[Felvtalk] Vaccines
I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them. However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg. but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Jonathan to the Bridge list
Anne, I'm so sorry to hear about Jonathan. Thank you for being his caregiver for so many years. Now he is free of illnesses and happy at the bridge. He has been met by many that have gone there before him. I remember you talking about him occasionally on the list. As you know my ears perk up when I hear about anything related to the Siamese breeds. You are in my thoughts and prayers! In a message dated 3/28/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, anne.ann...@gmail.com writes: Jonathan died on March 3, 2009 of undetermined causes. He had recurrent colitis but otherwise, his blood work and physicals were fine. Jonathan was 17. He was not FELV positive. I adopted him at age 9 from a cat shelter. He was a polite, beautiful easygoing Ragdoll with Siamese type markings. He took years to warm to me as he was so broken hearted to lose his family. He was a lovely friend and companion in his last years. Thank you, Anne in Michigan and FELV angels Nala, Jimi Too Cool, Buggs and Simms among other beloveds who are living and passed on TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan/Startup, WA. _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Jonathan to the Bridge list
Anne, I am so sorry to hear about Johathan!! I too am from Michigan! I am currently living in California. Are you on face book? If so, look for Christy Stetler. Thanks! :o) From: anne.ann...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:02 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Jonathan to the Bridge list Jonathan died on March 3, 2009 of undetermined causes. He had recurrent colitis but otherwise, his blood work and physicals were fine. Jonathan was 17. He was not FELV positive. I adopted him at age 9 from a cat shelter. He was a polite, beautiful easygoing Ragdoll with Siamese type markings. He took years to warm to me as he was so broken hearted to lose his family. He was a lovely friend and companion in his last years. Thank you, Anne in Michigan and FELV angels Nala, Jimi Too Cool, Buggs and Simms among other beloveds who are living and passed on ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them. However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg. but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Hi Lorrie This is probably a controversial opinion, but if they are indoor cats I would not vaccinate them. I read the book 'Vaccinations for Dogs and Cats' by C Diodoti a few years ago (she is vaccine researcher) and I have become very cautious and conservative about vaccinations. If you want to understand the relationship between many veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies and why overvaccination has become a major health problem, I would recommend the book. IMHO Jane On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Lorrie wrote: Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
There is no problem with giving a FeLV positive cat the FeLV vaccine. Some would say it was just a waste of money (for the positive cat) but there are people on the FeLV lists that have given their positives cats the vaccine every year and some claim to have some very old cats with FeLV. I believe one had had a cat that lived to be 22. I don't think there is any hard evidence as to whether it helps or not, but it won't hurt them. I'm sure you will hear from others who do it. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them. However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg. but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Lorrie, I am certainly no expert here, however, having dealt with only one FelV cat and losing him after a short time, I personally would not vacccinate a positive cat. I still think the stress I put our boy through contributed to his quick demise. Recently I had our negative rescue cat vaccinated for FelV, rabies etc and she was very ill for several days. As she is a house cat who is allowed supervised back yard outings, I worried about the odd chance of a diseased cat coming in and infecting her. I won't do it again however. Our newest rescued cat, a feral I'm convinced, adopted from the HS is still afraid of me and I could never hold her long enough to get her into the carrier to get her to the vet to be boostered. Since she has no interest in the outdoors whatsoever now, I doubt I'll even bother. Lynne - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3976 (20090330) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
I'm one of the ones with old FELV cats. I have two 12-13 yr old cats, that I got from someone else, in Oklahoma actually. Her vet believed in vaccinating FELV cats with the FELV vaccine. I just spoke with one of my vets about that, as I took in a new little FELV kitten. This vet suggested there's no consensus about vaccinations, and there are a couple of schools of thought - one being yes vaccinate them, the other being no don't. As I recall, she suggested also that it's probably ok to do the vaccination, but a small no. of cats may have a reaction. Never heard of that. Be interesting to research this topic. But the 2 cats I have are the only ones I have, that have lived beyond 3-4 yrs old. Gloria On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:51 PM, gary wrote: There is no problem with giving a FeLV positive cat the FeLV vaccine. Some would say it was just a waste of money (for the positive cat) but there are people on the FeLV lists that have given their positives cats the vaccine every year and some claim to have some very old cats with FeLV. I believe one had had a cat that lived to be 22. I don't think there is any hard evidence as to whether it helps or not, but it won't hurt them. I'm sure you will hear from others who do it. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them. However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg. but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
Vaccinations scare me. Not vaccinating scares me. It is a crapshoot. You have two cats that were vaccinated against FELV and were FELV+ and have lived long lives. We had an older cat who we had no vet records on so had to give the Rabies vaccination on, by law. We also gave him a distemper vaccination. He developed AIHA (AutoImmune Hemolytic Anemia) and died after a brave struggle. Could have been caused by either or both vaccinations. On 3/30/09, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: I'm one of the ones with old FELV cats. I have two 12-13 yr old cats, that I got from someone else, in Oklahoma actually. Her vet believed in vaccinating FELV cats with the FELV vaccine. I just spoke with one of my vets about that, as I took in a new little FELV kitten. This vet suggested there's no consensus about vaccinations, and there are a couple of schools of thought - one being yes vaccinate them, the other being no don't. As I recall, she suggested also that it's probably ok to do the vaccination, but a small no. of cats may have a reaction. Never heard of that. Be interesting to research this topic. But the 2 cats I have are the only ones I have, that have lived beyond 3-4 yrs old. Gloria On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:51 PM, gary wrote: There is no problem with giving a FeLV positive cat the FeLV vaccine. Some would say it was just a waste of money (for the positive cat) but there are people on the FeLV lists that have given their positives cats the vaccine every year and some claim to have some very old cats with FeLV. I believe one had had a cat that lived to be 22. I don't think there is any hard evidence as to whether it helps or not, but it won't hurt them. I'm sure you will hear from others who do it. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them. However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg. but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help with medical expenses for two very special kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
I will not advocate either side but I will tell you that even inside cats stand a chance of being exposed. I was on the way in to my holistic vet's with Copper and Thomas when their (brand new and very oversized) carrier collapsed. Both kittens took off. The vet and I were able to recover both of the boys in a relatively short period of time (it felt like forever since her office is surrounded by very busy streets). All of God's Angels were watching after the boys and they came into contact with no cars or cats. I had batted around not having them microchipped but did just in case and am now considering the FeLV vaccine just in case. On Mar 30, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Lynne wrote: Lorrie, I am certainly no expert here, however, having dealt with only one FelV cat and losing him after a short time, I personally would not vacccinate a positive cat. I still think the stress I put our boy through contributed to his quick demise. Recently I had our negative rescue cat vaccinated for FelV, rabies etc and she was very ill for several days. As she is a house cat who is allowed supervised back yard outings, I worried about the odd chance of a diseased cat coming in and infecting her. I won't do it again however. Our newest rescued cat, a feral I'm convinced, adopted from the HS is still afraid of me and I could never hold her long enough to get her into the carrier to get her to the vet to be boostered. Since she has no interest in the outdoors whatsoever now, I doubt I'll even bother. Lynne - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3976 (20090330) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
Hi Gloria, I have been considering giving all my positives the vaccine, just on the outside chance it might actually help. I'll give the shots myself, so the expense won't be that much. Unfortunately, none of us has a large enough sample to make for a real research project with statistically significant results. Also, I don't think I could withhold from some and give to others, I would feel too guilty. Many of us who care for FeLV cats give them various things to boost their immune system, but because there has been no real research, we are mostly just guessing. Best Friends gives their FeLV cats .5ml of Immuno Regulin sub-q every month. I asked their vet why and you will never guess what he said. They do it because that was what was being done when he got there. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I'm one of the ones with old FELV cats. I have two 12-13 yr old cats, that I got from someone else, in Oklahoma actually. Her vet believed in vaccinating FELV cats with the FELV vaccine. I just spoke with one of my vets about that, as I took in a new little FELV kitten. This vet suggested there's no consensus about vaccinations, and there are a couple of schools of thought - one being yes vaccinate them, the other being no don't. As I recall, she suggested also that it's probably ok to do the vaccination, but a small no. of cats may have a reaction. Never heard of that. Be interesting to research this topic. But the 2 cats I have are the only ones I have, that have lived beyond 3-4 yrs old. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
how wonderful to see this discussion! and even tho none of us individually may have enough cats to be statistically significant (tho one of us, wink wink, may get there soon, gary), as a GROUP we might and even if we fall below the magic number of 30, if we have actual, real-time (as opposed to historical) data with dates of innoculation, health and age info etc., collected as we go along, we stand a whole lot greater chance of having the info looked at by the folks doing research. if we can show them a pattern, in a direction that they most probably are NOT looking, it could truly lead somewhere wonderful as for the safety of vaxing positives, the only thing i've ever heard negative was that it was a waste of money and vaccine to give it to known positives! MC On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: Hi Gloria, I have been considering giving all my positives the vaccine, just on the outside chance it might actually help. I'll give the shots myself, so the expense won't be that much. Unfortunately, none of us has a large enough sample to make for a real research project with statistically significant results. Also, I don't think I could withhold from some and give to others, I would feel too guilty. Many of us who care for FeLV cats give them various things to boost their immune system, but because there has been no real research, we are mostly just guessing. Best Friends gives their FeLV cats .5ml of Immuno Regulin sub-q every month. I asked their vet why and you will never guess what he said. They do it because that was what was being done when he got there. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I'm one of the ones with old FELV cats. I have two 12-13 yr old cats, that I got from someone else, in Oklahoma actually. Her vet believed in vaccinating FELV cats with the FELV vaccine. I just spoke with one of my vets about that, as I took in a new little FELV kitten. This vet suggested there's no consensus about vaccinations, and there are a couple of schools of thought - one being yes vaccinate them, the other being no don't. As I recall, she suggested also that it's probably ok to do the vaccination, but a small no. of cats may have a reaction. Never heard of that. Be interesting to research this topic. But the 2 cats I have are the only ones I have, that have lived beyond 3-4 yrs old. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
My two positives were vaccinated for years (I was ignorant and so, apparently, was our vet). Squeaky always became very sick for 3 days after the vaccination. It didn't faze Stripes but he was always kind of sick on and off. That was the ONLY time Squeaky was ever sick. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines Hi Gloria, I have been considering giving all my positives the vaccine, just on the outside chance it might actually help. I'll give the shots myself, so the expense won't be that much. Unfortunately, none of us has a large enough sample to make for a real research project with statistically significant results. Also, I don't think I could withhold from some and give to others, I would feel too guilty. Many of us who care for FeLV cats give them various things to boost their immune system, but because there has been no real research, we are mostly just guessing. Best Friends gives their FeLV cats .5ml of Immuno Regulin sub-q every month. I asked their vet why and you will never guess what he said. They do it because that was what was being done when he got there. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I'm one of the ones with old FELV cats. I have two 12-13 yr old cats, that I got from someone else, in Oklahoma actually. Her vet believed in vaccinating FELV cats with the FELV vaccine. I just spoke with one of my vets about that, as I took in a new little FELV kitten. This vet suggested there's no consensus about vaccinations, and there are a couple of schools of thought - one being yes vaccinate them, the other being no don't. As I recall, she suggested also that it's probably ok to do the vaccination, but a small no. of cats may have a reaction. Never heard of that. Be interesting to research this topic. But the 2 cats I have are the only ones I have, that have lived beyond 3-4 yrs old. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots for Felv/Re Testing for Non Felv Cat
PLEASE go to www.adopt.bemikitties.com and put your vet's info into the database of progressive vets! hopefully, someday, there'll be enough listed so that whenever anyone gets the diagnosis, they can just go there and find someone nearby who will work WITH them, and FOR the kitties. MC On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: from some of these comments, i feel extremely fortunate to have my vet. when we found out about Annie, he explained the 2 choices i had and said it was up to me. he also told me that felv cats can live a long and normal life. BIG PLUS, when i found this site and began showing him some of the posts, he got on and now is reading all the posts himself. he said that actually, the web is a great teaching source and appreciates the input from everyone. i know that i have learned a lot . this disease is not the terror i had thought it to be. yes, it can hurt our babies and us when they pass over. but sometimes they live long happy lives and our lives are enriched for having known them. dorlis MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: at the rate that accurate information about the virus has spread to the veterinary community, and from there down to shelters and rescues, it'd be YEARS before news of a cure would ever reach them. it's incredibly discouraging. i don't know if petsmart left in the comments from the attendees at the webinar earlier this year re: FIV and FeLVs in shelter and rescues, but it was incredibly depressing to me, to hear folks NOT listening to what the vet had to say, nor to the few of us who were actually acquainted with the literature. (in fact, i spoke with a rescuer who attended another of their webinars more recently, and she said that that vet was advocating vaccinating all cats against FIV.) yes, it's money and business, but more than that, it's laziness--i've got my degree, and since these two virii are very easily treated with the night-night needle, i don't need to ever read another word about them. theoretically, it's malpractice for vets NOT to be up-to-date on current best practice--but even the reports i hear on the vets who seem not to even have HEARD about new vaccination protocols, no less implemented them, well (yearly vaccines, now AGAINST medical advice, a sure-fire money-maker!) never mind, i get more than a LITTLE upset. MC On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Maria Ianiro mian...@gmail.com wrote: It makes me a little upset that research for Felv+ cats has been so wishy washy. I realize it probably all comes down to money and business, but I was also thinking, this disease is sadly a way for shelters to try to control over population of cats. I think its pretty automatic to put felv+ cats to sleep at shelters. I wonder what the shelters would do if there was a cure for this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Jonathan to the Bridge list
Thanks, Terrie, so much, as always. I love what you do for the Siamese kitties. They have always caught my heart and Jonathan was no exception from the very start. :-) Christy, thank you for your kind note. I live in a little rural town northeast of Flint. Where are you? I will keep this email as new so I can remember to check your name next time I go to Facebook. I rarely go there as I am kind of a dummy when it comes to Facebook! Anne in Michigan and FELV angels Nala, Jimi Too Cool, Buggs and Simms among other beloveds who are living and passed on ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Jonathan to the Bridge list
Oh Anne, how sweet - he sounds like such a lovely, lucky kitty. I'm sorry for your loss. Gloria On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Anne wrote: Jonathan died on March 3, 2009 of undetermined causes. He had recurrent colitis but otherwise, his blood work and physicals were fine. Jonathan was 17. He was not FELV positive. I adopted him at age 9 from a cat shelter. He was a polite, beautiful easygoing Ragdoll with Siamese type markings. He took years to warm to me as he was so broken hearted to lose his family. He was a lovely friend and companion in his last years. Thank you, Anne in Michigan and FELV angels Nala, Jimi Too Cool, Buggs and Simms among other beloveds who are living and passed on ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
