You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about
this. It is NOT a good thing to do.
People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and
Also: http://www.*pawproject*.*org*/ http://www.pawproject.org/
Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle,
except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws. So it's really
like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick
up
I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw
my cats.
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
You declawed your cat? I
thanks everyone for the information. i know it is wrong and i no longer do it
to my animals, the last one i did was over 5 years ago and he has long sinced
passed. I felt horrible once i had seen what they really do. Thanks for the
reminding information.
When I first joined the animal welfare movement, I was and still am an animal
rights activist, vegan by ethics and choice. I was treated by some as if I
were a terrorist, barely tolerated by them, feared by others, ignored by still
others. Finally, one of the fearful people asked me what
Janine, 1st thank you for helping all these cats and kittens in such a
responsible manner. Here is the link to a chart I have found very helpful in
explaining testing for FeLV
http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html
As I understand it the IFA test requires the virus to be in the kittens
During the years of concentration camps, very few babies were born to the women
who were being tortured there, even though rape was rampant. It wasn't that
they turned off their reproductive system because it was a legitimate rape
but because below a certain nutritional level, the body of a
Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I
have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then
she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they
were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and
Tell me about being treated as a terrorist! It has become much better now, as
far as the general population goes, however, AETA, that’s another wonderful
thing…. (Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act of 2006, passed by only six members,
under GWB, and the only one who voted against it was
Did your vet recommend it?
I know that Bainfield Health, the veterinary Group with Petsmart, has a
package deal on kitten health (DUH), that includes declawing! I wrote to
them and got a really stupid letter back - I will post it sometime - just
unbelievable!
From: Felvtalk
Natalie,
The pounds/shelters have a higher profile than do rescuers. If they
sincerely implement the No Kill Equation, they can save over 90% of their
intake, including those animals brought in or dumped by the minority of the
public that is irresponsible. Until they do so, however, they are
Hey guys not to get off from subject butI was interested in what everyone
thinks about the Presidential Canidates, is their a reason why one should
choose one over the other? Obama pledges support for nearly every animal
protection bill currently pending in Congress, and says he will work with
I think this topic should be off limits here.
Terri
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From: Joslin Pottermailto:joslinir...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] President
Hey guys not
The Jains eat only things that fall from the plants, so the plants don't
get killed. After I read this, I quit eating root veggies. On the other
hand, they do not believe in keeping pets, much along the lines of PeTA,
except they don't kill them.
Have you seen this book? It may be a key to
Thanks, it's okay. He had FeLV and we did everything we could to keep him
alive, he lived over four years with the disease. I was so proud of him, and
happy that we got a chance to have him in our family.
From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
To:
Declawing can also result in litterbox issues
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I
have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws,
then
As a matter of fact I had set up an appointment with my vet for a fm cat we
have and they offered it at a discount if i did it together. I'm going to be
honest I don't see much of a difference from the declaw cat and the one that is
not. As long as they have posts and one takes the time to let
Sorry Terri I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was just curious I'm so confused
on who to vote for, and everyone is saying something different.
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:51 AM
Fruitarians – fruit fall off when ripe, eat only raw foods.
I eat root vegetables, too much nutrition in them not to, especially beets – I
couldn’t live without them.
There are actually people who live on energy (Hunzas) – breatherians!
Yes, I’ve heard of the book! Good idea – it’s
I just think that there are too many varied opinions to discuss politics here.
That's all. There is a risk of causing offense -- we are all so very different
people, and not all of us believe the same things.
I think that the best thing to do is to read both candidate's platform. Decide
Not sure I could make my own soy milk. I don't much like milk with cat fur in
it. I have almost 40 cats here at any given time, mostly elderly or socially
or physically handicapped and I can't keep them off counters. My house was not
well organized due to a little mistake in planning.
Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:53 AMI get the same response from hostile people.
Trees and vegetables are
living things so you can't eat that either. Well, I will never be seen
munching on a tree. I'm not a woodpecker but my idea is that I never
eat anything that had a face or could move on
Lee, my cat population beats yours! There’s no cat fur in the milk I make –
see all the soy milk makers that are available:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=imagefr=goodsearch-yhsifva=Soy+milk+maker
Why is that? I believe that people can have different opinions yet still be
friends and get along and discuss their differences nicely. I am liberal in
some things but conservative in others, I do not vote based on party
affiliation, I vote based on what that one particular candidate has to
I've had family members BASH me for my beliefs. So I prefer not to discuss
politics, especially with people who don't really know me.
T
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From: Edna Taylormailto:taylore...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent:
I'm sorry to hear that, I've been taking it from people on facebook as I am
just trying to understand what each of them is for. For me it's healthcare,
that is what intrests me the most however, when it comes to people like Mike
Vick, there need to be better laws put into place, i just wondered
True enough.
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From: Edna Taylormailto:taylore...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
I would never bash someone for their beliefs because
I agree. I know that we are all from different states and backgrounds, that is
why i am curious i know what it is like hear in Michigan... I would never judge
anyone...
From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday,
Thanks for sharing that with us because I have wondered how someone in the
healthcare industry felt about it. Speaking from the perspective of someone
whose husband lost his job 3 days before Christmas in 2008 and all of the
promises made by the current administration to help with mortgages,
Stupid ideas from stupid people! Sorry, I hate to sound so judgemental, but
seriously? Killed all the cats? That makes me sick.
Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010.
On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thursday,
Without endorsing either candidate here's some thoughts I had on deciding
between the candidates: I don't think either candidate will directly influence
animal cruelty laws or humane practice laws. They've got too much else to
worry about, especially right now. Even if they love animals it
That is pretty insane that they all had to die. BTW, I find it interesting that
now people are against eating plants, how do these people live? What do they
eat? your right people are not going to stop eating meat, people have been
eating meat since the dark ages, Tribes that still live in the
I agree with Terri. This list was set up to discuss ill kitties. NOT politics
and hunting. There are other groups dedicated to those topics.
In the meantime how about helping out Bella. That is what this group is for
JMHO
Sharyl
From: Joslin Potter
Thanks, Maureen. That was well stated you made very valid points. Thanks for
your opinion :). By the way, I don't care for either candidate. All politicians
lie I feel like I have to vote for the lesser of two evils, in my opinion.
Thanks again, Maureen!
L
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
One brief thing... The Obama Care we now have is not even close to
the way he wanted it. He had to make too many concessions to the Republicans
who really screwed it up. My opinion - and you can guess who I'll vote for.
Lorrie
On 10-04, Terri Brown wrote:
Well, I have a different
Lee, We think alike. Humans are the main cause of most of the
problems on earth! Too bad we have to keep feeding hunters, irresponsible
pet owners, polluters, and other jerks like this.
Lorrie
On 10-04, Lee Evans wrote:
During the years of concentration camps, very few babies
Edna,
Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom
didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how
I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home
injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here.
If my mom saw how
Actually, people started eating meat when the Ice Age came, they had to
become hunters because they used to be mostly gatherers when the climate was
conducive, and I'm sure that occasionally, they would hunt, too.
There are people who actually live on only raw foods, fruit. Some of the
Hunzas
My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved
dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we
had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
Actually very simple: Romney's dog on top of the car and Obama's dog inside
the car.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
Without
Good point Natalie. The way they are being reared is a huge problem. I live in
cattle country. I know that animals are only valued for dollars. I hear a lot
listening to farmers, I don't say anything, that way I learn more about that
mentality. I hugely detest gestation crates for pigs, who so
Lorrie,
Me too(:
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
One brief thing... The Obama Care we now have is not even close to
the way he wanted it. He had to make too many concessions to the Republicans
who really screwed it up. My
I don't know where you heard that Lorrie, but it's not true.
Terri
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From: Lorriemailto:felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major issue in
this election and I also agree that the economy is the major issue that impacts
our rescues and other people's companion animals the most. Then I look at the
incumbent and see a man who was trussed up like a chicken
In addition, our teeth are not those of carnivores. We have teeth similar to
other primates. We can't tear into our food. We chomp like a chimp. Our
teeth are suited to nuts, seeds, grains, fruit, leaves, tubers and roots. When
we try to shred meat, even the most tender steak or well
Don't fret Elizabeth. Occasionally we get a little off topic but we soon get
back on the road. Just like you would take a journey and have to pull over to
the shoulder of the road to allow your car to cool down we do the same here.
We all have different opinions and sometimes we just like to
I have been with this list since my kitten developed Feline Leukemia in 2006. I
have seen it go way off topic and people that have been invaluable leave. I
realize I don’t post often, but as I am with many animal groups I do send
people that are struggling. It was most disheartening to know
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