Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
I have had horrible experiences with collars, even though the cats did NOT go out. I thought that something was very wrong, the cat's head was at a strange angle, like a spasm, couldn't moveHe got his tooth caught on a collar.it WAS a breakaway, but it didn't break awaythis and another cat was long-haired, so one couldn't see immediately what the problem was. This happened several times - I gave up on collars with ID from then one - they can get caught in branches, under fences and strangle..Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
If the nails are white, it's easy to cut them right up to the quick, when they're dark, it's not. Usually, cut off the part that comes out and creates a thin hook. There are diagrams on where and how to in some of the do not declaw info I sent to some people who requested it. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Wonder about trimming the nails? I do my guys a lot but the vets did them once and they can be trimmed a lot shorter than I have been cutting them. On May 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws I cannot even begin to think about soft paws for my pride. I don't think I would come out of it alive. We do not like anything put on us. Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions! Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2011, at 6:27 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: And the bigger the better. Especially if they can get in safely and have at it. On May 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Natalie wrote: Any cardboard box is also great - let them destroy them, toss them,. get them new ones...sprinkle catnip inside! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Copper and Thomas like sheets (large) of Styrofoam..I have some on the floor from packaging and a couple of styrofoam insulation boards (8 foot +) leaning against a wall in the garage. A little messy but that is what vacs and brooms are for. On May 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Natalie wrote: I have known many people who used SoftPaws - it all depends on the cat and one's perseveranceno two cats are the same! The best thing to do is to trim the claws regularly and provide many scratching surfaces - some cats like vertical and others prefer horizontal. Cats usually like to scratch something after waking up and/or getting off the litter box, that's why it's a good idea to have those available near those sources. If they pick on a corner of a sofa, cover with double-sided sticky tape and place a good scratch post next to it until the cat gets used to it. Not all scratch posts are created equally! Carpet covered ones send the wrong message to cats.vertical or horizontal. The best ones are real wood, next best are covered with sisal twine woven material, and then just plain sisal rope. In a multiple-cat household, the last is the least effective because those twines are scratched apart and have to be recovered (can be done!) Using catnip on scratch posts to retrain is a good idea - and pulling a toy up the scratch post works really well! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Has anyone tried Soft Paws for their cats? I have read a few unfavorable reviews on Amazon.com, but even more favorable ones. My cats are starting to damage the persian rugs and leather carpet. My husband is threatening bodily harm if they don't stop it! Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I agree Katy. I get those notices all the time through my email from Home Again (the microchip company) that notifies lost pets in your area. My vet scans stray animals often as well. It's a great thing to have! It costs $16 a year for the membership. Lynda - Original Message - From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I have both for the dog because people are more likely to catch and check on a dog's person here. The cats are microchipped even though they are technically indoors only. Copper and Thomas travel with me and it offers protection in case of a wreckor in case Copper takes an unauthorized walk...again. People don't seem overly concerned about cats (shame). I had a problem with a break-away on Mi Tu. She hung her paw in it and it did not allow her to escape it. In fact, had I not been home, she could have strangled herself. No more collars for my cats. On May 24, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Katy Doyle wrote: I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom
Kelly, Okay, I am way full with animals over here, but I have one felv+ female who is separate from the rest of the household. She is about 8 and very healthy. I would qualify her as a carrier of the virus. She doesn't love other cats, but has been more and more interested in companionship lately. She tolerates others at this point. I might be able to help you out and put the two together. I am little hesitant to put any stress on my little healthy felv+ cat, but if you think your felv+ girl is okay with another cat and not currently exhibiting signs of the disease, I could try it. Do you know how old she is, clearly she's not spayed, or has she been now? What happened with the kittens? Any signs of anemia or opportunistic infections? Fleas, etc? Also, I live in Wisconsin. Not sure where you're at. I have some free time in July if you're not too far I could take a small road trip. Well, let me know. Jenny On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Still have this beautiful Siamese mom who is FELV+. From what I gather she is feral and that will be a death sentence if she is taken to the shelter. Anyone got any ideas on this? I am open to suggestions. I cannot take her as i have an immune suppressed cat here. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom
She has been spayed - they tested her at that time. She's asymptomatic at this time. The kittens were taken from her and I'm not quite sure their status at this moment. I will ask. I know we took 10 kittens to the Humane Society (NO KILL, we would not take them somewhere to be killed, we are just completely out of foster space). I'm sure she has or had fleas, I will ask Denis. I feel colonies with Denis but not this colony. I will forward this email to him and let him get in touch with you as he knows more than I do. THANK YOU SO MUCH for giving this baby a chance. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:58 AM, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: Kelly, Okay, I am way full with animals over here, but I have one felv+ female who is separate from the rest of the household. She is about 8 and very healthy. I would qualify her as a carrier of the virus. She doesn't love other cats, but has been more and more interested in companionship lately. She tolerates others at this point. I might be able to help you out and put the two together. I am little hesitant to put any stress on my little healthy felv+ cat, but if you think your felv+ girl is okay with another cat and not currently exhibiting signs of the disease, I could try it. Do you know how old she is, clearly she's not spayed, or has she been now? What happened with the kittens? Any signs of anemia or opportunistic infections? Fleas, etc? Also, I live in Wisconsin. Not sure where you're at. I have some free time in July if you're not too far I could take a small road trip. Well, let me know. Jenny On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Still have this beautiful Siamese mom who is FELV+. From what I gather she is feral and that will be a death sentence if she is taken to the shelter. Anyone got any ideas on this? I am open to suggestions. I cannot take her as i have an immune suppressed cat here. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic veterinarian on microchips. I will send later when I have time to look through my files... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800 997_pf.html -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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One of my rescues got a tattoo on the inside of the ear - 04, meaning the year that he was done. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would stay with the chip, not a tattoo. AC scan for chips, but someone would really have to be looking to see a tattoo on a cat. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:47 PM Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I'll keep the chip too. I think the benefits out weigh the risks. There are risks in vaccinations as well. - Original Message - From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!! But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked after!! (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie .org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That is my fear. Cats are rarely bothered with here. They are pests to be ignored or shot. But there are areas between here and Louisville where Copper and Thomas might be cared about. There is a particular concern about wrecks. They and the dog ride in carriers but they can be thrown out of first responders could need information if I was unable to provide it. Same concerns re: fires, tornadoes, etc. I've witnessed too much and these little guys (and the dog) are my life. Re tags on a collar. Bob, the dog, has a metal plate bradded to his collar. I know people with hunting dogs routinely use this instead of tags. I don't know if something similar is available for cat collars or not. Bet one could be altered. On May 24, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Beth wrote: Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that had bee= n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been 2 more= dead black cats at AC. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. tinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!! But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked after!! (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie .org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s supposed to be. On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote: My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!! But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked after!! (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
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the ACs here do scan thank goodness. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!! But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked after!! (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie .org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
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They are supposed to here and Louisville and I know a lot of vets have scanners (looking for the person of a lost dog who made the mistake of going off the farm). I can hopeand pray that the chps will help but I think I will make sure of their locations in the future. On May 24, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Beth wrote: the ACs here do scan thank goodness. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!! But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked after!! (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too big to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
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there's pluses minuses to everythging. you have to choose what's best for your situation. I don't let most of my cats out so I don't collar or chip, but for our shelter with over 300 cats to keep track of chips are a godsend Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic veterinarian on microchips. I will send later when I have time to look through my files... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800 997_pf.html -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
