Miles
Well, Miles came thru with flying colors. He indeed has a urinary tract infection. He's on meds, and we haven't seen a mess since! YAY Also, we turned on the air in one room for them last night. They were loving it. UNFORTUNATELY, we didn't turn the air on in our room, and it was MUGGY, so needless to say, we blew up out air mattress, and camped out in the kitty room. I don't think they knew what to do! Here's Mommy and Daddy laying on the floor in there room. But alas, after about an hour or so of curious pokes and prods, everyone finally calmed down and we all got good nights sleep. Double YAY!! Beckie
RE: EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?)
Hi Kelly, just sent a $50 donation--wish it cd be more--to Susan via Paypal. It's wonderful to hear she's in good spirits. I missed all the email over the weekend but understood some of Susan's cats were missing. From your email below it seems not? Would be wonderful if they are indeed all safe--can you let me know when you have a moment. Thanks, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 11:51 AM 8/5/2007, you wrote: thank you Nina Her pay pal account is her email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spoke with her this morning.. she is in surprisingly good spirits as like us her biggest condern was her cats and she had no lossesbelongings can all be replaces Thanks so much You are missed here Nina Kelly Kelly, I'm getting you guys on digest now and am having a hard time finding where you posted the paypal account to send donations for Susan and her kids to. Could you please repost it, with a link if possible? I've called a rescue-friend that lives in the Bay area and she said she will start networking to see what can be done to help. I just can't believe it, this truly is our worst nightmare come true for Susan and her charges. I'm sending prayers and soothing energy to help Susan and her cats rally and get through this. Susan is always so willing to pitch in and help those in need, I just know that she will be paid back 100 fold for all her kind deeds. Thank you for keeping us informed and please let Susan know we care. Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Miles
Beckie, LOLOLOLOL! That is hilarious! I pictured you guys dragging that mattress in there and all the kitties sitting around watching you, with that 'what the heck' look on their faces...lol. So happy Miles is diagnosed and doing so much better! Bless you for taking care of him! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Beckie McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 8:46:30 AM Subject: Miles Well, Miles came thru with flying colors. He indeed has a urinary tract infection. He’s on meds, and we haven’t seen a mess since! YAY Also, we turned on the air in one room for them last night. They were loving it. UNFORTUNATELY, we didn’t turn the air on in our room, and it was MUGGY, so needless to say, we blew up out air mattress, and camped out in the kitty room. I don’t think they knew what to do! Here’s “Mommy and Daddy” laying on the floor in there room. But alas, after about an hour or so of curious pokes and prods, everyone finally calmed down and we all got good nights sleep. Double YAY!! Beckie Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
RE: EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?)
At 07:04 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote: I will speak for her and tell her thank so much..this morning early she was headed to check the traps for the remaining cats. I will keep all posted, Thanks again for helping.. Kelly Hi Kelly, just sent a $50 donation--wish it cd be more--to Susan via Paypal. It's wonderful to hear she's in good spirits. I missed all the email over the weekend but understood some of Susan's cats were missing. From your email below it seems not? Would be wonderful if they are indeed all safe--can you let me know when you have a moment. Thanks, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 11:51 AM 8/5/2007, you wrote: thank you Nina Her pay pal account is her email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spoke with her this morning.. she is in surprisingly good spirits as like us her biggest condern was her cats and she had no lossesbelongings can all be replaces Thanks so much You are missed here Nina Kelly Kelly, I'm getting you guys on digest now and am having a hard time finding where you posted the paypal account to send donations for Susan and her kids to. Could you please repost it, with a link if possible? I've called a rescue-friend that lives in the Bay area and she said she will start networking to see what can be done to help. I just can't believe it, this truly is our worst nightmare come true for Susan and her charges. I'm sending prayers and soothing energy to help Susan and her cats rally and get through this. Susan is always so willing to pitch in and help those in need, I just know that she will be paid back 100 fold for all her kind deeds. Thank you for keeping us informed and please let Susan know we care. Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: Miles
Beckie, What a great little story to start my day on! Thanks! It is so nice when the little darlings have managed to tell us what is wrong and we, with our abilities, are able to actually help them. I'm so glad you solved this problem and Miles is a happy little kitty again. You guys are great! I particularly enjoy your colorful emails ,so please stick around and keep learning with the rest of us how to best care for our kitties. Please keep us posted on how things are going with your FeLV+ kitty. Every day it is something new around here. Bless your hearts, you guys. Glenda --- Beckie McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Miles came thru with flying colors. He indeed has a urinary tract infection. He's on meds, and we haven't seen a mess since! YAY Also, we turned on the air in one room for them last night. They were loving it. UNFORTUNATELY, we didn't turn the air on in our room, and it was MUGGY, so needless to say, we blew up out air mattress, and camped out in the kitty room. I don't think they knew what to do! Here's Mommy and Daddy laying on the floor in there room. But alas, after about an hour or so of curious pokes and prods, everyone finally calmed down and we all got good nights sleep. Double YAY!! Beckie Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
OT: Hi Taylor/theory of convergence
Wow Taylor! What an amazing story. I felt a lump in my throat when I read that Sammy cried when he heard your voice through the oxygen tank. I think your Sammy must be like my Smookie, with those 15 paddling little paws, and clamped leetle mouf...lolololol. What a great description! When Smookie ran off with our laptop wrapped around one of her 15 little paws and sent it flying like a New York style pizza across our tile floor, we had buy a new one at Best Buy. I love that place. They have the best prices. We got a darn good laptop (140 Gig harddrive) for about $750 + tax and financing too at a decent rate. We've had to replace our A/C unit, hot water heater, and husband's back without insurance in the last year too, so girl, I am waiting for those trees to rain money too! lol. I watched Say Anything yesterday with John Cusack, who I've always loved (not literally of course...lol). His girlfriend in the movie said something that really stuck with me. She said she has this theory of convergence, where anytime something really bad happens, something really good happens too. Kind of like a balance theory. I thought that is so true. My grandmother died in July and the next day I got a call from a school district offering me a great job and the opportunity to get out of this dead end job I've been working for five years. I've been praying that God give me an opportunity to leave my job since I started it and I guess it was his timing that this new job become available when it did and I just had to have faith and wait. I was commuting 2+ hours every day to work and now my new job is 10 minutes from my house! Is that quote of yours from THE Don Henley? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 12:13:13 AM Subject: Re: Thanks, Wendy!--OT, but what has been going on over here Wow! Thanks, Wendy! I kind of missed myself there for a while. What with poor little Sammy's FeLV and lymphoma and all the other things going on in my life I went into overload. Sammy went out of remission five weeks ago and was started on a rescue protocol and immediately went back into remission but last week-end, a few days after his second rescue protocol chemotherapy, he had an enormously hard time of it. The rescue protocol really took it out of him. His neutrophil count hit the skids, he was molto lethargic and his body temp went down to 95!--after he had been at his emergency vet, Animal 911, for a while!--so into oxygen on a warming pad with warmed fluids he went. It was touch and go, I was only allowed to look through the oxygen room glass for a very short time, and he stirred and cried when he heard my voice. Oh, my God, it was pitiful! We talked of the possibility of PTS and DNR in another room--away from little Sam, of course, and I went out to buy him, in tears, a beautiful little pink baby blankie to bury him in. But, bingo, he snapped back as his neutrophil count began to rise on its own, thank God! So, the FeLV has not hit his bone marrow (that was the crappy chemo) and he's working hard to keep his immune system perking. The next morning he had eaten (yum yum, baby chicken), was breathing on his own, and looked very perky but fatigued, I believe, as we drove to a 24-hour emergency clinic about five miles away--because he still needed monitoring and I wanted him to have oxygen availability. The emergency doc thought he looked a little peaky, however, and later that afternoon his RBC's dropped and he had a blood transfusion--whew! Talk about the little guy being in the right place at the right time! He came home Tuesday afternoon in his beautiful new pink Homecoming blankie! I called his internal oncologist, a wonderful woman by the name of Amy Wiedemann, DVM, ACVIM for those of you in the Chicago area, and she said he had always been anemic (well, not THAT anemic) since she met him nearly four months ago. She told me that she thinks Sammy is constantly amazing her--because he is still with us here on Earth, sigh! Sammy is now on anti-nausea meds, which is like trying to pill a dragon/crocodile/little baby with about fifteen little clawed feet all paddling at me and anything in my hands away from his leetle mouf, which is clamped shut like a little parakeet's. So I called Animal 911 to see if I could bring him in for pilling and they said yes, we're mobbed. Come on in and we'll do it! So I bundled Sam up with his adorable little Big Sister Lilibet (Little Adoptive Mommy to the triplets) for company because she is so calm and off we went. Fortunately it's only ten or twelve minutes away on quiet streets. And they WERE mobbed! Yikes! I was there yesterday,
Re: My little Moe man.
Beckie, I just realized ,because I was forgetting both Miles and Moe are FeLV+. I forgot that Miles was also FeLV+. It is Holly who is negative...My heart goes out to all you guys. It is a long hard road we are on. Your kitties are so lucky to have you guys! Later, Glenda --- Beckie McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses. I had them do blood work on him, and its fine, he's eating like a cow, and drinking like a camel. Something that I discovered today is that it's NOT him going to the bathroom in the kitchen; it's our OTHER FLV+ cat, Miles. Now Miles is about 4 years old, seems perfectly healthy, eats and drinks, plays, etc. I HAVE noticed that last couple of weeks though he's been being REALLY affectionate, and I haven't been able to spend as much time with him and Holly (our 5 year old cat who does NOT have felv) as I usually do because I've been so busy with Moe. Is it possible that Miles has started to use the kitchen as his own personal bathroom because he's jealous of the attention that Moe is getting and trying to get our attention? I KNOW it's Miles, because he didn't hear me get up this morning, and Moe was lying on my pillow next to my head (like he normally does), and I got up went out to the kitchen, and he must not have heard me, because I caught him red handed doing his business. I made loud noises, and stuff, but I don't know why he's doing this. He has been acting kind of weird. Like if we're in the bathroom taking a shower or using the toilet and the door is closed, he'll sit outside it and just HOWL. Never did this until a few weeks ago. I figured it was because he was worried about Moe, but now not so sure. Also, how much does heat effect felv? We LOVE the heat, and try not to use the air conditioner, but it's going to get pretty warm here in the next week or so, and I was just wondering if I should turn the air on for the cats? Thanks again everyone. I'm so glad I found you all! Beckie Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
There are outdoor, colony cats (all spayed and neutered) on my street that the street, as a whole, kind of takes care of (people put food out). There's a lady a few houses up the street from me that started this- I think some of them she "rescued" from bad pet stores, but she lets them roam free on the street. I've had a few conversations with her about the cats. There are at least four that are outdoor-outdoor. There's a few others that I think sometimes go in the lady's house. She says the four outdoor ones won't go in her house though and that's why they stay out, year round...? I've been in this neighborhood about a year and I feed the cats and keep fresh water out for them. I worried about them in the winter, so I fed them even more when it was bitter cold. Other people feed them too, but there's 3 of them that seem to prefer my food (of course) and my company, so they are at my door a lot. Two of them will come on my front screened porch and "hang-out." I've stepped up the attention I give them and the feeding since Monkee died because they were a way for me to continue to interact with cats and to look out after something. One of them, my favorite, is this tiny (under 9 pounds) little girl who is "just one of the guys" and she's runs roughshod over them. When the dominant male is not around, she's sweet, adorable little cat. When the males are around, she's large and in charge. She will let me pet her and now I can hold her. I knew she had tapeworms because I saw the segments. I finally got a tapeworm pill for free from my Shamrock Foundation contact and I pilled the little girl this weekend-- it went fine, she fought me, but I came out of it without even one scratch. I'm such a good piller- it shocks even me! My Shamrock contact also gave me a free Advantage to put on her because I wanted to control her fleas. I give only the little girl Wellness wet food and I mix in Colostrum, L-Lysine, and pet calm (the male cats are large and healthy looking, so I don't treat them to the Wellness if I can help it). I am just trying to what I can to help boost her immune system. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I guess my question is this: should I be trying to treat the other outdoor cats with flea control too? I just wanted to hit the little girl for now because I knew she had tapeworms, but I haven't yet seen segments on the other ones (and I always check their butts), even thoughI know it's highly likely they all probably have them and other worms too. What do people think about Frontline Spray? Is it safe to use? Could I treat the other ones with Frontline Spray? I am just looking for advice here because I don't know what I am doing! I would probably haul them all upto the vet if I could but I can't afford it right now. I still owe $400 on Monkee's vet bills. I am currently fostering an 11 month old female tortie, declawed, surrender from two different homes that the 2nd home surrendered her to Animal Control (instead of a no-kill shelter like Shamrock)-- idiots-- but thank god, my Shamrock contact was literally on the street doing a re-release and saw the whole thing going on and she got the cat out of the pound 24 hrs later. She's been with me over a week now and I am thinking about keeping her, so that would mean more vet bills. On top of all that, my mom (a reluctant participant) and I did a rescue of a severely malnourished spayed female on Saturday that's been out in my mom's neighborhood for about 3 weeks. She's staying in a crate in a room in my mom's house. She looked horrible (weepy infected eyes)- which I am treating with terramycin but she needs vet care because she is so malnourished and has fleas, etc. She's getting Wellness wet food, also with Colostrum, L-Lysine, lots of pet calm/rescue remedy and tons of Nutrical. My mom reports she looks much better (finally) this a.m. and her eyes look much improved. So, I am hoping that we can get Shamrock to help fund us taking her to a vet, but if not, then it's on us. Also, I live in Kentucky and it's been incredibly hot here and it's only getting worse. This is what made me finally treat the little girl for tapeworms and fleas- because I knew the heat was going to stress her out and I didn't want her further stressed by having worms. Apparently, it's going to be the hottest it's been in 5 years, so I am really worrying now about the colony/street cats in this heat. Any suggestions as to what I can do to help them get through this heat wave? Thanks, Caroline See what youre getting into before you go there
Re: EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?)
Kelly - I am wodnering if she can get an access to a drop trap - it will be so much easier to trap possibly all of the cats altogether very quickly with it - - Original Message - From: Kelly Lmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: RE: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 07:04 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote: I will speak for her and tell her thank so much..this morning early she was headed to check the traps for the remaining cats. I will keep all posted, Thanks again for helping.. Kelly Hi Kelly, just sent a $50 donation--wish it cd be more--to Susan via Paypal. It's wonderful to hear she's in good spirits. I missed all the email over the weekend but understood some of Susan's cats were missing. From your email below it seems not? Would be wonderful if they are indeed all safe--can you let me know when you have a moment. Thanks, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 11:51 AM 8/5/2007, you wrote: thank you Nina Her pay pal account is her email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spoke with her this morning.. she is in surprisingly good spirits as like us her biggest condern was her cats and she had no lossesbelongings can all be replaces Thanks so much You are missed here Nina Kelly Kelly, I'm getting you guys on digest now and am having a hard time finding where you posted the paypal account to send donations for Susan and her kids to. Could you please repost it, with a link if possible? I've called a rescue-friend that lives in the Bay area and she said she will start networking to see what can be done to help. I just can't believe it, this truly is our worst nightmare come true for Susan and her charges. I'm sending prayers and soothing energy to help Susan and her cats rally and get through this. Susan is always so willing to pitch in and help those in need, I just know that she will be paid back 100 fold for all her kind deeds. Thank you for keeping us informed and please let Susan know we care. Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
Hi Caroline, I think you are doing a fantastic job with this colony! Most ferals don't get near the quality of food and care that you and your neighborhood friends (bless you guys!) are trying to provide. I would probably not treat any kitties with the chemicals, like Advantage, because if something goes wrong, you probably won't be able to get them to a vet. Instead, maybe treat the land. I don't know what everyone here thinks of Sevin Dust, but we've used it for ages in my family to treat our land/lawn and also have put it on our pets (when I was younger; I use Advantage now). You can buy it at Walmart. I did find some conflicting info. on the Internet as to one of the ingredients, carbaryl, so you might do some more research and ask Dr. Meier about it. I also heard from a member here who emailed me off-list and told me that they use a holistic vet to treat for fleas, so you might consider contacting Dr. Meier and ask her if there's something natural you can put in their food that will combat the fleas. I have never used the Frontline spray; I didn't even know it existed! As far as the heat goes, just make sure there's lots of fresh, cool water (you may have to change this out a lot throughout the day) and maybe even put out one of those water fountain things (I have one and my cats love it!), and safe shade for them if you can. You can also add ice to the water to keep it cool and some cats like to play with it. I also read that you can put frozen peas in a plastic bag and put it out on your stoop. It's cool and if the kitty's lie on it, it will conform to their bodies and keep them cool. Hope this helps! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
My mom worries about the chemicals- the sprays and the flea powders. She thinks they aren't safe. Anyone else's thought? The Advantage is supposed to be super-safe though. I checked on Lil Girl many times yesterday after I treated her with Advantage- to make sure she's not having a reaction (she's not). I have been putting ice (and pet calm) in their water. But I work during the day, so I can't always change it out until the evening. There is a wooded area right at the end of the street (I am the third to last house at the bottom of a hill, near the woods) and there's no sun in there and the temp is markedly cooler.They disappear during the hottest part of the day, so they may be going there- I hope so. I did order HomeoPet from the website Susan Dubose recommended- Lambriar. It's a hook, round and tape dewormer and it's supposed to be a natural intestinal cleanser liquid you can add to their food. If anyone has tried it/heard of it, let me know. I also may be moving soon, so I guess I am just trying to do what I can for them now. I don't want to leave the street cats, but I rent the house I live in now. -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issuesDate: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Hi Caroline, I thinkyou are doing a fantastic job with this colony! Mostferals don't get near the quality of food and care that you and your neighborhood friends (bless you guys!) are trying to provide. I would probably not treat any kitties with the chemicals, like Advantage, because if somethinggoes wrong, you probably won't be able to get them to a vet. Instead, maybe treat the land. Idon't know what everyone here thinks of Sevin Dust, but we've used it for ages in my family to treat our land/lawn and also have put it on our pets (when I was younger; I useAdvantage now). You can buy it at Walmart. I did find some conflicting info. on the Internet as to one of the ingredients, carbaryl, so you might do some more research and ask Dr. Meier about it. I also heard from a member here who emailed me off-list and told me that they use a holistic vet to treat for fleas, so you might consider contactingDr. Meier and ask her ifthere's something natural you can put in their food that will combat the fleas. I have never used the Frontline spray; I didn't even know it existed! As far as the heat goes, just make sure there's lots of fresh, cool water (you may have to change this out a lot throughout the day) and maybe even put out one of those water fountain things (I have one and my cats love it!), and safe shade for them if you can. You can also add ice to the water to keep it cool and some cats like to play with it. I also read that you can put frozen peas in a plastic bag and put it out on your stoop. It's cool and if the kitty's lie on it, it will conform to their bodies and keep them cool. Hope this helps! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail.
Re: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
Call Dr. Susan Maier for ideas on natural and/or safe products. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues There are outdoor, colony cats (all spayed and neutered) on my street that the street, as a whole, kind of takes care of (people put food out). There's a lady a few houses up the street from me that started this- I think some of them she rescued from bad pet stores, but she lets them roam free on the street. I've had a few conversations with her about the cats. There are at least four that are outdoor-outdoor. There's a few others that I think sometimes go in the lady's house. She says the four outdoor ones won't go in her house though and that's why they stay out, year round... ? I've been in this neighborhood about a year and I feed the cats and keep fresh water out for them. I worried about them in the winter, so I fed them even more when it was bitter cold. Other people feed them too, but there's 3 of them that seem to prefer my food (of course) and my company, so they are at my door a lot. Two of them will come on my front screened porch and hang-out. I've stepped up the attention I give them and the feeding since Monkee died because they were a way for me to continue to interact with cats and to look out after something. One of them, my favorite, is this tiny (under 9 pounds) little girl who is just one of the guys and she's runs roughshod over them. When the dominant male is not around, she's sweet, adorable little cat. When the males are around, she's large and in charge. She will let me pet her and now I can hold her. I knew she had tapeworms because I saw the segments. I finally got a tapeworm pill for free from my Shamrock Foundation contact and I pilled the little girl this weekend-- it went fine, she fought me, but I came out of it without even one scratch. I'm such a good piller- it shocks even me! My Shamrock contact also gave me a free Advantage to put on her because I wanted to control her fleas. I give only the little girl Wellness wet food and I mix in Colostrum, L-Lysine, and pet calm (the male cats are large and healthy looking, so I don't treat them to the Wellness if I can help it). I am just trying to what I can to help boost her immune system. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I guess my question is this: should I be trying to treat the other outdoor cats with flea control too? I just wanted to hit the little girl for now because I knew she had tapeworms, but I haven't yet seen segments on the other ones (and I always check their butts), even though I know it's highly likely they all probably have them and other worms too. What do people think about Frontline Spray? Is it safe to use? Could I treat the other ones with Frontline Spray? I am just looking for advice here because I don't know what I am doing! I would probably haul them all up to the vet if I could but I can't afford it right now. I still owe $400 on Monkee's vet bills. I am currently fostering an 11 month old female tortie, declawed, surrender from two different homes that the 2nd home surrendered her to Animal Control (instead of a no-kill shelter like Shamrock)-- idiots-- but thank god, my Shamrock contact was literally on the street doing a re-release and saw the whole thing going on and she got the cat out of the pound 24 hrs later. She's been with me over a week now and I am thinking about keeping her, so that would mean more vet bills. On top of all that, my mom (a reluctant participant) and I did a rescue of a severely malnourished spayed female on Saturday that's been out in my mom's neighborhood for about 3 weeks. She's staying in a crate in a room in my mom's house. She looked horrible (weepy infected eyes)- which I am treating with terramycin but she needs vet care because she is so malnourished and has fleas, etc. She's getting Wellness wet food, also with Colostrum, L-Lysine, lots of pet calm/rescue remedy and tons of Nutrical. My mom reports she looks much better (finally) this a.m. and her eyes look much improved. So, I am hoping that we can get Shamrock to help fund us taking her to a vet, but if not, then it's on us. Also, I live in Kentucky and it's been incredibly hot here and it's only getting worse. This is what made me finally treat the little girl for tapeworms and fleas- because I knew the heat was going to stress her out and
Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
Take a empty gallon jug (water/milk etc), fill it with water and freeze it. Put it in the water dish (may have to get a bigger one and don't use metal--it conducts the heat/cold). This will keep the water cool for a pretty good while even in this heat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues My mom worries about the chemicals- the sprays and the flea powders. She thinks they aren't safe. Anyone else's thought? The Advantage is supposed to be super-safe though. I checked on Lil Girl many times yesterday after I treated her with Advantage- to make sure she's not having a reaction (she's not). I have been putting ice (and pet calm) in their water. But I work during the day, so I can't always change it out until the evening. There is a wooded area right at the end of the street (I am the third to last house at the bottom of a hill, near the woods) and there's no sun in there and the temp is markedly cooler. They disappear during the hottest part of the day, so they may be going there- I hope so. I did order HomeoPet from the website Susan Dubose recommended- Lambriar. It's a hook, round and tape dewormer and it's supposed to be a natural intestinal cleanser liquid you can add to their food. If anyone has tried it/heard of it, let me know. I also may be moving soon, so I guess I am just trying to do what I can for them now. I don't want to leave the street cats, but I rent the house I live in now. -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Hi Caroline, I think you are doing a fantastic job with this colony! Most ferals don't get near the quality of food and care that you and your neighborhood friends (bless you guys!) are trying to provide. I would probably not treat any kitties with the chemicals, like Advantage, because if something goes wrong, you probably won't be able to get them to a vet. Instead, maybe treat the land. I don't know what everyone here thinks of Sevin Dust, but we've used it for ages in my family to treat our land/lawn and also have put it on our pets (when I was younger; I use Advantage now). You can buy it at Walmart. I did find some conflicting info. on the Internet as to one of the ingredients, carbaryl, so you might do some more research and ask Dr. Meier about it. I also heard from a member here who emailed me off-list and told me that they use a holistic vet to treat for fleas, so you might consider contacting Dr. Meier and ask her if there's something natural you can put in their food that will combat the fleas. I have never used the Frontline spray; I didn't even know it existed! As far as the heat goes, just make sure there's lots of fresh, cool water (you may have to change this out a lot throughout the day) and maybe even put out one of those water fountain things (I have one and my cats love it!), and safe shade for them if you can. You can also add ice to the water to keep it cool and some cats like to play with it. I also read that you can put frozen peas in a plastic bag and put it out on your stoop. It's cool and if the kitty's lie on it, it will conform to their bodies and keep them cool. Hope this helps! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- More photos, more messages, more storage-get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail.
Re: EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?)
At 08:48 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote: they are in a varietyof places and in no danger so this will be the best way and her neighbors are also helping her Thanks for the suggestion though Hideyo Kelly Kelly - I am wodnering if she can get an access to a drop trap - it will be so much easier to trap possibly all of the cats altogether very quickly with it - - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: RE: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 07:04 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote: I will speak for her and tell her thank so much..this morning early she was headed to check the traps for the remaining cats. I will keep all posted, Thanks again for helping.. Kelly Hi Kelly, just sent a $50 donation--wish it cd be more--to Susan via Paypal. It's wonderful to hear she's in good spirits. I missed all the email over the weekend but understood some of Susan's cats were missing. From your email below it seems not? Would be wonderful if they are indeed all safe--can you let me know when you have a moment. Thanks, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:03 PM To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! House fire!!! (paypal for donations?) At 11:51 AM 8/5/2007, you wrote: thank you Nina Her pay pal account is her email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spoke with her this morning.. she is in surprisingly good spirits as like us her biggest condern was her cats and she had no lossesbelongings can all be replaces Thanks so much You are missed here Nina Kelly Kelly, I'm getting you guys on digest now and am having a hard time finding where you posted the paypal account to send donations for Susan and her kids to. Could you please repost it, with a link if possible? I've called a rescue-friend that lives in the Bay area and she said she will start networking to see what can be done to help. I just can't believe it, this truly is our worst nightmare come true for Susan and her charges. I'm sending prayers and soothing energy to help Susan and her cats rally and get through this. Susan is always so willing to pitch in and help those in need, I just know that she will be paid back 100 fold for all her kind deeds. Thank you for keeping us informed and please let Susan know we care. Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM
Re: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
For the heat, I would just make sure there is always plenty of fresh, clean water for them. As far as fleas, you can buy the large dog size of Advantage or Frontline and break it down to the proper dosage for cats. That's what I do every month, I am treating 60+ cats per month. My inside cats are even getitng treatment because the fleas are s bad this year, the fleas are in the yard and can get in throught he enclosure, even tho it is screened. If you want to the actual doasges to use, email me offlist. You can buy both of these products cheap @ Revival right now, w/ $2.99 shipping. You can get about 5 or 6 dosages of treatment out of one large dog size tube. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues There are outdoor, colony cats (all spayed and neutered) on my street that the street, as a whole, kind of takes care of (people put food out). There's a lady a few houses up the street from me that started this- I think some of them she rescued from bad pet stores, but she lets them roam free on the street. I've had a few conversations with her about the cats. There are at least four that are outdoor-outdoor. There's a few others that I think sometimes go in the lady's house. She says the four outdoor ones won't go in her house though and that's why they stay out, year round... ? I've been in this neighborhood about a year and I feed the cats and keep fresh water out for them. I worried about them in the winter, so I fed them even more when it was bitter cold. Other people feed them too, but there's 3 of them that seem to prefer my food (of course) and my company, so they are at my door a lot. Two of them will come on my front screened porch and hang-out. I've stepped up the attention I give them and the feeding since Monkee died because they were a way for me to continue to interact with cats and to look out after something. One of them, my favorite, is this tiny (under 9 pounds) little girl who is just one of the guys and she's runs roughshod over them. When the dominant male is not around, she's sweet, adorable little cat. When the males are around, she's large and in charge. She will let me pet her and now I can hold her. I knew she had tapeworms because I saw the segments. I finally got a tapeworm pill for free from my Shamrock Foundation contact and I pilled the little girl this weekend-- it went fine, she fought me, but I came out of it without even one scratch. I'm such a good piller- it shocks even me! My Shamrock contact also gave me a free Advantage to put on her because I wanted to control her fleas. I give only the little girl Wellness wet food and I mix in Colostrum, L-Lysine, and pet calm (the male cats are large and healthy looking, so I don't treat them to the Wellness if I can help it). I am just trying to what I can to help boost her immune system. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I guess my question is this: should I be trying to treat the other outdoor cats with flea control too? I just wanted to hit the little girl for now because I knew she had tapeworms, but I haven't yet seen segments on the other ones (and I always check their butts), even though I know it's highly likely they all probably have them and other worms too. What do people think about Frontline Spray? Is it safe to use? Could I treat the other ones with Frontline Spray? I am just looking for advice here because I don't know what I am doing! I would probably haul them all up to the vet if I could but I can't afford it right now. I still owe $400 on Monkee's vet bills. I am currently fostering an 11 month old female tortie, declawed, surrender from two different homes that the 2nd home surrendered her to Animal Control (instead of a no-kill shelter like Shamrock)-- idiots-- but thank god, my Shamrock contact was literally on the street doing a re-release and saw the whole thing going on and she got the cat out of the pound 24 hrs later. She's been with me over a week now and I am thinking about keeping her, so that would mean more vet bills. On top of all that, my mom (a reluctant participant) and I did a rescue of a severely malnourished spayed female on Saturday that's been out in my mom's neighborhood for about 3 weeks. She's staying in a crate in a room in my mom's house. She looked horrible (weepy infected eyes)- which I
Re: My little Moe man.
Those little guys are the limit! One of the 3 Orange Boyz, Charlie, wants to be Top Cat (and there are already two others--one is my big baby tuxedo boy Billi Bi, who wants to be the only baby, not those stupid red babies! Poor little Billi. He is such a sweetheart! He had to have an operation to reroute his little pee pee because of recurrent FLUTD and the fur is just growing back there so he looks like a guy in furry black chaps--it's hilarious! But he is much happier and pain-free now and the cool thing is he had reconstructive plastic surgery so he still looks like a boy so his fragile male ego is still intact--and not some strange little girl! Can you believe it? Well, back to Charlie, who started life as Twinkie because he was Twinkie-colored: cake on the top and filling on the bottom! And he was teeny to boot. Well, now he's huge and obnoxious. It's just me me me all the time! He pees in the bathroom sink and poops in there, too, which is better than when he really gets pissed because he's not getting enough attention: he pooped on my cd/clock/radio TWICE! Fortunately it survived nicely with a delicate cleaning with paper towels, q-tips and cat cleaner. So I figure the bathroom sink is better. And, of course, he also uses the cat boxes. What a wacko. My advice? Don't close the bathroom door if you can get away with it. When he can come and go he'll feel more secure, sigh, and lavish him with attention, too. They usually are scared of the shower sound, anyway, and will dash out. Hugs and kisses, carrying him around. I've been doing that with Charlie. AND I've been calling him Twinkie, too. He likes that, I think. Does he pee and poo in the same location in the kitchen? Put some peepee pads down and live with it for awhile for now. Better than pooping in your clock radio! Love and kisses, Tee 'n' the Wildlife On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Beckie McRae wrote: Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses. I had them do blood work on him, and its fine, he’s eating like a cow, and drinking like a camel. Something that I discovered today is that it’s NOT him going to the bathroom in the kitchen; it’s our OTHER FLV+ cat, Miles. Now Miles is about 4 years old, seems perfectly healthy, eats and drinks, plays, etc. I HAVE noticed that last couple of weeks though he’s been being REALLY affectionate, and I haven’t been able to spend as much time with him and Holly (our 5 year old cat who does NOT have felv) as I usually do because I’ve been so busy with Moe. Is it possible that Miles has started to use the kitchen as his own personal bathroom because he’s jealous of the attention that Moe is getting and trying to get our attention? I KNOW it’s Miles, because he didn’t hear me get up this morning, and Moe was lying on my pillow next to my head (like he normally does), and I got up went out to the kitchen, and he must not have heard me, because I caught him red handed doing his business. I made loud noises, and stuff, but I don’t know why he’s doing this. He has been acting kind of weird. Like if we’re in the bathroom taking a shower or using the toilet and the door is closed, he’ll sit outside it and just HOWL. Never did this until a few weeks ago. I figured it was because he was worried about Moe, but now not so sure. Also, how much does heat effect felv? We LOVE the heat, and try not to use the air conditioner, but it’s going to get pretty warm here in the next week or so, and I was just wondering if I should turn the air on for the cats? Thanks again everyone. I’m so glad I found you all! Beckie
Re: Vaccinating kittens of unknown status against FeLV?
Poor baby Sox. It's so painful when a little one dies. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Malone wrote: I was told I didn’t need to test anymore by my vet that Sox was healthy, and he was vaccinated. I wish I had waited until he was a few weeks older, tested him, and then I would have known. He died at 9 months, and he had been vaccinated. His mother had FeLV, but at the time I didn’t know. She was a feral that wasn’t caught until the month after he died. All his litter mates died as well. I really still know nothing about this virus other than the fact it is heart wrenching to see a beloved pet die. I will always test. Now my baby boy, who has been vaccinated, has contracted the virus. He is healthy, and I try to learn from people here how to keep him healthy.
Re: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues
FYI: Dixie had to stay in an unair conditioned garage for quite a while after she tested FELV +. I, too, was concerned about the heat but my vets said she would be fine if she could get out of the sun and had plenty of water. This is Ky. temperatures if that tells you anything. The soil under low growing bushes is cool. The vets pointed out that cats originated in Africa and are more accustomed to heat than dogs. This does not mean leave the cat in a car and go shopping though. Ebony and Mi Tu spent many hot days in duct work that led from an a/ced house to an outside kennel with plenty of shade. To me, the cool water is the most important thing. And part of the cool keeps the water fresher. It does not grow green slime as fast. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues For the heat, I would just make sure there is always plenty of fresh, clean water for them. As far as fleas, you can buy the large dog size of Advantage or Frontline and break it down to the proper dosage for cats. That's what I do every month, I am treating 60+ cats per month. My inside cats are even getitng treatment because the fleas are s bad this year, the fleas are in the yard and can get in throught he enclosure, even tho it is screened. If you want to the actual doasges to use, email me offlist. You can buy both of these products cheap @ Revival right now, w/ $2.99 shipping. You can get about 5 or 6 dosages of treatment out of one large dog size tube. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: OT: Flea Control for colony/street cats, heat and other issues There are outdoor, colony cats (all spayed and neutered) on my street that the street, as a whole, kind of takes care of (people put food out). There's a lady a few houses up the street from me that started this- I think some of them she rescued from bad pet stores, but she lets them roam free on the street. I've had a few conversations with her about the cats. There are at least four that are outdoor-outdoor. There's a few others that I think sometimes go in the lady's house. She says the four outdoor ones won't go in her house though and that's why they stay out, year round... ? I've been in this neighborhood about a year and I feed the cats and keep fresh water out for them. I worried about them in the winter, so I fed them even more when it was bitter cold. Other people feed them too, but there's 3 of them that seem to prefer my food (of course) and my company, so they are at my door a lot. Two of them will come on my front screened porch and hang-out. I've stepped up the attention I give them and the feeding since Monkee died because they were a way for me to continue to interact with cats and to look out after something. One of them, my favorite, is this tiny (under 9 pounds) little girl who is just one of the guys and she's runs roughshod over them. When the dominant male is not around, she's sweet, adorable little cat. When the males are around, she's large and in charge. She will let me pet her and now I can hold her. I knew she had tapeworms because I saw the segments. I finally got a tapeworm pill for free from my Shamrock Foundation contact and I pilled the little girl this weekend-- it went fine, she fought me, but I came out of it without even one scratch. I'm such a good piller- it shocks even me! My Shamrock contact also gave me a free Advantage to put on her because I wanted to control her fleas. I give only the little girl Wellness wet food and I mix in Colostrum, L-Lysine, and pet calm (the male cats are large and healthy looking, so I don't treat them to the Wellness if I can help it). I am just trying to what I can to help boost her immune system. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I guess my question is this: should I be trying to treat the
Re: Vaccinating kittens of unknown status against FeLV?
Do every thing you can to strengthen his immune system--really good food and supplements. Then see an alternative vet to supplement your regular vet's advise. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Vaccinating kittens of unknown status against FeLV? Poor baby Sox. It's so painful when a little one dies. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Malone wrote: I was told I didn’t need to test anymore by my vet that Sox was healthy, and he was vaccinated. I wish I had waited until he was a few weeks older, tested him, and then I would have known. He died at 9 months, and he had been vaccinated. His mother had FeLV, but at the time I didn’t know. She was a feral that wasn’t caught until the month after he died. All his litter mates died as well. I really still know nothing about this virus other than the fact it is heart wrenching to see a beloved pet die. I will always test. Now my baby boy, who has been vaccinated, has contracted the virus. He is healthy, and I try to learn from people here how to keep him healthy.
WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER?
Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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Oh, no! Was it so long it w kicked back? THAT happens! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 6, 2007, at 6:29 PM, glenda Goodman wrote: Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda __ __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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Glenda, If we have been receiving the posts, I'm assuming you are a member. Are you posting through the digest are do you read the posts individually via email? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 6:29:34 PM Subject: WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER? Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
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If she got a post rejected it is because it is too long. Eventually you have to snip themor they will come back. On 8/6/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenda, If we have been receiving the posts, I'm assuming you are a member. Are you posting through the digest are do you read the posts individually via email? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 6:29:34 PM Subject: WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER? Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Wendy, I get them via email? I do not know what the digest is? Thanks, Glenda --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenda, If we have been receiving the posts, I'm assuming you are a member. Are you posting through the digest are do you read the posts individually via email? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 6:29:34 PM Subject: WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER? Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
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Yup, it was looong. I thought about making two out of it , but did not want to put everyone through two of my wordy emails, when one did cover it... It was an OT concerning FIV, something I am not that knowledgeable about... THANK YOU! GLENDA --- Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, no! Was it so long it w kicked back? THAT happens! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 6, 2007, at 6:29 PM, glenda Goodman wrote: Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda __ __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...
--- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the worst happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED. FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD AND HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK EARLIER I HAD BOUGHT A CAT TRAP AND HAD BEEN TRYING TO TRAP THE STRANGE CAT...NO LUCK UNTIL LAST NIGHT. WELL, TODAY, THE STRANGE CAT IS AT OUR LOCAL SHELTER. HE IS A PRETTY CAT , BUT THEY SAID HE IS IN WITH THE WILD CATS. HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I WANT TO NAME HIM MARMALADE.HE DESERVES A NAME... HE HISSED AT ME LAST NIGHT, BUT SETTLED DOWN AFTER I TALKED, QUIETLY TO HIM. THEN THE POLICEMAN TOOK HIM AND HAULED HIM OFF TO THE SHELTER. I WAS TOLD THEY WILL KEEP HIM 3-DAYS. THEN HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY FEETO HAVING BEEN BITTEN, SO I HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION TO TAKE HIM, MARMALADE, IN TO BE TESTED FOR FeLV AND FIV. I TOLD MY FRIEND, IF HE TESTS CLEAN, IT IS VERY SAD HE WILL BE PUT DOWN, A BEAUTIFUL AND HEALTHY CAT...HE ONLY NEEDS A LITTLE TIME TO BE SOCIALIZED. WE HAVE NO OPTIONS ,WHATSOEVER,HERE, FOR WILD KITTIES. MY BRAIN WILL BE WORKING OVERTIME ON WAYS TO SAVE THIS CAT, ESPECIALLY, IF HE TESTS NEGATIVE...MAYBE I CAN BUY HIM A LITTLE TIME...I DO KNOW, I PROBABLY DRIVE MY SHELTER HERE A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT OUR HEARTS ARE REALLY ALL IN THE SAME PLACE, SO WE AT LEAST DO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. WE HAVE A VERY LOVING SHELTER HERE, BUT IT IS ALWAYS A MATTER OF MONEY AND SPACE... I WILL APPRECIATE ALL FEEDBACK. I GUESS MOSTLY, I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL THESE LADIES THAT HAVE THE FIV+ KITTENS. I WILL ALSO NEED A LITTLE EDUCATING ABOUT CAT BITES AND WHAT TO EXPECT IF THIS CAT THAT BIT MY FEETO TESTS POSITIVE FOR FIV. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR GETTING THROUGH THIS LONG RAMBLING POST... GLENDA Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone
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Prayers and good thoughts for George. tonya Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were quite afraid he wasn't going to make it. And he still may not. They aren't certain his intestines are absorbing food. Thanks for the compliments on the website:) On 8/5/07, wendy wrote: A Kelley, he looks pooped! Adorable too! Prayers going out that he feels better soon. Your website also looks fantastic! Love the color scheme. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 12:22:43 PM Subject: George, home from the hospital Poor little man is so pitiful. http://www.rescuties.org/animals/detail?AnimalID=250647 The emergency hospital did not know what was wrong, but, tehy were happy to take our $600. Be thinking good throughts for him. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Re: Thanks, Wendy!--OT, but what has been going on over here
Good to see you back and glad to hear Sammy rallied again. tonya Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thanks, Wendy! I kind of missed myself there for a while. What with poor little Sammy's FeLV and lymphoma and all the other things going on in my life I went into overload. Sammy went out of remission five weeks ago and was started on a rescue protocol and immediately went back into remission but last week-end, a few days after his second rescue protocol chemotherapy, he had an enormously hard time of it. The rescue protocol really took it out of him. His neutrophil count hit the skids, he was molto lethargic and his body temp went down to 95!--after he had been at his emergency vet, Animal 911, for a while!--so into oxygen on a warming pad with warmed fluids he went. It was touch and go, I was only allowed to look through the oxygen room glass for a very short time, and he stirred and cried when he heard my voice. Oh, my God, it was pitiful! We talked of the possibility of PTS and DNR in another room--away from little Sam, of course, and I went out to buy him, in tears, a beautiful little pink baby blankie to bury him in. But, bingo, he snapped back as his neutrophil count began to rise on its own, thank God! So, the FeLV has not hit his bone marrow (that was the crappy chemo) and he's working hard to keep his immune system perking. The next morning he had eaten (yum yum, baby chicken), was breathing on his own, and looked very perky but fatigued, I believe, as we drove to a 24-hour emergency clinic about five miles away--because he still needed monitoring and I wanted him to have oxygen availability. The emergency doc thought he looked a little peaky, however, and later that afternoon his RBC's dropped and he had a blood transfusion--whew! Talk about the little guy being in the right place at the right time! He came home Tuesday afternoon in his beautiful new pink Homecoming blankie! I called his internal oncologist, a wonderful woman by the name of Amy Wiedemann, DVM, ACVIM for those of you in the Chicago area, and she said he had always been anemic (well, not THAT anemic) since she met him nearly four months ago. She told me that she thinks Sammy is constantly amazing her--because he is still with us here on Earth, sigh! Sammy is now on anti-nausea meds, which is like trying to pill a dragon/crocodile/little baby with about fifteen little clawed feet all paddling at me and anything in my hands away from his leetle mouf, which is clamped shut like a little parakeet's. So I called Animal 911 to see if I could bring him in for pilling and they said yes, we're mobbed. Come on in and we'll do it! So I bundled Sam up with his adorable little Big Sister Lilibet (Little Adoptive Mommy to the triplets) for company because she is so calm and off we went. Fortunately it's only ten or twelve minutes away on quiet streets. And they WERE mobbed! Yikes! I was there yesterday, Saturday, with Sammy's giant brother Charlie because I thought he had a bladder infection but it was just (always after the regular vet has closed) a tiny bit of intestinal trouble--just looked like it was from his bladder. Oh, my Lord! Plus both the washing machine and the DW have given up the ghost so I'm a virtual unwashed, unmade bed (and by this time I don't even notice!) with a sinkful of dishes, off to--finally!--buy W/D and DW for my mom's house on Monday. Next? Try all new windows, a new microwave, an oven that actually works, a new fridge. Yes, it's the joys of taking care of Elderly Mommy! Oh--and she lost more of her sight over the last month or so, too. And constantly watching over the little one. When are the trees going to start raining money, eh? Love to all of you from me 'n' the small, four-footed brood, Tee Don't you know that women are the only works of art? --Donald Henley On Aug 4, 2007, at 12:03 AM, wendy wrote: Taylor, Glad to see you! We missed you! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2007 12:00:22 AM Subject: Re: I need information please Get your precious little girl vaccinated for FeLV. Don't put your boy down. It is hardly necessary. I'm always shocked when vets still feel that way--that is old thinking! Just because he tests positive for FeLV doesn't mean he will get sick right away. My kitty Mamie lived for ten years with FeLV. The absolutely main thing you must think of is no stress for little Basil. Of course, that means Basil will be the most spoiled cat on the planet--but what are our darling pets for if
Re: OT: need a little quick advice here...
Glenda, if the little wild orange guy Marmalade is clean can you--or someone else--take him? Sometimes a cat that seems wild in a shelter is merely scared to death, as for instance he calmed right down when you spoke quietly to him. Bless you for taking him to be tested. You've done a very good deed. If he is positive it does not automatically mean little Feeto (WHAT a superb name! I love it!) will get anything OR he may get something and throw it off. It's much easier for an older cat's immune system to throw off a virus than, say, a kitten given FeLV by its mother--their immune systems are hardly fully developed so it's harder for them to mount an immune response to invaders. By the way, this month's Scientific American has a big article on how cancer cells hijack the human immune system to use it for their ends and new chemotherapy protocols in the works. Extremely informative. Also a great learning tool about the immune system of mammmals like us AND kitties. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:18 PM, glenda Goodman wrote: --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the worst happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED. FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD AND HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK EARLIER I HAD BOUGHT A CAT TRAP AND HAD BEEN TRYING TO TRAP THE STRANGE CAT...NO LUCK UNTIL LAST NIGHT. WELL, TODAY, THE STRANGE CAT IS AT OUR LOCAL SHELTER. HE IS A PRETTY CAT , BUT THEY SAID HE IS IN WITH THE WILD CATS. HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I WANT TO NAME HIM MARMALADE.HE DESERVES A NAME... HE HISSED AT ME LAST NIGHT, BUT SETTLED DOWN AFTER I TALKED, QUIETLY TO HIM. THEN THE POLICEMAN TOOK HIM AND HAULED HIM OFF TO THE SHELTER. I WAS TOLD THEY WILL KEEP HIM 3-DAYS. THEN HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY FEETO HAVING BEEN BITTEN, SO I HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION TO TAKE HIM, MARMALADE, IN TO BE TESTED FOR FeLV AND FIV. I TOLD MY FRIEND, IF HE TESTS CLEAN, IT IS VERY SAD HE WILL BE PUT DOWN, A BEAUTIFUL AND HEALTHY CAT...HE ONLY NEEDS A LITTLE TIME TO BE SOCIALIZED. WE HAVE NO OPTIONS ,WHATSOEVER,HERE, FOR WILD KITTIES. MY BRAIN WILL BE WORKING OVERTIME ON WAYS TO SAVE THIS CAT, ESPECIALLY, IF HE TESTS NEGATIVE...MAYBE I CAN BUY HIM A LITTLE
Re: Thanks, Wendy!--OT, but what has been going on over here
Thanks so much, Tonya. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:41 PM, catatonya wrote: Good to see you back and glad to hear Sammy rallied again. tonya Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thanks, Wendy! I kind of missed myself there for a while. What with poor little Sammy's FeLV and lymphoma and all the other things going on in my life I went into overload. Sammy went out of remission five weeks ago and was started on a rescue protocol and immediately went back into remission but last week-end, a few days after his second rescue protocol chemotherapy, he had an enormously hard time of it. The rescue protocol really took it out of him. His neutrophil count hit the skids, he was molto lethargic and his body temp went down to 95!--after he had been at his emergency vet, Animal 911, for a while!--so into oxygen on a warming pad with warmed fluids he went. It was touch and go, I was only allowed to look through the oxygen room glass for a very short time, and he stirred and cried when he heard my voice. Oh, my God, it was pitiful! We talked of the possibility of PTS and DNR in another room--away from little Sam, of course, and I went out to buy him, in tears, a beautiful little pink baby blankie to bury him in. But, bingo, he snapped back as his neutrophil count began to rise on its own, thank God! So, the FeLV has not hit his bone marrow (that was the crappy chemo) and he's working hard to keep his immune system perking. The next morning he had eaten (yum yum, baby chicken), was breathing on his own, and looked very perky but fatigued, I believe, as we drove to a 24-hour emergency clinic about five miles away--because he still needed monitoring and I wanted him to have oxygen availability. The emergency doc thought he looked a little peaky, however, and later that afternoon his RBC's dropped and he had a blood transfusion--whew! Talk about the little guy being in the right place at the right time! He came home Tuesday afternoon in his beautiful new pink Homecoming blankie! I called his internal oncologist, a wonderful woman by the name of Amy Wiedemann, DVM, ACVIM for those of you in the Chicago area, and she said he had always been anemic (well, not THAT anemic) since she met him nearly four months ago. She told me that she thinks Sammy is constantly amazing her-- because he is still with us here on Earth, sigh! Sammy is now on anti-nausea meds, which is like trying to pill a dragon/crocodile/little baby with about fifteen little clawed feet all paddling at me and anything in my hands away from his leetle mouf, which is clamped shut like a little parakeet's. So I called Animal 911 to see if I could bring him in for pilling and they said yes, we're mobbed. Come on in and we'll do it! So I bundled Sam up with his adorable little Big Sister Lilibet (Little Adoptive Mommy to the triplets) for company because she is so calm and off we went. Fortunately it's only ten or twelve minutes away on quiet streets. And they WERE mobbed! Yikes! I was there yesterday, Saturday, with Sammy's giant brother Charlie because I thought he had a bladder infection but it was just (always after the regular vet has closed) a tiny bit of intestinal trouble--just looked like it was from his bladder. Oh, my Lord! Plus both the washing machine and the DW have given up the ghost so I'm a virtual unwashed, unmade bed (and by this time I don't even notice!) with a sinkful of dishes, off to--finally!--buy W/D and DW for my mom's house on Monday. Next? Try all new windows, a new microwave, an oven that actually works, a new fridge. Yes, it's the joys of taking care of Elderly Mommy! Oh--and she lost more of her sight over the last month or so, too. And constantly watching over the little one. When are the trees going to start raining money, eh? Love to all of you from me 'n' the small, four-footed brood, Tee Don't you know that women are the only works of art? --Donald Henley On Aug 4, 2007, at 12:03 AM, wendy wrote: Taylor, Glad to see you! We missed you! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2007 12:00:22 AM Subject: Re: I need information please Get your precious little girl vaccinated for FeLV. Don't put your boy down. It is hardly necessary. I'm always shocked when vets still feel that way--that is old thinking! Just because he tests positive for FeLV doesn't mean he will get sick right away. My kitty Mamie lived for ten years with FeLV. The absolutely main thing you must think of is no stress for little Basil. Of course,
RE:WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER?
Hi Glenda! I went through the exact same thing. I was getting the posts, yet I couldn't get anything posted for over 2 months. Sometimes when I send a message I get the same response-that the message will go to the moderator and might be posted. None of them ever were. At the beginning I was begging for help and words fail me to how upset I was that I couldn't get help from the group that seemed to know the most. I kept reading and I learned a great deal. I also kept trying to send a message and eventually they finally were posted. My advise is be persistent because this group is a lifeline, especially if you are just learning how to help your feline friend that has this hideous virus. Malone
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Malone, Thank you. Did you see what I did wrong? I sent my letter under the wrong email. I'm getting through now. Sometimes my computer rolls over to the old email address. Maybe that happened to you. It sounds like you got the same message back that I did...Appreciate your help...Glenda --- Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Glenda! I went through the exact same thing. I was getting the posts, yet I couldn't get anything posted for over 2 months. Sometimes when I send a message I get the same response-that the message will go to the moderator and might be posted. None of them ever were. At the beginning I was begging for help and words fail me to how upset I was that I couldn't get help from the group that seemed to know the most. I kept reading and I learned a great deal. I also kept trying to send a message and eventually they finally were posted. My advise is be persistent because this group is a lifeline, especially if you are just learning how to help your feline friend that has this hideous virus. Malone Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: OT: need a little quick advice here...
Hi, There is a good possibiity that these kittens tested false positive for FIV - you need to ask them to do western blot test to be really sure that they are indeed FIV positive - I wish I could tell them in person what a not big deal at all to have FIV positive kitties -- many many many kitties will do live a normal life span - you wont even know that they are FIV positive -- the name scares people more than anything else -- 45% of kitties who tested false positive at my house -- so I do have to ask that they confirm it first with western blot - I have 8 IV positive kitties at my household and they are all so healthy ...five of them are close to 10 years old, and they never have gotten sick or anything - and they are healthier than some of my non fiv positive kitties - please let me know if I can help in anyway;; Also I suggest that you or they join FIVcats2 yahoo group -- lots of people there do mix their positives and negatives at their house, and never heard that their negatives became positives by living together - they share everyrthing, and they groom each other and they do love bites.. nina on the list also mix his FIV boy, Star mix with her negative kitties. Hugs, Hideyo - Original Message - From: glenda Goodmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the worst happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED. FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD AND HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK EARLIER I HAD BOUGHT A CAT TRAP AND HAD BEEN TRYING TO TRAP THE STRANGE CAT...NO LUCK UNTIL LAST NIGHT. WELL, TODAY, THE STRANGE CAT IS AT OUR LOCAL SHELTER. HE IS A PRETTY CAT , BUT THEY SAID HE IS IN WITH THE WILD CATS. HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I WANT TO NAME HIM MARMALADE.HE DESERVES A NAME...
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Taylor, I am glad they are willing to keep him the 3-days, with me testing him Thursday I know they will keep him alive and he may warm up. At my house right now, keeping him would be hard, especially, if he is wild. I work a lot and my kitties are all on schedules , because I now must divide my time up for my six negatives and my one positive kitty. I have seven kitties. I do not believe in mixing negatives and positives, even if everyone is vaccinated... I will see if Marmalade will give me hope that I can get through to him. I know he might be willing to negotiate...I felt that right after he was caught...If he would talk to me in a sweet kitty voice, I know, he will be telling me he is going to be trying to get along with people.I'll visit him tomorrow. He , has been completely quiet with me last night, but the lady at the shelter said, this morning he was howling at her... They had kept him in his trap all night...Therefore, she considered him to be wild. We do have three days...This town does not have any type of feral cat people/ program. I did just start researching FIV online and am soaking up info. I think I first thought of you guys , because the support here is so wonderful...and this list gives people hope... Thank you, Glenda --- Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenda, if the little wild orange guy Marmalade is clean can you--or someone else--take him? Sometimes a cat that seems wild in a shelter is merely scared to death, as for instance he calmed right down when you spoke quietly to him. Bless you for taking him to be tested. You've done a very good deed. If he is positive it does not automatically mean little Feeto (WHAT a superb name! I love it!) will get anything OR he may get something and throw it off. It's much easier for an older cat's immune system to throw off a virus than, say, a kitten given FeLV by its mother--their immune systems are hardly fully developed so it's harder for them to mount an immune response to invaders. By the way, this month's Scientific American has a big article on how cancer cells hijack the human immune system to use it for their ends and new chemotherapy protocols in the works. Extremely informative. Also a great learning tool about the immune system of mammmals like us AND kitties. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:18 PM, glenda Goodman wrote: --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the worst happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED. FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO.
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Hey Glenda, The digest is basically the archives to me; you can read everything there and post there. I think digest also means that you receive all the day's posts in one email. I know my Yahoo HyperT group has that option, but not sure if the FeLV group does since it's not through Yahoo. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:06:47 PM Subject: Re: WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER? Wendy, I get them via email? I do not know what the digest is? Thanks, Glenda --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenda, If we have been receiving the posts, I'm assuming you are a member. Are you posting through the digest are do you read the posts individually via email? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 6:29:34 PM Subject: WHAT DO I GOTTA DO TO BECOME A MEMBER? Hey Guys, I just sent this long email to you guys and found out I'm not a member of this list...I had a rough day the day I found you guys and signed on...thought I was a member? I love you guys! Glenda Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
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Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the worst happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED. FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD AND HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK EARLIER I HAD
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I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2 yahoo group - Susan Hoffman is the moderator, I believe -it's a very active group. - Original Message - From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the base of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son had let him outside...It was evening...I do know better than to let my kitties outside at night...but with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto had been locked up all day. OK, well the
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HIDEYO, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I'M FORWARDING EMAILS TO THESE LADIES. I WILL CALL THEM IN A COUPLE DAYS TO CHECK ON HOW THEY ARE DECIDING TO APPROACH THEIR ISSUES...THANKS, GLENDA --- HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2 yahoo group - Susan Hoffman is the moderator, I believe -it's a very active group. - Original Message - From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats down... Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with today: My pride and
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Good luck -- please keep me posted -- I will be praying for these babies - I just have a feeling though they are false positive.. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... HIDEYO, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I'M FORWARDING EMAILS TO THESE LADIES. I WILL CALL THEM IN A COUPLE DAYS TO CHECK ON HOW THEY ARE DECIDING TO APPROACH THEIR ISSUES...THANKS, GLENDA --- HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2 yahoo group - Susan Hoffman is the moderator, I believe -it's a very active group. - Original Message - From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/%3Chttp://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html%3Chttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/%3Chttp://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will
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THANK YOU WENDY, YES, I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO CHANGE THE FATE OF MARMALADE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME. IF HE TESTS NEG. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. WE ARE IN THE STONE AGE HERE MENTALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO CATS. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN HAWK SPRINGS , WYO. THERE IS A FERAL RESCUE GROUP CONSIDERING WYOMING DOES NOT EVEN HAVE DECENT ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. THEY ARE SO BACKWARDS. I THINK DOG FIGHTING IS STILL LEGAL THERE? SOMEONE MIGHT CHECK THIS OUT IF THEY ARE WONDERING.WHEN I WAS CRUISING petfinder.com I FOUND A SHELTER IN HAWK SPRINGS, WYOMING WITH A REALLY AMAZING WEB-SITE. IT IS VERY ADVANCED...INTERESTING. I WAS ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEB-SITE FOR SHELTERS IN MONTANA. GO TO montanapets.org IT IS BEAUTIFULLY ORGANIZED. IT LETS YOU CLICK ALL THE SHELTERS IN THE STATE. EVERY STATE SHOULD BE SET UP LIKE THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATING and COOPERATION BETWEEN SHELTERS SO EASY ...WELL, ENOUGH OF THE CHATTER. IM OFF TO BED. THANK YOU AGAIN, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR HELP. GLENDA --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might give our group here a visit and be interested in learning, from this very progressive site...I will be talking to them later today and try to convince them not to panic and not opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of any rescue groups that would take these kittens...This is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here, in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue organization they could turn these kittens over to. They do have other cats that share the household. The kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys flood me with some helpful information for these gals, so we can give them some hope for their kittens and make them realize there are options...I'm hoping they might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not I will at least forward them some good information from you guys... These two ladies are in their late twenties or early thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are here in farm country where 90% of the vets still believe, with all their heart, the only real option, is putting positive cats
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Can you let Marmalade be your cat too? Little ferals make the most wonderful friends and he would love to work for you and live with you. It sounds as though he has learned who the boss cat is. Dixie has some cats that report to her. We live on a farm and she is an inside cat, having carefully worked her way into my heart the way Marmalade is trying to work into yours. There are cats, one particular here, that hangs out and helps with the varmint chores outside. Mom has three that hang out at her house and she hasn't had a mouse in over 11 years. A shelter and food go a long way toward taming a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... THANK YOU WENDY, YES, I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO CHANGE THE FATE OF MARMALADE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME. IF HE TESTS NEG. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. WE ARE IN THE STONE AGE HERE MENTALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO CATS. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN HAWK SPRINGS , WYO. THERE IS A FERAL RESCUE GROUP CONSIDERING WYOMING DOES NOT EVEN HAVE DECENT ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. THEY ARE SO BACKWARDS. I THINK DOG FIGHTING IS STILL LEGAL THERE? SOMEONE MIGHT CHECK THIS OUT IF THEY ARE WONDERING.WHEN I WAS CRUISING petfinder.com I FOUND A SHELTER IN HAWK SPRINGS, WYOMING WITH A REALLY AMAZING WEB-SITE. IT IS VERY ADVANCED...INTERESTING. I WAS ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEB-SITE FOR SHELTERS IN MONTANA. GO TO montanapets.org IT IS BEAUTIFULLY ORGANIZED. IT LETS YOU CLICK ALL THE SHELTERS IN THE STATE. EVERY STATE SHOULD BE SET UP LIKE THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATING and COOPERATION BETWEEN SHELTERS SO EASY ...WELL, ENOUGH OF THE CHATTER. IM OFF TO BED. THANK YOU AGAIN, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR HELP. GLENDA --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Glenda, I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group. I don't know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there. Yahoo probably has one. You can search for them on the Internet. I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade. It's such a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down. Such a shame. Is there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact? What about Alley Cat Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/)? Can you see if there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative for everything? Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/ Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? You might as well. I would not have him put down though. That just doesn't seem right. After all, you said you thought he was looking for love and food. It would be horrible if he found pts instead. I think most kitties hiss while in traps b/c they are scared. My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is doing great. She jumps in my lap and purrs now. It's so strange, when only less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in. I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound has already drained. Keep an eye on the wound and make sure it heals up all right. Good luck Glenda. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here... --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Well there are two subjects here I want to get advice and support on. Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I knew of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It seems a couple of her clients came in today and received the bad news that their two kittens had tested positive for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens were sisters and both very bright, educated gals...one being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good minds, I am hoping, they might
