[Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens?
Just wanted to thank everyone again for the kind words about my baby I lost a week ago, Nibbler. I have some questions about his two brothers Brillo and Desmond. They are in great health with no symptoms. Is it a good idea to get FeLV+ kittens their shots? Also, in a month they will be old enough to get fixed, should I do that as well? Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Bridget will be started on LTCI
We are going to start Bridget on LTCI. Many thanks to all the members of this group - I would not have known about this drug without you. She's doing great. Very active and lively and not acting sick at all. She's a little unhappy because I've moved her into the garage with the other positive cats, but she does seem to enjoy the heat in there - I keep it real warm because of the tortoises and it's much more comfortable than the house. Bridget generally is not fond of other cats, and my FeLV guys and girl are all huge, so she's a little intimidated right now, but she'll adjust. I'll keep you all updated on her progress. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens?
Crystal, all 8 of my positive kittens received their shots and were spayed/neutered with no ill affects. Fixing the boys will reduce the stress in their lives. I follow the new shot protocol. After their 1st yr shots mine get boosters every three years. They do to the vet annually for a check up. Good Luck Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 11:06 AM Just wanted to thank everyone again for the kind words about my baby I lost a week ago, Nibbler. I have some questions about his two brothers Brillo and Desmond. They are in great health with no symptoms. Is it a good idea to get FeLV+ kittens their shots? Also, in a month they will be old enough to get fixed, should I do that as well? Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis
Natasha, I see no reason why you can't cut and paste Ben's test results. You may want to start a new message since there is a limit on the size of a message. Sharyl --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 5:23 PM Hi there! I've just subscribed to Felvtalk, and I'm not at all sure how this system works, so please forgive me if I mess it up. I've been through a rough time with my kitty lately. His name is Ben, and he's about 5 months old. He developed toxoplasmosis on Saturday (28/11/09), and initially responded well to treatment, we caught it in an early stage. Yesterday his condition started deteriorating, which is when my vet suggested we test him for FIV/FeLV, and my baby tested positive for FIV. The vet thinks he probably has FeLV as well, because of his age, he might not have enough antibody response to the FeLV yet. I lost a cat in June who only had FeLV, not FIV, and we lost him in the space of 24 hours after the diagnosis was made. I dont know enough aboout this subject, and I'm struggeling to get the answers I need to my questions. I was wondering - I've been blogging about this on the dailykitten website, could I paste all that info here? I'm going to start crying again if I have to repeat all that information again? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
That really sucks big time. I knew that Peta had problems, and I haven't contributed to them in a long time. But I've never heard of this idiocy. I'll pass this info on - thanks for posting. Gloria --- Original Message --- From : Sharyl[mailto:cline...@yahoo.com] Sent : 12/3/2009 1:51:08 PM To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc : Subject : RE: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Sharyl, this story breaks my heart. I know you must be devastated. There's just so much mis-information out there. My sympathies. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 4658 (20091203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
I am so sorry. My heart feels your pain. So sad and so unjustified since you agreed to keep them. We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be returned to their location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
I wouldn't give those people anything but a view of my backside as I walked out. There are low cost spay/neuter clinics all around...but sometimes you have to really search them out. I found a local organization that just does the surgery...they will test if I request it, but I don't. PETA doesn't want feral cats, but they don't think we should have them as prisoners in our homesgo figure. I am so sorry about your little ones, SharylI understand your pain and guilt. BTW, they shouldn't have kept your money since I am sure they did the test prior to surgery! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:51:08 -0800 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis
I'm so sorry, Natasha. I've had several double positives, and they have lived normal lives for a while, but getting sick with anything was taxing on them. I don't have any double positives right now...I think the first one I had was Mr. Black Kitty back in 2002 or 3, and I'm so glad I took him in. But I'd sure wait and see before assuming that your kitty has FELV also. The other thing - I think vets don't see healthy FIV and FELV cats as much as they see sick ones - makes sense. So they think of them as sick, when actually they can have some good healthy years. Sending you some good thoughts - Gloria --- Original Message --- From : Sharyl[mailto:cline...@yahoo.com] Sent : 12/3/2009 12:16:58 PM To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis Natasha, I see no reason why you can't cut and paste Ben's test results. You may want to start a new message since there is a limit on the size of a message. Sharyl --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 5:23 PM Hi there! I've just subscribed to Felvtalk, and I'm not at all sure how this system works, so please forgive me if I mess it up. I've been through a rough time with my kitty lately. His name is Ben, and he's about 5 months old. He developed toxoplasmosis on Saturday (28/11/09), and initially responded well to treatment, we caught it in an early stage. Yesterday his condition started deteriorating, which is when my vet suggested we test him for FIV/FeLV, and my baby tested positive for FIV. The vet thinks he probably has FeLV as well, because of his age, he might not have enough antibody response to the FeLV yet. I lost a cat in June who only had FeLV, not FIV, and we lost him in the space of 24 hours after the diagnosis was made. I dont know enough aboout this subject, and I'm struggeling to get the answers I need to my questions. I was wondering - I've been blogging about this on the dailykitten website, could I paste all that info here? I'm going to start crying again if I have to repeat all that information again? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Laurie, I so want to find a local source for ;ow cost SN. I've rescued 16 other cats from this colony. I knew one family line had FeLV. I rescued all 8 of them and still have 3. Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:56 PM I am so sorry. My heart feels your pain. So sad and so unjustified since you agreed to keep them. We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be returned to their location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Bless your heart. I suggest you find a female vet and maybe find one who already does low cost SN...maybe one who works with your shelter? Where do you live? (you can email me privately about that if you want). Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Laurie, I so want to find a local source for ;ow cost SN. I've rescued 16 other cats from this colony. I knew one family line had FeLV. I rescued all 8 of them and still have 3. Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:56 PM I am so sorry. My heart feels your pain. So sad and so unjustified since you agreed to keep them. We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be returned to their location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My current questions about FIV+ diagnosis
Hi! I posted yesterday about Ben's diagnosis. I've blogged this a lot on the daily kitten website, you can follow the thread if you want the whole story; but I'm just going to cut paste the questions I asked there. For the purpose of clarity, Ben is his proper name, but we just call him Stumpie, or Stump for short. Sky is a female cat in my house (much older than him) who adopted him as her own baby. Hope that covers any uncertainties? I'm sorry, but this is going to be a really long post. Please bear with me? I've calmed down a lot since my last post - had some time out to digest this. The reason why I freaked out is that I lost my soul-cat (Jack, my avatar) in June to leukemia. He was diagnosed on the Wednesday, and we put him to sleep on the Thursday because he was just too sick (organ failure etc). Stump's scenario looks a bit different. We caught the toxo-thing really early, and he's responding well to the treatment. Last night I was worried because he was so pale and lethargic, he definitely has a lot more energy today, but he's still awfully pale. But he's eating well, and drinking, up and running/playing - Jack couldn't do any of those things when we got his diagnosis. So I do have some hope for the child. Very tentatively, I'm soo scared of getting my heart broken all over again. My vet didnt really give me any info when he gave me the diagnosis, he gave Stump's medicine to me and said we should continue his treatment at home. Dont know if this is because he wants us to have time to say goodbye, or to minimize stressfull experiences on Stump. Point is, I now have a refrigerator full of meds to give the child. My issue now is, I have s many questions to ask, and I'm sure my vet is going to feel I'm wasting his time. Dont get me wrong, the man is a diagnostic guru with animals, and he loves animals, but he's definitely not a people-person, he's not going to get where I'm coming from on an emotional level. So I'm going to post my ideas/thoughts and questions, and hopefully some experienced TDK'ers can enlighten me? 1) Stump has no immunity of his own, due to the FIV, but also because he was a bottle baby, so he never got colostrum. Would it be worth it to supplement his diet with either some commercially produced colostrum, or to try to source some from someone who has a goat that is currently producing colostrum? I've heard from a lot of people that goat's milk is a better milk replacement than any commercial product can hope to be, we just dont have goats in the cities. If it would help, I would buy my own bloody goat at this point . . . 2) There are a few herbal remedies available here in SA that claim to help support compromised immune responses (as you may know the human aids epidemic in SA is a catastrophe), called eco-immune, developed specifically for animals. Would this contribute to helping Stump? I'm not a big believer in herbal remedies, but if it will help, I'll definitely give it a try. 3) The vet said I should keep Stump on the royal canin recovery diet because it's very high in fat, protein and calory values. Is this a good idea where kidney failure is a very real possibility? 4) Should I keep Stump isolated from my other cats? They've all had their shots, but when Jack died I was shocked to find that the FeLV on the label of the vaccine isn't actually the same FeLV that cats usually get (I was really P*SS*D off about that), any way, vet said there are specific vaccines for immunising agains FeLV, but I dont know if it's the same for FIV? If all my other cats were to get that shot, could they be allowed to socialise with each other again? I'm keeping Stump isolated for now. 5) The indoor-thing. All the tags I've read say to keep FIV+ kitties inside; Stump loves playing outside and climbing trees, we have an enclosed courtyard. If we cleaned it out with bleach and introduced a lot of potted plants and trees and things, could Stump play 'outside' that way? It is entirely possible to keep the other cats out of that area? 6) Stump Sky - they love each other dearly. Sky was always a cold and distant b*%$, but when Stump came along she took him on as her own baby. He tried (unsuccessfully) to nurse from her, but she let him, and she grooms him all the time, for all intensive purposes they are a mommy-baby pair. Sky is freaking out completely because we wont let her in to see her baby. She's been sitting in front of his door, crying and scratching at all night. Sky lived at an integrated shelter for two years before we adopted her. Integrated = no cages, all the cats were free to roam and come and go as they pleased. Sky was the one who introduced the snuffles super-strain into our household. Would she possibly have been exposed to, and developed her own immune response to, FIV? So many of the things I've read so far say a diagnosis of FIV doesnt necessarily mean a death sentence. I'm really hoping that if we can get Stump
[Felvtalk] FeLV Kitten Needs a Home
Hi all. I've been a member of this group for about a year now and enjoy learning and listening to your experiences regarding your FeLV kitties. I have two positives and one negative of my own. So long story short, I went into Petco yesterday to get some food for my cats and ran into a lady who volunteered with an adoption agency. When she learned I had positive cats, she asked if I would be willing to take in a 3 month old, orange tabby male who is FeLV positive and in the care of a vet in New York City. I respectfully declined as it was when we brought in our 3rd cat that we learned our oldest was positive. I think the stress of having to deal with another cat in the house caused her symptoms to surface. She is doing great now after her diagnosis almost a year ago (as is our youngest who also ended up being positive) and I want to keep the stress down to a minimum. That means no new kitties for us. So I told her I'd pass along the information to the group and see if anyone can take on or knows someone who can take in a new FeLV kitty. If you want more information, contact me directly and I'll provide you with the information for the shelter and woman. Thanks. And thanks for all the great advice and information. You all have helped me in such a huge way and I know my babies appreciate it every day. Best, Carol ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] low-cost neuter-spay resources (ignoring completely the topic of PETA)
www.neuterspay.org look under, find low cost resources. for some reason, not all computers will display results, tho in other cases, the problem is not waiting long enough for the results to show up--the database is HUGE. in that case, let me know best bet, unless you live in a big city, is to just look up by state, and then go through the listings for places nearby: if you go by zip code or city, you'll miss places a block outside the exact match. don't forget to check the couple of nationwide listings, as those have voucher programs with local vets. unfortunately, programs start up--and exhaust their funding!--almost as soon as we update their listings, so while this is the most up-to-date listing online as of a year or so ago, it is NOT up-to-the-minute. (and if anyone has spare time to take on a state or two, we'd be MORE than glad to have your assistance!) MC in her guise of datag...@neuterspay.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and solace to you. I'm grieving with you. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? Sharyl, I am so very sorry. Janine From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:51:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and solace to you. I'm grieving with you. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] low-cost neuter-spay resources (ignoring completely the topic of PETA)
Thanks for the link MC. I had checked them out a couple of yrs ago. There is one that might work that I'll call again. Their web site is gone but they may still be active. There others were over 2 hrs drive away. My computer crashed a couple of weeks ago and I'm having big problems with this new one. For some reason I can not access any SPCA web sites. When I had checked before they did not do ferals. Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/3/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] low-cost neuter-spay resources (ignoring completely the topic of PETA) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 7:46 PM www.neuterspay.org look under, find low cost resources. for some reason, not all computers will display results, tho in other cases, the problem is not waiting long enough for the results to show up--the database is HUGE. in that case, let me know best bet, unless you live in a big city, is to just look up by state, and then go through the listings for places nearby: if you go by zip code or city, you'll miss places a block outside the exact match. don't forget to check the couple of nationwide listings, as those have voucher programs with local vets. unfortunately, programs start up--and exhaust their funding!--almost as soon as we update their listings, so while this is the most up-to-date listing online as of a year or so ago, it is NOT up-to-the-minute. (and if anyone has spare time to take on a state or two, we'd be MORE than glad to have your assistance!) MC in her guise of datag...@neuterspay.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget will be started on LTCI
Thanks, Laura, I'm very interested - keep us up to date on what's going on! Gloria On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:21 AM, LauraM wrote: We are going to start Bridget on LTCI. Many thanks to all the members of this group - I would not have known about this drug without you. She's doing great. Very active and lively and not acting sick at all. She's a little unhappy because I've moved her into the garage with the other positive cats, but she does seem to enjoy the heat in there - I keep it real warm because of the tortoises and it's much more comfortable than the house. Bridget generally is not fond of other cats, and my FeLV guys and girl are all huge, so she's a little intimidated right now, but she'll adjust. I'll keep you all updated on her progress. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
