Re: So many losses...
Dear Nina, I am praying for your little Gracie. She knows that you love her very much. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 18, 2005 0:13 am Subject: Re: So many losses... Thank you Nina. Big hugs and positive thoughts coming your way for your Gracie. Terri B. - Original Message - From: Ninamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: So many losses... Terri B, Terri D and Bonnie, I'm so sorry for all the heartache and loss. I'm sitting here numb with the grief of it. My little Gracie is fighting for her life and it's so hard to imagine how we will bear it all. I have no words, only sadness. Sometimes it's so hard to keep fighting. I'll write again when my strength returns. In the meantime know that I love you, appreciate you and feel your pain. Nina
Re: So many losses...
Nina we are here for you...let us be your strength CherieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terri B, Terri D and Bonnie,I'm so sorry for all the heartache and loss. I'm sitting here numb with the grief of it. My little Gracie is fighting for her life and it's so hard to imagine how we will bear it all. I have no words, only sadness. Sometimes it's so hard to keep fighting. I'll write again when my strength returns. In the meantime know that I love you, appreciate you and feel your pain.NinaHave a purrfect day Cherie
Re: So many losses...
I, too, would like to convey my condolences for the past few days losses. I took a mini-break, and wasn't on the computer. So sorry to hear of all the bad news! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005
Re: I'M BACK
Poor Katrina babies nice to have you back. If they have unexplained diarrhea and nothing traditional cures them, I have NEW info on a PIG parasite that is now confirmed as zoonotic to cats (I'm battling it now with my rescue cats). If nothing else works, it's worth testing for. It's Trichomonosis, and the only long term cure is still in experimental stages. (I'm sure there was at least some pig poop in all that water) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005
Re: I'M BACK
Jenn I would be very interested in hearing about that. You can never learn too much. Stools are ALWAYS a issue with cats The first two Katrina kittens had bright green and I mean green poop. My vet put them on flagyl and Zithromax. Second set of kittens well that's another set of problems all together
Re: location
Thanks Amy--I really do hope he got a home...I just worried that he'd been euthanized, for lack of transportation. I have no idea how much that happens--(does anyone know?) There's a delay re the NJ FeLV human-friendly cat I was going to take--handover was to happen last Wed but now we need to wait till URI clears up. There's also another human-friendly FeLV I *may* be taking if his new home doesn't work out. If anything changes I'll be back in touch re the kittens you have. Bless you for all you do. Kerry - Original Message - From: Amy Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: RE: location Kerry, About the Rochester kitty, sorry about that. I wrote you and then somehow we lost touch. I would have been able to get him to you but the people never got back to me. I talked to another person locally and she was meeting the cat to see about taking him. I'm 99% sure she took him but I'm waiting for them to follow up. I know they would have contacted me by now if he still needed a place to stay. I'm guessing no news is good news. Thanks for the offer! If you have any openings or know anybody else that keeps positives, I'm waiting on a litter of kittens that my vet is trying to catch and I know they will be positive for something. I have the 2 adults that were hanging around where the kittens are located. My female is FIV pos and the male is FeLV pos so I'm guessing somewhere out in the wild they bred and that the kitties floating around may be positive. They all showed up at my vet's farm. Just to clarify so it doesn't sound like I'm breeding them... My girl showed up unspayed. My vet caught her, spayed her, and I adopted her. Later, my male showed up, intact. She caught him, neutered him, and I adopted him. Now these other kittens are coming around, not babies but younger cats. Since I know the 2 cats I adopted are positive, I'm guessing some of the kittens may be too. Never know though, maybe they never came in contact. --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Amy---d'you know what happened to the Rochester NY cat (see below)? I was willing to take him but I didn't know how to get him to Chicago. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Wilkins Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: location Kerry, I do a lot of animal transport. The way it works with us is that a volunteer drives approximately 60 miles, more or less if they desire. At that point, we hand off the animal to the next volunteer. For cats, we crate them and send a litter box. For dogs, we allow for potty breaks. Most of the transport coordinators have volunteers along the desired route that agree to help out. I tend to go between NY, OH, KY, PA, etc. so most of my volunteers are in those areas. It is really cool how it all works. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy WilkinsSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Leuk Positive Cat Yet again, somebody has contacted me about helping out a leukemia positive kitty. Sorry to always be dropping these on you guys but I just got married and then came home and adopted 2 more cats (1 FIV+ and 1 FeLV+) the next day. I'm out of room and I wanted to write and see if anybody can take this cat. I'll set up transport if anybody has room for him. Here is a copy of the e-mail I got about him. I also have pictures of him that I will send to anybody that is interested. I need to find somebody within a couple days or she will be euthanizing him. He is in Rochester, NY but I'm willing to set up transport up to 8-10 hours away. hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should
for Hideyo
Dear HideyoHow is little Caesar? I hope the crisis is over?? And everything is ok with you and your furballs. I am way, waybehind with chores, emails, etc, and now also realize I can't find your address that you gave me (for mailing the promised pic, which is all set to go in the mail) on my home computer: Can you give me it again please--I'm sorry about that. Lots of love hugs to you and the kitties, and hope Caesar is better. Let us know when you have time. thanks Hideyo! Kerry
Re: Re: 8wk old felv pos needs home ASAP
the wife wants to take both, the hubby is the stumbling block, I'll know for sure by Monday (hopefully) I'll keep you all posted. kristi From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/15 Thu PM 02:19:49 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 8wk old felv pos needs home ASAP Awww, why can't the folks who are adopting the boy take the girl too? Thank you for helping her Kristi. Prayers that she finds a wonderful home soon. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, sorry i've become strictly a reader, but my b-friend and I are in the middle of buying a house and things are s crazy. Anyway to the pointthere are 2 8week old positive kittens one male/one female at a kill shelter in Rhode Island. We have a home for the male, but not the female. They have told us that she will be euthanized soon (the end of this week?) if she is not placed. I have contacted a couple other resources but have only gotten a bunch of maybes and we'll sees. So I'm in a tight spot i would like to a least have a definitive back up if the homes we usually place them in do not come through. Can anyone help??? Thanx Kristi
Re: Atlanta and Athens :(
Terri, I am so sorry. I can't even imagine losing so many so close together. I hope you take comfort in the fact that you gave all of these babies a good quality of life even if it was short. Many cats never have even a moment of love and care. tonya --- Terri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atlanta (white with tabby) and Athens (grey tabby) born 4-3-05, were both pts yesterday Both had FELV (tested 2 times) and Atlanta could hardly walk and Athens was on his way. Decided to let them go gently and with out anymore pain. These are the last two of the five siblings that tested positive. The one brother - Rome, tested negative 2 months ago, retested yesterday and is still negative, he will now be adopted out. I hope I never have this disease again, but I am sure I will being that I do rescue. This has made me realize what a horrible disease this is along with FIP . 3 of the 5 died from FIP but I am sure it was because of the FELV and their immune systems not being able to fight anything off :( We seem to have a high rate of FIP in this area .. :( Heavy heavy heart in Oakdale, CA Terri ps please add them to the candle lite service for Monday - thank you -- Terri Durham-Stone Safe a Life Spay and Neuter Live well, Love much, Laugh Often
Re: Grace update
Nina, I hope Grace continues to improve. I know how it feels to be so overwhelmed with animals! Just take it one day at a time. Hopefully the holistic vet will be helpful. I took my first positive, CC, to a holistic vet when she was sick the first time and it was very helpful. Take care of yourself. Let the house go a bit... but not enough that we see you on the evening news! ha. tonya --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list. Just to many things on my plate. I feel like no matter how early I get up, or how late I go to bed, I still can't get done what needs to be done. Looking at the state of my house, you'd assume I was sitting on my butt eating bon bons and watching TV. Grace's vet visit yesterday went really well, at least as far as the trauma involved. She was such a good girl! My Internist gave her a thorough physical exam, and except for the fact that she's lost 2 lbs and her eyes were unevenly dilated, she said she looks really good, (her breathing is fine, no swollen lymph nodes, etc.). She couldn't tell if Grace still has a heart murmur, because she was purring too loud to hear her heart properly! What an angel my Gracie is. The Internist said we could do blood work, but unless there's a problem with one of her organs, which neither one of us thinks there is, it wouldn't show anything conclusive. She suggested putting her on Baytril, sent me home with subq fluids, (even though she's not dehydrated), and Dex shots, (just in case). She also gave me some samples of novel protein dry foods for Grace to try, (she's not eating and she's always liked dry food, so what the heck). I'm trying to finish up the questionnaire from the holistic practitioner, so we can get started on that. Grace did eat a bit last night and seems to have a renewed desire to fight. I feel more hopeful this morning. I just gave her her first dose of Baytril, syringed some babyfood, colostrum and Nutrical down her, (not enough, the darn syringe stuck and I put too much pressure on it so it exploded food all over my hand), and put some transdermal Cypro on her ear. I think her belly is bothering her, so I may try a 1/4 Pepcid later. Love and prayers to all those in trouble, and those of you who aren't as well! Nina
Re: I'M BACK
Great to hear from you Karen! I had been worried about you! tonya --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am Karen from Texas some of you may remember me and my positive babies... Gloria you still here arent you? Belinda keeps my website...love ya Dont have any positives right now but a few katrina kittens and they drank the water and they are not very healthy..
Re: I'M BACK
Tonya ! Hello. I am having a amazing adoption summer. Not one cat testing positive for Fiv or Felv. I dont know however how many more I can take that survived the hurricane. The toxins in the systems of these poor babies is amazing.
Re: Our Beautiful Salome'
Terri, I'm so sorry to hear about Salome. Please don't you and Dan second guess yourselves. That's one of the things so bad about leukemia. Sometimes it just hits so fast. Salome had a wonderful home with you and I know she feels better now and is still sending you both her love. tonya Our Big Beautiful Girl, her Daddy's Salome', has left us for the Rainbow Bridge as of 10:15 AM this morning. She had been doing so well -- was sick only once in her whole life, last summer. She got over that URI all by herself, without antibiotic. She stopped eating just about 5 days ago. No visible reason, but then she started vomiting, and had loose stool. We finally took her to the vet on Wednesday thinking maybe she had swallowed something that was causing stomach distress. We checked her for blockage, and ran a blood panel. X-rays were clear. Some distension due to gas, but no foreign objects or anything. However, her white cell count was 8, her kidneys were not functioning to capacity, and her liver was in end stage failure. We brought home an anti-emitic and amoxi-drops, but she still refused to eat, would not allow force feeding, and vomited up the medication. This morning, she had bloody diarrhea and bloody urine. Her Daddy (my husband Dan) finally saw that he needed to end her pain. Her bottom was all swollen and leaky and her bones were starting to show. She was looking hollow -- not much of her left when she would make eye contact. I have a splitting headache. My husband is weeping, and beating himself up over this, even though we know that she was suffering and is now free from her pains. Now she is free to romp and play with her sisfurs and her brofurs that have gone before her -- especially her litter-mate Ruthie-Girl, who has been waiting for her sisfur Salome' at the Rainbow Bridge for 9 years. Whether or not she was truly FeLV+ I don't really know -- but I am grateful that I had the privilege of sharing her life on earth. I thank God that He entrusted her to our care, and that she saw fit to bring us her baby brofur Travis to taker her place in playing with the soda bottle caps and paper bags. He is so much liker her already, it's scary. He's like both of them -- Salome' and Ruthie both. The furkid photos link in my signature has pictures of her for any of you who don't remember what she looked like, or for those of you who just want to take another look. To my felvtalk family -- Please add her to the next Candle light service? I thank God every day that He provided this list. I don't think I would have gotten through these past 6 years without all of you to fall back on -- in both times of sorrow and in times of joy. Goodnight, my sweet darling Salome'... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec and Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Our Beautiful Salome'
Thanks, Tonya. We know it was the best thing for her, and that she's all better now. It was one of the hardest things we ever had to do, but we know that it was the kindest thing we could have done for her. Terri - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: Our Beautiful Salome' Terri,I'm so sorry to hear about Salome. Please don't you and Dan secondguess yourselves. That's one of the things so bad about leukemia. Sometimes it just hits so fast. Salome had a wonderful home with youand I know she feels better now and is still sending you both her love.tonya Our Big Beautiful Girl, her Daddy's Salome', has left us for the Rainbow Bridge as of 10:15 AM this morning. She had been doing so well -- was sick only once in her whole life, last summer. She got over that URI all by herself, without antibiotic. She stopped eating just about 5 days ago. No visible reason, but then she started vomiting, and had loose stool. We finally took her to the vet on Wednesday thinking maybe she had swallowed something that was causing stomach distress. We checked her for blockage, and ran a blood panel. X-rays were clear. Some distension due to gas, but no foreign objects or anything. However, her white cell count was 8, her kidneys were not functioning to capacity, and her liver was in end stage failure. We brought home an anti-emitic and amoxi-drops, but she still refused to eat, would not allow force feeding, and vomited up the medication. This morning, she had bloody diarrhea and bloody urine. Her Daddy (my husband Dan) finally saw that he needed to end her pain. Her bottom was all swollen and leaky and her bones were starting to show. She was looking hollow -- not much of her left when she would make eye contact. I have a splitting headache. My husband is weeping, and beating himself up over this, even though we know that she was suffering and is now free from her pains. Now she is free to romp and play with her sisfurs and her brofurs that have gone before her -- especially her litter-mate Ruthie-Girl, who has been waiting for her sisfur Salome' at the Rainbow Bridge for 9 years. Whether or not she was truly FeLV+ I don't really know -- but I am grateful that I had the privilege of sharing her life on earth. I thank God that He entrusted her to our care, and that she saw fit to bring us her baby brofur Travis to taker her place in playing with the soda bottle caps and paper bags. He is so much liker her already, it's scary. He's like both of them -- Salome' and Ruthie both. The furkid photos link in my signature has pictures of her for any of you who don't remember what she looked like, or for those of you who just want to take another look. To my felvtalk family -- Please add her to the next Candle light service? I thank God every day that He provided this list. I don't think I would have gotten through these past 6 years without all of you to fall back on -- in both times of sorrow and in times of joy. Goodnight, my sweet darling Salome'... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec and Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: So many losses...
Thanks Cherie, that's very comforting. Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Nina we are here for you...let us be your strength Cherie
Re: Grace update
Thanks Tonya, Grace isn't doing very well. She's perked up, as far as being in her body more, but she won't eat and I just can't force any more food down her, it's just too stressful. I thought about a feeding tube, but my sweet little Grace has been fighting off and on, for her whole life. I don't know, I just don't think it's the right thing to do. Of course, watching her starve to death doesn't feel right either! I keep expecting her to snap out of it somehow and come back to health. I'm praying for a miracle. My Internist sent me home with very little to do. I have to put my faith in something, so I'm putting it in her, (praying that she wants to stay), and in holistic remedies. The person I'm using for holistic advice isn't a vet. I have appointments with two holistic vet practitioner, but they were so busy, I couldn't get in until the end of the month with one and the second week of Oct with the other. I'm on a cancellation list with both of them, but... Anyway, thank you and thank everyone on the list that's pulling for my Gracie and me. Nina catatonya wrote: Nina, I hope Grace continues to improve. I know how it feels to be so overwhelmed with animals! Just take it one day at a time. Hopefully the holistic vet will be helpful. I took my first positive, CC, to a holistic vet when she was sick the first time and it was very helpful. Take care of yourself. Let the house go a bit... but not enough that we see you on the evening news! ha. tonya
Re: So many losses...
Aw, Terri, Big hugs received and appreciated. Sending them right back to you. Once again, I'm so sorry for your loss. Nina Terri Brown wrote: Thank you Nina. Big hugs and positive thoughts coming your way for your Gracie. Terri B.
Re: So many losses...
Thank you so much Bonnie, It's so good of you and Terri to take the time and energy in the midst of your grief to let me know you're pulling for my Grace. Your compassion and your prayers mean so much to me. I'll go whisper it in Gracie's ear. Nina BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: Dear Nina, I am praying for your little Gracie. She knows that you love her very much. Bonnie
Gracie
Dear Nina I just got back home and I guess it's about 9.15 on Saturday night your time and I'm sitting here thinking about you and Gracie and praying that she rallies. It's just not fair that a little kitty has to fight so hard and so often, but thank-whoever-is-in-charge-of-these-things that she found you and doesn't have to go through this struggle on her own. Which doesn't help you, I know--I feel for you, I truly do It's so heartbreaking to watch our furballs suffer. I strongly believe that having such a wonderful and loving human friend as you by her side is what keep her going through thick and thin--my God, Nina, no one--animal or human--could find a truer companion in adversity than you. I pray you and sweet Gracie have a good night. much love and hugs Krry
