Yes, that's right.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/29/2007 10:13:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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They did aspirate fluid, though, right? And it was definitely in the abdomen
and NOT in the chest cavity, right? Didn't you say it was clear, and not
straw colored
It can -- as anything is possible with FIP -- but it can be suggestive
if all of other signs are present, and usually the corona virus titer is
greater than 1600 -- again,, my naomi's titer was only 1:400 and she
had FIP -- but if Lucy's titer is very small or none - the possibility
of her having
Since it would not be conclusive, and since I am sure she has been exposed
to corona virus since I adopted her from a shelter, I don't want to remove the
amount of blood necessary to test her, since she is so anemic.
In a message dated 1/30/2007 3:49:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL
Oh no.. I understand - -I wouldn't do it either if I were you.. I just
was making comments from diagnostic stand point -How is Lucy tonight?
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She just laid around all day, very lethargic. When I woke up at 2:30 she was
walking around the room looking at food bowls, so I fed her baby food and
she ate almost a jar. She then purred a lot when I pet and kissed her for a
while, and after I pilled her she washed herself. I just upped
I know it's scary to see it - but she must not be in pain, just
uncomfortable -
My first FIP boy, which was about 4 years ago, he actually developed FIP
right after I gave him baytrill for some reason.. he stopped eating
right after he got pills, and he accumulated fluid in his tummy, he
passed
You and Mylo know when the time is right. My thoughts are with you. It is a
decsion I never want to make but I am glad that I can make it when the time
is right.
Hugs,
Sally Junior Daisy Spike Speedy Ittle Bitty Silver Grey and white Little
Black Lily
On 1/29/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read a summary of the article, but if you have the article in full I would
love to read it. Thanks,
In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I know it’s scary to see it – but she must not be in pain, just
uncomfortable –
My first
Being dehydrated is like having a horrible hangover, of course your
going to look and feel crappy, not hydrating is only adding to his
discomfort. I can't believe the dr didn't insist on it. This little
inexpensive thing could really help him be more comfortable.
--
Belinda
happiness is
Hi Chris,
Last year I learned to do subQ fluids after my kitty
Julie was diagnosed hyperT, and I've done it on two
other of my kitties who got sick since then. It's
pretty easy, although I was scared at first to learn,
because I didn't want to hurt my furbaby. Julie gets
200cc a week because of
Hi Michelle,
Just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you and
Lucy right now. Praying for her improved health, and
for your strength.
:)
Wendy
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Good morning, how's is everything going for you and Mylo today.
They put Toby in the hospital yesterday for blood work,iv fluids and pain meds.
Blood work came out fine. They are going to an ultra sound today.
Toby was originally being treated for a bladder infection and then he got
blocked up
GLOW for you and mylo.
sometimes doing all that is medically possible is NOT the correct
choice for the cat, tho it may be what seems right for us. i always
ask the critter--and when they make it clear that they no longer want
to be treated, and fight assisted feeding and fluids, i have to
8 mo's is probably too young to have hyperT; possible
but highly improbable. When mine started peeing on
things, when I brought a new kitty home, I had to
retrain them to use the box. I put them in the
bathroom, and that's where they stayed for two weeks
with their litter box and food. It
Hi Kelley,
I use Pet Health Pharmacy in Arizona.
https://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/index.html
They are great. And it's VERY easy to do refills with
them. I order a month's worth of transdermal
methimazole for my hyperT kitty, and it's 12.90, plus
a flat $4.50 sh. So $17.40 for the month.
Paolo,
How is Rompi doing today? Have you found any further
info. on how you will be treating Rompi?
:)
Wendy
Have a burning question?
Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who
that's kind of what i meant--yes, FIP means there's been a corona
virus exposure/infection, but it is still possible for an FIP-positive
cat to not show a high titre. might not be COMMON, but just as a high
titre doesn't prove FIP, a low one doesn't exclude it either. kind of
like a negative FeLV
I will email it to you.. as it's interesting to read the whole thing..
I am going to receive acemmanan tomorrow - my back orders is coming in -
you might want to order for Lucy ...
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I agree sometimes you come to a point where you have to consider
letting them go but in my opinion and *my opinion only* assist feeding
and fluids are in NO way going too far. ANY cat that doesn't feel well
for whatever reason can and most likely will stop eating, and
dehydration makes a
i will do fluids in a heartbeat for a cat--until they make it clear
that they no longer want it. i remember being really upset with a
kitty who just would not let me administer fluids, because i KNEW it
would make her feel better--she was clearly terminal (at 22!), and it
was the holistic vet who
I just called to check on Midnight and they said he is waking up right
now from the neuter. He did great. They checked his urine and the
receptionist said she thought there were white blood cells in the
urine. I gave the vet permission to do a blood test to check is liver.
Any thoughts on
PS. Fred told an AC he wasn't thrilled with the fluids, he didn't
understand the reason for it. He said he'd rather not get them but I
asked her to explain to him that they would help his kidney's function
better and keep him feeling good for some time. His values have
improved quite a bit
I used to think this too but since I've heard from many AC's that
animals don't fear the pain sometimes associated with dying in some
instances and many actually prefer to go through the whole cycle I am
really more of the thinking of letting them complete the cycle without
my intervention.
i think, too, that i'm talking more about cats who accept treatment
quite well for a long time, and then suddenly say, enough. i am a
huge believer in giving fluids, and will do so often at the first sign
of punkiness in a cat, and have seen them work wonders--often one
application of subq fluids
this is a hard one, because actually, i haven't used veterinary
intervention with any of my kids in many years. i HAVE with sanctuary
animals who were seizing, or clearly in great pain, and i wouldn't
hesitate to do so if one of mine were in that situation. but i agree
that letting them go
: looking at the persians and thinking, yeah, no hair, right
On 1/29/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes...like Michelle said - it is compounded to be absorbed through the
skin...the ear is rich in blood vessels and doesn't have the hair so it's
the perfect place to
now that would be a problem!
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: looking at the persians and thinking, yeah, no hair, right
On 1/29/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes...like Michelle said - it is compounded to be absorbed through the
skin...the
Agree with this, I talked with Buddie the day before her surgery and
told her if she was ready to go I would be OK, I would miss her physical
self but if shwas ready to go home then she should. She survived the
surgery but went into cardiac arrest after in recovery. It was her
choice ad she
White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI. Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere. Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.
:)
Wendy
--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just
I am taking her in half an hour. I am really nervous about it. The vet
agreed to do the shot of 1/2 cc dexamethasone into the abdominal cavity after
draining, which apparently sometimes helps slow the refill time. I think she
is
even more anemic than on sat when her pcv was 15-- the parts
WOO HOO because he peed on my husband in bed this morning. I thought
he was going to kick me and Midnight out of the house! Instead he said,
take your cat and get out of bed! He is a grump in the middle of the
night. Then again, cat pee isn't pleasant to wake up to!
wendy wrote:
White
LOL!! Oh honey, GANDHI would have tossed the two of you out of bed under
the same circumstances...not that Gandhi would have found himself in the
same circumstances...
Here's hoping that the UTI clears up before your domestic bliss is
totally shattered!
Diane R.
Here are vibes that the draining does her some good, and that you can
still find a way to save her. My heart goes out to you.
Diane R.
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Michelle - are you going to order acemmanan?
I am sorry that Lucy's getting more pale - I know exactly what you are
going through as it has been my daily routine to check the color of gums
of my babies for a while now.
Michelle - please don't be fearful - I know it's hard, but try not -
You and Lucy are both in my prayers, Michelle. As with all of us on the
list, breaks my heart to see you go through this. Please don't give up
hope--I know it's hard, but while your little trooper Lucy still fights
this illness, I would think she needs to know you're right there
fighting with her
Thanks...yes, People's here in Austin was like $50 for flagyl compounded
into liquid..and they close at 6 pm too!
Ciara says It still tasted nasty, even with triple fish flavor. Ew!
On 1/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. For the same meds here in Dallas, where I live,
it costs
Why don't you just get a NEW yahoogroups account? It sure would be a LOT easier!
Phaewryn
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Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't
I agree with Belinda... I REGRET not trying all of that for Moogie (I wasn't
here on the list long enough to learn enough before I opted to have Moogie
euthanised). I don't want anyone else to have second guesses years down the
road. I'm just thankful that I've stuck around here and learned about
Probably a mind urinary tract infection... but they should probably send him
home
with antibiotics from his neuter anyways, so that will take care of both
things! Do
insist on the antibiotics... for a FELV+ cat, you really can't be too safe.
Phaewryn
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Adopt a New England FIV+
Wendy,
thank you for asking. Rompi's surgery has been scheduled for thursday
morning. Today's RX showed nothing abnormal, apart that evil thing with
the diameter of a golf ball. Rompi has no symptoms, eats like a lion,
evacuates like a lion, is FIV-/FeLV- and the vet says that his blood test
No, animals don't FEAR the pain of dying (and don't fear dying, for that
matter),
because they live in the moment, so they are only fearful when actually in the
process of being scared (and they don't have a belief system that registers the
end
of life or moving to another cycle like we do, so
I hope Lucy feels better after the fluid is drained, and improves! Keeping
fingers crossed for her!
Phaewryn
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Declawing Creates
Well, Lucy screamed while they were feeling around her belly trying to find
the place to put the needle in, but while they drained she just laid in my
arms and purred. The fluid, which I was told was clear and thin on January 16
and 17 when samples were taken, looked pale yellow to me and
You can subscribe to yahoogroups if you want to, you just refuse to do it. GET
A NEW
ACCOUNT SET UP.
https://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=usnew=1.src=ygrp.v=0.done=http%3a//groups.yahoo.com
Phaewryn
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Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
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Special
I was thinking the same thing
Sally Davis
On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't you just get a NEW yahoogroups account? It sure would be a LOT
easier!
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and
Paolo,
On your email provider, can you select a second screen name? I can, on
aol, if I want. If you can, you could basically create a different email
address (different screen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
provider). and then you
should not have trouble setting up a
None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are
euthanized. I suppose it will get to a point where she will be suffering so
bad you'll have to euthanise her? It appears that is the case with every
other FIP+ cat in existence. Surely there have been research cats that they
have
i know a lot of FIP cats, with the wet form, that have been allowed to
die naturally at home, so i guess i'm missing the point here
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None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are
euthanized. I suppose it will get
As I understand it, with wet FIP unless fluid is continually drained it will
begin to accumulate in the abdominal cavity and begin to squeeze out the lungs
so that breathing becomes harder and harder -- and the cat essentially
suffocates. I think that is why all wet FIP kitties are
He doesn't NEED to do that! I don't understand WHY it has to be so
complicated! Click here:
http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?logout=1.partner=.intl=us.done=http%3a%2f%2fmy.yahoo.com%2findex.html.src=my
Ok, that will log you out if you are logged into yahoo.com
Then, click here:
Hello Michelle,
So I just checked out some of The Secret movie. I have to say that I am
not very New Age. I like dirt and rocks and things that my hands can touch
and pick up. I am going to school again getting my science classes -
chemistry, biology, physics, etc. - dirt and rocks stuff, and
we can't forget that when they're showing symptoms of a UTI and they pull urine
for analysis, that a gram ID and sensitivity test has to be done in order to
identify the buggy that is the culprit so they can give the correct abx.
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
My cat the clown:
With dry fip, it is organ failure and/or anemia. My Buddy died naturally
from what probably was dry fip. His pcv was 6 the last time it was measured, a
couple of days before. The vet said he should not have been able to stand.
But he was on the dex/depo combo shots, and he was literally
yes, you are probably right. It is possible to keep draining it, but how
many times do you do that? as long as they are still eating? I don't know. But
you probably are right.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:27:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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As I
Do you know what actually killed them in the end? was it not eating, or
breathing difficulty, or anemia, or something else?
I am just trying to prepare myself.
thanks,
Michelle
In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:16:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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i know a lot of
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short
sides. The ones I have have 11 sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Bandit
actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely high
enough - and he can be a vigorous digger too. I got them at
Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died of FIP, they all passed away
naturally except one, Olive who developed severe neurological symptoms
and had seizures every 15 mins.. Peter died from the liver problem and
died very quickly... Naomi died very peacefully.. Rikki died from ARF,
Dharma died
Hideyo, all of yours had dry fip, though, right? Or did one have wet fip?
In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:51:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died of FIP, they all passed away
naturally except one, Olive who developed severe
Michelle - I am crying as I read this email as I know how much you want
Lucy to get better and so do I ---I wish I had this power to cure all
the sick babies in the world to make a miracle happen.. Michelle - don't
think about euthanizing her right now.. she is eating.. and she does not
seem to be
One FIP I had was Henry - -about 4 years ago and he was only 6 months
old.. he died very peacefully, he stopped breathing in his sleep
almost... I think that the cause was liver..
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Sally Forrester who used to be on this list lost many kitties to wet FIP
- do you want to contact her?
I also have another friend, karen whom I met on FIP list lost many cats
to wet and dry - let me know if you want to contact her..
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Hideyo, I am not going to do anything to her right now. I hardly ever
euthanize at all, much less while someone is eating. Most of my animals have
died
at home on their own. I just do not want her to suffer too much in the end,
which is why I asked the vet. I think my cat Buddy went
Yes, I will send you another vial if you need me to, you just let me
know, Michelle -
In addition to Mr. Ishida's studies, I also read about one case study of
Pancho (?) who had FIP and FIV - and he was in a very bad shape, and he
recovered completely for about 1.5 year with interferon and due to
Oh Leslie thank you! (I gotta tell you lady, I'm crazy about you).
Your post encouraging Michelle to visualize Lucy happy and healthy was
just perfect.
Michelle, you haven't responded to any of this, I don't know if you're
too wrapped up in the fear, the research, (the dirt and rock
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short=
sides. The ones I have have 11 sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Band=
it actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely h=
Yeah, we actually use file storage bins purchased at an office
If you guys remember, when Belinda on the list lost Bailey-she sent us a
photo of the sky with the cloud, just mimicking Bailey's face - now
that's a connection that goes beyond what we can explain..
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There was not a single cat whom I lost to FIP that I did not have to
syringe feed them towards the end as anorexia is a common symptoms of
FIP - most of my cats stopped eating though they may not act that ill..
they don't feel well due to the liver damage and feel nauseated so they
don't want to
Lucy has mostly, I think, not had bad fevers since starting on 10 mg/day of
pred plus clindamycin Saturday before last. Occasionally she has felt warm,
though, like she does now, and I think has a low grade fever. When at the
vet on Sat she felt warm like this and her temp was 104.1. She
Actually, she now feels hot, not warm. I have two ice packs against her and
she actually climbed on top of a third on her own. If it is not down in 15
minutes I will give her fluids.
What I don't understand is why she got another high fever all of a sudden,
after so long. She got more
I just had Inky's metronidazole (flagyl) refilled at Road Runner Pharmacy in
Phoenix. It was $34.95 which included 2nd day air shipping.UPS.. I got 60cc
chicken flavor..dosage is 100mg/ml. He gets .3cc daily.. Thought you guys might
want to check this out..
Also, I am 90 miles from Dallas
the subject line of this thread just hit me.
my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning.
can you fill that scrip?
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
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too funnywe need some laughter here.
the subject line of this thread just hit me.
my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning.
can you fill that scrip?
purebred, or will generic do?
On 1/30/07, Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
too funnywe need some laughter here.
the subject line of this thread just hit me.
my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning.
can you fill that scrip?
--
Spay Neuter
generic is fine.thank you Junior.
(that is my pharmacist)
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line
purebred, or will generic
Michelle,
I am so sorry for all you and Lucy are going through. I've been keeping up
with the discussion but haven't responded since I don't feel I have anything
to add.
What I don't understand is how steroids would make her less likely to have
fever. Corticosteroids make the body *less* able
At 07:11 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:
Steroids are anti inflammatories, the fever is called by inflammation
,,hence the steroids reduce fevers, swelling and inflammation.
Kelly
Michelle,
I am so sorry for all you and Lucy are going through. I've been
keeping up with the discussion but
Respectfully, I am not convinced that all fever is caused by inflammation.
Some of the worst fevers I've had were while on major doses of
corticosteroids.
elizabeth
On 1/30/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:11 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:
Steroids are anti inflammatories, the fever is
Yes and whenever I would show that photo to anyone while Bailey
was still here, I would tell them thats the face of an angel! I know
he picked that way and that photo to let me know he was OK because it is
one of my favorites and I couldn't miss it as a sign.
I have severe asthma so I feel like I know a little bit about steroids.
Steroids can reduce inflammation while not fighting fever- and at the same
time leaving the body unable to properly fight off infection -- that was
really my point in this.
Long term steroid use can have devastating effects
let me clarify also -- i'm not saying that steroids are not important...just
that they don't reduce fever. i think what prompted me to say that was
Michelle saying that Lucy's fever was up and that she didn't think it should
be in light of the steroids...i was just questioning that because i
Just wanted to give you some kudos!
Phaewryn
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High Five!
That encouragement goes a long way, Phaewryn...I really appreciate it. I
know you know first hand it's not for wimps ;-) Thanks!
The kids are very glad to be smoke-free. They absolutely loved stealing my
cigs and batting them under the frige. Phelix refused to have
Love and peace to you and Mylo.
When my Buddy was terminal from cancer, the vet recommended I learn how to do
sub-q fluids, so I could take him home and make him comfortable. He said that
I would know when it was time to let him go, or even possibly he would leave
me of his own accord
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