Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Amani Oakley
Anne None of this is your fault at all. I too was given no hope for my Zander. It is the reason I was so angry with the vet community when I stumbled upon Winstrol and found it worked. I was then so stunned to find out that I hadn’t just accidentally “discovered” something new. The vet I spoke

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
Oh, Christine, I am so sorry. You did all you could do, and wanted to give her every chance. I wish it could always work out that they never suffer for a second, but it just doesn't happen sometimes. I've been there too. thank you, for responding. It is giving me peace, to hear from you and

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
Thank you Marsha, for your kind reassurance and wisdom. I don't think Sam would have made it another day, actually, now that I realize it was severe anemia making him weak. I didn't think of that right off, but I once treated a beloved cat with epogen, for kidney disease related non

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Marsha
Amani, do you know of any references I can look at regarding FeLV effect on the heart? Brock has restrictive cardiomyopathy, which results from scar tissue or protein deposits in the heart muscle. The vet thought it could be congenital. Are there any studies showing percentage of FeLV+ cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
Amani, Thank you. I actually read quite a few of your posts about Winstrol. I am glad for you, and sweet Zander, that you found something to give him more time.. lots of love and living in that extra time, I am sure. I am sorry for your loss, though. Seven years just isn't enough, but Zander

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Marsha
My condolences on your loss of Sam. You gave him the best life you could, and you made a reasonable decision in the end. There is no guarantee for the treatments some have tried, and by the time you researched each, found someone who would work with you, and then ordered and received it, it

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
Dear Lance, Thank you so very much. It means so much to me to have the input from those who understand the disease, and who also love their furbabies. I will have them tested, sooner than later, because every time I look at them now, I fear for them. Thank you for the link. It was helpful

[Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
Hello. My name is Anne, and I just had to put my kitty, Sam, down on Wednesday, due to his having felv and being very ill. I am having those terrible self doubts now... I have had to let some furbabies go in the past, and I always have those doubts, even though I know it was the right thing

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Christine Dundas
Anne First of all I'm very sorry for your loss. I've been on both sides. Just recently, I was dealing with FELV cat. Very anemic. I kept holding off on putting her to sleep, trying different things. Ruthie had been maintaining. then started to go downhill fast. The morning she passed, we were

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread annetburton
I will definitely ask my vet, if my others should be positive too. I have found that often, we know things that some vets have no experience with. Some resent it, but some are humble and the animal is more important than their egos. Anne -Original Message- From: Amani Oakley

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Lance
Anne, I’m sorry for your loss. Sam sounds adorable (we have a squirrel-tail, too). You did what you thought was best for him based on the advice of the vet. And that’s okay. It’s the best any of us can do. We all walk a fine line between wanting to give them every chance to rebound and wanting

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Amani Oakley
Zander was just the most wonderful cat, Anne. My husband and I would have done anything at all for him. We loved him dearly and desperately and he loved us right back. We have been involved in rescuing strays for quite a while, and that sweet little boy was certainly one who made a huge mark

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Amani Oakley
Marsha At 2 mg a day, a person would need a whole lot of vet pills to use on themselves. The normal dose for humans is 10 to 12 mg a day, and athletes use it at way higher levels to enhance performance. In any event, I would think that a vet could reassure themselves by just limiting the

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Amani Oakley
Marsha This is same sort of thing that Zander eventually died from at age 7. In his case, it was dilated cardiomyopathy, but the vet also commented on the extensive scar tissue in the heart. Someone else on the chatline mentioned their FeLV cat died from cardiomyopathy. Researching this on

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Marsha
How high was Aphrodite's creatinine level? Peaches' WBC had been scary low 5 days before I took her in for support over the weekend. Tried clavamox and orbax for preventive reasons to tide her over the low point, but both made her feel ill. They gave her enrofloxacin at the university, in

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Amani Oakley
Perhaps but that wasn't my experience, and if you go on line, you find others who find it extremely helpful for chronic kidney disease cases, just like you mentioned. But Marsha, if the concern is that the results were "lackluster", then what could possibly be the explanation for the pure

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Marsha
Amani, I think you already hit on the reasons for refusal earlier - the report about potential liver damage, but probably the bigger reason is that humans try to get hold of it for themselves to use illicitly. What percentage of your cats that got Winstrol were FeLV+, and how many got it for

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving, and need to understand about felv

2015-11-27 Thread Marsha
Maybe part of it is because of lackluster results for the conditions they *were* using it for. I found 2 "old school" vets in my area that had used it a couple of decades ago, then kind of forgot it existed after it got harder to find. One said she forgot about it because it didn't make that