Re: OT: UPDATE ON THOR

2005-04-06 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Tonya Pred???catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a cat that does that because of allergies (ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it happens. tonyaCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Ok Thor ate some yesterday and now is back to not eating, it is so spuratic I do

RE: OT: need advise again

2005-04-06 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Hideyo, I am pulling for ya, good luck, keep up informed.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my corona virus positive cats, Simon who is about 7 or 8 years stopped eating since last Friday night all of sudden and he started hiding all of sudden – with all of my corona virus

need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've got a question - our group took in a kitten from animal control , 8 weeks old, in May 2003. He was tested for FELV/FIV (Elisa snap test) in November 2003, and tested negative. We adopted him out about March 2004. The new owner just reported back that he was havine URI problems, and he

Re: allergies/overgrooming

2005-04-06 Thread Lernermichelle
It's behavioral-- anxiety related. The benadryl sort of works like a valium, I think. It's an extremely small dose, and just calms. Michelle In a message dated 4/5/05 11:38:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, I'm going to ask about it again before I turn to

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread carlas
I would have the cat retested on IFA. Cats can test negative if they are postive if it's during the intal virus incubation. We had a cat test negative in our group the kittens got adopted. One got really sick took to vet and he tested postitive. All the other did too. Retested the mom and

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Gloria~~the test on one of my FeLV kittens wasn't dependable. Flavia tested negative the day I met her--she was 14 weeks. The rescuer and I were thrilled. A month later she was re-tested when she was spayed, and she came up positive. We were devastated. The vet had never said a word about the

[Fwd: Re: signs of anemia?]

2005-04-06 Thread Nina
Hi Christine, I forwarded you post to the rest of the list. I'm sure there will be others that will help with suggestions and support. I'm sorry your baby is in trouble. The Dox, V-B and iron should help, it's a really good start. I would also ask your vet about oral interferon, (Interferon

Re: Feline Interferon (omega)/cost

2005-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hey Michelle, So all in all, how much do you project that it will cost? Thanks so much - Gloria At 11:26 AM 4/6/2005, you wrote: Gloria, My vet's liaison, Michelle Rose, has a packet of info for any vet that's interested in getting a special dispensation from the FDA, (your vet's office has to

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
bottom line seems to be that ANY cat that tests positive for FeLV needs to be retested in 90 days the problem, of course, is that what rescue/shelter has the holding capacity for this i've been thinking about this for awhile--whether folks with confirmed FeLVs would be willing/able to

Re: Feline Interferon (omega)/cost

2005-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Oops - brain stress, I guess - reading too many emails at once. I knew that it was Nina! So sounds like it could cost maybe $750 for each batch. Does your vet administer it sub q or iv? How many times / months is that anticipated, I wonder? Thanks much - Gloria At 12:24 PM 4/6/2005, you

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I think that's a great idea, but (and maybe I've misunderstood what you say) I'd be afraid a foster cat who might otherwise re-test negative would actually contract the virus while being fostered with the positives..? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fwd: Re: signs of anemia?]

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
nina, GREAT reminder about the medical model that infects human and veterinary medicine: diagnose-medicate-cure-dismiss. chronic illnesses short-circuit this simple plan. not only are patients/guardians blamed when there is no cure, but once a single diagnosis is made, most of the time ANYTHING

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
well, this is where we have to get the science people in if a cat tests positive, it means it's been exposed to the virus. i would THINK that if it's gonna be able to throw the virus off (develop an immunity to the virus), it's gonna do that anyway. ie, if it's a healthy cat to start with who

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Dear Delusional - No, MC, just kidding! It is a problem - how do you find those exceptions that pop up? And I'll bet it's harder on the breed rescues, when they encounter the FELV cats. Right now, we just have people who'll take them. Or, when They've already adopted and are in love, they

TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
TeeCee hasnt groomed himself in the last week (due to the mouth ulcers?), how do I clean him? Hes on the liver shake, supplements, etc and has turned CARROT colored from the Carrot juice in the supplement. Hes also gotten just cruddy other places. Whats the least invasive way to

Re: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
At PetSmart they have wipes to clean the cats with then just pet TeeCee while you bathe him or go to http://www1.revivalanimal.com/default.aspand they have the wipes also.Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TeeCee hasn’t groomed himself in the last week (due to the mouth ulcers?),

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message if a cat tests positive, it means it's been exposed to the virus.Is that always necessarily the case? I thought tests weren't 100% accurate---that they can givethe wrong result? (False positive?) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message That's good to know--thanks Cherie! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do? At PetSmart

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
the good news is that vets aren't automatically euthanizing all cats who test positive for FeLV, the bad news is that vets aren't automatically euthanizing all cats who test positive for FeLV... outreach to rescues? it's not that hard to find breed rescues, and even if we all just individually

Re: Feline Interferon (omega)/cost

2005-04-06 Thread Nina
Gloria, It's been $750 per order, 3 batches per order. If we use it the way Paolo did, then it would be 1 box per protocol, (5 days of treatment duration, 1 vial per day). So one batch would actually cost, one third of that. I just realized that you are the one with the question about the

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
again, this is where my grasp of the medical falls short. i don't know what research has been done re: prevalence of false positives, how/if they relate to the tests used, and other factors. which, again, brings up the issue of whether a healthy, adult cat that's exposed to the virus (even if

Re: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread Nina
Hi Stephanie, I'm glad to hear TeeCee is hanging in. Have you found other ways to help him get better? Did your vet give you anything for his mouth ulcers? I don't know if this will help, but when my girls are having problems with Gingivitis, I give them Peroxicam. I have it compounded and it

so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
okay, first word back from the experts is that it probably would NOT be a good idea to put a cat who might be fighting off the virus in with positives--if the immune system is busy fighting off the virus to start with, it doesn't need the added stress. especially since there are different

RE: so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message am i being completely unrealistic about even trying to save the FeLVs?? Hey MaryChristine, I wouldn't evenput yourself through the wringerwondering about that...the way things are, and the way I see it, these little FeLV kitties need as many folks as possible to go bat for

Re: so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
aw, thanks, kerry!

Re: so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Mary, We do what we can, and save a many as we can, and pray that there are more people out there like you and the rest of the list ;-)) Keep up the good work, and do not loose faith ;-)) CherieTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, first word back from the experts is that it probably would

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread Tad Burnett
I say "The Bottom Line" is what I just read on another listEvery 9 seconds an animal is put tp sleep becouse there is no one to care for it...And most of those are FeLV neg The bottom line is that we should encourage anyone to care for an animal however they are comfortable doing...If

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
i don't think the issue is trying to convince people to do what they cannot or are not comfortable doing--but you were able to do what you have done because you adequate information to make the decision i am grateful that i have learned what i have about FeLV, and discovered things about

Re: so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread Nina
am i being completely unrealistic about even trying to save the FeLVs should i just accept that the very limited number of FeLV homes we have are all that's possible right now, and let this go? i do not feel objective enough to answer that question for myself MC, Tee hee, this one,

Re: so much for fantasy...

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
um, if something is easy, it's not a problem, is it? evil kitty grin

FW: [feline leukimia] Greetings

2005-04-06 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
This is another message from another list person, could we help her? Since she is not on our list yet, please respond to her directly to her email box with your responses. Thanks. B Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just joined this list because I am fostering a six month

Re: Feline Interferon (omega)/cost

2005-04-06 Thread Nina
Gloria, I'm sorry about the babies you lost, I bet they were as cute as their names. The Feline Interferon (Virbagen Omega, brand name), is injected Sub Q, (under the skin). It is easier to give than, say Penicillin, because it's just like water, so isn't thick and doesn't sting. Let me know

Re: OT: UPDATE ON THOR

2005-04-06 Thread catatonya
prednisoneCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya Pred???catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a cat that does that because of allergies (ears). He is negative and usually gets pred. when it happens. tonyaCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Ok Thor ate some yesterday

Re: allergies/overgrooming

2005-04-06 Thread catatonya
thanks that's why my vet said she didn't think it would work. she does think dd has allergies. I'm going to ask about trying it anyway though. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's behavioral-- anxiety related. The benadryl sort of works like a valium, I think. It's an extremely small dose, and

Re: [Fwd: Re: signs of anemia?]

2005-04-06 Thread Lernermichelle
I think I would also do Immuno-regulin. There is an article on the felineleukemia.org website and if your vet does not have it, Kyle sent a link a few days ago to a place where you can order it. His cat has been doing remarkably well (knock on wood) on a combination of Immuno-regulin and

Re: Feline Interferon (omega)

2005-04-06 Thread Lernermichelle
Both. You have to get permission from the FDA to import it, then order it from England. Instructions for doing both have been posted, and your vet can get an info packet from Nina's vet's technician. Michelle In a message dated 4/6/05 11:32:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the latest

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread catatonya
but negatives need to be retested too, because they may have been recently exposed. I just wish now that shelters didn't test at allTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bottom line seems to be that ANY cat that tests positive for FeLVneeds to be retested in 90 days the problem, of course,

Re: allergies/overgrooming

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
it can be both, actually--starting out as an allergic reaction, then hanging on as a behavioral pattern (is ANYTHING simple?)

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Perhaps giving one test is going to be the best some shelters can do - and just try to do the best we can... Gloria At 07:57 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote: but negatives need to be retested too, because they may have been recently exposed. I just wish now that shelters didn't test at all

Re: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread Lernermichelle
You can buy kitty wipes for cleaning sick cats at a lot of pet food stores. Michelle

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread TenHouseCats
i think that is the best we can do--at times at the sanctuary, as all the info swirled around re: which tests do what, when they work, if they work, what they test for, how often they need to be repeated, is PCR the answer, is the IFA the best, the director wondered if there was a point to testing

Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-06 Thread catatonya
I agree Tad. If you adopt or take in a cat that has ever been exposed to another cat you really have no idea. My opinion is vaccinate your cats/kittens when you get them, and hope for the best. If someone gets sick, test. If positive, treat as best you can. I don't think there's any way you can

RE: TeeCee Needs a Bath, what do I do?

2005-04-06 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
Thanks Michelle, I have some, but the carrot juice in the liver shake has stained his face, chest, paws, tummy, and my hands a carrot color. I'd love to get my white kitty white again! Steph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL