Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
Sharyl, Don't give up hope that some are negative. Ours initially tested 4 negative, 1 pos. One of the negs was incubating the virus and tested positive some weeks later, but the other three were still negative 6 months later. Their feral momma tested Elisa negative (didn't do IFA on her) and she is still running around. We vaccinate, and will only retest if a neg. gets sick... Good luck, Beth On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be watching the replies with interest Julie. I have four 6 week old kittens that are probably positive (could only afford to have one tested). I'm giving them a similar mix of supplements - Super B complex, folic acid, Lactoferrin, DMG, CoQ10, L-Lysine, Brewers Yeast and Mega C Plus in their food twice a day. The Mega C Plus may be a snake oil type supplement but I figured I'd try one jar on my positives. Sharyl and Daisy's Babies --- On *Wed, 7/23/08, Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 1:31 PM Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(
Oh, damn. Condolences to all of you, and a gentle journey to Hennessey. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :( I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette
Thanks as always for all you do, James. Kerry On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:10 PM, James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I apologize in advance for making this message longer than I'd first thought... Now that our list appears to be back up and running properly, I think it's time to send out a gentle reminder about netiquette and what this list's mission is. First, remember that this list is for discussions of feline leukemia, related treatments and support for those who are dealing with this dreaded disease. We do, however, allow a bit of off-topic discussion because of the close-knit nature of this group of wonderful people. If you do plan to post something that is off-topic (but, hopefully, somehow related to FeLV and/or list members), remember to put 'OT' (without the quotes) at the beginning of the subject line. Next, remember to properly edit your emails to this list. Lately, folks have been posting messages that contain the complete text of the entire thread to which they are responding. This is causing problems with both the digest mode and email size limits for this list. So, please edit your messages to contain only the relevant text of previous emails. If you need assistance with this, please contact me privately, and I'll try to explain it further. Also, attachments are NOT allowed. That means, do not attach pictures, pdf files, Word document files, Excel files, etc. I will not forward such messages to the list. Lastly, due to the nature of this disease and its effects on our furry friends, there is a potential for passionate debates every now and then. While this may be healthy in a general sense, please try to observe the following rules: No flaming- ie; no personal attacks, hostile language, personal threats, etc., No posting messages that proclaim a, my way or the highway type of rhetoric. We are a diverse group of people with varying opinions on which treatment options work best for our loved ones. Some here believe that certain treatment options are not viable (or are simply hokum) while others swear by a particular treatment. Some here believe in mixing positives and negatives while others say that it shouldn't happen at all. Even if you adamantly disagree with another list member's point of view, please be respectful and sensitive to their right to their opinions. Members are free to share their opinions, but they are not permitted to badger others into submission. It is my hope that this message will serve as a general guideline to posting to FeLVTalk. If I've forgotten something, or if you disagree with the content of this note, please contact me PRIVATELY to discuss it further. Please do not try to create a controversy on the list about all of this. Thank you. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Hennesseylost my Baby Ruben last month...one day we will smile again.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:17:10 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :( I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words. Sherry _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
yeah, probably the most important thing we've learned about FeLV is how much we still don't know--and with colony cats there's mounting evidence that mixed litters might be explained more by mutual grooming by positive aunties than by moms themselves--no longer is transplacental transmission the prime suspect, nor passage through the birtch canal. and if mom was positive from an exposure late enough in her pregnancy, after the placental barrier was well established, well, that could/should/might (remember, we just don't KNOW enough) have protected them, too! that old cliche, where there's life, there's hope--FeLV might well be the best place to apply it.. FeLV isn't a death sentence it's just a 4-letter word. and it is SO good to see you back, beth! i keep trying to grab you on IM but miss.. MC On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharyl, Don't give up hope that some are negative. Ours initially tested 4 negative, 1 pos. One of the negs was incubating the virus and tested positive some weeks later, but the other three were still negative 6 months later. Their feral momma tested Elisa negative (didn't do IFA on her) and she is still running around. We vaccinate, and will only retest if a neg. gets sick... Good luck, Beth On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be watching the replies with interest Julie. I have four 6 week old kittens that are probably positive (could only afford to have one tested). I'm giving them a similar mix of supplements - Super B complex, folic acid, Lactoferrin, DMG, CoQ10, L-Lysine, Brewers Yeast and Mega C Plus in their food twice a day. The Mega C Plus may be a snake oil type supplement but I figured I'd try one jar on my positives. Sharyl and Daisy's Babies --- On *Wed, 7/23/08, Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 1:31 PM Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Check with Alley Cat Advocates or any TNR group in your area. Consider them a feral colony. They will help you. Live trapping is easy. Just remember to be very careful. A feral bit my finger and broke it.and, two surgeries later, it is doing fine. Luckily I had good insurance. And still had possession of the cat so she could be spayed and quarantined for the appropriate amount of time. If your cats really want to be outside, put up a dog kennel so they can go thru the pet door into the kennel. It is great. With farmland, you probably have fox and coyote. They will kill a cat in a heart beat. My Mom has ferals (people dump them in the strip mall behind her property) and she has to be concerned about the hawks. I just got a very small kitten from the pine thicket. She is in the bedroom now, napping. All of this is to say, be careful with your own cats. I did not realize all the dangers when I moved to the farm. I had hoped to have lots of cared for outside cats. That probably won't happen. Help the ferals you can. Mom has had a couple of dozen spayed/neutered and released. Some stay, some go. It is very hard when they go and all you can do is hope they found a good place to live. ACA has a good website with lots of information re caring for ferals. I am very sorry Trixter left this world. I just lost Dixie Louise. She made my life so much better though. I would not have missed one second of the time we had together. Not a nano second. Good luck. On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Sharon Harden wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
I would put them on lysine. I'm sure others will have more suggestions. But younger cats can catch a cold so easily, and lysine helps with that. tonya Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Sharon, there is a Yahoo Feral Cat group that has lots of info on managing feral cat colonies. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:18 PM Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
Thanks for giving me a reason for optimism. I wasn't going to have them tested until I have them spayed. Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 8:31 AM Sharyl, Don't give up hope that some are negative. Ours initially tested 4 negative, 1 pos. One of the negs was incubating the virus and tested positive some weeks later, but the other three were still negative 6 months later. Their feral momma tested Elisa negative (didn't do IFA on her) and she is still running around. We vaccinate, and will only retest if a neg. gets sick... Good luck, Beth On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be watching the replies with interest Julie. I have four 6 week old kittens that are probably positive (could only afford to have one tested). I'm giving them a similar mix of supplements - Super B complex, folic acid, Lactoferrin, DMG, CoQ10, L-Lysine, Brewers Yeast and Mega C Plus in their food twice a day. The Mega C Plus may be a snake oil type supplement but I figured I'd try one jar on my positives. Sharyl and Daisy's Babies --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 1:31 PM Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry. t Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words. Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanx Marylyn, I really appreciate the info. I never tried to stop the ferals from coming into my yards, they usually come to drink from my pool but if I went out there they scrambled. I dont know how many there are, but have seen about 10 to 12 Trixter was a love and am still missing him terribly, I am sry about about Dixie Louise. The other 3 Micki Kitty 17yrs, Cocoa 5yrs and Tink almost 1 who was also bitten tested negative but will have to have them retested in 3 months per vets suggestion. Again Thanx for the info, Regards Sharon --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 9:38 AM Check with Alley Cat Advocates or any TNR group in your area. Consider them a feral colony. They will help you. Live trapping is easy. Just remember to be very careful. A feral bit my finger and broke it.and, two surgeries later, it is doing fine. Luckily I had good insurance. And still had possession of the cat so she could be spayed and quarantined for the appropriate amount of time. If your cats really want to be outside, put up a dog kennel so they can go thru the pet door into the kennel. It is great. With farmland, you probably have fox and coyote. They will kill a cat in a heart beat. My Mom has ferals (people dump them in the strip mall behind her property) and she has to be concerned about the hawks. I just got a very small kitten from the pine thicket. She is in the bedroom now, napping. All of this is to say, be careful with your own cats. I did not realize all the dangers when I moved to the farm. I had hoped to have lots of cared for outside cats. That probably won't happen. Help the ferals you can. Mom has had a couple of dozen spayed/neutered and released. Some stay, some go. It is very hard when they go and all you can do is hope they found a good place to live. ACA has a good website with lots of information re caring for ferals. I am very sorry Trixter left this world. I just lost Dixie Louise. She made my life so much better though. I would not have missed one second of the time we had together. Not a nano second. Good luck. On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Sharon Harden wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanx Sharyl, --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:43 AM Sharon, there is a Yahoo Feral Cat group that has lots of info on managing feral cat colonies. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:18 PM Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi Lynne, I am so sry about your BOOBOO. I only had The Trixster not quite a year and it was devastating to lose him. I had also just rescued a siamese persian, we call her Tink and she was also bitten but has tested Negative so far will test again in 3 mos. No matter what the results she will be with me until whenever. I wont tell you what to do but maybe BOOBOO's son was sent to you for a special reason. The love these special babies bring to my life is immeasurable and I wouldnt have missed 1 min of the time I had with the Trixter. Warm Regards, Sharon --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 3:20 PM Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
It seems to me that this little guy is at your place for a reason. He obviously needs help! Could you just take him to a vet and have his sores, matts, fleas taken care of--and have him tested. He may be negative. If it were me, I'd just have to know! So glad that Snowball is thrivingyou've done a wonderful job with her. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
My husband and I have agreed that if he continues to hang around here for a bit longer my husband is going to put him in the back porch and call this guy we know who investigated the owner after we lost Boo. He has no sympathy for them whatsoever and would take the cat away. If he tests negative for Felv I will adopt him if that is an option. He has been neutered, something they had refused to do with Boo and with their female so maybe the field worker did impress them somewhat. Whether he has been vaccinated is another story. I could not subject Snowy to him if he were positive as much as I would love to have him. He isn't the sweetest of cats, the little buggar was rubbing his face all over mine then bit me on the hand, quite nastily I might add. He isn't as pretty as BooBoo but still is pretty darn cute. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost It seems to me that this little guy is at your place for a reason. He obviously needs help! Could you just take him to a vet and have his sores, matts, fleas taken care of--and have him tested. He may be negative. If it were me, I'd just have to know! So glad that Snowball is thrivingyou've done a wonderful job with her. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi Lynne, Well, regardless of whether you want to take him, you should at least call the field worker because from what you are describing, this kitty has obviously been neglected! Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Oh absolutely Sabrina. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sabrina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Hi Lynne, Well, regardless of whether you want to take him, you should at least call the field worker because from what you are describing, this kitty has obviously been neglected! Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
Hi Julie, Good luck with the retest. I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even though they may actually test negative at a later date. I am thinking four months, but not sure on that. Someone here will know that specifically. I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference? lol); it's an anti-viral. Make sure you buy pure lysine. I have also heard great things about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats. Let us know how it goes. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? Please Don't Breed or Buy While Homeless Pets Die! http://www.anotherchancepetrescue.org/ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Lynne, I don't know what to suggest. I believe in signs. Maybe BooBoo has sent his son to you for help. You could call the humane society field worker. Sounds like any home would be better than what he has now. Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:20 PM Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi Lynne, There is a reason you're seeing this little fellow, and I'm sure it's to help. But give yourself a little time to breath and make the decision on how to handle the situation, especially considering what you went through with BooBoo. It doesn't sound like you need to make the decision right away. Give it a little time and it will come to you. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:20:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Or Boo could have sent his son to help you recover from your grief. I, too, believe in signs. This little one is in your life for a reason. On Jul 24, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Sharyl wrote: Lynne, I don't know what to suggest. I believe in signs. Maybe BooBoo has sent his son to you for help. You could call the humane society field worker. Sounds like any home would be better than what he has now. Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:20 PM Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
I don't know that I agree, it depends what the field worker will actually do, and I'd find that out FIRST, before I did anything. Here they seize and usually kill the animals. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lynne, Well, regardless of whether you want to take him, you should at least call the field worker because from what you are describing, this kitty has obviously been neglected! Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Hi Sharon, When my grandmother was feeding a feral colony in NC (I live in TX), I called Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, a group I donate to, and they called one of their sister groups in NC. The rescue came out, trapped all of them, spayed/neutered, and then released them back to my grandmother. It was wonderful to see. That was about five years ago. My grandma died a year ago in July '07, and I trapped the only remaining feral, named her Ensie (for NC), and brought her back to TX. She let me pet her the night we arrived home (after 5 years of not letting me touch her) and she's been wonderful ever since. I hope you are able to find a good rescue group that will help you out. You might also consider seeing if you're local vet will help you out in case the rescues don't come through. I'm sorry to hear about your sweet Trixster. That must have been very hard. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:18:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette
Thank you James for moderating this list. We appreciate all you do! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:10:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette Hello everyone, I apologize in advance for making this message longer than I'd first thought... Now that our list appears to be back up and running properly, I think it's time to send out a gentle reminder about netiquette and what this list's mission is. First, remember that this list is for discussions of feline leukemia, related treatments and support for those who are dealing with this dreaded disease. We do, however, allow a bit of off-topic discussion because of the close-knit nature of this group of wonderful people. If you do plan to post something that is off-topic (but, hopefully, somehow related to FeLV and/or list members), remember to put 'OT' (without the quotes) at the beginning of the subject line. Next, remember to properly edit your emails to this list. Lately, folks have been posting messages that contain the complete text of the entire thread to which they are responding. This is causing problems with both the digest mode and email size limits for this list. So, please edit your messages to contain only the relevant text of previous emails. If you need assistance with this, please contact me privately, and I'll try to explain it further. Also, attachments are NOT allowed. That means, do not attach pictures, pdf files, Word document files, Excel files, etc. I will not forward such messages to the list. Lastly, due to the nature of this disease and its effects on our furry friends, there is a potential for passionate debates every now and then. While this may be healthy in a general sense, please try to observe the following rules: No flaming- ie; no personal attacks, hostile language, personal threats, etc., No posting messages that proclaim a, my way or the highway type of rhetoric. We are a diverse group of people with varying opinions on which treatment options work best for our loved ones. Some here believe that certain treatment options are not viable (or are simply hokum) while others swear by a particular treatment. Some here believe in mixing positives and negatives while others say that it shouldn't happen at all. Even if you adamantly disagree with another list member's point of view, please be respectful and sensitive to their right to their opinions. Members are free to share their opinions, but they are not permitted to badger others into submission. It is my hope that this message will serve as a general guideline to posting to FeLVTalk. If I've forgotten something, or if you disagree with the content of this note, please contact me PRIVATELY to discuss it further. Please do not try to create a controversy on the list about all of this. Thank you. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
no, wendy, they do NOT carry the mother's antibodies. that is FIV--and the FeLV test doesn't test for antibodies anyway, it tests for antigens. PLEASE check before you send things out to the list. as for lysine, it is specific for the various forms of HERPES viruses, not all those that cause respiratory symptoms. it causes the herpes virus not to replicate, it does not boost the immune system per se, and it has no known effect to date on any other virii. this is not news. as an essential amino acid, it's not going to HURT anything, and some veterinary associations suggest that all cats, symptomatic or not, should be given daily doses of it. but there is no value in claiming that it, or any other treatment, does what it does not. MC On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Julie, Good luck with the retest. I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even though they may actually test negative at a later date. I am thinking four months, but not sure on that. Someone here will know that specifically. I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference? lol); it's an anti-viral. Make sure you buy pure lysine. I have also heard great things about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats. Let us know how it goes. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? Please Don't Breed or Buy While Homeless Pets Die! http://www.anotherchancepetrescue.org/ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now!http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2242/fc/Ioyw6i4u0wir4wtGD52twok4hNDV5nM6yr8dRJyzzvIIdfFeFXno4g/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. tonya Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
Thank you Mary Christine for clearing that up with all of us. I appreciate your expertise. Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:35:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest no, wendy, they do NOT carry the mother's antibodies. that is FIV--and the FeLV test doesn't test for antibodies anyway, it tests for antigens. PLEASE check before you send things out to the list. as for lysine, it is specific for the various forms of HERPES viruses, not all those that cause respiratory symptoms. it causes the herpes virus not to replicate, it does not boost the immune system per se, and it has no known effect to date on any other virii. this is not news. as an essential amino acid, it's not going to HURT anything, and some veterinary associations suggest that all cats, symptomatic or not, should be given daily doses of it. but there is no value in claiming that it, or any other treatment, does what it does not. MC On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Julie, Good luck with the retest. I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even though they may actually test negative at a later date. I am thinking four months, but not sure on that. Someone here will know that specifically. I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference? lol); it's an anti-viral. Make sure you buy pure lysine. I have also heard great things about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats. Let us know how it goes. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? Please Don't Breed or Buy While Homeless Pets Die! http://www.anotherchancepetrescue.org/ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest
I also want to point out, antibodies or not, that retesting should still be done after a certain age, when a positive result at an earlier age might revert to negative after a certain age. That was my point. 13 weeks could be too early, however I'm not sure specifically. If someone knows the earliest testing/retesting dates, could you post them? We might be able to save Julie some money. Thanks, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:35:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest no, wendy, they do NOT carry the mother's antibodies. that is FIV--and the FeLV test doesn't test for antibodies anyway, it tests for antigens. PLEASE check before you send things out to the list. as for lysine, it is specific for the various forms of HERPES viruses, not all those that cause respiratory symptoms. it causes the herpes virus not to replicate, it does not boost the immune system per se, and it has no known effect to date on any other virii. this is not news. as an essential amino acid, it's not going to HURT anything, and some veterinary associations suggest that all cats, symptomatic or not, should be given daily doses of it. but there is no value in claiming that it, or any other treatment, does what it does not. MC On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Julie, Good luck with the retest. I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even though they may actually test negative at a later date. I am thinking four months, but not sure on that. Someone here will know that specifically. I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference? lol); it's an anti-viral. Make sure you buy pure lysine. I have also heard great things about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats. Let us know how it goes. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested positive for FeLV. While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the virus? I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else we should be doing? Please Don't Breed or Buy While Homeless Pets Die! http://www.anotherchancepetrescue.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question
Hi Jane, My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he was fine. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question
Hi wendy and Jane, My sentiments exactly regarding my precoius Junior. Should I ever be faced with this again I feel much better equiped to handle it. Sally On 7/24/08, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jane, My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he was fine. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanx Tonya, Tink is vaccinated now, I had lost my job and so took Trixter and Tink to Spca for spay and neuter. I thought they had all their shots also like was done at my vets for the other 2 but found out the hard way losing Trixter that it was not the case.( My stupity)Micki Kitty17yrs and Cocoa 5 years got their boosters. But still have to have Tink retested. No matter the result she will stay with me. She has really helped me over the loss of Trixter. I have gone to the other sites recommended about ferals but until I am back to work it would be cost prohibative for me. Warm Regards Sharon --- On Thu, 7/24/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 5:45 PM I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. tonya Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi Lynne, It sounds like the poor guy really needs some medical attention. Is he tame? Where do you live? Is there any way you can keep him in a pen or something and just get him tested for Felv? If he is positive he could spread it to all the other cats in the neighborhood. If you consider getting him tested I can help you find a rescue that will take him. If he is not positive than you can keep him if you want. If those people have any other animals I think you should call the Humane Society and have their animals removed. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lynne, There is a reason you're seeing this little fellow, and I'm sure it's to help. But give yourself a little time to breath and make the decision on how to handle the situation, especially considering what you went through with BooBoo. It doesn't sound like you need to make the decision right away. Give it a little time and it will come to you. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:20:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally con fused right now. Lynne---BeginMessage--- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ---End Message--- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
alley cat allies is at www.alleycat.org; there are many low-cost and even free spay/neuter programs for ferals and strays; they're a great resource and have links to many programs. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanx Tonya, Tink is vaccinated now, I had lost my job and so took Trixter and Tink to Spca for spay and neuter. I thought they had all their shots also like was done at my vets for the other 2 but found out the hard way losing Trixter that it was not the case.( My stupity)Micki Kitty17yrs and Cocoa 5 years got their boosters. But still have to have Tink retested. No matter the result she will stay with me. She has really helped me over the loss of Trixter. I have gone to the other sites recommended about ferals but until I am back to work it would be cost prohibative for me. Warm Regards Sharon --- On *Thu, 7/24/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 5:45 PM I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. tonya *Sharon Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thanks
Thanks everyone for your advice especially Phoenix! And Though I am new to this group and don't really know anyone I still want to send a hug to you Sherry and say I am sorry Hannessey had to go over the rainbow bridge. I have a babe who has a heart condition and is not going to be with us long. She was my first cat. The one who started it all and I cringe to think of life without her. But wouldn't have given up having her for anything. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks
I have a baby with a heart condition too...she's the best kitty in the world..are you a member of the Feline Heart Yahoo Group? On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:29 PM, April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for your advice especially Phoenix! And Though I am new to this group and don't really know anyone I still want to send a hug to you Sherry and say I am sorry Hannessey had to go over the rainbow bridge. I have a babe who has a heart condition and is not going to be with us long. She was my first cat. The one who started it all and I cringe to think of life without her. But wouldn't have given up having her for anything. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to han g around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to han g around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally co nfused right now. Lynne __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com---BeginMessage--- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ---End Message--- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Could someone remind me of the age when testing kittens for Felv is. I have some 8 week old kittens, Miss'Tache, Gilbert, Perry, and Eeyore, born to a feral queen, queen is untested. My rescue group wants to test them real soon. I also have former tom cat who has tested positive for Felv via a snap test, he is in a different room from the kittens and from my cats. As of right now he is not showing any symptoms. He is a sweetheart, I think he is a dumped cat left to fend for himself. Thanks Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
i've never gotten a straight answer to this question, tho a recent article i read--remember, i'm in the process of compiling an up-to-date list, so i read things, save the links, and will go back and actually organize them later, so i DON'T have the links right now--said that, because of what the test tests, the antigens instead of antibodies, kittens can be tested at any age. if there's anyone who can explain this to those of us who are doing our best to be scientists when we really aren't, i know that i would appreciate it! On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Could someone remind me of the age when testing kittens for Felv is. I have some 8 week old kittens, Miss'Tache, Gilbert, Perry, and Eeyore, born to a feral queen, queen is untested. My rescue group wants to test them real soon. I also have former tom cat who has tested positive for Felv via a snap test, he is in a different room from the kittens and from my cats. As of right now he is not showing any symptoms. He is a sweetheart, I think he is a dumped cat left to fend for himself. Thanks Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
