Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Sharyl, PETA is terrible. I donated to them for years before I found out what they do to feral cats. I've horror stories about how they are out to exterminate all the feral cats they can. When I heard about the things they do to cats I e-mailed them and they admitted it. They said the cats were killed to spare them any suffering in the future!! I'm so sorry you had this happen to Smokey Jo and Butterball. I know you must feel just terrible about it. Lorrie On 12-03, Sharyl wrote: Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens
I give my cats their basic PCRC shots and rabies shots every three years but I just started giving my FelV negative cats the FelV shots. I'd like an opinion from all of you as to whether a booster is necessary once a year for the FelV shot. I have no FelV cats at home that I know of. All 14 cats were tested when I took them in but it's too expensive to retest them every year. Lorrie On 12-03, Sharyl wrote: Crystal, all 8 of my positive kittens received their shots and were spayed/neutered with no ill affects. Fixing the boys will reduce the stress in their lives. I follow the new shot protocol. After their 1st yr shots mine get boosters every three years. They do to the vet annually for a check up. Good Luck Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Feral cats - PETA
http://www.animalalliancenyc.org/nycfci/ToTestOrNotToTest.pdf http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=429 In Barcelona (Spain) protectionist organizations and volunteers that work with ferals cats are definitevely againts sistematic killer of positive FelV and FIV cats. We also have support of many vets... but not all, Government agencies use to kill all the cats they trap Dr Julie Levy was recently in BCN and we agree totally with her. What we do: If the cat is healthy and has to be released, we definitively will not test them... Nevertheless We always test all the ill cats or those intented to be placed for adoption and those that can be accommodated in a non killer shelter -- Esther = ^..^ = ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Janine, I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing that came to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the ferals they can. On 12-03, janine paton wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? Sharyl, I am so very sorry. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Janine, I would bet money in it! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:22:25 -0800 From: patonjan...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? Sharyl, I am so very sorry. Janine From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:51:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and solace to you. I'm grieving with you. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens
Lorrie, I don't know what to say. I have a mix of negatives and positives. All my negatives get there annual leukemia booster. Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:52 PM I give my cats their basic PCRC shots and rabies shots every three years but I just started giving my FelV negative cats the FelV shots. I'd like an opinion from all of you as to whether a booster is necessary once a year for the FelV shot. I have no FelV cats at home that I know of. All 14 cats were tested when I took them in but it's too expensive to retest them every year. Lorrie On 12-03, Sharyl wrote: Crystal, all 8 of my positive kittens received their shots and were spayed/neutered with no ill affects. Fixing the boys will reduce the stress in their lives. I follow the new shot protocol. After their 1st yr shots mine get boosters every three years. They do to the vet annually for a check up. Good Luck Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens?
My boys are negative but I stretched their shots out and were very selective about which ones they got. My vets approved this given that they were indoor kittens after they adopted me. Prior to that they were very young ferals. I waited as long as I could to neuter them but there were signs they were ready to mark their territory. I had them done on the same day to keep from upsetting balance of power they had established. On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Crystal Proper wrote: Just wanted to thank everyone again for the kind words about my baby I lost a week ago, Nibbler. I have some questions about his two brothers Brillo and Desmond. They are in great health with no symptoms. Is it a good idea to get FeLV+ kittens their shots? Also, in a month they will be old enough to get fixed, should I do that as well? Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
I HAVE READ ALL THE POSTS ON PETA. I THINK WE ALL SHOULD GIVE THEM A PIECE OF OUR MINDS. PROBABLY WON;T MAKE THEM CHANGE THEIR MINDS, BUT MAYBE IT WILL MAKE THEM THINK TWICE. HOW DARE THEY NOT LET THESE BABIES HAVE A CHANCE AT LIFE! RIGHT NOW, I AM WRITING AROUND EARS AND NOSES SINCE HARLEY AND DEE BOTH LIKE TO CHASE THE CURSER AND NEW WORDS AS THEY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. WE REALLY LIKE THEACTIONS ON SOME OF THE COMMERCIALS ON SCREEN. RIGHT NOW A MAN IS SHOVELING SNOW AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CATCH HIM. I KNOW I WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, BUT I DO THINK I WOULD HAVE TRASHED A FEW OF THEM BEFORE I LEFT. I KNOW I WOULD HAVE HAD MURDER IN MY HEART. SHERYL, I FEEL FOR YOU. I KNOW HOW I WOULD HAVE FELT. MY PRAYERS FOR YOU, YOU TRIED TO DO WHAT WAS RIGHT AND THEY DOUBLE CROSSED YOU. LOVE, DORLIS Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
maybe we should start our own education program about PETA and let everyone know just how caring they are. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Janine, I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing that came to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the ferals they can. On 12-03, janine paton wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? Sharyl, I am so very sorry. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Sharyl, I am so, so sorry to hear this happened to your kitties; it's incredibly angering that PETA not only undermined your plans to give them a happy, healthy existence, but also absconded with your money. Like others on this list, I'm pretty sure they tested before performing the surgery, and so had no right to keep your payment-- especially after killing two cats that had a safe haven waiting for them! What disgusting, abjectly unethical behavior on their part! They'll never get another dime (nor any kind words) from me following this... Gentle bridge vibes to your two babies... Best, Anna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
I wish I had the money to run a public service commercial after everyone of their's telling folks PETA kills cats and dogs. Sharyl --- On Fri, 12/4/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:32 PM maybe we should start our own education program about PETA and let everyone know just how caring they are. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Janine, I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing that came to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the ferals they can. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
Hi Natasha, Are all your other cats up to date on feline leukemia vaccinations? You should NOT get FIV vaccination for your cats. It isn't that effective and they will then test positive for FIV, even if they don't have it. I am really hoping Stump only has FIV because that is a lot easier to manage. It really isn't as contagious as once thought passed mainly be deep bites. As long as he isn't fighting with the others to the point of drawing blood, there is no reason to separate him. I am not sure how significant a source intimate grooming is, I think very slight. I think you could let him out in the yard to play, just keep an eye on him so that he doesn't encounter strange cats. You might not want to let him out if it gets really cold, just to keep him from getting too chilled. I will let others address mixing vaccinated FeLV cats and positive cats, I don't have much information. Given that Stump and Sky have bonded, it would be a shame to have to keep them apart. Good luck with the poor baby. Merlin Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] My current questions about FIV+ diagnosis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 693500.24476...@web45614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi! I posted yesterday about Ben's diagnosis. I've blogged this a lot on the daily kitten website, you can follow the thread if you want the whole story; but I'm just going to cut paste the questions I asked there. For the purpose of clarity, Ben is his proper name, but we just call him Stumpie, or Stump for short. Sky is a female cat in my house (much older than him) who adopted him as her own baby. Hope that covers any uncertainties? ? I'm sorry, but this is going to be a really long post. Please bear with me? I've calmed down a lot since my last post - had some time out to digest this. The reason why I freaked out is that I lost my soul-cat (Jack, my avatar) in June to leukemia. He was diagnosed on the Wednesday, and we put him to sleep on the Thursday because he was just too sick (organ failure etc). Stump's scenario looks a bit different. We caught the toxo-thing really early, and he's responding well to the treatment. Last night I was worried because he was so pale and lethargic, he definitely has a lot more energy today, but he's still awfully pale. But he's eating well, and drinking, up and running/playing - Jack couldn't do any of those things when we got his diagnosis. So I do have some hope for the child. Very tentatively, I'm soo scared of getting my heart broken all over again. My vet didnt really give me any info when he gave me the diagnosis, he gave Stump's medicine to me and said we should continue his treatment at home. Dont know if this is because he wants us to have time to say goodbye, or to minimize stressfull experiences on Stump. Point is, I now have a refrigerator full of meds to give the child. My issue now is, I have s many questions to ask, and I'm sure my vet is going to feel I'm wasting his time. Dont get me wrong, the man is a diagnostic guru with animals, and he loves animals, but he's definitely not a people-person, he's not going to get where I'm coming from on an emotional level. So I'm going to post my ideas/thoughts and questions, and hopefully some experienced TDK'ers can enlighten me? 1) Stump has no immunity of his own, due to the FIV, but also because he was a bottle baby, so he never got colostrum. Would it be worth it to supplement his diet with either some commercially produced colostrum, or to try to source some from someone who has a goat that is currently producing colostrum? I've heard from a lot of people that goat's milk is a better milk replacement than any commercial product can hope to be, we just dont have goats in the cities. If it would help, I would buy my own bloody goat at this point . . . 2) There are a few herbal remedies available here in SA that claim to help support compromised immune responses (as you may know the human aids epidemic in SA is a catastrophe), called eco-immune, developed specifically for animals. Would this contribute to helping Stump? I'm not a big believer in herbal remedies, but if it will help, I'll definitely give it a try. 3) The vet said I should keep Stump on the royal canin recovery diet because it's very high in fat, protein and calory values. Is this a good idea where kidney failure is a very real possibility? 4) Should I keep Stump isolated from my other cats? They've all had their shots, but when Jack died I was shocked to find that the FeLV on the label of the vaccine isn't actually the same FeLV that cats usually get (I was really P*SS*D off about that), any way, vet said there are specific vaccines for immunising agains FeLV, but I dont know if it's the same for FIV? If all my other cats were to get that shot, could they be allowed to socialise with each other
[Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
This is a letter I wrote to PETA. The e-mail address is about a year old so I hope it's still good. Jeff, I was a member of PETA for many, many years, but I stopped donating money to your organization when I found out how PETA treats feral and stray cats. I have cared for a colony of feral cats for several years, and they are all healthy, happy cats. Your attitude towards killing all the feral cats you can is sick and disgusting for a supposedly humane organization. Lorrie MacArgle Jeff Haine Correspondence Assistant, PETA Foundation Email: je...@peta.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
Thanks for the support Lorrie Sharyl --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 4:46 PM This is a letter I wrote to PETA. The e-mail address is about a year old so I hope it's still good. Jeff, I was a member of PETA for many, many years, but I stopped donating money to your organization when I found out how PETA treats feral and stray cats. I have cared for a colony of feral cats for several years, and they are all healthy, happy cats. Your attitude towards killing all the feral cats you can is sick and disgusting for a supposedly humane organization. Lorrie MacArgle Jeff Haine Correspondence Assistant, PETA Foundation Email: je...@peta.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
What was their reason for this/ did they give one? Unconscionable act. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
they don't believe in people owning animals. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: What was their reason for this/ did they give one? Unconscionable act. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
Horrid. What other people do is NOT their business. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address they don't believe in people owning animals. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: What was their reason for this/ did they give one? Unconscionable act. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
Here's the trial result ftom the http://www.petakillsanimals.com/Trial.cfm web site It's over, folks. A North Carolina jury has acquitted two PETA employees of Animal Cruelty and Obtaining Property By False Pretenses. Guilty verdicts were handed down for Littering, in connection with PETA employees Adria Hinkle and Andrew Cook's improper disposal of their furry victims' bodies. Hinkle and Cook were each given suspended 10-day jail sentences, 12 months' probation, 50 hours of community service, a $1,000 fine, and nearly $3,000 in restitution. And PETA's death van has been confiscated by the town of Ahoskie, NC. PETA will undoubtedly launch a legal appeal. While we certainly didn't see these Not Guilty verdicts coming, we'll give PETA's highly paid lawyers credit for blowing enough smoke and sowing enough confusion to confuse a jury. (That's their job, after all.) But it has now been established in court that PETA, in fact, kills animals. Inevitably, more and more of PETA's naïve supporters will get a clue. --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:09 PM What was their reason for this/ did they give one? Unconscionable act. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens
My vet believes the first shot and booster for FeLV are sufficient. I do not vaccinate for FELV anymore (after the first shot and booster). I also have only FeLV- cats (as far as I know). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Shots For FeLV+ Kittens I give my cats their basic PCRC shots and rabies shots every three years but I just started giving my FelV negative cats the FelV shots. I'd like an opinion from all of you as to whether a booster is necessary once a year for the FelV shot. I have no FelV cats at home that I know of. All 14 cats were tested when I took them in but it's too expensive to retest them every year. Lorrie On 12-03, Sharyl wrote: Crystal, all 8 of my positive kittens received their shots and were spayed/neutered with no ill affects. Fixing the boys will reduce the stress in their lives. I follow the new shot protocol. After their 1st yr shots mine get boosters every three years. They do to the vet annually for a check up. Good Luck Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address
Aren't they vehemently opposed to any pet ownership at all? But I simply don't get why they would consider this treatment ethical -- nor how they can justify killing animals by saying they're saving them from future suffering that might never happen -- and in Sharyl's case, would NOT have happened. These people need slapping down. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address What was their reason for this/ did they give one? Unconscionable act. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about household cats as they are about ferals. these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
