Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

[Maria]

Beth -

The eye vet ophthalmologist briefly discussed that there is a small chance
the lymphoma could just be in the eye and we could remove the eye.  However,
he thinks that if it is already in the eye, it is most likely somewhere else
in the body.  He would want me to do a full body scan to look for lymphoma
somewhere else before doing the biopsy on the eye. Maybe I should go for a
second opinion?

When they do a full body scan, they look for thick areas of tissue.  These
areas are not necessarily lymphoma...esp in FelV+ cats, it could just be
irritation in the intestine or stomach. They have to do a biopsy to make
sure.  So, potentially, if they find thick tissue, they could do a biopsy,
it could be nothing, then i would still have to do a biopsy on the eye to
find out if it is really lymphoma.  Then remove the eye.   I don't know if I
want to put him through all of that.

No real improvement today. Although he was very interested in the birdies
outside this morning which really made me smile.  Just trying to enjoy each
day I have with him.

Thanks,

Maria

> Maria -
> Can they just remove the eye? Not sure if he is healthy enough, but I am
> taking in an FeLV cat next week that has what they think are cancerous
> polyps around his eye - not to mention he was severely abused & he cannot
> see out of the eye anyway. They are removing the eye.
>
> Beth
> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org  ?
>
> --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Maria  wrote:
>
> From: Maria 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 12:37 PM
>
> I had a conversation with my primary vet this morning about Bernie and his
> Uveitis/possible lymphoma.? I'm not sure what to do. I'm frustrated, sad,
> angry and I feel like I'm running into walls everywhere.? It seems like
> there are never answers for these cats. It could be one thing, but that is
> a
> symptom of something else, we could do this test, but that might not tell
> us
> for sure what is wrong.? I keep going in circles and the bottom line still
> is my baby doesn't feel well, and I'm emotionally and financially spent. I
> want to do something to help him but I don't know what or what will work.
>
> His activity appears to be declining each day.? Still eating, but this
> morning he didn't eat his whole bowl of food.? To find out if it is
> lymphoma, we could do a biopsy on the eye, but its risky, and its a hard
> area to get a good sample.? We could go to an internist and have a scan
> done
> to see if there are any masses somewhere else in the body.? Even if there
> are, we would still have to do a biopsy to find out if it is lymphoma. His
> blood work 2 weeks ago was completely normal. I am continuing w/ steroid
> drops 3x a day.
>
> Apparently with Uveitis there isn't usually any pain associated with the
> eye... so she didn't recommend pain medication at this point.? I don't
> think
> he is in pain (cats can probably cover this up well though.), he
> doesn't
> wince or anything, but he is just not acting like himself.
>
> I guess we just take it day by day at this point but I feel helpless like
> I'm just letting him go.???Sorry for the rant, just needed to type to get
> my
> thoughts out.? Thanks.
>
> Maria
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>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:33:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Amy 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Message-ID: <535811.88786...@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Maria,
>
> Nothing really funny looking about Luigi's eye.  It's almost kind of cool
> looking.  He just has a ring around about 1/2 of his eye.  It's down one
> side and down the other side and just looks like a coppery tone.  My vet
> didn't recall noticing it before and called a specialist just to see if she
> should refer me.  He started talking about how it could be all these
> horrible things and how we could remove the eye, etc.  This cat has been
> with me for several years with no illness or odd behavior of any type so I'm
> definitely not considering anything like that.  What if it's nothing?  He
> runs around like a wild man and is certainly not in any discomfort that I
> can see.  So anyway, I'm kind of worried, yet hopeful that it might be
> nothing.  You would never think anything was strange about his eye looking
> at him but we all just wonder why this color would appear out of nowhere.
>
> I did get the toxo results back and they are negative.  I was also kind of
> hoping it would be positive but I guess anything these cats don't have is a
> plus.
>
> Please let me know how things go with Bernie and how you choose to proceed.
>  I've lost several positives over the years and I think I mi

Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

[Beth]

I'm so sorry, sounds like you have a lot of decisions to make. I agree on not 
putting them through too much.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Maria  wrote:

From: Maria 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:28 PM

Beth -

The eye vet ophthalmologist briefly discussed that there is a small chance
the lymphoma could just be in the eye and we could remove the eye.  However,
he thinks that if it is already in the eye, it is most likely somewhere else
in the body.  He would want me to do a full body scan to look for lymphoma
somewhere else before doing the biopsy on the eye. Maybe I should go for a
second opinion?

When they do a full body scan, they look for thick areas of tissue.  These
areas are not necessarily lymphoma...esp in FelV+ cats, it could just be
irritation in the intestine or stomach. They have to do a biopsy to make
sure.  So, potentially, if they find thick tissue, they could do a biopsy,
it could be nothing, then i would still have to do a biopsy on the eye to
find out if it is really lymphoma.  Then remove the eye.   I don't know if I
want to put him through all of that.

No real improvement today. Although he was very interested in the birdies
outside this morning which really made me smile.  Just trying to enjoy each
day I have with him.

Thanks,

Maria

> Maria -
> Can they just remove the eye? Not sure if he is healthy enough, but I am
> taking in an FeLV cat next week that has what they think are cancerous
> polyps around his eye - not to mention he was severely abused & he cannot
> see out of the eye anyway. They are removing the eye.
>
> Beth
> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org  ?
>
> --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Maria  wrote:
>
> From: Maria 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 12:37 PM
>
> I had a conversation with my primary vet this morning about Bernie and his
> Uveitis/possible lymphoma.? I'm not sure what to do. I'm frustrated, sad,
> angry and I feel like I'm running into walls everywhere.? It seems like
> there are never answers for these cats. It could be one thing, but that is
> a
> symptom of something else, we could do this test, but that might not tell
> us
> for sure what is wrong.? I keep going in circles and the bottom line still
> is my baby doesn't feel well, and I'm emotionally and financially spent. I
> want to do something to help him but I don't know what or what will work.
>
> His activity appears to be declining each day.? Still eating, but this
> morning he didn't eat his whole bowl of food.? To find out if it is
> lymphoma, we could do a biopsy on the eye, but its risky, and its a hard
> area to get a good sample.? We could go to an internist and have a scan
> done
> to see if there are any masses somewhere else in the body.? Even if there
> are, we would still have to do a biopsy to find out if it is lymphoma. His
> blood work 2 weeks ago was completely normal. I am continuing w/ steroid
> drops 3x a day.
>
> Apparently with Uveitis there isn't usually any pain associated with the
> eye... so she didn't recommend pain medication at this point.? I don't
> think
> he is in pain (cats can probably cover this up well though.), he
> doesn't
> wince or anything, but he is just not acting like himself.
>
> I guess we just take it day by day at this point but I feel helpless like
> I'm just letting him go.???Sorry for the rant, just needed to type to get
> my
> thoughts out.? Thanks.
>
> Maria
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:33:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Amy 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Message-ID: <535811.88786...@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Maria,
>
> Nothing really funny looking about Luigi's eye.  It's almost kind of cool
> looking.  He just has a ring around about 1/2 of his eye.  It's down one
> side and down the other side and just looks like a coppery tone.  My vet
> didn't recall noticing it before and called a specialist just to see if she
> should refer me.  He started talking about how it could be all these
> horrible things and how we could remove the eye, etc.  This cat has been
> with me for several years with no illness or odd behavior of any type so I'm
> definitely not considering anything like that.  What if it's nothing?  He
> runs around like a wild man and is certainly not in any discomfort that I
> can see.  So anyway, I'm kind of worried, yet hopeful that it might be
> nothing.  You would never think anything was strange about his eye looking
> at him but we all just wonder why this color would

Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

For anyone interested, my cat Linus was diagnosed with
lymphoma in the spring of 2008 and given 4-6 weeks to live.
I asked my vet to start him on intravenous sodium ascorbate
in sodium chloride and titrate to the rate of 1g per pound
of body weight.  Linus received the drips via catheters in
his front leg (alternating legs) 3 days per week (the
catheter remains in for 3 days) for three months, then off
for three months, then repeated for 3 more months.  He is
still with me today, some two years after his terminal
diagnosis and his last infusion was back in April of 2009.
He is still happy and healthy as a horse, and this is a cat
with FeLV.  



Sally Jewell

> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:48 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> 
> I'm so sorry, sounds like you have a lot of decisions to
make. I
> agree on not putting them through too much.
> 
> Beth
> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Maria  wrote:
> 
> From: Maria 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:28 PM
> 
> Beth -
> 
> The eye vet ophthalmologist briefly discussed that there
is a
> small chance
> the lymphoma could just be in the eye and we could remove
the
> eye.  However,
> he thinks that if it is already in the eye, it is most
likely
> somewhere else
> in the body.  He would want me to do a full body scan to
look for
> lymphoma
> somewhere else before doing the biopsy on the eye. Maybe I
> should go for a
> second opinion?
> 
> When they do a full body scan, they look for thick areas
of
> tissue.  These
> areas are not necessarily lymphoma...esp in FelV+ cats, it
could
> just be
> irritation in the intestine or stomach. They have to do a
biopsy to
> make
> sure.  So, potentially, if they find thick tissue, they
could do a
> biopsy,
> it could be nothing, then i would still have to do a
biopsy on the
> eye to
> find out if it is really lymphoma.  Then remove the
eye.   I don't
> know if I
> want to put him through all of that.
> 
> No real improvement today. Although he was very interested
in
> the birdies
> outside this morning which really made me smile.  Just
trying to
> enjoy each
> day I have with him.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Maria
> 
> > Maria -
> > Can they just remove the eye? Not sure if he is healthy
> enough, but I am
> > taking in an FeLV cat next week that has what they think
are
> cancerous
> > polyps around his eye - not to mention he was severely
abused
> & he cannot
> > see out of the eye anyway. They are removing the eye.
> >
> > Beth
> > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org
>  ?
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Maria  wrote:
> >
> > From: Maria 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 12:37 PM
> >
> > I had a conversation with my primary vet this morning
about
> Bernie and his
> > Uveitis/possible lymphoma.? I'm not sure what to do. I'm
> frustrated, sad,
> > angry and I feel like I'm running into walls
everywhere.? It
> seems like
> > there are never answers for these cats. It could be one
thing,
> but that is
> > a
> > symptom of something else, we could do this test, but
that
> might not tell
> > us
> > for sure what is wrong.? I keep going in circles and the
bottom
> line still
> > is my baby doesn't feel well, and I'm emotionally and
financially
> spent. I
> > want to do something to help him but I don't know what
or what
> will work.
> >
> > His activity appears to be declining each day.? Still
eating, but
> this
> > morning he didn't eat his whole bowl of food.? To find
out if it is
> > lymphoma, we could do a biopsy on the eye, but its
risky, and
> its a hard
> > area to get a good sample.? We could go to an internist
and
> have a scan
> > done
> > to see if there are any masses somewhere else in the
body.?
> Even if there
> > are, we would still have to do a biopsy to find out if
it is
> lymphoma. His
> > blood work 2 weeks ago was completely normal. I am
> continuing w/ steroid
> > drops 3x a day.
> >
> > Apparently with Uveitis there isn't usually any pain
associated
> with the
> > eye... so she didn't recommend pain medication at this
point.? I
> don't
> > think
> > he is in pain (cats can probably cover this up well
though.),
> he
> > doesn't
> > wince or anything, but he is just not acting like
himself.
> >
> > I guess we just take it day by day at this point but I
feel helpless
> like
> > I'm just letting him go.???Sorry for the rant, just
needed to type
> to get
> > my
> > thoughts out.? Thanks.
> >
> > Maria
> > ___
> > Felvtalk mailing list
> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >
>
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele
ukemia.o
> rg
> >
> >
> 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

For anyone interested, my cat Linus was diagnosed with
lymphoma in the spring of 2008 and given 4-6 weeks to live.
I asked my vet to start him on intravenous sodium ascorbate
in sodium chloride and titrate to the rate of 1g per pound
of body weight.  Linus received the drips via catheters in
his front leg (alternating legs) 3 days per week (the
catheter remains in for 3 days) for three months, then off
for three months, then repeated for 3 more months.  He is
still with me today, some two years after his terminal
diagnosis and his last infusion was back in April of 2009.
He is still happy and healthy as a horse, and this is a cat
with FeLV.  



Sally Jewell

> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:48 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> 
> I'm so sorry, sounds like you have a lot of decisions to
make. I
> agree on not putting them through too much.
> 
> Beth
> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Maria  wrote:
> 
> From: Maria 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:28 PM
> 
> Beth -
> 
> The eye vet ophthalmologist briefly discussed that there
is a
> small chance
> the lymphoma could just be in the eye and we could remove
the
> eye.  However,
> he thinks that if it is already in the eye, it is most
likely
> somewhere else
> in the body.  He would want me to do a full body scan to
look for
> lymphoma
> somewhere else before doing the biopsy on the eye. Maybe I
> should go for a
> second opinion?
> 
> When they do a full body scan, they look for thick areas
of
> tissue.  These
> areas are not necessarily lymphoma...esp in FelV+ cats, it
could
> just be
> irritation in the intestine or stomach. They have to do a
biopsy to
> make
> sure.  So, potentially, if they find thick tissue, they
could do a
> biopsy,
> it could be nothing, then i would still have to do a
biopsy on the
> eye to
> find out if it is really lymphoma.  Then remove the
eye.   I don't
> know if I
> want to put him through all of that.
> 
> No real improvement today. Although he was very interested
in
> the birdies
> outside this morning which really made me smile.  Just
trying to
> enjoy each
> day I have with him.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Maria
> 
> > Maria -
> > Can they just remove the eye? Not sure if he is healthy
> enough, but I am
> > taking in an FeLV cat next week that has what they think
are
> cancerous
> > polyps around his eye - not to mention he was severely
abused
> & he cannot
> > see out of the eye anyway. They are removing the eye.
> >
> > Beth
> > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org
>  ?
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Maria  wrote:
> >
> > From: Maria 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 12:37 PM
> >
> > I had a conversation with my primary vet this morning
about
> Bernie and his
> > Uveitis/possible lymphoma.? I'm not sure what to do. I'm
> frustrated, sad,
> > angry and I feel like I'm running into walls
everywhere.? It
> seems like
> > there are never answers for these cats. It could be one
thing,
> but that is
> > a
> > symptom of something else, we could do this test, but
that
> might not tell
> > us
> > for sure what is wrong.? I keep going in circles and the
bottom
> line still
> > is my baby doesn't feel well, and I'm emotionally and
financially
> spent. I
> > want to do something to help him but I don't know what
or what
> will work.
> >
> > His activity appears to be declining each day.? Still
eating, but
> this
> > morning he didn't eat his whole bowl of food.? To find
out if it is
> > lymphoma, we could do a biopsy on the eye, but its
risky, and
> its a hard
> > area to get a good sample.? We could go to an internist
and
> have a scan
> > done
> > to see if there are any masses somewhere else in the
body.?
> Even if there
> > are, we would still have to do a biopsy to find out if
it is
> lymphoma. His
> > blood work 2 weeks ago was completely normal. I am
> continuing w/ steroid
> > drops 3x a day.
> >
> > Apparently with Uveitis there isn't usually any pain
associated
> with the
> > eye... so she didn't recommend pain medication at this
point.? I
> don't
> > think
> > he is in pain (cats can probably cover this up well
though.),
> he
> > doesn't
> > wince or anything, but he is just not acting like
himself.
> >
> > I guess we just take it day by day at this point but I
feel helpless
> like
> > I'm just letting him go.???Sorry for the rant, just
needed to type
> to get
> > my
> > thoughts out.? Thanks.
> >
> > Maria
> > ___
> > Felvtalk mailing list
> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >
>
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele
ukemia.o
> rg
> >
> >
>