Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Maureen Olvey
Also, there's that group that is doing the research about how long a rabies 
vaccine is actually good for.  Their website has lots of info too like about 
the rodents not carrying rabies and why.  It also talks about things like that 
the rabies virus can be in an animal's system for months but it's only 
contagious at the very last stage when the animal starts going beserk.  At that 
last stage the animal will die in less than 10 days.  That's why if your dog 
bites someone they only have a 10 day quarantine period.  I learned a lot from 
that one website.  Wish I could remember the name of the group but I'm sure if 
you google rabies it will come up.

 From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:26:49 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 Oh, Thank you for the info. I'm going to do some reading on this(-:
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
 2010. 
 
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
  They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
  East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
  sick or not.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
  
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
  2010. 
  
  On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  
  The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
  after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
  brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
  rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
  heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
  region of raccoons carrying rabies!
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  
  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
  live in
  th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
  pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
  
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
  case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
  vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
  Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
  if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
  than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
  been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
  then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Maureen Olvey
What's funny is only a very very small population of the animals actually have 
rabies.  The Bat Conservation website said that less than 1% of bats are 
actually carrying the virus at any one time.  Course rabies is fatal and there 
is no cure or treatment once the virus is past a certain point so it is 
something that has to be taken seriously.  But still the lack of knowledge has 
made people hate and fear some of the animals like raccoons and bats.  Here in 
GA as soon as I mention the raccoons coming around and eating my feral cat's 
food I hear Oh raccoons carry rabies and you have to stay away from them.  
It's crazy the number of people that have said that to me.There's the 
assumption that most raccoons carry rabies.  There was this guy that was 
feeding one of my feral cats during the week because he worked at the business 
where the cat was at.  He said one day a raccoon came up to their open 
warehouse door and looked in and everyone just knew the raccoon had rabies.  I 
explained that raccoons are curious and just because you saw one in the daytime 
it didn't mean it had rabies.  But his boss wanted him to move the feeding 
station so that the raccoons would not be coming near them.  Actually he told 
the guy not to feed the cat anymore but we got around that.  Point being that 
one glance at a raccoon in the daytime struck fear in those men.

 From: maima...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 17:59:59 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 According to Fish and Wildlife, there is no way to treat wild  
 raccoonsno comment.
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:56 PM, GRAS wrote:
 
  That's right, and looking at them, you can't tell which it is - but  
  without
  treatment, it kills them just like rabies does.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:13 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
  To make matters worse, raccoons get canine distemper which a lot of  
  people
  assume is rabies and...
  On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS wrote:
 
  Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
  They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in
  the East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were
  killed, whether sick or not.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
  Baronda
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
  Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
 
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,
  Christmas 2010.
 
  On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by  
  hunters,
  after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so
  they brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
  I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other
  rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the
  heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest
  region of raccoons carrying rabies!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I
  live in
  th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that
  can pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i
  I don't.
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in
  case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
  vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
  Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see
  if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last  
  longer
  than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research
  studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
  been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination
  and then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2012-01-06 Thread Lorrie
On 01-05, Marcia Baronda wrote: 

 That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the
 wildlife should be armed!

I agree with you on that one.  I detest hunters!
Lorrie


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Lorrie
Where we live, in the mountains of WV, they drop bait from low flying
aircraft. This is oral rabies vaccine for the raccoons to eat. They
haven't done this for several years, but did at one time. I have no
idea how sucessful it was.

Lorrie

On 01-05, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 According to Fish and Wildlife, there is no way to treat wild  
 raccoonsno comment.


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Marcia Baronda
I'm going to look for that website. Knowledge is power, isn't it? That's why I 
am here(: the CDC has some info too. I have Dr Don Hamiltons book on 
Homeopathy. And a couple other homeopathic books. They all say that the rabies 
vaccine lasts for quite a good while, along with paneleukopenia vaccine. It's 
all very fascinating, what we are told and what the truth is! 

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On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Also, there's that group that is doing the research about how long a rabies 
 vaccine is actually good for.  Their website has lots of info too like about 
 the rodents not carrying rabies and why.  It also talks about things like 
 that the rabies virus can be in an animal's system for months but it's only 
 contagious at the very last stage when the animal starts going beserk.  At 
 that last stage the animal will die in less than 10 days.  That's why if your 
 dog bites someone they only have a 10 day quarantine period.  I learned a lot 
 from that one website.  Wish I could remember the name of the group but I'm 
 sure if you google rabies it will come up.
 
  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:26:49 -0600
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  Oh, Thank you for the info. I'm going to do some reading on this(-:
  
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
  2010. 
  
  On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  
   Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
   They hunters did that in the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
   East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, 
   whether
   sick or not.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
   Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
   
   Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
   
   Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
   2010. 
   
   On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
   
   The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
   after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
   brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
   Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
   
   I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
   rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
   heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
   region of raccoons carrying rabies!
   
   Sent from my iPhone
   
   On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
   
   My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
   live in
   th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
   pass rabbies on. I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
    Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
   I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
   and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
   
   On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
   case I didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
   vaccinations will provide immunity for at least 4 years. 
   Interesting huh? I need to check out that group again to see 
   if they've found anything else out or if it actually last longer 
   than the 4 years even. I know they were doing more research studies.
   Will most vets give the 3 year one to a kitten? Most vets I've 
   been to recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
   then the next year they get the 3 year one.
   
   
   
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