Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-12 Thread katskat1
Thank you

On my way there now.

Kat

On 7/11/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Go to groups.yahoo.com  search for it. It is for individuals needing help
 with pets. No rescue groups.

 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Beth and Natalie

Thanks for the ideas.  I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish
List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it?

I didn't want to beg, if feels weird but if these kids need it I
guess I can learn.  My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a
small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing.  Her office is in an
old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets
behind it for paperwork.  Surgery is done in a small room in the
basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc.  Sounds
hookie but she does good work.  And she cares.  Asking the $ be sent
directly to her is perfect!  I may give it a shot.

Kat

On 7/10/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about
 anything!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

 Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group.
 Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on
 payments.

 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
 She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.

I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.

Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
quality of whatever life she has

Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.

kat

On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look
 like he is pantingand he does look adorable.  Sorry to give any
 other impression.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote:

 The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth.
 We have
 quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the
 side of
 their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in
 front -
 and looks adorable.  We have some real oldtimers here - started out
 feral
 and are mushes now.
 Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful  I am
 always
 surprised how toothless cats just love dry food!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

 Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live
 trapped for neutering.  The vet called me after they put him
 under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth.
 She checked his teeth and they were totally awful.  Most of them were
 pulled.  The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of
 the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing
 his opinion.  He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the
 clan and is so handsome.  He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and
 is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most
 of the time.  He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and
 others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous
 cats.  Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not
 quantity of his life.   As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+.
 On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:

 Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses
 in a bad
 mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of
 the body's
 systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all
 of their
 babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

 Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I
 

[Felvtalk] Prices of drugs...

2011-07-12 Thread Natalie
Remember we were talking about prices of drugs, markups, etc?
Check this out: http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/generic.asp 
I have a version with photographs of drugs and more information, but it's
too many KB to send to the group (limit is 20KB) - if anyone wants the big
version, let me know.
This is just the confirmation on snopes and does have a great info chart!
Natalie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Prices of drugs...

2011-07-12 Thread MaiMaiPG
AAA has a drug discount program that includes animal meds.  Not sure  
of all the details but, for members, it is worth looking at.

On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Natalie wrote:


Remember we were talking about prices of drugs, markups, etc?
Check this out: http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/generic.asp
I have a version with photographs of drugs and more information, but  
it's
too many KB to send to the group (limit is 20KB) - if anyone wants  
the big

version, let me know.
This is just the confirmation on snopes and does have a great info  
chart!

Natalie



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[Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-12 Thread Georgetta Brickey

Hi!
 
I usually just lurk on this list, but had to share a short story from the 
recent past.
 
We have a set of security screen doors on our front door and tend to leave the 
interior solid door open for cooling breezes, sometimes all night in warm 
weather.  There is a tiny 1/4 in. gap at the bottom of the screen doors.  One 
morning I walked out and found a lizard tail (just the tail) on the rug just 
inside the front door.  Apparently a lizard came exploring under the door and 
one of our family felines got into some midnight mischief.   Hope the rest of 
the lizard got back outside, but it was a bit of a shock to pick up the 
string then realize it was a 6-7 inch lizard tail first thing in the a.m.  A 
real wake up experience!
 
Georgetta in Ventura, CA  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-12 Thread MaiMaiPG
Copper and Thomas like to go to the garage to hunt---farm, lizards,  
snakes etc come in and need to be removed from the genetic pool---cats  
have occupied the house for too long for them to have an excuse for  
coming in.  I usually leave the door to the garage open so the boys  
can come and go.  They love to bring me their trophies and will even  
bring them into our bedroommore often alive than dead.  I tell  
them how proud I am of them and their hunting skills--and I really  
am.  Then I take their trophies out to show all the world how great  
they are.  Cats...aren't they great?

On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Georgetta Brickey wrote:



Hi!

I usually just lurk on this list, but had to share a short story  
from the recent past.


We have a set of security screen doors on our front door and tend to  
leave the interior solid door open for cooling breezes, sometimes  
all night in warm weather.  There is a tiny 1/4 in. gap at the  
bottom of the screen doors.  One morning I walked out and found a  
lizard tail (just the tail) on the rug just inside the front door.   
Apparently a lizard came exploring under the door and one of our  
family felines got into some midnight mischief.   Hope the rest of  
the lizard got back outside, but it was a bit of a shock to pick up  
the string then realize it was a 6-7 inch lizard tail first thing  
in the a.m.  A real wake up experience!


Georgetta in Ventura, CA
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[Felvtalk] litter - chicken feed

2011-07-12 Thread Georgetta Brickey

Hi,
 
I use laying hen pellets (chicken feed) in the litter boxes for my bottle 
babies.  I learned about it from orphan kittens list @ yahoo.com a few years 
ago.  The poster suggested using the laying hen crumble, but I found that the 
pellets work better for me.  They look sort of like yesterday's news or feline 
pine, but smell like grain and are yellow in color.  
 
The cost here is about $15 for a 50 pound bag and you can flush or compost it 
(remove the solids (poops) first).  It doesn't clump hard, but it does cling 
together enough to get a scoop under.  My adults and older kittens prefer 
regular clumping litter, but for the babies just learning to use the litter box 
it is just purrfect!  If they eat a bit of it accidentally, it's no big deal!  
You can easily pick up stray pellets and it isn't very dusty.  I recycle my 
Tidycat pails to store it.  The lids have good seals so any moths aren't able 
to get out.  A 50# bag just about fills 2 of the biggest (35-38#) yellow 
Tidycat pails.
 
Georgetta in Ventura, CA  
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