Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-28 Thread Kelley Saveika

Yes, Susan, that would be my preference.  It stresses him out to pill him,
and that's not the effect I want to get.

I haven't been quoted a price yet.  I don't even know which sites to go to
to get a price quoted:).

I am in Texas.

Thanks,

Kelley


On 1/27/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Compounded into a salve to rub inside the ear?  What sort of price have
you been quoted?  I know people in California, Florida and North Carolina
who have used Elavil compounded as a salve, with great results.  Where are
you located?

*Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote:

I do as much on line as possible,,
Kelly

Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any urls, or experience with
it?  Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and
I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded.

Thanks,

Kelley

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Re: To Jennifer re new kitty with FeLV

2007-01-28 Thread Jennifer Madon
Midnight is about 8 mo.  He was a stray so I am unsure of his exact 
age.  He peed on my kids in bed last night.  I am going to take him to 
the vet Monday.  I have got to get him to stop doing this.


wendy wrote:

Hi Jennifer,

I have been reading about your new Kitty, and a few of
the symptoms you wrote about sound like
hyperthyroidism.  Drinking water all the time and
going around the house meowing, especially at night,
are both symptoms.  We have a cat with hyper T.  To
check for it, you have to get a T4 test at the vets. 
If it's expensive, you might as well get a whole blood

panel done.  HyperT is more common in older cats.  How
old is your new kitty?  


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Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-28 Thread Susan Hoffman
I think your vet has to prescribe this one.  You can buy elavil in tablet form 
from http://www.1drugstore-online.com/  without a prescription.  Try emailing 
them and ask if they can compound it as a salve for transdermal application.

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes, Susan, that would be my 
preference.  It stresses him out to pill him, and that's not the effect I want 
to get.  
   
  I haven't been quoted a price yet.  I don't even know which sites to go to to 
get a price quoted:).
   
  I am in Texas.
   
  Thanks,
   
  Kelley

 
  On 1/27/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Compounded into a 
salve to rub inside the ear?  What sort of price have you been quoted?  I know 
people in California, Florida and North Carolina who have used Elavil 
compounded as a salve, with great results.  Where are you located?

Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote:

I do as much on line as possible,,
Kelly

  Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any urls, or experience with it? 
 Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and I 
think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded. 
 
Thanks,
 
Kelley

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Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
 
The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I  have 
been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but  
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve  emailed me 
about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones  who was not 
given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man  got all his 
friends 
to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not  religious, and his cat 
inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not  explain it, but it is 5 
months later and he is fine. I have read medical studies  saying that people 
who 
are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and  faster, for whatever 
reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical,  not religious, 
perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am  asking all of you 
to 
pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing red  blood cells again 
and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her  symptoms to all get 
better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I  would appreciate it. I have 
tried everything else.
 
 
thanks as always,
Michelle



Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread elizabeth trent

I, for one, believe in the power of prayer -- prayers going up for you and
Lucy.  Hugs for you both as well.

elizabeth


On 1/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I
have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating,
but otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve
emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones
who was not given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man got
all his friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not
religious, and his cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not
explain it, but it is 5 months later and he is fine. I have read medical
studies saying that people who are prayed for tend to get better more
frequently and faster, for whatever reason (the study was written by doctors
from a medical, not religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of
why). So I am asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to
start producing red blood cells again and for the fluid to go away from her
belly and for her symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for her
even once,  I would appreciate it. I have tried everything else.


thanks as always,
Michelle



Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Paolo
Michelle,

please do remember, *always*, that a 100% reliable assessment of FIP
(dry or wet) CANNOT be made until the cat is alive: only necroscopic
exams could tell the final word. There is plenty of cases of cats
definitely diagnosed with FIP, that did not have it, just a panel
of symptoms that resembled (but actually were not) FIP... ;)

Paolo



Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Nina

I just sent you a link to The Secret video off list.
http://www.universeofpower.com/resources/free_videos/the_secret_movie.html

It's all about the power of intention, which I think is a big reason why 
prayer works.  I find it quite affirming that you should post the 
request for prayer at the same time.

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I 
have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is 
eating, but otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an 
fip list serve emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms 
plus additional ones who was not given any hope and was hospitalized 
and not eating.  The man got all his friends to pray for his cat, even 
though he himself was not religious, and his cat inexplicably 
completely recovered. The vets can not explain it, but it is 5 months 
later and he is fine. I have read medical studies saying that people 
who are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and faster, for 
whatever reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical, not 
religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am 
asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start 
producing red blood cells again and for the fluid to go away from her 
belly and for her symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for 
her even once,  I would appreciate it. I have tried everything else.
 
 
thanks as always,

Michelle


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Of course we'll add our prayers to yours.  GLOW to you both for strength 
healing endurance and peace.
 
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My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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- Original Message 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:52:47 AM
Subject: Please pray for Lucy



 


The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I 
have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but 
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve 
emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones 
who was not given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man 
got all his friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not 
religious, and his cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not 
explain it, but it is 5 months later and he is fine. I have read medical 
studies 
saying that people who are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and 
faster, for whatever reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical, 
not religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am 
asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing 
red 
blood cells again and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her 
symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I 
would appreciate it. I have tried everything else.

 

 

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Nina
A couple of the segments provided are not running for me, (the movie is 
divided into 20 minute or so segments to make viewing on line easier), 
but what I have seen so far makes so much sense to me.  One of the 
premises is that we attract what we think about, what we feel about, 
into our lives and that those thoughts don't differentiate between the 
negative and the positive.  When you concentrate on not wanting 
something, you are still giving it power.  Instead of focusing on what 
you don't want, (which amplifies it and brings it into your life), 
concentrate on the opposite, what you do want.  So instead of 
concentrating your fears on fip, concentrate on good health instead.  We 
touched on this a little last night, (another coincidence?).


I have always been told by animal communicators that animals don't 
recognize negative word structure.  Being a dog trainer, I have long 
been aware that it is easier to educate using affirmatives.  Instead of 
No barking, use quiet, instead of No jumping, praise four on the 
floor and say off.  Animals relate to what you are thinking, not what 
you are necessarily intending.  Just maybe, the universe works in the 
same way.


Nina

Nina wrote:

I just sent you a link to The Secret video off list.
http://www.universeofpower.com/resources/free_videos/the_secret_movie.html

It's all about the power of intention, which I think is a big reason 
why prayer works.  I find it quite affirming that you should post the 
request for prayer at the same time.

Nina


Re: Denosyl

2007-01-28 Thread Bpinesbksa
 
In a message dated 1/28/2007 10:01:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Did your  vet suggest denosyl for red blood cell production? I read the info  
 
at the link you sent, and it does not mention using it for this. 


Yes she did, and either it's pure coincidence, or it's done at least some  
good- although my cat never was lethargic but for the first time he was  
acutely 
anemic (prior to his FELV diagnosis), he has much more energy, and it  
appears at least from his gums that he's doing well in the red cell department  
now.


Re: Denosyl

2007-01-28 Thread Bpinesbksa
By the way, if I can help anybody with anything (even though many of the  
people here have a lot more knowledge of and experience with this  dreadful 
disease than I do, unfortunately), feel free to email me directly  for quicker 
answers.


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I know. And we are treating for toxo, which does not really seem to be  
working so far. Next step is probably to treat for small cell lymphoma and fip  
inflammation at the same time with leukeran. But that suppresses the bone 
marrow  
and wbc, so my vets do not want to put her on it until we have completely 
given  up on the abx working.  The only way to really diagnose her would be  
exploratory surgery with multiple tissue biopsies (they can definitively  
diagnose 
fip if they find it in a tissue biopsy-- that is how they do it in  
necropsies as well), and I do not want to put Lucy through exploratory surgery  
because 
she is FeLV+, anemic, weak, and almost seemed like she would not recover  
from the ultrasound/biopsy-- just sat in sick cat position staring into space  
for half a day afterwards and would not look at me or eat until the evening. So 
 
I am afraid the surgery could kill her.  So I am trying to treat for the  
treatable things they might find in a biopsy, which I was told would only be a) 
 
infection, b) cancer, or c) fungal infection. We are treating for toxo, an  
infection, right now.  If it is cancer, the only really treatable kind is  
lymphoma, which the oncologist does not think she has because the enlarged 
lymph  
nodes in her abdomen did not have any lymphoma cells and neither did the fluid  
in her belly.  But I think if we give up on the abx, the next step is  
leukeran in case it is lymphoma, since it is also used to treat fip-related  
inflammation.  Fungal infection seems least likely and the medication  
apparently 
makes them feel sick, so that is probably last, unless the internist  decides 
otherwise.
 
So I have not given up hope. But when she is so tired, and her pcv is still  
going down, and her belly keeps getting bigger, it is frightening.  That is  
why I ask for prayer.
 
That said, I put her collar on her, with the bells, and asked her if she  
wanted to go outside. She just sat there and looked at me, so I went into the  
kitchen. When I looked up she was walking through the kitchen to the back door. 
 
I let her out and she walked around a while, jumped up on a stone wall, 
walked  around some more. She meowed strangely a few times. When well, she is 
quite 
 talkative, but some of these meows sounded different and I got scared. But 
she  then climbed up on top of the picnic table in the sun. I plugged in her 
heating  pad out there and she got on it, and we spent about an hour outside in 
the  (cold) sun.  She purred when we pet her.  I eventually brought her in  
because the clouds covered the sun and her ears got ice cold, and she meowed at 
 
me the whole time I was taking her in because she did not want to go. Once 
in,  she ate some, and then curled up on her heating pad. She rolled on her 
back 
for  a while like she was really happy, now is fast asleep on her side. So 
better  afternoon than I was expecting! Perhaps because of the prayers! Or 
perhaps  because she heard a mouse this morning and that excited her. Or 
perhaps if 
I had  asked her any of these past days if she wanted to go out and put her 
collar on,  perhaps she would have responded the same way. I don't know. But I 
am glad and  grateful for it.  Please send prayers.
 
Thanks,
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/28/2007 1:05:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michelle,

please do remember, *always*, that a 100% reliable  assessment of FIP
(dry or wet) CANNOT be made until the cat is alive: only  necroscopic
exams could tell the final word. There is plenty of cases of  cats
definitely diagnosed with FIP, that did not have it, just a  panel
of symptoms that resembled (but actually were not) FIP...  ;)

Paolo


 


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Leslie

Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that I
can picture her?

Leslie


Subject: Please pray for Lucy


The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet
fip.  I  have
been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list
serve  emailed me
about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones  who was
not
given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man  got all his
friends
to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not  religious, and his
cat
inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not  explain it, but it is
5
months later and he is fine. I have read medical studies  saying that
people who
are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and  faster, for
whatever
reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical,  not religious,
perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am  asking all of
you to
pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing red  blood cells
again
and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her  symptoms to all
get
better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I  would appreciate it. I
have
tried everything else.


thanks as always,
Michelle



Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If  anyone 
else wants me to do that, please let me know.
Thanks,
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that  I 
can picture her?
 
Leslie



 


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread anne
Michelle,
   You have my prayers.  I agree, the power of prayer is a real force, I do 
believe!

Anne and Simms, Sophie and other furry friends in MI and Jimi Too Cool, always 
with me in spirit

Subject: Please pray for Lucy


 
The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I  have 
been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but  
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve  emailed me 
about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones  who was not 
given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man  got all his 
friends 
to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not  religious, and his cat 
inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not  explain it, but it is 5 
months later and he is fine. I have read medical studies  saying that people 
who 
are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and  faster, for whatever 
reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical,  not religious, 
perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am  asking all of you 
to 
pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing red  blood cells again 
and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her  symptoms to all get 
better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I  would appreciate it. I have 
tried everything else.
 
 
thanks as always,
Michelle



Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Kelly L


Please send me a picture. I saw your post on BF this morning,,good 
people there,I will put her picture on the refrigerater.

kelly

At 12:53 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote:
I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. 
If anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know.

Thanks,
Michelle

In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so 
that I can picture her?


Leslie


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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Barb Moermond
I would love to see a picture of your sweet Lucy.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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Subject: Re: Please pray for Lucy



 


I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If 
anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know.

Thanks,

Michelle

 

In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that 
  I can picture her?

   

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Sally Davis

I too am trying to envsion her. Please sent me a picture too and I will
continue to pary and send positive vibes your way.

Love

Sally, Junior, Daisy, Speedy Silver, Grey and White, Little Black, Lily, and
Spike

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 I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If
anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know.
Thanks,
Michelle

In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that
I can picture her?

Leslie







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Re: ot: transdermal benedryl gel for allergies

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I just saw this email. It was me. I give it to Patches, who chews in the  
same places otherwise. but we are pretty sure it is anxiety with her, not  
allergies. How is it working?
Michelle
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  searched all my email archives and I can't for the life of me find 
who  recommended going to a compounding pharmacy to get compounded transdermal  
benedryl gel for my Phelix's allergies (my brain is like a  sieve)...but 
Phelix and I just wanted to say thanks!  (and  please tell me who you are - !) 


 


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Michelle,
   I hope Lucy is eating and feeling better today..I am behind as usual..I was 
wondering if they sent the blood off to be checked for toxo...When Bandy first 
saw the eye spec., that was the first test he wanted to do and really only 
thing Bandy hadn't been checked for in the past..Here in TX they usually send 
everything to Texas A and M, but this time they sent it to Colorado..it took 
awhile to get the results, too..He was negative..If they haven't done the toxo 
blood test, they should...cause that would eliminate unnecessary meds that Lucy 
might not need right now...and I believe that was some of Bandy's problems near 
the end...too many meds...which I believe caused the liver failure..He couldn't 
process all the things he was getting..
  Also, my kitty that had lymphoma lived on 20mg of pred daily the rest of her 
life..along with her several months of chemo..They used adriamycin for 
her..with great results..She was in remission for almost 9 months..How much 
pred is Lucy on now?
  I read some where that you were using the Merck vet book..I have a new one 
and use it all the time..Check it for FIP and toxo and anything else if you 
haven't already..The IBD section is really good as well..It has the protocol 
that we are using for Lucy and Inky.  Also it mentions using dex daily for 
IBD.. .22mg per kg.  I found that quite helpful..
  Bandy also had non-regenerative anemia...I put him on folic acid from the 
health food store..800mcg pills...I would sprinkle some on every meal he 
ate...I really believe along with the epogen and added supps it helped 
him..cause his internal med specialist said anemia would be his ultimate fate, 
and it wasn't..His PCV would drop at times to around 20, but then go right back 
up to 30+..He only received epogen for around 5 wks..and he had quick results 
which isn't usually the case..His PCV went up rather fast..
  He was also on Co Q 10 30mg daily along with 2 other supps that I got from 
onlynaturalpet.com.  feline immune system support and extra strength immune and 
antioxidant support...I would alternate those 2.  Vit E 400mg weekly.. 500mg 
L-lysine daily
  I am sorry to go on and on, but I am just trying to see if any of these 
things might be something that might help Lucy.. I guess you remember he was on 
interferon mixed with liqui-tinic (which is a good iron support) daily..I mixed 
1/2 cc of this with his interferon..
  Prayers are with you and Lucy,
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

 
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Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled online

2007-01-28 Thread Kerry Roach
I am also in Texas...I would really like to know where you can get them without 
a script, too..I do know a few places that will let you get a few things..but 
never what I actually need.
  We use Roadrunner Pharmacy in Phoenix for all compounding prescriptions...All 
the things that I got for Bandy and Inky are around $34.95 per month..I also 
have liquid baytril and pred.  If I have needed to use several meds at the same 
time, we get it all in one bottle..with what ever flavor they like..Shipping is 
included in this price and they ship 2nd day UPS..and sometimes, over night 
them..but you usually have to pay extra for that..I get all my transdermals 
from them as well...They have been really great for us..and I have been using 
them since summer of 2005..My vet calls in the script and they ship directly to 
me..they will call me for the payment info and shipping address..I highly 
recommend them..
  877-518-4589 or 623-434-1180
  I have been lucky that my vet will give several refills on them so all I do 
is call directly to re-order. (they are good for 1 yr)
  Hope this helps,
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

 
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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
 
Thanks, Kerry. I am already giving Lucy all that you mention other than the  
chemo and coq10, but maybe I will get some Until yesterday she was on 10 
mg/day  of pred but I upped her yesterday to 12.5. I am all for more steroids 
if 
this is  not something infectious. my local vet wants to wait on more steroids 
until we  see if the abx will kick in, though he does not think it is toxo at 
this point.  He did not want to take enough blood to send out a test, since 
clindamycin, the  abx to treat toxo, was recommended by the internist for Lucy 
as 
a broad-spectrum  abx to be on anyway in case she has some other kind of 
infection.   Apparently it has few side effects.  Do you think I should up her 
pred? I  am thinking of asking for a dex shot or dex pills on Tuesday when the 
vet opens  (closed tomorrow for a funeral). 
 
I have only been giving 100 mcg of folic acid. You really gave 800 mcg/day?  
That is twice the human dosage of what I have. If that is really what you 
gave,  I will up what I am giving her.
 
Thanks, Kelly.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/28/2007 6:47:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Michelle,
 I hope Lucy is eating and feeling better today..I am behind as  usual..I was 
wondering if they sent the blood off to be checked for  toxo...When Bandy 
first saw the eye spec., that was the first test he wanted  to do and really 
only 
thing Bandy hadn't been checked for in the past..Here in  TX they usually 
send everything to Texas A and M, but this time they sent it  to Colorado..it 
took awhile to get the results, too..He was negative..If they  haven't done the 
toxo blood test, they should...cause that would eliminate  unnecessary meds 
that Lucy might not need right now...and I believe that was  some of Bandy's 
problems near the end...too many meds...which I believe caused  the liver 
failure..He couldn't process all the things he was getting..
Also, my kitty that had lymphoma lived on 20mg of pred daily the rest of  her 
life..along with her several months of chemo..They used adriamycin for  
her..with great results..She was in remission for almost 9 months..How much  
pred 
is Lucy on now?
I read some where that you were using the Merck vet book..I have a new  one 
and use it all the time..Check it for FIP and toxo and anything else if  you 
haven't already..The IBD section is really good as well..It has the  protocol 
that we are using for Lucy and Inky.  Also it mentions using dex  daily for 
IBD.. .22mg per kg.  I found that quite helpful..
Bandy also had non-regenerative anemia...I put him on folic acid from the  
health food store..800mcg pills...I would sprinkle some on every meal he  
ate...I really believe along with the epogen and added supps it helped  
him..cause 
his internal med specialist said anemia would be his ultimate fate,  and it 
wasn't..His PCV would drop at times to around 20, but then go right  back up to 
30+..He only received epogen for around 5 wks..and he had quick  results which 
isn't usually the case..His PCV went up rather fast..
He was also on Co Q 10 30mg daily along with 2 other supps that I got  from 
onlynaturalpet.com.  feline immune system support and extra strength  immune 
and antioxidant support...I would alternate those 2.  Vit E 400mg  weekly.. 
500mg L-lysine daily
I am sorry to go on and on, but I am just trying to see if any of these  
things might be something that might help Lucy.. I guess you remember he was  
on 
interferon mixed with liqui-tinic (which is a good iron support) daily..I  
mixed 1/2 cc of this with his interferon..
Prayers are with you and Lucy,
Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky



 


Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Lernermichelle
one more question-- how long did it take the epogen to kick in for  Bandy?
 
thanks,
michelle


Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled online

2007-01-28 Thread Susan Hoffman
You can get elavil from www.1drugstore-online.com without a prescription but 
it's tablets for oral administration.Email them and see if they can 
compound it.  In the US though you will need a script for elavil regardless of 
how it is delivered.

Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am also in Texas...I would really 
like to know where you can get them without a script, too..I do know a few 
places that will let you get a few things..but never what I actually need.
  We use Roadrunner Pharmacy in Phoenix for all compounding prescriptions...All 
the things that I got for Bandy and Inky are around $34.95 per month..I also 
have liquid baytril and pred.  If I have needed to use several meds at the same 
time, we get it all in one bottle..with what ever flavor they like..Shipping is 
included in this price and they ship 2nd day UPS..and sometimes, over night 
them..but you usually have to pay extra for that..I get all my transdermals 
from them as well...They have been really great for us..and I have been using 
them since summer of 2005..My vet calls in the script and they ship directly to 
me..they will call me for the payment info and shipping address..I highly 
recommend them..
  877-518-4589 or 623-434-1180
  I have been lucky that my vet will give several refills on them so all I do 
is call directly to re-order. (they are good for 1 yr)
  Hope this helps,
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Michelle I will add you and Lucy to my prayers.I would like to see her too. :)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks and hugs to you
  Sherry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If 
anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know.
  Thanks,
  Michelle
   
  In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that I 
can picture her?
   
  Leslie

  
   


 
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Re:transfusion

2007-01-28 Thread Bpinesbksa
 
In a message dated 1/27/2007 9:26:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If  anyone has any ideas or information
about how cats normally look and act  when needing a transfusion (i.e.
just tired, or not eating and almost  nonresponsive?), I would appreciate
it.



Just saw this. Be very careful. From the 4 experiences I had with my cat,  
the first was when I had just gotten out of the hospital myself, and it was  
obvious he needed help. But the next 3 times, he was at 13, and once he had a  
minor respiratory infection to boot. At those times he wasn't obviously in any  
distress. The thing that alerted me was his faster heart rate after any real  
activity, and a bit of panting. He paradoxically has never stopped eating, his 
 appetite has been fairly constant all along. You want to deal with it before 
it  gets too bad, because most cats will hide sickness like that well (if 
it's only  gradual onset of pernicious anemia). I think it's more of a case of 
watching the  individual cat, and if he/she is acting out of the norm as far as 
energy and/or  breathing, be safe rather than sorry. It would be great to find 
a way to get a  quick PCV without committing to a transfusion if you suspect 
the anemia is  getting bad.


Re: Transfusions

2007-01-28 Thread Bpinesbksa
One more thing to consider when you are possibly looking at a transfusion.  
Depending on where you live and where you go, the cross-matching process might  
be a lengthy one. I don't have problems with that, because the employees at 
my  vet's are glad to have their own animals donate God thanks. But if there is 
a  delay in finding a proper donor, it lengthens the process, which is bad 
for the  animal in more than one way. So again, to be on the safe side, I would 
suggest  from my limited experience that anyone who thinks they're seeing very 
low PCVs  from their animal's activity level etc. gets their cat's PCV 
checked  ASAP.


Re: ot: transdermal benedryl gel for allergies

2007-01-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you so much for telling me about this, Michelle.  It makes a world of
difference for Phelix.  He doesn't mind when I rub it in his ear and he
seems a lot more comfortable.  I wouldn't be surprised if the fur grew back
on his tummy.  We really appreciate the tip.

elizabeth


On 1/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I just saw this email. It was me. I give it to Patches, who chews in the
same places otherwise. but we are pretty sure it is anxiety with her, not
allergies. How is it working?
Michelle

In a message dated 1/19/2007 12:43:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have searched all my email archives and I can't for the life of me find
who recommended going to a compounding pharmacy to get compounded
transdermal benedryl gel for my Phelix's allergies (my brain is like a
sieve)...but Phelix and I just wanted to say thanks!  (and please tell me
who you are - !)





Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Kerry Roach
I think the epogen worked in less than 2 wks...They all said that was very fast 
as it usually takes longer..He was at 20 and it went to over 32 in around 10 
days.  He was only on it for around 5 wks..as when he went to the specialist, 
the pcv had already dropped again to 23..so she stopped it due to he might have 
been going to develope antibodies to it..which usually happens if they are on 
it too long..We stopped and were going to use it again later if he needed it, 
but he never did...Then all I know is maybe the folic acid and other supps that 
I gave him helped...I would break open the cap and sprinkle some on every 
meal..It was hard to tell for sure how much he was getting, but the cap would 
be gone in 2 days or less..I just sprinkled a small amount on all meals...I 
would up Lucy's though..
  I would probably up the pred, too just in case you think you are dealing with 
some sort of cancer (lymphoma).
  I sure hope you get some dex pills...my vet just wrote a script for me and I 
had it filled.  I am going to ask for some more just in case I need it for 
Inky..
  Bandy's pcv was 32 just days before he passed away and for the most part had 
been in the 30's for the last yr except on a few occasions when we had it 
checked..
  I know we used 1 bottle and part of another at a different strength... He got 
.07 of the first bottle then the other was .14..so I am thinking now that he 
was on it maybe 6 wks..I would have to look back at his records..
  Hope I haven't totally confused you..Wish I could be of more help..
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

 
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RE: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-28 Thread Chris Ramzy
Mylo went to the specialist yesterday. The doctor was very nice and seemed 
very educated on FeLV. He said that Mylo's kidney's are very inflamed, and 
that he believe's that Mylo has lymphoma and possibly liver disease. This 
diagnosis didn't surprise me as I know lymphoma can accompany FeLV. Mylo is 
dehydrated even though I give him water throughout the day. He's just not 
drinking enough on his own. So the vet said Mylo would have to be 
hospitalized, have a blood transfusion, be put on meds and have 
chemotherapy. He said that even if I did all those things, Mylo would most 
likely only have 4 to 5 months to live. I am glad I went to the appointment 
because I wanted a specialist's opinion even though I know how bad off Mylo 
is. Mylo has hardly eaten the last couple of days. His energy is still very 
low, and the sick meow sound that he makes once and a while is very painful 
to hear. Mylo's quality of life has deteriorated within the last month and I 
don't want to put him through any more stress than he's already gone 
through. I tried my best to find a way to help him get better but I have to 
accept that there is nothing more I can do to help him become healthy again. 
That is a difficult thing.





From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Chris and Mylo
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800

Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys.  What happened at the Internist today?  
I hope no news is good news.  Please update us when you can.

Nina


Chris Ramzy wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on 
Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo.





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Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Oh Chris...this is so hard.  I am so sorry the prognosis was not better.
You can let him know that you love him and comfort him.  I know it is so
hard to talk about - but there comes a time when the kindest gift you can
give is freedom from pain and suffering.  You will know if that time comes.
Every day is so precious.  My heart is with you.

elizabeth


On 1/28/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mylo went to the specialist yesterday. The doctor was very nice and seemed
very educated on FeLV. He said that Mylo's kidney's are very inflamed, and
that he believe's that Mylo has lymphoma and possibly liver disease. This
diagnosis didn't surprise me as I know lymphoma can accompany FeLV. Mylo
is
dehydrated even though I give him water throughout the day. He's just not
drinking enough on his own. So the vet said Mylo would have to be
hospitalized, have a blood transfusion, be put on meds and have
chemotherapy. He said that even if I did all those things, Mylo would most
likely only have 4 to 5 months to live. I am glad I went to the
appointment
because I wanted a specialist's opinion even though I know how bad off
Mylo
is. Mylo has hardly eaten the last couple of days. His energy is still
very
low, and the sick meow sound that he makes once and a while is very
painful
to hear. Mylo's quality of life has deteriorated within the last month and
I
don't want to put him through any more stress than he's already gone
through. I tried my best to find a way to help him get better but I have
to
accept that there is nothing more I can do to help him become healthy
again.
That is a difficult thing.



From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Chris and Mylo
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800

Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys.  What happened at the Internist today?
I hope no news is good news.  Please update us when you can.
Nina


Chris Ramzy wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on
Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo.



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RE: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-28 Thread Kelly L

At 08:01 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote:


I am so very sorry it was not what you had hoped 
for. It is very hard. Do you give fluids at home. 
Even if so many things are not going well, those 
extra fluids just help them feel so very much 
better. It is not stressful for them to get them 
at home,,and really helps. I do not know if 
he is already on steroids, Those also are 
helpful, in addition to slowing the lymphoma, the 
improve the feeling of well being and increase the appetite ,

Please keep us posted,,,we are here with you ,
Kelly


Mylo went to the specialist yesterday. The 
doctor was very nice and seemed very educated on 
FeLV. He said that Mylo's kidney's are very 
inflamed, and that he believe's that Mylo has 
lymphoma and possibly liver disease. This 
diagnosis didn't surprise me as I know lymphoma 
can accompany FeLV. Mylo is dehydrated even 
though I give him water throughout the day. He's 
just not drinking enough on his own. So the vet 
said Mylo would have to be hospitalized, have a 
blood transfusion, be put on meds and have 
chemotherapy. He said that even if I did all 
those things, Mylo would most likely only have 4 
to 5 months to live. I am glad I went to the 
appointment because I wanted a specialist's 
opinion even though I know how bad off Mylo is. 
Mylo has hardly eaten the last couple of days. 
His energy is still very low, and the sick meow 
sound that he makes once and a while is very 
painful to hear. Mylo's quality of life has 
deteriorated within the last month and I don't 
want to put him through any more stress than 
he's already gone through. I tried my best to 
find a way to help him get better but I have to 
accept that there is nothing more I can do to 
help him become healthy again. That is a difficult thing.





From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Chris and Mylo
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800

Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys.  What happened at the Internist today?
I hope no news is good news.  Please update us when you can.
Nina


Chris Ramzy wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after 
the appointment on Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo.




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RE: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Michelle, please send me Lucy's picture as well, please.

Diane R.

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Gina WN
Lucy and you are both in my prayers.  I do believe in the healing power of 
prayer and meditation.
   
  Gina
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I 
have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but 
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve emailed me 
about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones who was not 
given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man got all his 
friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not religious, and his 
cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not explain it, but it is 5 
months later and he is fine. I have read medical studies saying that people who 
are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and faster, for whatever 
reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical, not religious, 
perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am asking all of you 
to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing red blood cells 
again and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her
 symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I would 
appreciate it. I have tried everything else.
   
   
  thanks as always,
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Re: Please pray for Lucy...photo of Lucy?

2007-01-28 Thread Gina WN
Michelle, would you send me a picture of Lucy off list so that I may visualize 
her in my prayers/healing meditations?
   
  Thank you,
  Gina
  

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just sent you a link to The Secret video off list.
http://www.universeofpower.com/resources/free_videos/the_secret_movie.html

It's all about the power of intention, which I think is a big reason why prayer 
works.  I find it quite affirming that you should post the request for prayer 
at the same time.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vets are still all stumped by her case but 
think it is wet fip.  I have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of 
meds and is eating, but otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip 
list serve emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional 
ones who was not given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man 
got all his friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not 
religious, and his cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not 
explain it, but it is 5 months later and he is fine. I have read medical 
studies saying that people who are prayed for tend to get better more 
frequently and faster, for whatever reason (the study was written by doctors 
from a medical, not religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of 
why). So I am asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to 
start producing red blood cells again and for the fluid to go away
 from her belly and for her symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for 
her even once,  I would appreciate it. I have tried everything else.
   
   
  thanks as always,
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