Re: Whitey's Test Results

2007-10-20 Thread wendy
Wow Michael!  The things we do for our kitties!  I am so glad his test was 
negative!  It sounds like you are exstatic!  The only thing I am wondering now 
is if it's too soon to do his vaccines.  Is he feeling really good and not sick 
at all?  I worry about that because the vaccines make some kitties feel bad and 
if Whitey is already under the weather, it might not be a good combo right now. 
 Please keep us posted

:)
Wendy
 
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world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Whitey's Test Results


Whitey's FIP test came in today.  It was NEGATIVE! :)
 
He's one hell of a tough cat, let me tell ya :)
 
He's going in next week for a follow up visit to recheck his labs, get his 
FVRCP/FeLV/Rabies vaccines, Neuter, and dental work, if his labs are all ok.  
That poor fella is gonna have a rough week next week, he just doesn't know it 
yet. lol
 
We almost have his room remodeled.  I'm finishing up the floor today. :)
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread wendy
Hi Michael,

I have vacillated on the litter issue quite a bit in the past year.  We had a 
conversation here a while back about how clumping litters can cause issues in 
cats' stomachs because they lick the litter off their feet.  So I got scared 
and switched to SweatScoop, a wheat based litter.  But it smelled so horrible 
after sitting in a tied plastic bag in our kitty 'dumpster' that it made me 
ill.  Plus the clumps can get really hard and they stick to the side of the 
box, making the box really hard to clean.  It just did not work for me like I 
liked.  I also talked to my vet and he said he has never seen any issues due to 
clumping litter and uses it himself.  So then I went cheaper to Tidy Cats, and 
it is way too dusty!  Plus, I found it did not clump as well as my original 
(the little clumps fell apart in my auto cleaner making it not work as well), 
so I went back to my original, Fresh Step Scoopable for Multiple Cats, and I 
like it.  It's more expensive than
 some, which is bad for me, because we have a kitty with CRF, and she pees 
constantly.  But, I also use an automatic litter box.  The one that runs very 
slowly all day.  It's round and I ordered it off of Petco.com for about $119.  
Best investment I ever made.  I LOVE it!  No more scooping and I empty the 
little reservoir out, which uses plastic grocery bags (which is another great 
selling point), whenever I need to.  It has made cleaning the litter box much 
less of a chore.  I do have to take it completely apart every now and then and 
give it a thorough cleaning, including the moving gears (they get litter stick 
in their grooves).  So if you or someone in your house is good with tinkering 
with things, it shouldn't be a problem.  I also have two other regular boxes in 
the house.  I do not completely change the litter out every week.  Probably 
every 2-3 weeks, if that.  As long as I scoop it regularly, the remaining 
litter is fine for a while.

:)
Wendy
 
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13:23 PM
Subject: Litterboxes


Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.  With that comes an 
exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to 
four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other 
costs.  I'm curious about what you guys use?  Right now I use Tidy Cats 
scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.  I've also been 
changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week).  This 
gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three 
boxes every week.  The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it 
starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :(  
 
So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do 
you use to keep the odor to a minimum?  What are the differences in scoopable 
versus non-scoopable?  I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)

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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread wendy
If you have a Petsmart or Petco sales flyer, or even Dollar General, Wal-Mart 
will match the prices.  Often, sales at other places can be better than 
Wal-Mart, which is GREAT!

:)
Wendy
 
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From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:20:59 PM
Subject: Re: Litterboxes


It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long 
as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no 
coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here.  
 
I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have 
the same number of boxes as cats.  We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day.  I 
don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well.
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Litterboxes


Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.  With that comes an 
exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to 
four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other 
costs.  I'm curious about what you guys use?  Right now I use Tidy Cats 
scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.  I've also been 
changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week).  This 
gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three 
boxes every week.  The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it 
starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :(  
 
So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do 
you use to keep the odor to a minimum?  What are the differences in scoopable 
versus non-scoopable?  I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)

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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread wendy
Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I 
use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty play sacks, etc.  I just a new 
kitty house for Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for it.  It 'cost' about 
600 Paw Points, which I get in about two months (50 Paw Points per box).  So 
this is a fun way for me to get stuff since I'm already using the litter.

:)
Wendy
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread gblane
I use the Paw POints to buy little too... Gloria


Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I 
 use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty playnbsp;sacks, etc.nbsp; I 
 just a new kitty house fornbsp;Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for 
 it.nbsp; Itnbsp;'cost' about 600nbsp;Paw Points, which I get in about two 
 months (50 Paw Points per box).nbsp; So this is a fun way for me to get 
 stuff since I'm already using the litter.
 nbsp;
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread gblane
I use the Paw POints to buy little too... Gloria


Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Another thing that is a bonus for me is that Fresh Step has Paw Points, and I 
 use those to buy kitty houses, books, kitty playnbsp;sacks, etc.nbsp; I 
 just a new kitty house fornbsp;Ensie and paid about $5 for shipping for 
 it.nbsp; Itnbsp;'cost' about 600nbsp;Paw Points, which I get in about two 
 months (50 Paw Points per box).nbsp; So this is a fun way for me to get 
 stuff since I'm already using the litter.
 nbsp;
 
 Wendynbsp;
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Re: Whitey's Test Results

2007-10-20 Thread OfALegend
 
In a message dated 10/20/2007 11:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wow Michael!  The things we do for our kitties!  I am so glad  his test was 
negative!  It sounds like you are exstatic!  The only  thing I am wondering now 
is if it's too soon to do his vaccines.  Is he  feeling really good and not 
sick at all?  I worry about that because  the vaccines make some kitties feel 
bad and if Whitey is already under the  weather, it might not be a good combo 
right now.  Please keep us  posted


I've thought about that, Wendy.  Corky Romano said he was going to  check his 
labs first, and then if everything looks ok, proceed with the other  stuff.  
I'm thinking I may ask him to do the dental work, labs and  neutering, and 
wait off for a couple of weeks on the vaccines to make sure he's  up to it.  I 
know my other girls got terribly ill when they had all three  of their vaccines 
at once. The more I've thought about it, the more I think  that may be the 
best course of action.


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Re: Whitey's Test Results

2007-10-20 Thread Jane Lyons
Michael I agree with Wendy. At his age and condition I would say no  
to vaccs for now.
Here is a link to some articles on vaccinations:  http:// 
www.dogshowjournal.com/AURA/vaccinate.htm


How were you able to post his photo to us?

Jane





On Oct 20, 2007, at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 10/20/2007 11:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow Michael!  The things we do for our kitties!  I am so glad his  
test was negative!  It sounds like you are exstatic!  The only  
thing I am wondering now is if it's too soon to do his vaccines.   
Is he feeling really good and not sick at all?  I worry about that  
because the vaccines make some kitties feel bad and if Whitey is  
already under the weather, it might not be a good combo right now.   
Please keep us posted
I've thought about that, Wendy.  Corky Romano said he was going to  
check his labs first, and then if everything looks ok, proceed with  
the other stuff.  I'm thinking I may ask him to do the dental work,  
labs and neutering, and wait off for a couple of weeks on the  
vaccines to make sure he's up to it.  I know my other girls got  
terribly ill when they had all three of their vaccines at once. The  
more I've thought about it, the more I think that may be the best  
course of action.



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Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations

2007-10-20 Thread laurieskatz
Hello. My vet does only one vaccination at a time and does them separately from 
the spay/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each vaccination and the altering. 
Is there any point in vaccinating him for feline leukemia? I would be hesitant, 
I guess. Just my opinion. I only do the distemper series and rabies now. I am 
considering discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune compromised cats 
(allergies and asthma).  All my cats have had the feline leukemia in earlier 
years. None have been vaccinated for it since 2001.
Laurie
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Whitey's Test Results


  In a message dated 10/20/2007 11:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Wow Michael!  The things we do for our kitties!  I am so glad his test was 
negative!  It sounds like you are exstatic!  The only thing I am wondering now 
is if it's too soon to do his vaccines.  Is he feeling really good and not sick 
at all?  I worry about that because the vaccines make some kitties feel bad and 
if Whitey is already under the weather, it might not be a good combo right now. 
 Please keep us posted
  I've thought about that, Wendy.  Corky Romano said he was going to check his 
labs first, and then if everything looks ok, proceed with the other stuff.  I'm 
thinking I may ask him to do the dental work, labs and neutering, and wait off 
for a couple of weeks on the vaccines to make sure he's up to it.  I know my 
other girls got terribly ill when they had all three of their vaccines at once. 
The more I've thought about it, the more I think that may be the best course of 
action.


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Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations

2007-10-20 Thread OfALegend
 
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:22:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello. My vet does only one vaccination at a time and does them  separately 
from the spay/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each vaccination  and the 
altering. Is there any point in vaccinating him for feline leukemia? I  would 
be 
hesitant, I guess. Just my opinion. I only do the distemper series  and rabies 
now. I am considering discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune  compromised 
cats (allergies and asthma).  All my cats have had the feline  leukemia in 
earlier years. None have been vaccinated for it since 2001.
Laurie



Laurie/Jane:
 
Laurie, I'm vaccinating him for FeLV because I do have two positive cats in  
the house.  Granted, he's isolated in a separate area, I'd still just feel  
better, considering his close proximity to the virus, having him  vaccinated.
 
Jane, I'm not sure what you're asking when you ask how I posted his  
picture??  The pic was taken in the vet's office with a camera phone, which  
Jeff sent 
to me.  I then inserted the pictures in an email and sent  them.  Whitey is 
living in my sunroom, so taking pictures isn't hard.   I'm sorry if I'm missing 
the point of what you're asking? 



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Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations

2007-10-20 Thread Jane Lyons

I did not think it possible to send photos to the list.

On Oct 20, 2007, at 1:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:22:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello. My vet does only one vaccination at a time and does them  
separately from the spay/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each  
vaccination and the altering. Is there any point in vaccinating him  
for feline leukemia? I would be hesitant, I guess. Just my opinion.  
I only do the distemper series and rabies now. I am considering  
discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune compromised cats  
(allergies and asthma).  All my cats have had the feline leukemia  
in earlier years. None have been vaccinated for it since 2001.

Laurie
Laurie/Jane:

Laurie, I'm vaccinating him for FeLV because I do have two positive  
cats in the house.  Granted, he's isolated in a separate area, I'd  
still just feel better, considering his close proximity to the  
virus, having him vaccinated.


Jane, I'm not sure what you're asking when you ask how I posted his  
picture??  The pic was taken in the vet's office with a camera  
phone, which Jeff sent to me.  I then inserted the pictures in an  
email and sent them.  Whitey is living in my sunroom, so taking  
pictures isn't hard.  I'm sorry if I'm missing the point of what  
you're asking?




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Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations

2007-10-20 Thread laurieskatz
I would vaccinate for feleuk in that case
L
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations


  In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:22:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hello. My vet does only one vaccination at a time and does them separately 
from the spay/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each vaccination and the 
altering. Is there any point in vaccinating him for feline leukemia? I would be 
hesitant, I guess. Just my opinion. I only do the distemper series and rabies 
now. I am considering discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune compromised 
cats (allergies and asthma).  All my cats have had the feline leukemia in 
earlier years. None have been vaccinated for it since 2001.
Laurie
  Laurie/Jane:

  Laurie, I'm vaccinating him for FeLV because I do have two positive cats in 
the house.  Granted, he's isolated in a separate area, I'd still just feel 
better, considering his close proximity to the virus, having him vaccinated.

  Jane, I'm not sure what you're asking when you ask how I posted his picture?? 
 The pic was taken in the vet's office with a camera phone, which Jeff sent to 
me.  I then inserted the pictures in an email and sent them.  Whitey is living 
in my sunroom, so taking pictures isn't hard.  I'm sorry if I'm missing the 
point of what you're asking? 





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Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations

2007-10-20 Thread OfALegend
 
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:42:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I did  not think it possible to send photos to the list.


Laurie,
 
I'm not sure.  Possibly because I inserted the pictures in the email  instead 
of attaching them as files?  You might try that.  
 
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread C J
I used to use only clumping clay litter, and was never that happy with it.  
It's terribly dusty, and I found it smelled even when it was fairly fresh.

When my anemic kitty started eating it, I tried some alternatives.

Now, my favorite as far as price and ease of use is:  a rubbermaid container, 
not huge, but with deeper sides than a regular cat box.  I buy a large bag of 
pine or cedar shavings, and a bag of Yesterday's News litter.  I fill the 
bottom of the container with a thick layer of shavings, probably 6 inches, then 
a couple inches of yesterday's news on top.

Then all I do is scoop the poop, and the pee soaks through down into the 
shavings.  It smells great, and I just dump the whole thing when the shavings 
become quite wet.  The layer of Yesterday's News gives them something to 
scratch around in, and keeps the pee smell from coming up from the shavings.

Another litter I like is called Elegant Cat.  It's shaped like Yesterday's 
News, but its made out of dried alfalfa or grass.  This stuff clumps enough 
that I can scoop the pee as well, but I'm not sure how far this litter is 
distributed.  It's made close to where I live.

Cassandra

Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread TatorBunz
Hi all,
I use Wood Pellets for my rescues and Fresh Step for my personal  cats.
When it is time to dispose of the dirty litter that consist of the  pellets I 
take it outside and dump it all over in the back.
I live on 3 acres it is absorbed into the ground and it also  fertilizes the 
area for the wild life passing through.
Wood Pellets are cheap and smell good too. (#40 sacks)
I will hit the feed store and buy their damaged bags at 75% off the regular  
price $4.50
this is a great deal because the bags are barely tore then they seal it  with 
tape.
 
The Fresh Step is thrown into the garbage can.
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread Marylyn
Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A  H baking soda for about $4.00.

 






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  From: Neffie Barker 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes




  This is very creative, haven't heard of that before. Resourceful! I may have 
to try it. Though I wonder how many cats you have, and how long this method 
lasts between changings?
  By the way, hi everyone! This is my first post here. My name is Neffie, and 
I'm from Ohio. I have 5 cats of my own, and am currently fostering 9. So far 4 
of my foster kittens have tested FeLV+, and I suspect that the other 2 from the 
litter will test the same. By a stretch of luck, however, the Mama cat has 
tested negative... which is exceptionally good, as she was pregnant when I 
rescued her. She is due any day now, and I am keeping my fingers crossed for 
the new babies. 
  I don't have any creative suggestions for litterboxes, but this has been 
really fun to read. For my own cats I use standard clumping litter, and scoop 
constantly to make it last, and to keep down on odor. My fosters get cheap clay 
litter, which is scooped and changed several times daily. I use a LOT of baking 
soda. I need to start buying it in bulk quantities. lol. None of this does 
anything for keeping down on garbage.. which I think explains why my trash 
collectors put everyone else's garbage cans neatly back in their driveway, 
while mine are the only ones strewn in the yard. Can really say that I blame 
them... by the end of the week, we have a lot of poop. :)


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  From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 2:53:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes


  I used to use only clumping clay litter, and was never that happy with it.  
It's terribly dusty, and I found it smelled even when it was fairly fresh.

  When my anemic kitty started eating it, I tried some alternatives.

  Now, my favorite as far as price and ease of use is:  a rubbermaid container, 
not huge, but with deeper sides than a regular cat box.  I buy a large bag of 
pine or cedar shavings, and a bag of Yesterday's News litter.  I fill the 
bottom of the container with a thick layer of shavings, probably 6 inches, then 
a couple inches of yesterday's news on top.

  Then all I do is scoop the poop, and the pee soaks through down into the 
shavings.  It smells great, and I just dump the whole thing when the shavings 
become quite wet.  The layer of Yesterday's News gives them something to 
scratch around in, and keeps the pee smell from coming up from the shavings.

  Another litter I like is called Elegant Cat.  It's shaped like Yesterday's 
News, but its made out of dried alfalfa or grass.  This stuff clumps enough 
that I can scoop the pee as well, but I'm not sure how far this litter is 
distributed.  It's made close to where I live.

  Cassandra



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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread OfALegend
 
In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:18:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

None of this does anything for keeping down on garbage.. which I think  
explains why my trash collectors put everyone else's garbage cans neatly back  
in 
their driveway, while mine are the only ones strewn in the yard. Can really  
say that I blame them... by the end of the week, we have a lot of poop.  :)


LOL, Neffie! That cracked me up.  I have exactly the same  problem.  My next 
door neighbor's trash cans are always placed neatly back  where they were, 
upright and lids on.  Mine are hurled back into my yard on  their sides, lids 
and 
cans seperate.
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread OfALegend
 
In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:38:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A  H baking soda for about  $4.00.


You guys just mix the baking soda in the litter?  Do you think that  works as 
well as the litter box deodorizer you buy in cans?  I might  consider using 
that instead of that expensive deodorizer.
 
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Re: Litterboxes

2007-10-20 Thread Marylyn
Before I started with the silica mixture I used it all the time.still do if 
I have a feral cooped up for some reason (spay/sick).  I am not a big fan of 
chemical additions and most deodorizers have some type of anti-bacterial agent 
or a perfuming agent in them.  None of the cats who have lived with me liked 
any kind of fragrance in their litter and some made it very clear that it was 
totally unacceptable.  I have put newspaper under litter to absorb urine and 
make the litter last longer for some less than friendly ferals.  Try it and if 
you don't like it you have lost very little.





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and pity, you will have men who 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes


  In a message dated 10/20/2007 4:38:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A  H baking soda for about $4.00.
  You guys just mix the baking soda in the litter?  Do you think that works as 
well as the litter box deodorizer you buy in cans?  I might consider using that 
instead of that expensive deodorizer.

  ~M





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Re: Autumn - Again

2007-10-20 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Susan,

I am behind on emails. I hope Autumn is holding her own. My vet never was on
board for interferon, I may use that later on. When Junior was first dx w
felv he ran fevers as high as 106.5. I was told they could be deadly. I
could not euthanize my precious baby as was suggested. I went to my former
vet as he has just hired a new vet as was playing catchup from a backlog of
appts. Anyway I did the immuno regulin protocol with Junior and Tiny(angel)
and it got Junior past the crisis. He has has a few infections since then
but he is now with me a year later, I believe the Immuno regulin is what got
him over the hump.

Best of luck. We used the protocol 1 on the home page for feline
leukemia.org

Sally


On 10/17/07, Susan Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Autumn is sick again! Despite all of our precautions which include
 Lysol-ing the bottom of our shoes when we  come in from outside. This has
 been a really bad illness for her. She was lethargic Monday afternoon so I
 checked and found one of her glands in her throat swollen. I immediately
 made a vet appointment for the next morning.  The next morning she had
 diarrhea. I took her in and they did a thorough check. She had the highest
 fever she's had yet, 104.8 ,and every lymph gland in her body is swollen.
 She doesn't want to be touched and she's walking like she's stiff and it
 hurts. She has a fighting spirit though and keeps trying to play.She can
 eat soft food, but the only way I can perk her up is with NutriCal and
 Pedialyte.They put her on the Clavamox again and the vet also wants to add
 in another antibiotic when it comes in. I can tell Autumn is having a
 tough time swallowing. I feel so bad for her. It is becoming apparent to me
 that we might not win this fight for her life. There are no holistic vets
 near us.
 ~Susan A.




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Re: Autumn - Again

2007-10-20 Thread laurieskatz
Hi. I just saw this. These were Isabella's exact symptoms. She had a high 
temp (got all the way to 107) and she was stiff (she acted like something on 
her side hurt and she would move with stiff legs ~ she would roll on her 
back and try push off from the wall to get up) and it looked like she was 
having spasms. She would cry out in pain if you touched her. It was 
horrible. I can't remember the exact term but the vet said her body was 
telling her she had pain even though she didn't. Anyway, we gave antibiotics 
and prednisone and interferon and pain killers and feline transfer factor. 
The antitiotics were in case she had an infection that was causing the high 
temp. She was also very anemic. We did an ultrasound and discovered her 
spleen was enlarged.


And, despite all this, she made it through. We thought it was time to end 
her suffering twice but we didn't and I am so glad. She had a rough first 2 
months and then turned the corner. She has been doing great for 3 months 
now. She is currently on transdermal tramdal (pain) twice a day, transdermal 
pred once a day and gets feline transfer factor on her canned food. She 
takes interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. She has gained weight~ you can no 
longer feel her backbone when you pet her.
She's a miracle kitty who was fortunate to have a wonderful vet who would 
try whatever it took and a foster mom who medicated her and sat with her and 
loved herand who is now her forever mom!

Laurie
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Re: Litterboxes/baking soda

2007-10-20 Thread wendy
You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but I actually use baking soda 
for deodorant.  I've been trying to find a good deodorant that does not contain 
aluminum, which is supposed to be bad for us, and never could.  Anything I did 
find did not work very well.  I was reading online about deodorant because I 
began to notice that only my right armpit was having body odor all of a sudden, 
when I never have had much before, and read that bacteria can build up and 
block your pores.  I read that baking soda is a great, safe alternative, and 
have been using it for about two months now and am very happy with it.  I don't 
have that odor anymore, and I don't even have to use it everyday, believe it or 
not.  I hope I didn't gross anyone out with my TMI, but I think it's a great 
alternative if you're looking for one and good info. to pass on.  So I'm 
assuming it's safe for kitties to mix it in with litter.

:)
Wendy
 
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