemade kitten formula I use, so I know it's safe. Just a little might sooth and energize Bramble enough to want to eat. Prayers for Bramble, Nina Jenn wrote: Poor Bramble! He has such bad luck! No new ideas here, just wanted to offer some support and good wishes to you and Bramble. Personally, I would force-feed if it is more than 2 days without food. Try and see if he will lick a bit of honey off your finger, that makes my throat feel better sometimes, and it will get a little sugar in his system, so he wont crash from low blood sugar. I've had cats survive on very little force fed Nutri-Cal gel. If you have to force feed, and it hurts him, get some of the most potent stuff you can, so you can do as little as possible, and get as much nutrition in him as you can. Jenn Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/ ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned. Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm themselves. This is for desperate measures only--obviously. If it is between life and death, this might be an option.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nutrical is probably the best choice, since it's made for cats. I hadn't heard about giving cats honey, I know there's a reason you're not suppose to give it to human babies, can't remember why though. I think it would be safer to give white Karo corn syrup. That's one of the ingredients in the homemade kitten formula I use, so I know it's safe. Just a little might sooth and energize Bramble enough to want to eat. Prayers for Bramble,NinaJenn wrote: Poor Bramble! He has such bad luck! No new ideas here, just wanted to offer some support and good wishes to you and Bramble. Personally, I would force-feed if it is more than 2 days without food. Try and see if he will lick a bit of honey off your finger, that makes my throat feel better sometimes, and it will get a little sugar in his system, so he wont crash from low blood sugar. I've had cats survive on very little force fed Nutri-Cal gel. If you have to force feed, and it hurts him, get some of the most potent stuff you can, so you can do as little as possible, and get as much nutrition in him as you can. Jenn Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/ ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
I think Bramble is already hungry, he doesn't want to eat because of his ulcerated nose and Michelle (Lomax) suspects his throat hurts. We were trying to come up with things that would be soothing. Nina Lewis Faye wrote: Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned. Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm themselves. This is for desperate measures only--obviously. If it is between life and death, this might be an option.
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
The reason why you don't give it to human babies isbecause honey has been known to contain Botulismspores. Human babies are notorously unhealthy little fragile things. Most cats shouldn't beeffected in any way, even if they do get a dab of contaminated honey. In fact, I can quote the ONLYcase ever known of wherea cat contractedBotulism from eating anything: http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/42/11/5406 No cases of cats contracting it via honey have everbeen reported. Here's a clip from another webpage on the subject: Botulism: Botulism is caused by Clostridium botulinum. Animals get it from ingesting preformed toxin in contaminated food. Honey is a major source of botulism toxin. There have been no natural cases reported in the cat. Most dogs are relatively resistant, however it is seen in the dog. Dogs with botulism become progressively weaker and weaker until they are unable to stand. They have decreased jaw tone (so the jaw drops), salivate excessively, and have a weak bark. The disease can be diagnosed by finding toxin in blood, feces or organs. Therapy consists of antitoxin and supportive care. Fortunately, dogs can recover. Botulism toxin can be inactivated by heating food to high temperatures (80 degrees Celsius for 30 minutes or 100 degrees Celcius for 10 minutes.) Also, prevent your pet from eating carcasses. That being said, Anything thick and able to coat the throat will help though. Karo is probably safer. Here are some websites that sayhoney is safe, and even recommended for pets: http://www.pets4life.com/index.php?p=research/articles/13 http://www.purelypets.com/articles/epilepsyarticle.htm http://www.homemade4life.com/faqs.html JennAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/ ~~~Nutrical is probably the best choice, since it's made for cats. I hadn't heard about giving cats honey, I know there's a reason you're not suppose to give it to human babies, can't remember why though. I think it would be safer to give white Karo corn syrup. That's one of the ingredients in the homemade kitten formula I use, so I know it's safe. Just a little might sooth and energize Bramble enough to want to eat. Prayers for Bramble,Nina No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
It has to be given IV to stimulate appetite. Michelle In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned. Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm themselves. This is for desperate measures only--obviously. If it is between life and death, this might be an option.
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Oh Macarena, I'm so sorry for your losses. You're right we do understand what you are talking about. You are probably right too about never finding another that will touch you in exactly the same way as your Kurt. What a wonderful gift he gave to you, to open your mind and heart to the wonders of appreciating cats! My heart-kitty that did the same for me was named Trouble, he's gone now too, but I will always be grateful to him. At the risk of being considered even crazier than I already am... When my Jazzy passed, I felt kind of foolish about it, but I just couldn't stand the thought of never calling her to me again. I used to call her in a special sing-songy way that she just loved to come running too. Whenever I thought about never calling her like that again, I'd get a lump in my throat that just about strangled me. One day, when no one else but my animals were around, I gave in and through my tears called to my Jazz. It's making me cry, just writing about it. It was such a bittersweet relief! I think you should call to your Kurt when you go to bed, do it quietly, or to yourself, but call him and tap the pillow. I'm positive he'll be there in spirit, (as he is already). He loves you still, just as you do him. Much love to you and your nephews, Nina maca cats wrote: hi dear group, i have been mostly lurking lately, and so sad for recent losses, yours and mine, that I couldn't write, kind of a frozen state... I want to send hugs for evey one of you that is struggling with disease and of course for all of you who have lost a dear friend recently. here it has been a hard battle too. on may 27 our lovely Riso died ater a terrible night. He had been diagnosed with pancreatitis, which is fatal, and given 2 months to live. he lived for 8 months of reasonable life quality with our care, but finally his little body couldn'fight any longer, and his last night he spent almost in comma, with an IV line at home, at bed with us, and he died peacefully in his sleep. I could bear it because we knes he was going to die, so we were at peace since we gave him the best we could. but then Kurt got sick..he was the light of my lie, 9 1/2 yo, he was the one who made me understand cats, we communicated with each other in a way I fear i will never be able to with any other creature. I miss him so much. he died on july 17, and i couldn't stop holding him until we buried him, he was cold and stiff, ... I never had so much trouble letting go... I still feear to go to bed every night, because my instinct is always to call him. he slept by my side, with his little paw over my neck for years, now i misss him as if a part of my body is gone...I know only you can understand what I am talking about... Belinda, could you please add Riso and Kurt to the CLS? it helps to see them remembered in some place. Also could you please add Canelo, an adorable orange tabby who belonged to my nephews, and was killed by a car last july 27. thank you so much for being theer, at the end of the line. sad Macarena and the 13 furballs. Chile
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I'm so sorry to hear about your losses! I do know how it is to lose the one that sleeps with you. Moogie was my bed buddy... and it took me weeks to stop crying at night because I always called her before I went to bed "Who's coming to bed with mommy?" and she would come follow me to the bed, and lay beside me under the covers. It's SO hard to let go of the really precious ones. You have my condolences. Jenn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Have you tried chilling Just Born or one of the mother's milk products on the market---calories + protein + formulated for catsmaybe mixed with AD - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please I think Bramble is already hungry, he doesn't want to eat because of his ulcerated nose and Michelle (Lomax) suspects his throat hurts. We were trying to come up with things that would be soothing. Nina Lewis Faye wrote: Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned. Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm themselves. This is for desperate measures only--obviously. If it is between life and death, this might be an option.
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
My vet gave it orally to a cat of mine and it worked great. However, if the cat is already hungry it seems unnecessary. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please It has to be given IV to stimulate appetite. Michelle In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned. Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm themselves. This is for desperate measures only--obviously. If it is between life and death, this might be an option.
Re: CLS for belinda and all the group
Macarena, I am so sorry for your loss of Riso and Kurt. Big hugs, Del - Original Message - From: maca cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: CLS for belinda and all the group hi dear group,i have been mostly lurking lately, and so sad for recent losses, yoursand mine, that I couldn't write, kind of a frozen state...I want to send hugs for evey one of you that is struggling with diseaseand of course for all of you who have lost a dear friend recently. here it has been a hard battle too. on may 27 our lovely Riso died atera terrible night. He had been diagnosed with pancreatitis, which isfatal, and given 2 months to live. he lived for 8 months of reasonablelife quality with our care, but finally his little body couldn'fight anylonger, and his last night he spent almost in comma, with an IV line athome, at bed with us, and he died peacefully in his sleep. I could bearit because we knes he was going to die, so we were at peace since wegave him the best we could.but then Kurt got sick..he was the light of my lie, 9 1/2 yo, he was theone who made me understand cats, we communicated with each other in away I fear i will never be able to with any other creature. I miss himso much. he died on july 17, and i couldn't stop holding him until weburied him, he was cold and stiff, ... I never had so much troubleletting go... I still feear to go to bed every night, because myinstinct is always to call him. he slept by my side, with his little pawover my neck for years, now i misss him as if a part of my body isgone...I know only you can understand what I am talking about...Belinda, could you please add Riso and Kurt to the CLS? it helps to seethem remembered in some place. Also could you please add Canelo, anadorable orange tabby who belonged to my nephews, and was killed by acar last july 27. thank you so much for being theer, at the end of the line.sad Macarena and the 13 furballs.Chile
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Macarena, I am so sorry about your nephew's loss and of course yours. The loss of Kurt reminds me of my Grayson who died this winter. He was my first cat and led me to the path I am following now. He was so smart and loving. He adopted me when he was outside and wound his way into my heart and home. He used to call me to bed and then gently lie on my head all night. In the morning, if he felt I overslept he would gently tap my face with his paw, but if I did not wake up, out came the claws (gentle but persistant). I know the sadness one can feel when their special ones leave. It is an aloneness which nevr seems to go completely away. But it also leaves a tender memory which remains in your heart forever. Take care, Joanmaca cats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi dear group,i have been mostly lurking lately, and so sad for recent losses, yoursand mine, that I couldn't write, kind of a frozen state...I want to send hugs for evey one of you that is struggling with diseaseand of course for all of you who have lost a dear friend recently. here it has been a hard battle too. on may 27 our lovely Riso died atera terrible night. He had been diagnosed with pancreatitis, which isfatal, and given 2 months to live. he lived for 8 months of reasonablelife quality with our care, but finally his little body couldn'fight anylonger, and his last night he spent almost in comma, with an IV line athome, at bed with us, and he died peacefully in his sleep. I could bearit because we knes he was going to die, so we were at peace since wegave him the best we could.but then Kurt got sick..he was the light of my lie, 9 1/2 yo, he was theone who made me understand cats, we communicated with each other in away I fear i will never be able to with any other creature. I miss himso much. he died on july 17, and i couldn't stop holding him until weburied him, he was cold and stiff, ... I never had so much troubleletting go... I still feear to go to bed every night, because myinstinct is always to call him. he slept by my side, with his little pawover my neck for years, now i misss him as if a part of my body isgone...I know only you can understand what I am talking about...Belinda, could you please add Riso and Kurt to the CLS? it helps to seethem remembered in some place. Also could you please add Canelo, anadorable orange tabby who belonged to my nephews, and was killed by acar last july 27. thank you so much for being theer, at the end of the line.sad Macarena and the 13 furballs.Chile
Re: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
I have tried clam juice on top of his favorite food as well..or little cottage cheese.. I have to agree with the a/d. I have had good results when someone is off food with the a/d. Also, I have used with good results evap. milk. egg yolk and white karo syrup.. Hope he feels better soon. Kerry and Bandy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I forgot to mention that my Bandy is on oxazepam transdermal for appetite stimulant..It seems to be working good with no side effects.. He receives this twice daily..You might ask your vet about that...It really seems to work... Kerry R.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Actually A/D is very similar to the meat part of Liver Shake that a lot of us have usedI have found that adding a little tomato juice to A/D seems to taste extra good to a cat that is not eating well... Tad Kerry Roach wrote: I have tried clam juice on top of his favorite food as well..or little cottage cheese.. I have to agree with the a/d. I have had good results when someone is off food with the a/d. Also, I have used with good results evap. milk. egg yolk and white karo syrup.. Hope he feels better soon. Kerry and Bandy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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But if his throat is raw and that is the problem, the tomato juice, while tasting good, would probably sting. I still recommend trying slippery elm for the soreness. Michelle In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:08:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually A/D is very similar to the meat part of Liver Shake that a lot of us have usedI have found that adding a little tomato juice to A/D seems to taste extra good to a cat that is not eating well...Tad
Re: CLS for belinda and all the group
Goodnight, sweet Riso and Kurt... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Del Daniels To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: Re: CLS for belinda and all the group Macarena, I am so sorry for your loss of Riso and Kurt. Big hugs, Del - Original Message - From: maca cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: CLS for belinda and all the group hi dear group,i have been mostly lurking lately, and so sad for recent losses, yoursand mine, that I couldn't write, kind of a frozen state...I want to send hugs for evey one of you that is struggling with diseaseand of course for all of you who have lost a dear friend recently. here it has been a hard battle too. on may 27 our lovely Riso died atera terrible night. He had been diagnosed with pancreatitis, which isfatal, and given 2 months to live. he lived for 8 months of reasonablelife quality with our care, but finally his little body couldn'fight anylonger, and his last night he spent almost in comma, with an IV line athome, at bed with us, and he died peacefully in his sleep. I could bearit because we knes he was going to die, so we were at peace since wegave him the best we could.but then Kurt got sick..he was the light of my lie, 9 1/2 yo, he was theone who made me understand cats, we communicated with each other in away I fear i will never be able to with any other creature. I miss himso much. he died on july 17, and i couldn't stop holding him until weburied him, he was cold and stiff, ... I never had so much troubleletting go... I still feear to go to bed every night, because myinstinct is always to call him. he slept by my side, with his little pawover my neck for years, now i misss him as if a part of my body isgone...I know only you can understand what I am talking about...Belinda, could you please add Riso and Kurt to the CLS? it helps to seethem remembered in some place. Also could you please add Canelo, anadorable orange tabby who belonged to my nephews, and was killed by acar last july 27. thank you so much for being theer, at the end of the line.sad Macarena and the 13 furballs.Chile
Brambles trip to the vet
Thanks for your ideas - I will store and try. Well I panicked but the vet was fairly calm. When I put Bramble in his carry case to go vet he sulked and slammed his tail down covering his bottom - I wonder if he remembered the temperature taking last visit bless him. I told the vet what had happened so far as me ordering the interferon without waiting until today to discuss it and boy am I glad I got him on it straight away. The evt said that it isn't common for calici to present with an ulcer on the nose and no mouth ulceration so I said it happened last time - there were no mouth ulcers but I suspect his throat is inflammed and maybe ulcerated and the he gets the one on his nose. I told him that he is desperate to eat and frantically tries but can't eat much as I thought his throat was sore and he drools a bit trying to eat. Bramble has eaten bits but not much so he hasn't totally gone without food for 2 days - I did try to force food in his mouth a couple of times and he had a little each time but I stopped when he was getting too stressed by it. The vetprodded the ulceron his little nose and it made him flinch and bled (poor Bramble hated that). He also felt his throat which was very uncomfortable for Bramble so at least it confirmed that I was right to say it is his throat. The vet gave him a shot of anabolic steroid and we may do one shot a month. Due to Bramble being probably towards the end of the ARC stage of FIV it is worth taking the chance - it may keep him out of FAIDS a while longer. I am also discussing the interferon shots every month as a trial protocol as a couple other people have found this beneficial. Good thing is that Bramble ate about half a sachet of well mashed cat food when he came home which was a great relief - after he had only eaten about 1/8th this morning. The vet told me to give him strong cod-liver oil and a vitamin A each day for 2 weeks and then to reduce vits and oil to every other day - he says we won't reach toxicity levels so will be ok. He said try mixing butter with food to help it slide down, chilled cream, cottage cheese, melted cheese around mashed chicked etc... I will try all that works. Poor little boy gone through so much and yet is still desperate to try and eat something to sit on my knee and purr - is there anywhere that members upload photos too here on group site - I got a great picture of him on Sat sat on my knee lapping up the tlc. A lady was having her 16year old dog put to sleep today at the vets and she had to lift the dog to stand it up whilst crying - when she went in - 3 of us sat in the waiting room with tears welling up - then the vet came out to get a consent form and we were all wiping tears falling from our eyes for the dog we had never seen before - amazing how much animals touch the heart. Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy. PS - I'd like to add my thoughts and prayers to all of us who's furbabies are currently poorly or have recently passed over - I pray their souls are safe when I ask for my current and departed to be protected.
OT: Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05
Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05, she will be euthanized thursday if no home or foster home is found for her. Please post to all your resources!! Located in NJ I believe, her full ad link is below: http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10866 She has been waiting awhile now :( -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05
Please try Tabby's Place located on Route 202 in Hunterdon Co. They take in FIV positive cats, especially ones from shelters that are about to be put to sleep. They might have a waiting list, but please try them. Also The Best Little Cathouse in PA takes FIV positive cats also. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro To: FeLV Talk List [New] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: OT: Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05 Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05, she will be euthanized thursday if no home or foster home is found for her. Please post to all your resources!! Located in NJ I believe, her full ad link is below:http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10866She has been waiting awhile now :(-- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
I have 8 week old w/leukemia, now I found the litter it came from.
Hi, 5 days ago I found a kitten, took it to the vet and had it tested and it's positive w/leukemia and I'm starting treatment right away and am going to keep it. Now I found the litter, two others, very friendly grey kittens and I don't know what to do with them. Any advice as to what my next move is with the other two? If I could keep them I would but I don't know where to take them since they are getting a lot smaller in the heat. If anyone could tell me where to take them in Las Vegas, Nevada. Much appreciated, Gina J -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05
Please call them, you will get a better response. Where in NJ are you? Maybe we can help. I can see if we can trade cats and maybe give this cat a little longer time. I can talk to the shelter staff, see what they say. You can also try The Best Little Cathouse in PA. They take FIV cats also. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Ashley FIV + fem TIME IS UP! 08/04/05 Thanks Miriam, I did write them too. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: I have 8 week old w/leukemia, now I found the litter it came from.
Gina, what do you mean you don't know where to take them? If you are going to keep them, I would get them tested as well, although it may be a false positive because they might have the mother's antibodies in their system. What kind of test? Was it the snap test or the IFA test. The quick tests sometimes come back false positive or negative depending on the age of the kitten and last exposure. I would first get a definitive diagnosis with the kitten you kept, then take it step by step with the others depending on the results of the first. What do you mean they are getting a lot smaller in the heat? - Original Message - From: Gina Jesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: I have 8 week old w/leukemia, now I found the litter it came from. Hi, 5 days ago I found a kitten, took it to the vet and had it tested and it's positive w/leukemia and I'm starting treatment right away and am going to keep it. Now I found the litter, two others, very friendly grey kittens and I don't know what to do with them. Any advice as to what my next move is with the other two? If I could keep them I would but I don't know where to take them since they are getting a lot smaller in the heat. If anyone could tell me where to take them in Las Vegas, Nevada. Much appreciated, Gina J -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: I have 8 week old w/leukemia, now I found the litter it came from.
You mean they are suffering from dehydration? Do they have access to water, and are they eatingon their own? Where is their mother? If they are looking thinner and thinner it's most likely from dehydration... they need to have constant access to fresh water and shade. JennAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/ ~~~What do you mean they are getting a lot smaller in the heat? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Found kitten then found two more.
Hi again, I'm keeping the first kitten I found that turned up positive for leukemia. The other two are now eating and drinking because I put supplies out for them. They are abandoned and I can't take anymore. Don't want them to suffer, and I don't know if they have leukemia either. Don't know what to do with them. I don't want them out in the heat too much longer. Where do I take kittens like these? Thanks again, Gina J -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
(Fwd) Leukemia Positive Kittens
This person is not on our list, so please respond to Diana privately at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded message follows --- Send reply to: Homeless Animal Rescue Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Homeless Animal Rescue Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject:Leukemia Positive Kittens Date sent: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:40:57 -0700 We are looking for a home for 2 kittens, brother and sister who don't have to go together. She is a gorgeous ragdoll blue eyed babydoll and he is a med hair gray and white tuxedo, both born on Easter Sunday. Both are healthy now and are extremely sweet and well-mannered. I am a foster home and cannot do any more rescues until they are gone. Thanks, Diana HART Homeless Animal Rescue Team Cambria, CA --- End of forwarded message --- James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org
Wild Cat Ranch, Texas, closed due to neglect.
Just the messenger, sorry if it's already been posted. They took in animals after owner's deaths, plus FELV+ and FIV+ cats for a donation. if you have ever sent an animal there, you may want to look into reclaiming him/her. I will try to locate contact info. Okay, now that the warrant's been served and the cats seized, I'mallowed to release information on this situation! The facility thatwas seizedupon was Wild Cat Ranch (www.wildcatranch.net) - it wasbasically a "retirement" facility. When people can't continue tocare for their cats, they send them to this place and pay a stipendfor the cat's care. They also take in FeLV and FIV kitties and havea feralcolony. From what I was told, there have been allegationsof abuse/neglect for years - the SPCA of Texas would go down,investigate, give warnings, the facility would clean up it's act fora while.Apparently there's one "model" cat building that peopleare shown - but that's not where most of the cats reside. Most ofthe cats are living in corrugated metal sheds with dirt floors.From what I was told, terrible living conditions. What finallysparked the seizure - the IRS was investigating the money aspect ofthe operation for fraud. People's cats would die, they would not beinformed ofthe death, and the facility would continue to takepayments from the owners. All of the cats have been moved to theWild Animal Orphanage temporarily - until placement can be found. Ihave noidea what they are going to do with the feral and thepositives. Very sad. More details will be following about what kindofhomes/rescue will be needed for the cats! Feel free tocrosspost! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Contact info for the cats from Wild Cat Ranch, in Texas
Here is the news story about this case, from the SPCA of Texas website (with links to photos): http://www.spca.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticleid=7923 Their contact info: Dallas SPCA Headquarters362 S. Industrial Blvd.Dallas, TX 75207 214-651-9611[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the location of the Wild Animal Orphanage (they also run Cat Haven http://www.catsanctuary.org/, which is most likely the facility the cats were actually taken to, not the wild animal sanctuary). I am familiar with them because my SECOND cause is wild cat conservation, they are a GREAT organization. Wild Animal Orphanage 9626 Leslie Road San Antonio, Texas 78254 or mailing address: P.O. Box 690422San Antonio, Texas 78269 210-688-9038 [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have taken a cat to the Wild Cat Ranch, and wish to reclaim him/her, please contact the SPCA as soon as possible, especially if your cat is positive for FIV or FELV, as the SPCAmost likely does not have the facilities to adopt out these cats, and most likely they will be euthanised once the court date passes. ~~~Okay, now that the warrant's been served and the cats seized, I'mallowed to release information on this situation! The facility thatwas seizedupon was Wild Cat Ranch (www.wildcatranch.net) - it wasbasically a "retirement" facility. When people can't continue tocare for their cats, they send them to this place and pay a stipendfor the cat's care. They also take in FeLV and FIV kitties and havea feral colony. From what I was told, there have been allegationsof abuse/neglect for years - the SPCA of Texas would go down,investigate, give warnings, the facility would clean up it's act fora while.Apparently there's one "model" cat building that peopleare shown - but that's not where most of the cats reside. Most ofthe cats are living in corrugated metal sheds with dirt floors.From what I was told, terrible living conditions. What finallysparked the seizure - the IRS was investigating the money aspect ofthe operation for fraud. People's cats would die, they would not beinformed of the death, and the facility would continue to takepayments from the owners. All of the cats have been moved to theWild Animal Orphanage temporarily - until placement can be found. Ihave no idea what they are going to do with the feral and thepositives. Very sad. More details will be following about what kindof homes/rescue will be needed for the cats! Feel free to crosspost! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005
Re: Found kitten then found two more.
Hi Gina, What kind of treatment are you starting? Do they actually have leukemia, or do they just carry the FELV virus? Bless you for keeping one - Gloria At 10:37 PM 8/2/2005, you wrote: Hi again, I'm keeping the first kitten I found that turned up positive for leukemia. The other two are now eating and drinking because I put supplies out for them. They are abandoned and I can't take anymore. Don't want them to suffer, and I don't know if they have leukemia either. Don't know what to do with them. I don't want them out in the heat too much longer. Where do I take kittens like these? Thanks again, Gina J -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
