Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[zoephotomodel]

the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet 
that we have here in Tampa.
 

 

 

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Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
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I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.

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 On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
 
 My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
 from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
 and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
 better care for her than she would get from a traditional
 vet. 
 Just my experience...
 
 Chris C.
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
vets 
for felv 
 What are your thoughts on this?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

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Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.

I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
need. The time you have is all good then :)

 

 

 

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From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
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Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties


Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
 
 We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
 
 I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 
 
 We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.
 
 Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.
 
 We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
 
 Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
of making a fundraising page for them also. 
 
 
 https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[zoephotomodel]

good news!
 

 

 

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Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 5:58 pm
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Immunofluorescence Antibody Assay. Generally speaking, if a cat tests positive 
on an IFA, it means that the cat will be positive for life. I’ve never done an 
IFA for Ember, but I feel pretty confident that she’d test positive, as she had 
a number of positive ELISAs. 


There’s more information (than you might want to know) in this PDF:


http://www.catvets.com/public/PDFs/PracticeGuidelines/RetrovirusGLS.pdf


Ember has been living with the virus for at least eight years—just another 
reminder that FeLV+ status is not a “death sentence”. 


Best hopes for the sister and brother.


Lance


On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Lori Taddonio ltad...@aol.com wrote:



Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and 
they both tested positive. Thanks for your help.

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On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:


I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best info 
for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. FIND 
SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA next step.
I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the same 
food dishes.
Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
like death warmed over!
I hope that this helps~

 Janda like panda

 

 

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Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties






Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx one 
year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   

We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or worse 
luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.

I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 

We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.


Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it 
but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.


We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 


Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of 
making a fundraising page for them also. 


https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925


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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. 
I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last 
month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't 
even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No one 
cares.

I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for 
constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now 
and things are much different. 

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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
 couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
 sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
 life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
 medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
 choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
 
 I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
 knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
 need. The time you have is all good then :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
 her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
 healthy 
 until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
 any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy 
 as 
 can be.  Who k
 nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
 been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
  Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
 one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
 has 
 mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
 and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
  
  We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
 worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
 isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
 negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
  
  I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
 crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
 Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
 out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
 quite a few turn neg. 
  
  We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of 
  my 
 own pocket last month and can't do that again.
  
  Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly 
  do 
 it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
 benefit.
  
  We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
  
  Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm 
  thinking 
 of making a fundraising page for them also. 
  
  
  https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the cats and 
buy cat litter.  

We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended euth on 
the basis of one positive test.   The price is of a test is $32. 

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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:33 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet 
 that we have here in Tampa.
 
 
 
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 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
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  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

I used to have care credit before I had to declare bk after I became disabled 
and went on social security disability. My vet takes it with a minimum charge 
of $200.  Seriously doubt they will approve me again and if they did I'd just 
be digging a deeper hole.  

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 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most 
 of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to 
 take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try 
 to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, 
 that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
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 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[lernermichelle]

I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and sharing 
the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us are flat 
out and caring for many animals too. 

Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look at 
Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an echocardiogram 
for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a link with an 
explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on Facebook. She raised 
the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in years donated. You are 
more likely to get donations from people who like animals but are not rescuers 
themselves (and therefore are not already spending all their money on animals).

Michelle

 

 

 

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Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties



The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. 
I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last 
month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't 
even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No one 
cares.


I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for 
constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now 
and things are much different. 

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On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:



Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.

I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
need. The time you have is all good then :)

 

 

 

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From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties


Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
 
 We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
 
 I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 
 
 We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.
 
 Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.
 
 We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
 
 Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
of making a fundraising page for them also. 
 
 
 https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Margo]

Where are you? Maybe we can find someone who can take the cats.
Margo
-Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Mar 15, 2014 8:42 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the cats and buy cat litter. We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended euth on the basis of one positive test. The price is of a test is $32. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:33 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:  the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet that we have here in Tampa.-Original Message- From: Kelley  To: felvtalk  Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv  I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.  Sent from my iPhone   On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote:My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and  traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is  better care for her than she would get from a traditional  vet.   Just my experience...Chris C.-Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets  for felv   What are your thoughts on this?Sent from my iPhone___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org  ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Hi Michelle, 

They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 

I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 

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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
 sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
 are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
 
 Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
 at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
 echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
 link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
 Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
 years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
 animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
 spending all their money on animals).
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
 them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
 last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
 can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
 one cares.
 
 I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
 was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet 
 for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi 
 now and things are much different. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
 couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
 sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
 life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
 medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
 choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
 
 I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
 knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
 need. The time you have is all good then :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
 in 
 her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
 healthy 
 until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
 or 
 any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy 
 as 
 can be.  Who k
 nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
 always 
 been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
  Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, 
  approx 
 one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
 has 
 mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
 pos 
 and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
  
  We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
 worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
 isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
 negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
  
  I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
 crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
 Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
 turned 
 out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
 quite a few turn neg. 
  
  We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of 
  my 
 own pocket last month and can't do that again.
  
  Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly 
  do 
 it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
 benefit.
  
  We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next 
  Wednesday. 
  
  Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm 
  thinking 
 of making a fundraising page for them also. 
  
  
  https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
  
  
  Sent from my 

Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[cerwin]

Yes, sadly they are not cheap.

Chris C.


-Original Message- 
From: Kelley

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:

My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments

from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
better care for her than she would get from a traditional
vet.
Just my experience...

Chris C.

-Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
traditional vets for felv

What are your thoughts on this?

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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[gbl...@aristotle.net]

So fundraising page is at 
https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925



Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michelle, 
 
 They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
 folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
 discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
 
 I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
 sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
 are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
 
 Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
 at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
 echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
 link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
 Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
 years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
 animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
 spending all their money on animals).
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
 them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
 last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
 can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
 one cares.
 
 I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
 I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
 vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on 
 ssdi now and things are much different. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
 couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
 my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
 for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
 other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
 which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
 
 I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
 who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
 babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
 in 
 her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
 healthy 
 until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
 or 
 any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
 healthy as 
 can be.  Who k
 nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
 always 
 been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
  Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, 
  approx 
 one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
 has 
 mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
 pos 
 and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
  
  We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
 worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive 
 kitties 
 isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
 negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
  
  I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
 crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
 Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
 turned 
 out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd 
 had 
 quite a few turn neg. 
  
  We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of 
  my 
 own pocket last month and can't do that again.
  
  Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly 
  do 
 it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
 benefit.
  
  We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next 
  Wednesday. 
  
  Below is their fundraising 

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Yes that's correct. If you could share it I'd appreciate it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:55 AM, gbl...@aristotle.net gbl...@aristotle.net 
 wrote:
 
 So fundraising page is at 
 https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michelle, 
 
 They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
 folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
 discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
 
 I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
 sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
 are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
 
 Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
 at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
 echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
 link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
 Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
 years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
 animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
 spending all their money on animals).
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
 them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
 last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
 can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  
 No one cares.
 
 I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
 I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
 vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm 
 on ssdi now and things are much different. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
 couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
 my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
 for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
 other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
 which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
 
 I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
 who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
 babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
 
 Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
 in 
 her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
 healthy 
 until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
 or 
 any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
 healthy as 
 can be.  Who k
 nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
 always 
 been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
  Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
  Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, 
  approx 
 one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine 
 but has 
 mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
 pos 
 and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
  
  We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better 
  or 
 worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive 
 kitties 
 isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
 negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
  
  I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it 
  is 
 crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate 
 euthanization. 
 Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
 turned 
 out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd 
 had 
 quite a few turn neg. 
  
  We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out 
  of my 
 own pocket last month and can't do that again.
  
  Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would 
  gladly do 
 it but it was an older 

Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most 
 of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to 
 take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try 
 to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, 
 that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Gloria B. Lane]

Good grief!  26% is beyond high.


On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most 
 of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need 
 to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and 
 try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some 
 extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
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[Kelley]

Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   But 
they do have a 6 month interest free option.  

Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It is 
35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 

I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely 
 need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated 
 quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, 
 to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Gloria B. Lane]

I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.


On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   
 But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It 
 is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely 
 need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated 
 quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, 
 to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Jennifer Lewis]

That's EXTORTION and PREDATORY
On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely 
 need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated 
 quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, 
 to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Jennifer Lewis]

Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where are 
you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance...
On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   
 But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It 
 is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is 
 only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You 
 definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems 
 treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that 
 I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

Alabama

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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where 
 are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance...
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
 
 I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   
 But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. 
 It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is 
 only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You 
 definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems 
 treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond 
 that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic 
  and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

And thanks for sharing. I'm working on a fb page for them now. Hopefully I can 
raise enough money for the supplements and stuff I know the holistic vet will 
recommend and some extra for emergencies, cancer tx if necessary, etc

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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where 
 are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance...
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
 
 I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   
 But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. 
 It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is 
 only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You 
 definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems 
 treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond 
 that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
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 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic 
  and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Lorrie]

Kelley, I can certainly understand your dilema. Some FelV cats never 
get sick, but if they do you will have a lot of veterinary expense.  
Our lost cost clinic isn't cheap either, and if you are struggling
just to buy cat food and litter I hope you can rehome the FelV cats. 

Lorrie

On 03-15, Kelley wrote:
I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the
cats and buy cat litter.
 
We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended
euth on the basis of one positive test.   The price is of a test is
$32.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Lorrie]

On 03-15, Kelley wrote:
Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.
Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way.

Yes the interest is terrible if you don't pay the loan off during
the alloted interest free time. I just paid off my daughters $930.
Care Credit account to keep her from having to pay that interest.
She has 20 rescued cats.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

[Kelley]

Sometimes we get enough in donations to cover food and litter for several 
months.   If not I have to cover it out of pocket which is where things get 
dicey.   When possible I feed diamond indoor hair ball control kibble which is 
at least corn and wheat free.  I know the first thing this vet is going to want 
to do is put them on raw which can be cheaper but that's after I buy a meat 
grinder.   The diamond kibble is $125 a month for all cats. Otherwise they get 
what I can afford.   Rehoming is a possibility but I'd like at this point to 
continue to raise funds and see how that works out. 

I've been on this list for many years - had a false alarm scare with a kitten 8 
years ago or so.  Was hoping to never really need it though. 



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 On Mar 15, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Kelley, I can certainly understand your dilema. Some FelV cats never 
 get sick, but if they do you will have a lot of veterinary expense.  
 Our lost cost clinic isn't cheap either, and if you are struggling
 just to buy cat food and litter I hope you can rehome the FelV cats. 
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 03-15, Kelley wrote:
   I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the
   cats and buy cat litter.
 
   We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended
   euth on the basis of one positive test.   The price is of a test is
   $32.
 
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