Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread Debbie
Isn't that the truth. We have cats that I can put tuna in front of and they won't touch it. Then we had the one who would only eat the Wal Mart brand Albacore tuna. When we were bottle feeding we had a horrible time with some of them - they would still be drinking ONLY KMR if allowed. I remember

Re: Hello Again - Slinky Sick

2007-03-16 Thread Marissa Johnson
How do I get home sub-q fluids? Vet or...? Are those fluids I have to inject or...? His fever seems to be going back up. :( Thanks for the positive energy! MJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be sending positive energy for Slinky. I don't have anything to

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread Susan Hoffman
Most of my brood eat primarily canned food (and people food), with dry food always available for snacking. The only cats I have ever seen devour the expensive high quality canned food were half-starved new arrivals. They had come from such awful circumstances that they would have eaten paint

Re: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Susan Hoffman
There's no such thing as placing an FeLV+ cat quicklyespecially an unneutered male who thus far does not get along with other cats. Getting him neutered will go a long ways towards helping him get along with other cats. And n ot having him neutered pretty much guarantees issues.

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
I think I am really lucky all mine eat the medium end dry food. Suzie does like to steal my chicken and cheese quesadillas right out of my hand, though:). I've never seen them refuse any sort of canned food - Felidae or the cheap stuff. I do save the cheap stuff (which I get donated a lot) for

RE: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
Susan, I never said I can't afford to neuter him. I said I WOULD neuter him if someone can take him. My other cat is very old and doesn't like him. He gets along fine. It's the FIV+ that's the problem. I'm in North Carolina and he has a vet appt that is paid for to be fixed. I can't afford

Re: BIG TEST QUESTION

2007-03-16 Thread Sally Davis
I must be a very unlucky person because I had 3 and probably 4 cats FeLV. Only two were related from litters a year apart. The other two cats were not related to my cats and had recently been adopted. What are the odds of adopting two cats one from a shelter one from an individual and my own two

Re: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
do you have a photo of him? that's the first thing second is to go to this page: http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html and post his info on all the places under places to post positive cats (or however it's phrased). please give us more information, also, so we can pass the word on: how old is he,

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
yep, as i've said before, sometimes when dealing with cats, the best food is whatever the heck they'll eat.. until THEY start reading the labels and the research--or better yet, DIRECTING the research, sometimes we just have to listen to them (my very-early-crf darling--psychotic,

Re: interesting info on the felidae website..

2007-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
Well, it makes sense to me. Like corn is the actual thing that you eat off the cob, or out of the can, and corn meal is the same thing dried and ground up. So it makes a lot of sense that corn would be heavier in water weight than corn meal. I have no idea if meat is the same way, and just

Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?

2007-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
There is an interesting webinar on this subject at https://petsmartcharities.webex.com/mw0304l/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=petsmartcharities On 3/15/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: distemper is a very nasty death, tho.. that's one i just won't mess with and while a lot of the

RE: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
I'll post him today. He's white with one blue and one yellow eye. He truly is a positive. He's safe with me, and I can take him back in November. If anyone wants the nitty gritty personal details email me privately. Suffice to say I'll be working 2 jobs to keep food on the table for me and

Re: Hello Again - Slinky Sick

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
the instructions for doing sub-q fluids was just posted on the list the other day--you should be able to search back for them, or someone can repost. most people i know have had their vet show them how to do it the first time, because it seems scary, tho in reality it's an incredibly simple

Re: RE: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Nina
Oh Stephanie, I'm so sorry about the rough spot you've hit. It sounds just heart wrenching. We've got to do what we've got to do, it doesn't sound like you've reached your conclusions lightly. Maybe you could post your felv pos as foster home needed. People might be quicker to help out

Re: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Jennifer Madon
We have a FeLV male and are not interested in providing a forever home to anymore FeLV cats at this time. But I may be interested if it is just a foster situation. Jennifer Nina wrote: Oh Stephanie, I'm so sorry about the rough spot you've hit. It sounds just heart wrenching. We've got to

For those of you who use compounded drugs, for humans or for pets: Safe Drug Compounding Act of 2007

2007-03-16 Thread wendy
Hey guys, This email was listed on the feline hyperT site. I know that many of you, like me, use compounded drugs, like Tapazole or Cyproheptadine, on our furbabies. Many people depend on compounded drugs for treatment of themselves or their pets. There is a new legislation in Congress

Re: For those of you who use compounded drugs, for humans or for pets: Safe Drug Compounding Act of 2007

2007-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
This would be really bad. Ack. On 3/16/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, This email was listed on the feline hyperT site. I know that many of you, like me, use compounded drugs, like Tapazole or Cyproheptadine, on our furbabies. Many people depend on compounded drugs for

RE: Need to place Chief ASAP/Foster

2007-03-16 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
Jennifer, I can take him back in November or December. Steph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Madon Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need to place Chief ASAP We have a FeLV

RE: RE: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
Thank you Nina. I'll try posting him as a foster. Part of the scary thing for me is money is so tight that I can't afford to treat a major illness. I can't get sick and my animals can't get sick or hurt. The horse won't be affordable for a few years, so sadly he's for sale. Thanks guys. I

Re: Need to place Chief ASAP/Foster

2007-03-16 Thread Jennifer Madon
I will check with my hubby tonight and let you know. Having him fixed would be great because I do have a male cat. I also have children. Is that a problem for Chief? Also, what part of NC? Jennifer Stephanie E Caldwell wrote: Jennifer, I can take him back in November or December.

RE: Need to place Chief ASAP/Foster

2007-03-16 Thread Susan Loesch
Stephanie - you aren't by any chance in or near Houston are you? I saw below about your horses. We (in Little Rock) adopted a cat to a girl outside of Houston who has a horse rescue group. Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui)

Cassie losing weight

2007-03-16 Thread Debbie
We have a cat called Cassie. She is nervous. She doesn't like other cats a whole lot, yet likes people and dogs. She bumps against the Labs on purpose and meows. She is a short haired gray tabby (always been kept inside). She is 4 years old. She has only ever weighed about 7.5 pounds but now she

Feline leukemia info from Best Friends

2007-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
I imagine most of you have seen this, but for those who haven't: http://www.bestfriends.org/archives/forums/041105fivfeleuk.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Re: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Nina
I don't know what your situation is specifically Steph, but don't convince yourself that things can't turn around quickly. Certainly, do what you have to do, but please stop telling yourself and others that it's going to take years to be financially stable. What harm can it cause to imagine

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 3/15/07 9:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (and there are quite a few people who are very poor and yet share a tremendous amount with their pets) That would definitely be me, especially since my MVA. ( I was on SSDI PRIOR to MVA, NO

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread Gussies mom
This is ridiculous. I come to this list because I have a sick baby that I love very much. A cat that is not even mine, though I wouldn't give him up for the world. I'm looking for help and support. Now I'm being told I feed my cats CRAP because I feed Science Diet because that is what the

RE: any other catfood suggestions--for Patti

2007-03-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I'll say it again, Pattiyou are such an inspiration to me! hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: any other catfood suggestions

RE: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Agreed. Would that it were so easy to find homes, and solve the problem of homeless cats. One day, hopefully, but that sure ain't the case now. Thanks for everything you do Beth. If there were more like you the world would be a better place. (And that goes for Phaewryn too.) Kerry -Original

speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17650075/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread elizabeth trent
I'm glad you said something - I was just about to post. This is just terrible. elizabeth On 3/16/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17650075/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats

Re: speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
someone on another list says that menu makes nutro On 3/16/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad you said something - I was just about to post. This is just terrible. elizabeth On 3/16/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17650075/

more on the pet-food recall... iams and eukanuba?

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/pg03_07.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread elizabeth trent
I heard about it on the radio on the way home from work -- they said that 'menu foods' should have their website updated with all the brands effected by tomorrow. This is really scary - my neighbor's baby passed away in her arms yesterday on the way to the vets -- plus, I think of all the UTI

Re: more on the pet-food recall... iams and eukanuba?

2007-03-16 Thread elizabeth trent
Holy cow! elizabeth On 3/16/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/pg03_07.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
i've been trying to get to their website since i first heard about it--too much traffic for it to come up! On 3/16/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard about it on the radio on the way home from work -- they said that 'menu foods' should have their website updated with all the

Re: speaking of pet food: major national recall announced today

2007-03-16 Thread elizabeth trent
What on earth could have happened? elizabeth On 3/16/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been trying to get to their website since i first heard about it--too much traffic for it to come up! On 3/16/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard about it on the

Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi. Does anyone have any experience with blood transfusions for sick kitties? Two vets now have basically told me that's about the only recourse I have left for trying to turn Slinky around. He seems to be doing a BIT better right now...I took him in and got some Sub-Q fluids (though I

Re: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread Gloria Lane
In my limited experience, blood transfusions really really can help, for a while. Not traumatic. I think there's a limit on the # of blood transfusions kitty can get, I don't know why. Gloria On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi. Does anyone have any experience with

Junior's tests

2007-03-16 Thread Sally Davis
For some reason I did not see an earlier post I made. Maybe it is just how gmail organizes. Sorry if this duplicates the prevoius post. Anyway, Junior had his needle aspiration of his lymph nodes. A quick look indicated inflammatory tissue and fatty tissue. Dr Staunton was going to look at it

RE: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Marissa, I'm so sorry to hear Slinky is sick though glad he seems to be doing a bit better when you wrote. Has the vet drawn blood to determine Slinky's red blood cell count---termed as PCV (packed cell volume) or HCT (hematocrit)? I know I would want to know that number before agreeing to

Re: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread C J
I just got a transfusion for my Tomi a week ago, he was very anaemic with his blood count being only 9 (anything below 12 is critical they said). It looks like they did it through his front leg, as he had a bandage on it after, but I don't know if they had to sedate him for that or not. They

Re: For those of you who use compounded drugs, for humans or for pets: Safe Drug Compounding Act of 2007

2007-03-16 Thread elizabeth trent
not to mention dumb... elizabeth p.s. link is this (too many spaces) - just takes you to the homepage not an article... http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/528006/ On 3/16/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be really bad. Ack. On 3/16/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
One more thing, Melissa--I live in Chicago, and the cost was $400 for the transfusion and $150 or more for drawing the blood donated by one of my cats, much more than I thought it wd be. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent:

Questions on Interferon

2007-03-16 Thread C J
The Vet had another look at Tomi today, a week after his transfusion, and gave me a 500ML bottle of Interferon Alfa-2B 30ui/ml, that they had just received. His blood count was 17, up from 16 on Monday, which isn't as much as the vet was hoping for, so Tomi's supposed to stay on Prednisone for

Website listing all foods in recall; lots of vendors

2007-03-16 Thread wendy
Here's the link: http://www.iamscruelty.com/menulist.asp I have not checked validity, so you might cross reference it before you freak out if you have one of the brands listed. I think this is for cats only, but don't quote me on that. :) Wendy

Re: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread Marissa Johnson
Would you recommend Epogen or Winstrol instead of a transfusion or in addition (like after the transfusion)? No one has mentioned either of them. I can't afford to keep paying for office visits in addition to the treatments. But I'll try calling my vet to see if they'd do either of them.

RE: Need to place Chief ASAP

2007-03-16 Thread Susan Hoffman
You can't afford to overpay on anything, including a neuter, and it's really hard to find a placement, permanent or foster, for an unaltered male cat. It takes time after the neuter to get the testosterone out of a cat's system and anyone considering taking him in will be concerned with

Re: any other catfood suggestions

2007-03-16 Thread Kelly L
At 02:28 PM 3/16/2007, you wrote: You are doing a wonderful thing for your cats. ignore the judgemental BS please,,,keep on keepin on Kelly This is ridiculous. I come to this list because I have a sick baby that I love very much. A cat that is not even mine, though I wouldn't give him up

Re: Transfusion?

2007-03-16 Thread wendy
Hey Marissa, Epogen is basically the same thing as Procrit for humans. You can probably do Epogen and/or Winstrol while also transfusing. I don't know about doing Epogen and Winstrol at the same time; I imagine it's probably ok. But I do believe you can do the transfusion with the other

Re: Website listing all foods in recall; lots of vendors

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
since this doesn't list the brands mentioned in the fda press release, i think i'll wait til tomorrow when the official list comes out. On 3/16/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the link: http://www.iamscruelty.com/menulist.asp I have not checked validity, so you might cross

Better links for the compounding legislation

2007-03-16 Thread wendy
Here's a better link for the compounding legislation: To send a letter to your legislators: https://secure2.convio.net/iacprx/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepagepage=UserActionid=149. To read about the legislation: http://www.iacprx.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Action_Alert_P2C2 Hopefully, these

60 Million Containers of Pet Food Recalled After Dog and Cat Deaths

2007-03-16 Thread Lora
Did anyone see/read this? The recalled pet food was sold by stores operated by the Kroger Company, Safeway Inc., Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) and PETSMART Inc., among others. I shop at Petsmart! Scary stuff! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259223,00.html www.menufoods.com/recall FYI:

Re: 60 Million Containers of Pet Food Recalled After Dog and Cat Deaths

2007-03-16 Thread TenHouseCats
the webpage isn't shut down, it's just getting too much traffic--a couple of us have been able, after long hours, to get to it--it just says they'll post product information at 6am today. i expect that the website will be as heavily trafficked then as it has been all day today. hopefully, the