Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results
Can you try giving something to calm him down, like Bach Flower Rescue Remedy or other available things such as PetCalm, etc? I bet some Feliway would help him too! Good luck - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi everyone, Whimsy went for his check up yesterday and we didn't put him under this time. However, he went into 'frozen' mode, and it stressed him greatly. He was very well behaved, just petrified. He is very angry, depressed, scratching on his doors to get out today. He was yowling this morning at the doors. He hasn't eaten yet today either - just sniffs and walks away. I am not a big fan of vaccines in general, and was very torn, but ended up getting him rabies only, because he is a flight risk still. I don't know if his demeanor is a 'mild' vaccine reaction, or a stress related one, or both. He does not seem to have a fever, although he's not a kitty I can easily check this on; gums are healthy color. I am deeply grateful that his blood work was perfect (did a full panel); I did repeat snap test, just in case, and the FeLV was positive still and FIV negative. His heart/lungs sound good, and his mouth, etc., look just fine as well. I just talked to my vet and she will call in a cypro rx if we need it and is available all through the weekend for us (we love her!!) (though he might be a nightmare to pill, ditto with syringe feeding). I know all the other tricks, so I will let him nap for awhile and see if I can tempt him at dinner time. wishing you and your furbabies a Merry Christmas, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results
hi Natalie and everyone! thanks for all the food suggestions!! Good news! The Whimzer has resume eating - apparently, he was just very angry and disturbed that we changed his routine. Good to know for the future. It was quite a fright though. He started eating normally this morning. Now we can truly celebrate his good bloodwork. We are so grateful for each healthy minute this boy has. It is just about a year ago that the clinic 'gave us the option' of euthanizing him just because of his positive status. I was so happy to show them all how well he was doing, and I know that he will help the staff in encouraging others to keep their FeLV babies. My vet is so open minded and is delighted to see him become a beloved indoor guy. thanks all, Merry Christmas, Shannon --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 10:28 AM Can you try giving something to calm him down, like Bach Flower Rescue Remedy or other available things such as PetCalm, etc? I bet some Feliway would help him too! Good luck - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi everyone, Whimsy went for his check up yesterday and we didn't put him under this time. However, he went into 'frozen' mode, and it stressed him greatly. He was very well behaved, just petrified. He is very angry, depressed, scratching on his doors to get out today. He was yowling this morning at the doors. He hasn't eaten yet today either - just sniffs and walks away. I am not a big fan of vaccines in general, and was very torn, but ended up getting him rabies only, because he is a flight risk still. I don't know if his demeanor is a 'mild' vaccine reaction, or a stress related one, or both. He does not seem to have a fever, although he's not a kitty I can easily check this on; gums are healthy color. I am deeply grateful that his blood work was perfect (did a full panel); I did repeat snap test, just in case, and the FeLV was positive still and FIV negative. His heart/lungs sound good, and his mouth, etc., look just fine as well. I just talked to my vet and she will call in a cypro rx if we need it and is available all through the weekend for us (we love her!!) (though he might be a nightmare to pill, ditto with syringe feeding). I know all the other tricks, so I will let him nap for awhile and see if I can tempt him at dinner time. wishing you and your furbabies a Merry Christmas, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results
Excellent news! You must be so relieved. It's so scary when they Just. Won't. Eat. and you don't know what their issue is. Season's Greetings to Whimsy and all of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2010 10:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi Natalie and everyone! thanks for all the food suggestions!! Good news! The Whimzer has resume eating - apparently, he was just very angry and disturbed that we changed his routine. Good to know for the future. It was quite a fright though. He started eating normally this morning. Now we can truly celebrate his good bloodwork. We are so grateful for each healthy minute this boy has. It is just about a year ago that the clinic 'gave us the option' of euthanizing him just because of his positive status. I was so happy to show them all how well he was doing, and I know that he will help the staff in encouraging others to keep their FeLV babies. My vet is so open minded and is delighted to see him become a beloved indoor guy. thanks all, Merry Christmas, Shannon --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 10:28 AM Can you try giving something to calm him down, like Bach Flower Rescue Remedy or other available things such as PetCalm, etc? I bet some Feliway would help him too! Good luck - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi everyone, Whimsy went for his check up yesterday and we didn't put him under this time. However, he went into 'frozen' mode, and it stressed him greatly. He was very well behaved, just petrified. He is very angry, depressed, scratching on his doors to get out today. He was yowling this morning at the doors. He hasn't eaten yet today either - just sniffs and walks away. I am not a big fan of vaccines in general, and was very torn, but ended up getting him rabies only, because he is a flight risk still. I don't know if his demeanor is a 'mild' vaccine reaction, or a stress related one, or both. He does not seem to have a fever, although he's not a kitty I can easily check this on; gums are healthy color. I am deeply grateful that his blood work was perfect (did a full panel); I did repeat snap test, just in case, and the FeLV was positive still and FIV negative. His heart/lungs sound good, and his mouth, etc., look just fine as well. I just talked to my vet and she will call in a cypro rx if we need it and is available all through the weekend for us (we love her!!) (though he might be a nightmare to pill, ditto with syringe feeding). I know all the other tricks, so I will let him nap for awhile and see if I can tempt him at dinner time. wishing you and your furbabies a Merry Christmas, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Good news
Dear all It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this amazing, wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of 4 kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a disease called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should say, we didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she was the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as she'd already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.) Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg. Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the disease, 2 on the same day. A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats, Momcat and Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7, respectively. Still resolutely feral, but healthy! Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group said they would re-test in 3 months. The lab people said: Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the result. One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless. The rescue group disregarded the advice and earlier this month I took her for a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative! Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news. I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal experience with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but remained neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained positive and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too--and both times I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing. Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in your care. love and hugs and happy holidays. Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so much in their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and the Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster mom to Sally. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Good news
Hi Kerry, I remember you from way back. So glad to see you out there and hear your story. I think I took in my first FELV cats in 2001 - Mr. Black Kitty and Calawalla Banana Booboo. Mr. Black Kitty was a double positive, and lived about a year. He was SOO skinny, but an energetic, sweet kitty. Calawalla was a calico kitten, maybe 6 mo old or so. I kept them in my living room, and one of the first things I did was put tape on the bottom of the door so that they couldn't sniff noses with my other cats. My vet told me that wasn't necessary - the virus only lived a few seconds when it hit the air, and was very fragile. I fortunately found this group, and read up on FELV and learned more. So within a couple of years, I decided that for me, it was time to mix the FELVs with the other cats, and have been doing that ever since. Calawalla died when she was about 2 yrs old. I had acquired another FELV for her - MIttens - who died died a little later. I sometimes wonder what subgroup/strain they were, and what my present FELV's are. I've got a great picture of them on a bed with my non-FELV, Shakespeare, just chillin and looking great. Anyhow, great to hear from you - Happy Holidays to you, Kerry, sending love and hugs back at ya - Gloria On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: Dear all It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this amazing, wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of 4 kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a disease called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should say, we didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she was the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as she'd already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.) Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg. Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the disease, 2 on the same day. A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats, Momcat and Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7, respectively. Still resolutely feral, but healthy! Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group said they would re-test in 3 months. The lab people said: Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the result. One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless. The rescue group disregarded the advice and earlier this month I took her for a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative! Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news. I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal experience with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but remained neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained positive and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too-- and both times I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing. Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in your care. love and hugs and happy holidays. Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so much in their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and the Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster mom to Sally. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] strains?
I sometimes wonder what subgroup/strain they were, and what my present FELV's are. I've got a great picture of them on a bed with my non-FELV, Shakespeare, just chillin and looking great Hi Gloria, Do you know if there is a way to test for the strain? I never heard of it at a regular vet, but there must be some way? I, too, wonder the same thing. I also wonder if mixing subgroups makes a difference to each others' health - ie, if a kitty with a weaker strain is mixed with a more agressive one, will this effect him? so much we don't know. I have a Shakespeare, too!! He's my FIV boy. :) Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] strains?
I've never heard of a test for subgroups but they just have it.. Hey from my baby Shakespeare! He's a sweetie ! Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: I sometimes wonder what subgroup/strain they were, and what my present FELV's are. I've got a great picture of them on a bed with my non-FELV, Shakespeare, just chillin and looking great Hi Gloria, Do you know if there is a way to test for the strain? I never heard of it at a regular vet, but there must be some way? I, too, wonder the same thing. I also wonder if mixing subgroups makes a difference to each others' health - ie, if a kitty with a weaker strain is mixed with a more agressive one, will this effect him? so much we don't know. I have a Shakespeare, too!! He's my FIV boy. :) Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results
Great news, just in time for Christmas! I wonder sometimes who suffers the most for their illness, them or us. If someone is really sick, I don't sleep well and won't eat much myself. I am always listening for sounds of distress. It is always to see them back on their feet and behaving normally. Then I can relax and enjoy myself. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: Excellent news! You must be so relieved. It's so scary when they Just. Won't. Eat. and you don't know what their issue is. Season's Greetings to Whimsy and all of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2010 10:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi Natalie and everyone! thanks for all the food suggestions!! Good news! The Whimzer has resume eating - apparently, he was just very angry and disturbed that we changed his routine. Good to know for the future. It was quite a fright though. He started eating normally this morning. Now we can truly celebrate his good bloodwork. We are so grateful for each healthy minute this boy has. It is just about a year ago that the clinic 'gave us the option' of euthanizing him just because of his positive status. I was so happy to show them all how well he was doing, and I know that he will help the staff in encouraging others to keep their FeLV babies. My vet is so open minded and is delighted to see him become a beloved indoor guy. thanks all, Merry Christmas, Shannon --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 10:28 AM Can you try giving something to calm him down, like Bach Flower Rescue Remedy or other available things such as PetCalm, etc? I bet some Feliway would help him too! Good luck - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - check up results hi everyone, Whimsy went for his check up yesterday and we didn't put him under this time. However, he went into 'frozen' mode, and it stressed him greatly. He was very well behaved, just petrified. He is very angry, depressed, scratching on his doors to get out today. He was yowling this morning at the doors. He hasn't eaten yet today either - just sniffs and walks away. I am not a big fan of vaccines in general, and was very torn, but ended up getting him rabies only, because he is a flight risk still. I don't know if his demeanor is a 'mild' vaccine reaction, or a stress related one, or both. He does not seem to have a fever, although he's not a kitty I can easily check this on; gums are healthy color. I am deeply grateful that his blood work was perfect (did a full panel); I did repeat snap test, just in case, and the FeLV was positive still and FIV negative. His heart/lungs sound good, and his mouth, etc., look just fine as well. I just talked to my vet and she will call in a cypro rx if we need it and is available all through the weekend for us (we love her!!) (though he might be a nightmare to pill, ditto with syringe feeding). I know all the other tricks, so I will let him nap for awhile and see if I can tempt him at dinner time. wishing you and your furbabies a Merry Christmas, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
i WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CAN DO SUCH A THING. I know I am a bit of a pushover when it comes to animals and children who are nt able to defend themselves from people's cruelty, but I would rather starve myself than to let my babies do without food or care. Maybe we should start a prayer chain for all those people, that they will have a change of heart. Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, my Portia came back to me (I had fostered her when she was trapped pregnant)...she was part of a group of 20 cats dumped behind a local library when her human was evicted/foreclosed on...she was in pathetic shape and we were unsure any of her kittens would survive. Long story short, I was with her when she delivered three precious little bundleswho eventually went up for adoption. Portia was deemed unadoptable because she was terrified of humans and would lash out at anyone who violated her personal spaceso she was sent by the rescue group to a sanctuary in South FL.that I was assured was wonderfulimagine my horror a month later when said sanctuary was raided and shut down by law enforcementunsanitary, no medical care, experimentationsugh. I immediately contacted the group that sent her there and told them I was going to the place the next day and they had BETTER have contacted them to arrange for me to take her back. During her month in that sanctuary she had lost another pound (she was underweight to begin with), had a broken canine and respiratory infection, and was even more traumatized than when I had first taken her in. She has been with me now just a little under a year since that dayand actually allows me to pet her now. She was NOT unadoptable...she just needed to find a home that had a bit of patience...I now consider her one of MY cats...but worry about her if something happens to me. I am only 56...but you never know how long your time on earth will be. I am busy trying to set my affairs in order that I will be able to provide for my 10 babies if I should die before them.I wish there were a sanctuary similar to Rustic Hollow here in Floridaor that I could win the lottery and start my OWN sanctuary! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:56:21 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death The trust issue is a big thing with 2 of mine. Annie went through a lot when yher owner died. i think the worst of it was not knowing what happened to her owner. she had been an only cat for 4 years, sleeping on the lady's bed, super spoiled. then she was locked up for 3 weeks with someon coming to feed and change her box. then put in a box and brought to the vet's office and then came to my house where she encontered another cat and 2 new people. she spent the first 2 weeks in the basement, sneaking pu at night to eat and drink. Nitnoy showed up with a bloody 4 stump of a tail. took her to the vet for repairs and shots and spaying and then brought her home to 7 other cats. I later found her tail in the yard and discovered it was a raccoon who did it when one showed up on the deck and looked in the window. she went balistic and nearly killed me trying to get away from him. she is still sensitive about her tail and after almost a year allows me to hold her. That is why I think a place like Rustic Hollow would be good for my girls and boy, they have a home environment to live in. I am also going to send a letter for each one telling about all their personalities, etc. I am doing the letters now just in case. I am 70 after all. I have also arranged with someone to drive them to Rustic Hollow. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
RE: parrots. People should not be allowed ot adopt them unless they uflly understand how long they live and how to properly care for them. My boss had an Amazon conyure name of Baltezar and after 6 years, it became a problem of what to do with him when he was out of town, sometimes for a month or so. I always took him home with me and that was fine until my mother passed and then Mr. B had no one to talk to all day and he became very iritable. Fortunetly, my boss knew a member of the Audobon Society who had a large greenhouse attached to his house for his parrot. He took him there and now he lives secure that he will always have a good home. When Marten passes, Mr. B. goes to another member of the A soc. Also, parrots can be destructive, very hard on woodwork. If angry, they can also inflict damage on their people. We had gotten a new typewriter and when it turned on, it made a sound Mr. B did not like and I ended up with bites on my neck, ears, fingers and spent a good part of the day sitting my chair with my feet on the wastecan with him circling like Indians around a wagon train. Only when my boss got back and took him to his perch, did he calm down. From then on, we left the typewriter turned on to avoid a repeat performance. Really, parrots, lions and tigers and wolves should not be taken as pets. They are better off left in the wild where they have the freedom to go where they want and do what they want. Unless you are willing to live according to their rules, don't get one. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Even though I have picked a person (not a family member) and provided for my guys in my will, I worry too. A lot of people want their pets killed when they dieespecially parot owners. I can't go that route. On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:45 AM, LauraM wrote: I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along
You said it, your attention. I have left and then when they all thought I was gone snuck around to a window and everyone was just a peaceful as could be. They all follow me around the house and want to be close. That is when the hissing, screaming and slapping starts. Not everyone fits on one lap and of course, no one wants the others near them. I want my own space. Back off. I am trying to work out a schedule: Homey for 1/2 hour, then Casey, on down the line till I have worked thru all 7. They still are not too sure about this kind of thing. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Natalie, I'd like to hear about your method of introductions. and I'd love to know how many cats you have. I assume you must rescue too. I have what I think is an excellent set up here. I have an entire little guest cottage attached to our house that has never housed guests other than cats :-) I have a screen door on the front and a new cat lives in there for a few weeks while the other cats look at him/her sniff, hiss etc. When I finally let the new cat out they are already well acquainted with my other cats. I also own a cageless no kill shelter in a large building I bought in town. This is also for rescued cats, who can roam through 4 large rooms furnished second hand furniture, cat condos etc. Oddly enough the cats there get along fine, so I wonder if my cats at home are fighting for my attention?? I give them all pets, kisses, bushing and lap time, but when several cats want to get on my lap at once all hell breaks loose :-( Lorrie 12-19, Natalie wrote: We probably have the largest number of cats! Everyone gets along because of the way I introduce new ones. There are a few cats who would love to be the only cat, but have learned to co-exist. They know each others' space and respect it. Once in a while, there's a little melee...nothing serious! Some make individual friends, others make group friends..a few are loners. They are so grateful to have a roof over their heads, a warm dry place to crash and plenty of food - some don't even use the outdoor enclosure(s) during the warm months! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along
Thank God we only have hissing, slapping type fights. So far. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Laura, I feel for you I had one like that! He tore up all my other cats, and it got so bad I had to keep him in one section of our house. He was about two when we rescued him and we had to do this for ten years until he finally got so old he decided he'd rather sleep than fight! Lorrie On 12-19, LauraM wrote: I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed by one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm seriously considering? rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard will literally try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be kept separate at all times - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
Hi Lorrie, If you have enough money to provide for them, may I suggest The Stevenson Center at Texas AM? http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/It is not cheap but is a safe place for pets to go and live in a home like environment, has vet students who live there, each pet has a personal wellness plan, if you are unable to care for them but still alive (nursing home or etc) you can visit. I have been there and it is a very nice place...right beside the small animal clinic. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along
Yes, it's very difficult to deal with, for me and for the other cats. Funny though, Blizzard sometimes seems afraid of other cats. For example, yesterday several of the cats were clustered around the food bowl with 3 or 4 others close by. Bliz wanted to get into the living room, but these cats were in the way. He approached the group and was obviously uncomfortable passing through it, so instead he circled around the dog's crate and into the living room, giving the group of cats a wide berth. This has happened before; it almost appears as if he's intimidated by them, yet he'll walk through the house slapping everybody in his path. I remember my vet telling me about a professor of his in vet school. This professor had a client with 2 cats, one submissive and one very aggressive. She decided to give the aggressive cat an injection of estrogen, and the submissive cat an injection of testosterone. The aggressive cat approached the other one and attacked him as usual, even though he probably wasn't feeling quite like himself due to the estrogen. The submissive cat then beat the heck out of the attacker, and they never had a problem after that! --- On Sat, 12/25/10, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 5:58 PM Thank God we only have hissing, slapping type fights. So far. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Laura, I feel for you I had one like that! He tore up all my other cats, and it got so bad I had to keep him in one section of our house. He was about two when we rescued him and we had to do this for ten years until he finally got so old he decided he'd rather sleep than fight! Lorrie On 12-19, LauraM wrote: I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed by one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm seriously considering? rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard will literally try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be kept separate at all times - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
