[Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Nortina Bell
Hello, 

I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our 
new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. 

We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter 
was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. 
Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all 
who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, 
we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even 
though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I 
saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat 
kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided 
to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in 
the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). 

We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the 
bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he 
would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had 
an issue with worms. 

While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found 
that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day 
didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit 
that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though 
because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is 
perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can 
progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. 

We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to 
that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it 
is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than 
the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. 

Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his 
vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based 
on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth 
giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second 
booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience 
like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? 

I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am 
not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. 

Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Nortina, First of all welcome to the group.  There are people here with a great 
deal of knowledge about this horrible disease.
I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia.  The negative cats are 
all vaccinated.  My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the youngest, 
Tweezer, will be three.  Both are asymptomatic.  I lost a positive about 6 
months ago to anemia. He was almost two.  Buzzy was able to live a few months 
longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this list. I hope 
you will find it to be as helpful as I have.  FeLV+ can go a long time without 
symptoms and some live very long lives.  In the FeLV/FIV room where I volunteer 
there is one cat who is 22!
Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance.
Sue

 Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca wrote: 
 Hello, 
 
 I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that 
 our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. 
 
 We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal 
 shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now 
 either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he 
 shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in 
 mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now 
 and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this 
 other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. 
 This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway 
 that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able 
 to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous 
 with very bad results). 
 
 We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the 
 bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he 
 would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we 
 had an issue with worms. 
 
 While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we 
 found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to 
 that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have 
 to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing 
 to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful 
 cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about 
 how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would 
 keep him. 
 
 We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke 
 to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took 
 in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less 
 hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. 
 
 Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his 
 vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, 
 based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be 
 worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his 
 second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an 
 experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? 
 
 I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am 
 not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. 
 
 Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks

2009-04-27 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I, too, live in SC, and have found that Revolution works wonders on my
cats for keeping things under control... Unfortunately it doesn't kill
tapeworms, but it does kill roundworms and hookworms. I am lucky enough
to have a vet that will sell me the Droncit without seeing the animals.

Beverly

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From: sheila...@aol.com [mailto:sheila...@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks

 
I have an outbreak of fleas on my eight felv+ cats brought home by my
two 
dogs who like to run away every chance they get. I need to worm all my  
kitties .Can someone recommend worm med's that I can buy without a
prescription. 
 I can't afford to take all of them to a vet at one time. I also have to

buy flea  med's I'm thinking Frontline. I've never had much of a problem
with 
parasites  until this spring. Please help. 
 
 Sheila in SC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Laurieskatz
I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious.
Laurie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro

Hello, 

I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that
our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. 

We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal
shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now
either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he
shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in
mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every
now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate
this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to
me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving
anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually
be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice
previous with very bad results). 

We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the
bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he
would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we
had an issue with worms. 

While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we
found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to
that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I
have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really
willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and
wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some
questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I
decided that we would keep him. 

We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke
to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took
in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less
hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. 

Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his
vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that,
based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be
worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his
second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an
experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? 

I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I
am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. 

Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Laurieskatz
My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick
on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on
earth.
Laurie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue  Frank Koren
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Nortina Bell
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

Nortina, First of all welcome to the group.  There are people here with a
great deal of knowledge about this horrible disease.
I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia.  The negative cats
are all vaccinated.  My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the
youngest, Tweezer, will be three.  Both are asymptomatic.  I lost a positive
about 6 months ago to anemia. He was almost two.  Buzzy was able to live a
few months longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this
list. I hope you will find it to be as helpful as I have.  FeLV+ can go a
long time without symptoms and some live very long lives.  In the FeLV/FIV
room where I volunteer there is one cat who is 22!
Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance.
Sue



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Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-27 Thread Karen Griffith

Laurie,

Just give me a call at 740-992-5782.

Karen
- Original Message - 
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...



Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form.
Should I be used the Transfer Factor Nano Plus instead? She is not FeLV+ 
but

is not a good eater.
Thanks,
Laurie (ps I can call if you would rather...)

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

Judy,

I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems.  That worried
me.  In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in
addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You 
can


do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a
distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale.  I was using it on
multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense 
to

pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale.  (By the way, I
and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a
push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.)

I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver
and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of
which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs
and heart).

I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares 
ready


to foal.  I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano
Factor/day.  Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and 
heart.
My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 
.


I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook
them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a
bit pink.  Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat 
and


feed the livers as best you can.  (Whole, chopped, mashed.)  Maybe need to
mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a 
closed
container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing.  The boiled 
water


will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy
Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content.  Put
this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to 
help


the anemia and fluid replenishment.  Feed the liver as best you can,  (In
addition to the Nutrical)  and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers 
(previous

email).

If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send
recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the 
best


immune support.  Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is
what your cat wants to eat is great.  Food in any form is good!  What ever
the cat will eat is great.  Don't worry about this diet or that.  (And 
that
is from an Animal Nutritionist.)  Just get the cat to eat something it 
will

eat.

Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend.

Karen Griffith  740-992-5782

P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts 
of

research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors'
effectiveness.  (Click on all of the links from overseas.)

As a nurse you will appreciate the results.

http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html





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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.

2009-04-27 Thread Karen Griffith

Judy,

Here is another site with more information on the immune system and Transfer 
Factor.  If you decide to try it you can order it wholesale with the ID 
number I gave you and the toll free number.  I like to talk to a real person 
when I order something, so I use the toll fee number.


888-454-3374  ID# 6109801

The link to a site I have is http://powerbod.com/2/karengriffith  It has a 
lot of info.


Hope this helps.

Karen  740-992-5782  Feel free to call me if you have any questions.

- Original Message - 
From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com

To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.



Karen,

Your email is so appreciated, and I think that you are right about the 
cardiac/ pleural effusion. I was going to listen to him as soon as I got 
back from a run, but he's hidden where I can't reach him, until the next 
feeding time. I will go to the site you recommended on the Transfer 
Facton, and I will do the chicken liver thing when I can get to town. None 
available out here .


I haven't started clysis, due to the fact that I don't have the solutions 
or the needles. I did get Pedialyte and used that to dilute the cat food 
slurry as of yesterday. He seems well hydrated, not jaundiced and really 
LOOKS good. It's surprising, and heartening. But I am still on the verge 
of tears all the time.


I have written an email to my vet, and will have her see Wilson on her 
mobile rounds Wednesday, at least, maybe sooner.


As I told the vet, if Wilson were a patient of mine I would at least have 
O2 on him and get a chest xray.


Judy and Wilson




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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane

This is a great group, glad you're here.

It is unlikely that a healthy adult cat will pick up FELV through  
casual contact, in my own opinion.  However, since this is a new cat,  
might as well go ahead and separate - it's a polite way to introduce  
them.  But I know several people who mix their FELV with the non-FELV,  
have had them rechecked, and no transmission.  I have mixed mine at  
times and had no problems. When I first acquired an FELV cat I was  
indeed paranoid, but after a while, and with a great group iike this,  
I learned more about it and became less paranoid.  I do give  
interferon alpha to the FELV kitties if they're under 3-4 years old.


I have 2 felv kitties that are 12-14 years old - need to retest, just  
hate to stress them out.  :)


Gloria



On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:


I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious.
Laurie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro

Hello,

I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found  
out that

our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia.

We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The  
animal
shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite  
sure now
either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats,  
dogs, he
shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new  
house in
mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out  
every
now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem  
to hate
this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a  
surprise to

me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving
anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might  
actually
be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have  
tried twice

previous with very bad results).

We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in  
the
bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to  
see if he
would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but  
noticed we

had an issue with worms.

While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is  
when we
found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I  
spoke to
that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision,  
but I
have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not  
really
willing to though because I have already found that he is a very  
loving and
wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking  
some

questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I
decided that we would keep him.

We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that  
we spoke
to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that  
we took
in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much  
less

hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same.

Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind  
on his
vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told  
that,
based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it  
would be
worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until  
his
second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have  
an

experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated?

I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost  
since I
am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch  
up soon.


Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] url for Imulan/LTCI information

2009-04-27 Thread griscome
This is the url for the additional information I found on LTCI.? Some is over 
my head, but the overview of how it works and info on clinical studies?is 
pretty straightforward.??
www.imulantrials.com/uploads/Vol6Iss2Gingerich61-68.pdf??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Southernes
I can't tell you much about the seperation part as I only have the one cat, 
and have never had one before this one. I just want to put in my 2 cents 
for the idea that FeLv+ cats can live very happy lives.  I have one that I've 
had for 2 years.  he may get sick tomorrow, and he has been sick with a few 
things over the last 2 years but he's a happy kitty that wouldn't be here if 
I hadn't taken him in or had put him down when the first vet told me to.


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[Felvtalk] good vet in LA area?

2009-04-27 Thread Laurieskatz
Anyone know one..esp for cancer?

Thanks

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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Sharyl

Welcome Nortina,
You have already received some good advise.  There is a mix of positive and 
negative cats in my home.  My positives are relatively young with the oldest 
two approx 1 1/2 yrs old.  Like McFluffins, love the name, they are rescues.  
My negative kitties have been vaccinated.  I did not mix them until the 
negatives received their follow up 30 day booster.   

Could you keep McFluffins in a separate bedroom until Jasper gets his booster?

Thanks for giving McFluffins a 2nd chance.
Sharyl 

--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 From: Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:13 AM
 Hello, 
 
 I have been a member of this list for a few days now since
 I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline
 leukemia. 
 
 We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years
 old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got
 him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule,
 really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all
 who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house
 in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper,
 who gets out every now and then even though we try not to
 let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw
 them actually playing together which was a surprise to me.
 This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so
 loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we
 realized we might actually be able to have another cat in
 the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with
 very bad results). 
 
 We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him
 McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his
 first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter
 box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an
 issue with worms. 
 
 While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia.
 This is when we found that he tested positive for feline
 leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try
 to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit
 that I thought about having him put down. I was not really
 willing to though because I have already found that he is a
 very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at
 the moment. After asking some questions about how it can
 progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we
 would keep him. 
 
 We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the
 vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be
 issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter
 of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful
 than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the
 same. 
 
 Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper
 was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated
 again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age,
 he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth
 giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart
 until his second booster shot in a month after this one.
 Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really
 necessary to keep them seperated? 
 
 I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a
 little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject,
 so hopefully I will catch up soon. 
 
 Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Patricia . A . Elkins
My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was 
sick
on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks 
on
earth.
Laurie

Laurie,
With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - 
both the sick
one and the well one?
I would like to do exactly what you did.

Thanks!
Trissa in Philly

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Re: [Felvtalk] Intro

2009-04-27 Thread Laurieskatz
The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what
this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline
leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated
with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection
the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I
loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural
Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and
canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a
carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a
companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk
for a new kitty
Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do
well no matter what we do!
Laurie

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My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was 
sick
on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks 
on
earth.
Laurie

Laurie,
With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - 
both the sick
one and the well one?
I would like to do exactly what you did.

Thanks!
Trissa in Philly

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