[Felvtalk] Fw: URGENT! FELV+ Persian

2010-10-15 Thread gary
I am just cross posting this.  Contact info in the message below.  Please 
help if you can.


Thanks,

Gary

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Subject: URGENT! FELV+ Persian



There is a red Persian female, 3 years old, FELEUK POSITIVE BY SNAP, at 
Anti-Cruelty in Chicago, IL. PCBR is paying for an IFA to be done, but, 
if that is positive, we will need to move the cat VERY quickly as the 
shelter will put her down. Please contact me at res...@purebredcats.org 
(@purebredcats.org) if you  are willing to adopt!




Linda Pollack Mercer, M.D.
President, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue, Inc. (previously known as CFA 
Purebred Rescue, Inc)  http://purebredcats.org

Director, Operation Noble Foster, http://operationnoblefoster.org
The Persian Rescue Email list: 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Persian_Rescue/ (Moderator)
The Rescue Siamese Email List: 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RescueSiamese (Moderator)

Phone (rescue emergencies only please): (888) 303-9454 [toll free]
Email: res...@purebredcats.org  (@purebredcats.org)
Alternate email: wishs...@sbcglobal.net (@sbcglobal.net)



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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-15 Thread Natalie
It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is 
known not to be harmful to them  - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece 
yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since it 
was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on the 
market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS.  MANY CAN BE HARMFUL.  
IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO  AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.  
I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR  MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, 
THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE.  DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in Natural 
 remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
 Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

2010-10-15 Thread Natalie
Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously
compromised can be very dangerous!  I have also known friends with cats that
were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers -
coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging  was a big reason I chose to
mix.
At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old  have other medical
issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas.
Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the
Info should be looked at  each person has to make the choice they know they
can live with.

Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Brockman  teals...@hotmail.com
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone
remember that.


-Original Message-
From: Beth
Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives,
including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives  5 positives who
shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with
one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times
over the years  NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who
obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the
FeLV cats passed away.
I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision
lightly reached  I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives
cats were protected.
I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision  should be
discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives
re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, 
then let them mix.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.org

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM

I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100%
efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a
terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the
virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with
mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual
shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on
in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very
positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but
could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other
pets, vaccine or not.


-Original Message-
From: Melinda Kerr
Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and
every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for
sharing.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me.  He tested positive in
January
 of 2008.  At that time Casper was about 4 years old.  I had all my
positive
 cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of
 2008.  In July I took in another positive and in September still another
 positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem.  I kept
 all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines.  In December of 2009
 Casper started sneezing quite a bit.  He went through a round of
antibiotics
 and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on
 meds again.  Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I
 took him to the vet again.  That was when they decided to test him for
 feline leukemia.  He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010.
 I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another
 cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be
 checked out.  Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably
 positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years
with
 me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had
never
 mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive.
 I'm 

Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

2010-10-15 Thread Michelle Brockman
I know of several instances of the same thing happening Natalie in addition to 
two kittens I personally adopted devloping FIP after vaccines which is why I 
feel so strongly about vaccines. Also, there seems to be a higher occurance of 
injection site sarcomas when the felv vaccine is combined with the rabies 
vaccine. fyi


-Original Message-
From: Natalie
Sent: 10/15/2010 1:37:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously
compromised can be very dangerous!  I have also known friends with cats that
were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers -
coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging  was a big reason I chose to
mix.
At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old  have other medical
issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas.
Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the
Info should be looked at  each person has to make the choice they know they
can live with.

Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Brockman  teals...@hotmail.com
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone
remember that.


-Original Message-
From: Beth
Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives,
including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives  5 positives who
shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with
one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times
over the years  NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who
obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the
FeLV cats passed away.
I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision
lightly reached  I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives
cats were protected.
I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision  should be
discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives
re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, 
then let them mix.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! 
www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.org

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM

I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100%
efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a
terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the
virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with
mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual
shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on
in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very
positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but
could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other
pets, vaccine or not.


-Original Message-
From: Melinda Kerr
Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and
every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for
sharing.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me.  He tested positive in
January
 of 2008.  At that time Casper was about 4 years old.  I had all my
positive
 cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of
 2008.  In July I took in another positive and in September still another
 positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem.  I kept
 all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines.  In December of 2009
 Casper started sneezing quite a bit.  He went through a round of
antibiotics
 and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on
 meds again.  Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I
 took him to the vet again.  That was when they decided to test him for
 feline leukemia.  

Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

2010-10-15 Thread Natalie
My veterinarian NEVER vaccinates cats at the time of surgery,
illness...unlike many vets who insist on vaccinating no matter how ill the
cats are.Cat owners do not bother finding out which vaccines to choose
or not, depending on a cat's lifestylemany blindly accept a vet's
vaccine protocolgetting FeLV and FIV vaccines when it isn't warranted,
neither going outside or exposed to other cats who might have it.I have
yet to see a vet who adheres to the latest protocol for FVRCP instead of
yearly, every three years.  It's all about the money with many
vets.Personally, I have not have cats with injection site sarcomas, nor
from FeLV vaccines - have never used them yet.  I have only two healthy
FeLV+ cats that are very healthy.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

I know of several instances of the same thing happening Natalie in addition
to two kittens I personally adopted devloping FIP after vaccines which is
why I feel so strongly about vaccines. Also, there seems to be a higher
occurance of injection site sarcomas when the felv vaccine is combined with
the rabies vaccine. fyi


-Original Message-
From: Natalie
Sent: 10/15/2010 1:37:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously
compromised can be very dangerous!  I have also known friends with cats that
were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers -
coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging  was a big reason I chose to
mix.
At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old  have other medical
issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas.
Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the
Info should be looked at  each person has to make the choice they know they
can live with.

Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Brockman  teals...@hotmail.com
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone
remember that.


-Original Message-
From: Beth
Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives,
including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives  5 positives who
shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with
one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times
over the years  NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who
obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the
FeLV cats passed away.
I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision
lightly reached  I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives
cats were protected.
I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision  should be
discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives
re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, 
then let them mix.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Fur
kids.org

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM

I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100%
efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a
terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the
virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with
mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual
shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on
in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very
positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but
could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other
pets, vaccine or not.


-Original Message-
From: Melinda Kerr
Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I'm sorry for your loss. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines

2010-10-15 Thread Michelle Brockman




I really like the way your vet thinks and wish more had the same protocols. 
Unfortunately mine doesn't so I direct him as to my wishes for my pets when 
they have ANYTHING done in the office now so I control what is done to them. 
Knowledge really is power and I just wish there weren't so many that blindly 
trust their doctors, veterniarians and the general 'powers that be' in our 
society without educating themselves first. I had to learn this lesson the hard 
way after my cats got sick. They were vaccinated and spayed/neutered the same 
day when their immune system was now in hindsight being compromised by an 
active coronavirus mutation and the weakness allowed it to further develop into 
FIP. One had wet (Gus, who died at 9 months) and one had dry (Scout who died at 
8 months). Neither of these cats had FeLV and only received distemper and 
rabies vaccines and were 100% healthy prior to their surgeries/vaccinations. 
That's enough about that, I just hope people can benefit from my terrible 
experience. 


 
Michelle Brockman
It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be remembered 

  

 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:52:54 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
 
 My veterinarian NEVER vaccinates cats at the time of surgery,
 illness...unlike many vets who insist on vaccinating no matter how ill the
 cats are.Cat owners do not bother finding out which vaccines to choose
 or not, depending on a cat's lifestylemany blindly accept a vet's
 vaccine protocolgetting FeLV and FIV vaccines when it isn't warranted,
 neither going outside or exposed to other cats who might have it.I have
 yet to see a vet who adheres to the latest protocol for FVRCP instead of
 yearly, every three years. It's all about the money with many
 vets.Personally, I have not have cats with injection site sarcomas, nor
 from FeLV vaccines - have never used them yet. I have only two healthy
 FeLV+ cats that are very healthy.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing

2010-10-15 Thread dlgegg
it isn't that bad, i don't spend as much  as it sounds.  mostly keep them 
healthy and you don't have too many vet calls.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Man, I bet the vets love us...
 - Original Message - 
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
 
 
  MY VET ADVISED ME TO KEEP THE NEGATIVES SEPERATED UNTIL THEIR VACCINATION 
  HAD TIME TO TAKE EFFECT.  SINCE THEN, MY POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES ARE 
  MIXED.  COURSE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON SHOTS FOR THE NEGATIVES, 
  JUST TO BE SURE.  ALL OF MY CHILDREN ARE DOING WELL.  KEPING THEM APART IS 
  SO STRESSFUL EXPECIALLY IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POSITIVE.  I THINK THAT HURTS 
  THEM MORE THAN LETTING THEM MIX.  WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON EVERYONE AND WHEN 
  SOMEONE ACTS A BIT DIFFERENT, OFF TO THE VET WE GO.  THAT WAY WE CAN CATCH 
  A PROBLEM BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG.
   create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging  was a big reason I chose to 
  mix.
  At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old  have other medical 
  issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas.
  Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the 
  Info should be looked at  each person has to make the choice they know 
  they can live with.
 
  Beth
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michelle Brockman  teals...@hotmail.com
  Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
 
  Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone 
  remember that.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Beth
  Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
  I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, 
  including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives  5 positives who 
  shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room 
  with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several 
  times over the years  NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, 
  who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years 
  after the FeLV cats passed away.
  I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision 
  lightly reached  I took every initial precaution to make sure my 
  negatives cats were protected.
  I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision  should 
  be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives 
  re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week,  
  then let them mix.
  Beth
  Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.Furkids.org
 
  --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM
 
  I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 
  100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die 
  a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the 
  virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with 
  mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means 
  continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also 
  be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to 
  consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of 
  their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk 
  endangering their other pets, vaccine or not.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Melinda Kerr
  Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
  I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year 
  and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for 
  sharing.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com 
  wrote:
 
   I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me.  He tested positive in 
   January
   of 2008.  At that time Casper was about 4 years old.  I had all my 
   positive
   cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April 
   of
   2008.  In July I took in another positive and in September still 
   another
   positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem.  I 
   kept
   all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines.  In December of 
   2009
   Casper started sneezing quite a bit.  He went through a round of 
   antibiotics
   and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was 
   on

Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-15 Thread dlgegg
DEPENDS ON THE OIL, SOME LIKE TEA TREE OIL IS NOT SAFE IN ANY AMOUNT.  JUST 
BEST TO CHECK FIRST BEFORE YOU BRING ANY OF THEM INTO YOUR HOUSE.  I ONLY USE 
EUCALIPTUS, PEPPERMINT AND LAVENDER FOR MYSELF.  NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is 
 known not to be harmful to them  - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece 
 yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since 
 it was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on 
 the market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
 
 ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS.  MANY CAN BE HARMFUL. 
  IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO  AND THAT CAUSES THE 
 PROBLEM.  I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR  MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND 
 THIS OUT, THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE.  DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS 
 AND CATS.
 
 
  Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in 
  Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
  Beth
  Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
  
  
  
  

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[Felvtalk] treatment updates

2010-10-15 Thread gary

Unfortunately, these updates are not good news.

ACEMANNAN:  I used this to save several FeLV cats, it works.  Sadly, the 
company that made it - Carrington Labs - went out of business and it is no 
longer available.  On Saturday I will give the last of my Acemannan to a 
sick kitty and hope that will be enough.


STAPH PROTEIN A:  I have never had the chance to use this, but there were 
some pretty encouraging trials a few years ago and my vet got some from a 
university.  The vet said it worked very well in temporarily reversing 
anemia in Felv cats, giving them another 5 or 6 months of good health.  This 
product was never approved for the treatment of animals and is stricly used 
in biological research.  You must be a legitimate bio researcher to buy it 
and you must swear it will never get into the hands of anyone not authorized 
to use it.  So, in reality, you cannot get it.


Would the list owner please update the website about these treatments.

Gary 



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