Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
I am certainly not diagnosing your cat. In humans a smooth tongue is a symptom of anemia. Anemia is common in FELV cats. Are her gums pale? I had severe anemia and my tongue was very sore as well. Could be why she is not grooming it hurts. Thank-you Sally and all! I don't think she has anemia, because her blood test gave good results: she only has a higher level of cholesterol, but the other things are ok. Today I will go to another vet at 11.00 and I will explain everything to her in order to understand what is happening. Yesterday I had another shock: my other cat (I have 4 cats) who comes from a shelter and was before a stray cat, is positive both with FIV and FeLV. When I took him from the shelter they did not have him tested and did not say anything. He has a chronic rhinitis because he was ill as a kitten, but he copes well, eats, etc... I did not test him when I took him because I was ignorant and I thought that FeLV could be transmitted with prolonged contact or fight and sexual intercourse. Since he was neutered and was a quiet cat, I wasn't worried. Now, with my older cat being diagnosed wiht FeLV, I'm proceeding to test all other cats, and this is the surprise: HE is ill, so the most probable thing is that this cat came to my house and brought FeLV with him, because my older cat has always lived with me and been strong and in excellent health and have never had contacts with other cats because of her very strange behaviour (a sort of Mr. Monk!). The shelter is responsible for this, and now I'm very worried for the other two cats. Even though they are vaccinated against FeLV, I know that the vaccine cannot guarantee 100% coverage (is coverage the right word?) against the virus. If my older cat, who is always by herself and does not even go where the other cats go, has been infected, I cannot imagine what happened with the other two, who are close friends with this poor cat and are always together grooming theirselves and playing. I'm really sad and disillusioned. I learned, however, that cats can live many years even if they're positive, so ... let's hope. Thank you all, I will write the news later. This list is a blessing. Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Stefania My story is very similiar to yousr. I too adopted a shelter cat who as it turned out was positive for FIV/FELV. I think he was the source of infection in my cats and I wound up with 4 cats dying. I am so sorry to hear this. Give them suppotive cats good food and lots of love. I do not blame my shelter as it was animal control and his fate was death there. Animal control picks up unwanted strays here. They do not have funds to test. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Hi, Give them suppotive cats good food and lots of love. Yes, I already use good food of quality and in fact I have this infected cat since 2007 and he's living very well. I hope my older too will regain energy and be well again, even if I know that their destiny will be to develop something serious. I do not blame my shelter as it was animal control and his fate was death My shelter claims to give away only tested cats, but this was not the case and now... they're even blaming me for causing a possible infection to the last kitten I've adopted!!! This is a pain, because it was their fault and now they're attacking me. I'm really sad for this, because I never complained with them about giving care to the cats they gave me in a poor health condition. I have 4 cats and two of them are mine: the older one (Trudi) comes from a friend of mine who had a queen with kitten, the other one (Ginny) was found by me on the road, and kept. These two are healthy and have never been to the vet, except for the vaccination. The other two (Miro and Babette) come from the same shelter and both developed rhinitis and had problems with their eyes etc. In these two months, since I took the 4th cat, I've been almost 20 times to the vet!!! And it's going on... But I think we will survive, eventually! :-) Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Stef Just info for you--I have 4 cats who basically grew up together. They're about a year or so apart in age and all came in as kittens and all tested neg for FELV as each came into my home. In 2/04, my Tucson who was then 4, started feeling poorly, wouldn't eat (which for her is a BIG thing!). I had a very good vet at the time who on a hunch tested her for FELV and she showed positive on the Elissa and more ISA I had the other 3 immediately tested and they showed neg then and are still neg. I switched vets to one who had more experience with FELV and both vets said that it is very possible that test on a very young kitten can show neg though they have the virus and that you really can't be 100% sure until a kitten is 6mos-1 year. Further literature I read basically concurs with that. I vaccinated my neg cats and everyone has been fine. At around the same time, I brought in a stray, Romeo (who was around 4 or 5), who I had been feeding outside for a couple of years. I had seen him every single day and he was never sick! I had him tested and lo and behold, he was FELV+. I had made the decision (actually, there wasn't ever really a decision-LOL) to mix my 4 cats so mixing in Romeo was a no-brainer for me. My other 4 had all eaten out of the same dishes, used the same litter boxes, groomed each other, gave each other the occasionally swipe with their claws, shared toys, and on and on--and nobody came down w. FELV even though they had never been vaccinated. Tucson has had occasional episodes of very low white blood count and my vet has treated her w. immune-regulin and she's rebounded each time. She's a hefty gal (18 lbs) and I feed all of them Wellness canned food and just a bit of dry food for their teeth. Sadly, a couple of months ago, Romeo developed lymphoma and within 2 weeks, he became so ill and suffering so much that I had to put him down. Up until that last week, though, he was fine, fat, and just a joy. Though I miss him terribly, I keep reminding myself that he wouldn't have had those 4 good years if he had stayed outside. Bottom line--I think there are a whole lot more kitties out there who are positive that nobody ever knows about. You'll hear all variations of my story on this board and come to see that though kittens are particularly susceptible to the life-threatening infections that FELV allows to fester, many of those kittens go on to long perfectly normal lives. Unfortunately, most of the statistics on FELV are based on kittens who succumb--they never reflect the adult cats who have never been diagnosed or tested. Chris ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi, Give them suppotive cats good food and lots of love. Yes, I already use good food of quality and in fact I have this infected cat since 2007 and he's living very well. I hope my older too will regain energy and be well again, even if I know that their destiny will be to develop something serious. I do not blame my shelter as it was animal control and his fate was death My shelter claims to give away only tested cats, but this was not the case and now... they're even blaming me for causing a possible infection to the last kitten I've adopted!!! This is a pain, because it was their fault and now they're attacking me. I'm really sad for this, because I never complained with them about giving care to the cats they gave me in a poor health condition. I have 4 cats and two of them are mine: the older one (Trudi) comes from a friend of mine who had a queen with kitten, the other one (Ginny) was found by me on the road, and kept. These two are healthy and have never been to the vet, except for the vaccination. The other two (Miro and Babette) come from the same shelter and both developed rhinitis and had problems with their eyes etc. In these two months, since I took the 4th cat, I've been almost 20 times to the vet!!! And it's going on... But I think we will survive, eventually! :-) Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Stefania, I should never answer in a hurry. I was headed out the door. I hope you could understand what I was saying. I meant to say supportive care not cats...lol Although supportive cats would be ok. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Stefania My story is very similiar to yousr. I too adopted a shelter cat who as it turned out was positive for FIV/FELV. I think he was the source of infection in my cats and I wound up with 4 cats dying. I am so sorry to hear this. Give them suppotive cats good food and lots of love. I do not blame my shelter as it was animal control and his fate was death there. Animal control picks up unwanted strays here. They do not have funds to test. Sally -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
I don't mean to intrude here, but what type of gel did you get for the stomatitis?Debbie (COL)The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:49 + From: pebble...@yahoo.it To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Stef -- Sorry you're having all this trouble and worry right now. About FIV, you are right and your vet is wrong. It is VERY hard to transmit other than through fighting (deep bites) and sex. It's much less contagious than FeLV, and even FeLV appears to be not as contagious as originally thought. I'm on a feral cat list where there has been some discussion of FeLV, and people have said they've seen cat colonies where they know that some cats are FeLV+, and if it's as transmissible as we're supposed to believe, the whole colonies should have gotten sick and died, and they just haven't. The trouble is that for some reason some vets don't keep up with new research as much as they should, and keep giving wrong information, and more importantly, don't know the right things to do to keep the cats as healthy as possible or to treat them properly when they do get sick. Your cats are very cute! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
One thing on transmission== a vet once told me... Both viruses have been around since the time of the dinosaurs==if they were that easily transmitted, we would have no cats left! I think that the trouble is that vets generally see kittens who succumb because they are young and can't fight off infection. I doubt that most vets test an older cat who shows signs of one of the FELV related conditions--cancer, gum infection, etc. And then there are the older cats who don't ever go to a vet and just live their regular lives. I've not found any random studies that test a large population of domestic and ferals and then just watch over a period of time. Chris ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Stef -- Sorry you're having all this trouble and worry right now. About FIV, you are right and your vet is wrong. It is VERY hard to transmit other than through fighting (deep bites) and sex. It's much less contagious than FeLV, and even FeLV appears to be not as contagious as originally thought. I'm on a feral cat list where there has been some discussion of FeLV, and people have said they've seen cat colonies where they know that some cats are FeLV+, and if it's as transmissible as we're supposed to believe, the whole colonies should have gotten sick and died, and they just haven't. The trouble is that for some reason some vets don't keep up with new research as much as they should, and keep giving wrong information, and more importantly, don't know the right things to do to keep the cats as healthy as possible or to treat them properly when they do get sick. Your cats are very cute! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7
Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
Please, can anyone help me? My cat has dermatitis and she keeps on taking away her hair. I don't know what to think! My vet says we have to wait but the cat gets worse. Stefania ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
Does the vet tell you what he thinks caused the dermatitis? Is it only in some patches or spread throughout? Does she scratch herself or does she lick herself bald? Chris ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability Please, can anyone help me? My cat has dermatitis and she keeps on taking away her hair. I don't know what to think! My vet says we have to wait but the cat gets worse. Stefania ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats
I have had two FelV pos. kittens neutered at 6 months with no problems, but of course a spay is a much more invasive proceedure. I will be interested in knowing what others on the list have done. Lorrie On 02-10, Marci Greer wrote: Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7
My Mandy, now 7, was spayed four years ago--no problem at all as far as stress affecting her leukemia-positive status. She is still doing great today. - Original Message - From: Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7 Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT: Terrie's Mom Obituary
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7
If she were my kitty, I would have her spayed. Yes, there is some stress involved in having it done, but there is also stress every time she goes into heat. There are other advantages to having her spayed, like a much reduced chance of mammary cancer, etc. I have had many positive kitties spayed with no problems. We can never know for sure but the odds are in kitty's favor. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marci Greer Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7 Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7
You may want to have someone do it who uses a laserless bleeding and easier recovery. On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, gary wrote: If she were my kitty, I would have her spayed. Yes, there is some stress involved in having it done, but there is also stress every time she goes into heat. There are other advantages to having her spayed, like a much reduced chance of mammary cancer, etc. I have had many positive kitties spayed with no problems. We can never know for sure but the odds are in kitty's favor. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marci Greer Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7 Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats
My vet said that most FELV cats do fine after spaying. There is some risk but there is some risk for all spays. She said they are more likely to have problems from not being spayed than from the spay itself. Tanya --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 5:08 PM I have had two FelV pos. kittens neutered at 6 months with no problems, but of course a spay is a much more invasive proceedure. I will be interested in knowing what others on the list have done. Lorrie On 02-10, Marci Greer wrote: Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats
I've had no problem with it - Gloria On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Lorrie wrote: I have had two FelV pos. kittens neutered at 6 months with no problems, but of course a spay is a much more invasive proceedure. I will be interested in knowing what others on the list have done. Lorrie On 02-10, Marci Greer wrote: Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats
My 2 positives, Tucson and Romeo, were s/n before I even knew they were positive (ignorance is bliss-LOL) and there was absolutely no problem. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats I've had no problem with it - Gloria On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Lorrie wrote: I have had two FelV pos. kittens neutered at 6 months with no problems, but of course a spay is a much more invasive proceedure. I will be interested in knowing what others on the list have done. Lorrie On 02-10, Marci Greer wrote: Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Terrie's Mom Obituary
What a wonderful lady your mom was. There's a special place in heaven for her. Lynne - Original Message - From: tatorb...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Terrie's Mom Obituary Here is my Mom's obituary as promised for those of you that cared and ask. _http://www.legacy.com/HeraldNet/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonId=123980 404_ (http://www.legacy.com/HeraldNet/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonId=123980404) Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3840 (20090210) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
