Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Sometimes we get enough in donations to cover food and litter for several months. If not I have to cover it out of pocket which is where things get dicey. When possible I feed diamond indoor hair ball control kibble which is at least corn and wheat free. I know the first thing this vet is going to want to do is put them on raw which can be cheaper but that's after I buy a meat grinder. The diamond kibble is $125 a month for all cats. Otherwise they get what I can afford. Rehoming is a possibility but I'd like at this point to continue to raise funds and see how that works out. I've been on this list for many years - had a false alarm scare with a kitten 8 years ago or so. Was hoping to never really need it though. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Lorrie wrote: > > Kelley, I can certainly understand your dilema. Some FelV cats never > get sick, but if they do you will have a lot of veterinary expense. > Our lost cost clinic isn't cheap either, and if you are struggling > just to buy cat food and litter I hope you can rehome the FelV cats. > > Lorrie > >> On 03-15, Kelley wrote: >> I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the >> cats and buy cat litter. >> >> We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended >> euth on the basis of one positive test. The price is of a test is >> $32. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Kelley, I can certainly understand your dilema. Some FelV cats never get sick, but if they do you will have a lot of veterinary expense. Our lost cost clinic isn't cheap either, and if you are struggling just to buy cat food and litter I hope you can rehome the FelV cats. Lorrie On 03-15, Kelley wrote: >I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the >cats and buy cat litter. > >We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended >euth on the basis of one positive test. The price is of a test is >$32. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
On 03-15, Kelley wrote: >Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. >Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Yes the interest is terrible if you don't pay the loan off during the alloted interest free time. I just paid off my daughters $930. Care Credit account to keep her from having to pay that interest. She has 20 rescued cats. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
And thanks for sharing. I'm working on a fb page for them now. Hopefully I can raise enough money for the supplements and stuff I know the holistic vet will recommend and some extra for emergencies, cancer tx if necessary, etc Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: > > Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where > are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance... >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: >> >> I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. >> >> >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: >>> >>> Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. >>> But they do have a 6 month interest free option. >>> >>> Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. >>> It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. >>> >>> I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a >>> Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: Good grief! 26% is beyond high. > On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: > > Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. > Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is >> only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. >> >> Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. >> People have had mixed experiences with them. >> >> I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. >> Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You >> definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems >> treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond >> that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. >> >> Michelle >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kelley >> To: felvtalk >> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv >> >> I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: >> > >> > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic >> > and >> traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments >> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable >> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is >> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional >> > vet. >> > Just my experience... >> > >> > Chris C. >> > >> > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 >> > 8:01 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs >> traditional vets >> for felv >> > What are your thoughts on this? >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mai
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Alabama Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: > > Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where > are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance... >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: >> >> I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. >> >> >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: >>> >>> Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. >>> But they do have a 6 month interest free option. >>> >>> Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. >>> It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. >>> >>> I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a >>> Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: Good grief! 26% is beyond high. > On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: > > Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. > Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is >> only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. >> >> Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. >> People have had mixed experiences with them. >> >> I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. >> Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You >> definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems >> treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond >> that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. >> >> Michelle >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kelley >> To: felvtalk >> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv >> >> I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: >> > >> > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic >> > and >> traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments >> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable >> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is >> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional >> > vet. >> > Just my experience... >> > >> > Chris C. >> > >> > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 >> > 8:01 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs >> traditional vets >> for felv >> > What are your thoughts on this? >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fel
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance... On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. > > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: > >> Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. >> But they do have a 6 month interest free option. >> >> Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It >> is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. >> >> I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a >> Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: >> >>> Good grief! 26% is beyond high. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: >>> Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is > only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. > > Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. > People have had mixed experiences with them. > > I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. > Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You > definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems > treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that > I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. > > Michelle > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > > I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and > traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > > vet. > > Just my experience... > > > > Chris C. > > > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 > > 8:01 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs > traditional vets > for felv > > What are your thoughts on this? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's EXTORTION and PREDATORY On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > Good grief! 26% is beyond high. > > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: > >> Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. >> Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only >>> for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. >>> >>> Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People >>> have had mixed experiences with them. >>> >>> I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. >>> Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely >>> need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated >>> quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, >>> to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. >>> >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kelley >>> To: felvtalk >>> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv >>> >>> I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: >>> > >>> > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and >>> traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments >>> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable >>> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is >>> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional >>> > vet. >>> > Just my experience... >>> > >>> > Chris C. >>> > >>> > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 >>> > PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional >>> vets >>> for felv >>> > What are your thoughts on this? >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea. On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote: > Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. > But they do have a 6 month interest free option. > > Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It > is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. > > I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a > Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > >> Good grief! 26% is beyond high. >> >> >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: >> >>> Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. >>> Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >>> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People have had mixed experiences with them. I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > vet. > Just my experience... > > Chris C. > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 > 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > What are your thoughts on this? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes that was just for whoever said the interest rate was low. It is not. But they do have a 6 month interest free option. Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > > Good grief! 26% is beyond high. > > >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: >> >> Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. >> Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only >>> for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. >>> >>> Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People >>> have had mixed experiences with them. >>> >>> I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. >>> Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely >>> need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated >>> quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, >>> to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. >>> >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kelley >>> To: felvtalk >>> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv >>> >>> I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: >>> > >>> > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and >>> traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments >>> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable >>> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is >>> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional >>> > vet. >>> > Just my experience... >>> > >>> > Chris C. >>> > >>> > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 >>> > PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional >>> vets >>> for felv >>> > What are your thoughts on this? >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Good grief! 26% is beyond high. On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote: > Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. > Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > >> Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only >> for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. >> >> Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People >> have had mixed experiences with them. >> >> I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most >> of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need >> to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and >> try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some >> extent, that it is a crap shoot.. >> >> Michelle >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kelley >> To: felvtalk >> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv >> >> I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: >> > >> > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and >> traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments >> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable >> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is >> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional >> > vet. >> > Just my experience... >> > >> > Chris C. >> > >> > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 >> > PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional >> vets >> for felv >> > What are your thoughts on this? >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured. But I did try. Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > > Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only > for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. > > Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People > have had mixed experiences with them. > > I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most > of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to > take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try > to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, > that it is a crap shoot.. > > Michelle > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > > I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and > traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > > vet. > > Just my experience... > > > > Chris C. > > > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 > > PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional > vets > for felv > > What are your thoughts on this? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
Yes that's correct. If you could share it I'd appreciate it Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:55 AM, "gbl...@aristotle.net" > wrote: > > So fundraising page is at > https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley wrote: >> >> Hi Michelle, >> >> They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com. Like I said I can't even get >> folks to share it. I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very >> discouraged. It has been shared 19 times in over a week. >> >> I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and >>> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us >>> are flat out and caring for many animals too. >>> >>> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look >>> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an >>> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a >>> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on >>> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in >>> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like >>> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already >>> spending all their money on animals). >>> >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kelley >>> To: felvtalk >>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties >>> >>> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for >>> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills >>> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I >>> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate. >>> No one cares. >>> >>> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition. >>> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to >>> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm >>> on ssdi now and things are much different. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: >>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies need. The time you have is all good then :) -Original Message- From: dlgegg To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on in her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that or any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as can be. Who k nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have always been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. Kelley wrote: > > > > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, > approx one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. > > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better > or worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. > > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it > is crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it turned out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had quite a few tu
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
So fundraising page is at https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley wrote: > > Hi Michelle, > > They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com. Like I said I can't even get > folks to share it. I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very > discouraged. It has been shared 19 times in over a week. > > I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >> >> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and >> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us >> are flat out and caring for many animals too. >> >> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look >> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an >> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a >> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on >> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in >> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like >> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already >> spending all their money on animals). >> >> Michelle >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kelley >> To: felvtalk >> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties >> >> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for >> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills >> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I >> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate. No >> one cares. >> >> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition. >> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to >> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on >> ssdi now and things are much different. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a >>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for >>> my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared >>> for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and >>> other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages >>> which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. >>> >>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for >>> who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our >>> babies need. The time you have is all good then :) >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: dlgegg >>> To: felvtalk >>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties >>> >>> Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on >>> in >>> her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very >>> healthy >>> until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that >>> or >>> any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, >>> healthy as >>> can be. Who k >>> nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have >>> always >>> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. >>> Kelley wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, >>> > approx >>> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but >>> has >>> mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested >>> pos >>> and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. >>> > >>> > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or >>> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive >>> kitties >>> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) >>> negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. >>> > >>> > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is >>> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. >>> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it >>> turned >>> out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd >>> had >>> quite a few turn neg. >>> > >>> > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of >>> > my >>> own pocket last month and can't do that again. >>> > >>> > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly >>> > do >>> it but it was an older treatment sh
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Yes, sadly they are not cheap. Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
Hi Michelle, They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com. Like I said I can't even get folks to share it. I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very discouraged. It has been shared 19 times in over a week. I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > > I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and > sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us > are flat out and caring for many animals too. > > Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look > at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an > echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a > link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on > Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in > years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like > animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already > spending all their money on animals). > > Michelle > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties > > The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for > them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills > last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I > can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate. No > one cares. > > I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition. I > was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet > for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi > now and things are much different. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: > >> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a >> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my >> sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, >> life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other >> medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some >> choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. >> >> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who >> knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies >> need. The time you have is all good then :) >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: dlgegg >> To: felvtalk >> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties >> >> Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on >> in >> her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very >> healthy >> until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that >> or >> any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy >> as >> can be. Who k >> nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have >> always >> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. >> Kelley wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, >> > approx >> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but >> has >> mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested >> pos >> and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. >> > >> > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or >> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties >> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) >> negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. >> > >> > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is >> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. >> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it >> turned >> out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had >> quite a few turn neg. >> > >> > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of >> > my >> own pocket last month and can't do that again. >> > >> > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly >> > do >> it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little >> benefit. >> > >> > We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next >> > Wednesday. >> > >> > Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm >> > thinking >> of making a fundraising page for them also. >> >
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Where are you? Maybe we can find someone who can take the cats. Margo -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Mar 15, 2014 8:42 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the cats and buy cat litter. We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended euth on the basis of one positive test. The price is of a test is $32. Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:33 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:> > the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet that we have here in Tampa.> > > > -Original Message-> From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv> > I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.> > Sent from my iPhone> > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote:> > > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and > traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments> > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable> > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is> > better care for her than she would get from a traditional> > vet. > > Just my experience...> > > > Chris C.> > > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets > for felv > > What are your thoughts on this?> > > > Sent from my iPhone> > > > ___> > Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > ___> > Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us are flat out and caring for many animals too. Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already spending all their money on animals). Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate. No one cares. I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition. I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now and things are much different. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies need. The time you have is all good then :) -Original Message- From: dlgegg To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on in her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that or any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as can be. Who k nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have always been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. Kelley wrote: > > > > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, approx one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. > > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. > > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it turned out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had quite a few turn neg. > > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my own pocket last month and can't do that again. > > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little benefit. > > We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. > > Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of making a fundraising page for them also. > > > https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
I used to have care credit before I had to declare bk after I became disabled and went on social security disability. My vet takes it with a minimum charge of $200. Seriously doubt they will approve me again and if they did I'd just be digging a deeper hole. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > > Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only > for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. > > Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People > have had mixed experiences with them. > > I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most > of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need to > take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and try > to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some extent, > that it is a crap shoot.. > > Michelle > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > > I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and > traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > > vet. > > Just my experience... > > > > Chris C. > > > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 > > PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional > vets > for felv > > What are your thoughts on this? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
I can't pay anything. I'm trying to figure out how to eat and feed the cats and buy cat litter. We have a low cost spay neuter clinic here - the one who recommended euth on the basis of one positive test. The price is of a test is $32. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:33 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: > > the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet > that we have here in Tampa. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelley > To: felvtalk > Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > > I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and > traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > > vet. > > Just my experience... > > > > Chris C. > > > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 > > PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional > vets > for felv > > What are your thoughts on this? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate. No one cares. I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition. I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now and things are much different. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: > > Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a > couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my > sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, > life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other > medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some > choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. > > I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who > knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies > need. The time you have is all good then :) > > > > -Original Message- > From: dlgegg > To: felvtalk > Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties > > Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on in > her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very > healthy > until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that or > any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy > as > can be. Who k > nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have always > been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. > Kelley wrote: > > > > > > > > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, approx > one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but > has > mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos > and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. > > > > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or > worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties > isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) > negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. > > > > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is > crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. > Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it turned > out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had > quite a few turn neg. > > > > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of > > my > own pocket last month and can't do that again. > > > > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly > > do > it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little > benefit. > > > > We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. > > > > Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm > > thinking > of making a fundraising page for them also. > > > > > > https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
good news! -Original Message- From: Lance To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 5:58 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties Immunofluorescence Antibody Assay. Generally speaking, if a cat tests positive on an IFA, it means that the cat will be positive for life. I’ve never done an IFA for Ember, but I feel pretty confident that she’d test positive, as she had a number of positive ELISAs. There’s more information (than you might want to know) in this PDF: http://www.catvets.com/public/PDFs/PracticeGuidelines/RetrovirusGLS.pdf Ember has been living with the virus for at least eight years—just another reminder that FeLV+ status is not a “death sentence”. Best hopes for the sister and brother. Lance On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Lori Taddonio wrote: Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and they both tested positive. Thanks for your help. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote: I'll send a link and you hv this one. I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best info for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. FIND SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA next step. I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH! Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the same food dishes. Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv. If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel like death warmed over! I hope that this helps~ Janda like panda -Original Message- From: Kelley To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, approx one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it turned out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had quite a few turn neg. We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my own pocket last month and can't do that again. Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little benefit. We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of making a fundraising page for them also. https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice. I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies need. The time you have is all good then :) -Original Message- From: dlgegg To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties Don't euthanize! I had 2 positives. One died from complications early on in her life: raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy until last month of her life. She developed a uri and in a positive that or any infection is not good. The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as can be. Who k nows, yours may live a long life also. My positive and negatives have always been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations. Kelley wrote: > > > > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently. I had the boy, approx one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has mouth lesions. Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos and one neg. The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly. > > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet. Have y'all had better or worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets? I have the two positive kitties isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) negatives? I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that. > > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it. Unfortunately it turned out pos as well. The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had quite a few turn neg. > > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my own pocket last month and can't do that again. > > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little benefit. > > We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. > > Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of making a fundraising page for them also. > > > https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925 > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
the test can be done less expensively at Humane Society or other low cost vet that we have here in Tampa. -Original Message- From: Kelley To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, wrote: > > My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments > from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable > and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is > better care for her than she would get from a traditional > vet. > Just my experience... > > Chris C. > > -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv > What are your thoughts on this? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
