RE: Alex

[Helene Hand]

Love and prayers for 
Alex.Helene


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Alex


Prayers going up for you and Alex.
 
elizabeth
 
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  Hi all I was wondering if I could get some prayers for sweet Alex,he is 
  not doing real well and he is at the clinic,Jen is doing what she can for 
  him.He is anemic and just not getting any better.Thanks all
  Sherry,Rafferty,CousCous and Xander
  
  
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RE: Our Clack is gone

[Helene Hand]

I understand, and I am so, so sorry..it hurts 
so much.  It is wonderful, though, that he is free to romp and play once 
again...
 
helene


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:50 PMTo: 
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gone

 Oh no - I am so very sorry.elizabeth
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8:36 PMSubject: Our Clack is gone

Hey 
everyone,
 
I know it hasn't 
been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to 
FeLV.  Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack.  He was 12 years 
old and I'm pretty sure he was negative.  He lived outside with his brother 
Click.
 
He was acting a bit 
abnormal yesterday and this morning.  I went out to give him some canned 
food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from me.  When 
I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with his mouth open 
panting.  I thought he was already gone, but he was still breathing.  
I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not responding to the 
oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils weren't responding 
to light.  They recommended PTS since they didn't think he would make it 
overnight.
 
This has happened so 
suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.  Clack and his brother, Click, 
arrived as small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard.  They 
were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click.  We were never 
able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until tonight.  I held 
him and told him that it was OK if he needed to go.  We're pretty sure that 
he waited until we got home and made sure that he was some place we could see 
him.  He could have just gone off into the woods to 
die.
 
This is never easy. 
We're having him cremated.  Now he's with his mother at Rainbow 
Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago very suddenly.  Now Click is 
left without his brother and Mama.
 
Could you please add 
Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive?  He was a black kitty 
with a white spot on his chest.
 
Thanks so much for 
listening.  This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years 
(since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty & her 
kittens).


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Re: Patches again...

[Lernermichelle]

Runny eyes can mean herpes or some other upper respiratory virus. 500 to 
1,000 mg/day of Lysine (make sure pure Lysine with no additives) helps a lot 
with this. If nose is stuffed up as well this can make them not eat. I would 
look into powerful immune stimulants like Immuno-regulan (articles on 
felineleukemia.org web page).
Michelle

Patches again...

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Hi, 
it's me, Diane R., just signed on from my home account. ;-)
 
And 
already with another question!!
 
Patches has fairly steadily had runny eyes -- in its liquid form 
before it becomes eye boogers, it's clear but a very pale pink.  Is this a 
symptom of something?   Today the eye boogers were worse than usual, 
and he was very subdued.  
 
He 
has had less of an appetite than usual the past few days -- although our 
perception of "normal" is somewhat skewed since he came to us half-starved and 
full of parasites.  When his appetite started decreasing, we thought it 
might be the Missing Link we had started to sprinkle in it, so we tried giving 
him half a can with some sprinkles and then, hours later, the other half of the 
can the next morning, without.  But then he wasn't finishing either 
portion.  He had been freefeeding on crunchies fairly steadily, so we were 
wondering if maybe his appetite had evened out after the first few days of 
wanting any and all nourishment.  But of course we're also trying to beef 
him up, so last night we tried a whole can of A/D and he wolfed it 
down.
 
I 
guess at this point we're bogged down in variables -- appetite evening out, not 
liking the Missing Link, not liking the particular variety du jour, the recent 
heat.  We're in kind of a bind because we don't feel we have time to "wait 
and see" since if he truly is FeLV+, the runny eyes, the subduedness, the 
lessened appetite might mean he's come down with something that needs 
treating.
 
So, 
has anybody here had experience with these kinds of symptoms in 
combination?  Any input welcome.
 
Diane R.
 

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Re: Our Clack is gone

[Lernermichelle]

I am so sorry.
Michelle

Re: Our Clack is gone

[etrent]

 Oh no - I am so very sorry.



elizabeth



 
 
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To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Our Clack is gone














Hey 
everyone,


 


I know it hasn't 
been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to 
FeLV.  Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack.  He was 12 years 
old and I'm pretty sure he was negative.  He lived outside with his brother 
Click.


 


He was acting a bit 
abnormal yesterday and this morning.  I went out to give him some canned 
food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from me.  When 
I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with his mouth open 
panting.  I thought he was already gone, but he was still breathing.  
I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not responding to the 
oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils weren't responding 
to light.  They recommended PTS since they didn't think he would make it 
overnight.


 


This has happened so 
suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.  Clack and his brother, Click, 
arrived as small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard.  They 
were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click.  We were never 
able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until tonight.  I held 
him and told him that it was OK if he needed to go.  We're pretty sure that 
he waited until we got home and made sure that he was some place we could see 
him.  He could have just gone off into the woods to 
die.


 


This is never easy. 
We're having him cremated.  Now he's with his mother at Rainbow 
Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago very suddenly.  Now Click is 
left without his brother and Mama.


 


Could you please add 
Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive?  He was a black kitty 
with a white spot on his chest.


 


Thanks so much for 
listening.  This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years 
(since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty & her 
kittens).

 




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home needed for Siamese mix kitten tested pos

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




Hi all, I had a call from the Indiana 
lady/angel who took 12 positives from the NJ shelter that closed down last 
year.
She needs a home for a 12 week 
kitten, a Siamese mix, that has tested pos, and is being kept in a cage -- she 
doesn't want to mix with her established 
positives in case he can throw the FeLV off; and she won't mix him 
with her negs in case they became infected. If anyone can help, please let me 
know. Also please cross-post if poss.  Thanks. Kerry M.
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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 
12:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Ty 
update
YAY TY
Glad to hear 
this!
 
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Re: Ty update

[TatorBunz]

YAY TY
Glad to hear this!
 
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RE: My 3 Fiv+ Boys

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




Congratulations Sherry! Lucky boys!
Kerry 
M

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On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaanSent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:11 
AMTo: FelvtalkSubject: My 3 Fiv+ Boys
You know last night I was just thinking that I never communicate with the 
fiv org.I just love everyone here that I never think to post there.I brought 
Rafferty and CousCous home at the beginning of the year and Xander 2 weeks 
tomorrow.They are the sweetest most loving boys.I was just fostering them but 
decided to officially adopt them.I know I am never taking them back. :)
Just wanted to tell you about my boys.Thanks for listening and for all your 
prayers for my sanctuary fur kids. :)
Sherry


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RE: Ty update

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

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Great 
to hear the good news of Ty. Perhaps he could come give my guys some lessons in 
getting along!

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On Behalf Of Roxane BaldwinSent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:30 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Ty 
update
I know I don’t post that much but I do try and read the posts. I want to 
tell all of you who have lost loved furkids including groundhogs, I’m so sorry 
for your lose, my prayer and tears go out to you. For those of you just finding 
out you have a Felv furkid, I feel your pain.
 
I wanted to give a Ty update. He is a wild man, he has come out of his 
shell and has just blossomed. Even my FIV boy, Peep, seems to put up with him 
and lets Ty wrestle/box him without fighting/biting Ty away. 
 
We now are guessing Ty’s age a little younger then first thought, he has so 
much kitten still in him, we are thinking him to be under a year, we thought 
about 18 months which I guess he still could be. I started to give him more 
freedom, he goes out every morning and helps feed the chickens and runs the yard 
before I put him away. Letting him outside that little bit has really lifted his 
spirits, he is a street kid and wants to kind of stay that way but loves the 
attention of the inside life.
 
His health has been wonderful, we will be having him retested in September. 
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Re: Our Clack is gone

[Barb Moermond]

Oh Tim, I'm so sorry.  GLOW to light his path and ease your heartsTim Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hey everyone,     I know it hasn't been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to FeLV.  Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack.  He was 12 years old and I'm pretty sure he was negative.  He lived outside with his brother Click.     He was acting a bit
 abnormal yesterday and this morning.  I went out to give him some canned food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from me.  When I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with his mouth open panting.  I thought he was already gone, but he was still breathing.  I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not responding to the oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils weren't responding to light.  They recommended PTS since they didn't think he would make it overnight.     This has happened so suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.  Clack and his brother, Click, arrived as small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard.  They were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click.  We were never
 able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until tonight.  I held him and told him that it was OK if he needed to go.  We're pretty sure that he waited until we got home and made sure that he was some place we could see him.  He could have just gone off into the woods to die.     This is never easy. We're having him cremated.  Now he's with his mother at Rainbow Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago very suddenly.  Now Click is left without his brother and Mama.     Could you please add Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive?  He was a black kitty with a white spot on his
 chest.     Thanks so much for listening.  This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years (since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty & her kittens).Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous 
	
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RE: Our Clack is gone

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




My 
heart goes out to you Tim, and to Click, for your loss of your beloved Clack. 
Our little souls leave such a huge gap when they move on. I'm glad you were able 
to be with him at the end--it's so obvious he held on for you. And I'm glad he 
knew what it was to be so loved and cared for. 
I hope 
the 12 years of memories will eventually bring you comfort. Thinking of you and 
Click, and sending cyber hugs to you both. 
Kerry

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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 21, 
2006 8:49 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: 
Our Clack is gone
I'm so sorry for your loss - such a tough thing to lose two in one month! 
How wonderful that despite his feral nature he knew he could come to you for 
comfort. 
 
I do have to say that I love their names, Click and Clack - we're big fans 
of Car Talk around here and I work around the corner from Dewey, Cheatham & 
Howe, their "attorney's" office. 
-- 
  Original message -- From: "Tim Lyons" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
  Hey 
  everyone,
   
  I know it hasn't 
  been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to 
  FeLV.  Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack.  He was 12 
  years old and I'm pretty sure he was negative.  He lived outside with his 
  brother Click.
   
  He was acting a 
  bit abnormal yesterday and this morning.  I went out to give him some 
  canned food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from 
  me.  When I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with 
  his mouth open panting.  I thought he was already gone, but he was still 
  breathing.  I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not 
  responding to the oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils 
  weren't responding to light.  They recommended PTS since they didn't 
  think he would make it overnight.
   
  This has happened 
  so suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.  Clack and his brother, Click, 
  arrived as small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard.  They 
  were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click.  We were 
  never able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until 
  tonight.  I held him and told him that it was OK if he needed to 
  go.  We're pretty sure that he waited until we got home and made sure 
  that he was some place we could see him.  He could have just gone off 
  into the woods to die.
   
  This is never 
  easy. We're having him cremated.  Now he's with his mother at 
  Rainbow Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago very suddenly.  Now 
  Click is left without his brother and Mama.
   
  Could you please 
  add Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive?  He was a black 
  kitty with a white spot on his chest.
   
  Thanks so much for 
  listening.  This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years 
  (since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty & her 
  kittens).
 
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RE: To Elizabeth

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




Wonderful wonderful story 
Elizabeth!

   
   
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> I have this big sign out front (not 
  visible to> humans)...that says 'sucker' > over my front door. 
  This must be true, otherwise,> every feral cat and > creature in 
  the neighborhood wouldn't stop by Liz's> Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (my 
  > official name for my front porch).> > Year before last, 
  I noticed this possum on my porch> railing. I named her > 
  Pauline. She would climb up the rose bush and hang> out at night. She 
  was so > tame and so friendly. I was worried about her - I> 
  checked all her little feet > and her fur to see if she was hurt 
  because I just> didn't think it was > natural for a possum to be 
  so unafraid. > > I did some research online and found the 
  National> Opossum Society and gave > them a call. One of their 
  experts called me and> talked to me for about 45 > minutes. I 
  sent pictures so she could see if there> was anything to be concerned 
  > about. She told me that Pauline had just come to> trust me and 
  that she felt > safe there. She told me to feed her bananas 
  because> they just don't get > enough potassium in their 
  dietalso to feed her> cheese so she would get > enough 
  calcium. She told me not to be surprised if> Pauline had babies 
  nearby.> > Pauline won't eat out of my hand but she comes 
  very> close. She will sniff > the food in my hand and if I set 
  it in front of her,> she will eat it. She > loves bananas and 
  cheese...loves any kind of fruit.> > In time, Pauline came to 
  trust me so much that she> would let me pet her! I > don't 
  recommend this with just any possum as they> have 50 very sharp teeth 
  > and their bite is every bit as dangerous as a feral> cat's. 
  When friends, > neighbors, or family would come to visit - they> 
  would just friek when I pointed > out my "pet possum", Pauline. They 
  just wouldn't> notice her there at first and > couldn't believe 
  how friendly she was.> > Last year, Pauline had two babies -- 
  Pierre and> Pinkerton. They are very > trusting too and they 
  like to hang out on the porch> and love it when I give > them 
  treats.> > Mama Kitty stays on the porch a lot - she 
  doesn't> mind in the slightest if > they help themselves to her 
  food. One night last> winter, I opened the door an > startled 
  one of the younger possums. He jumped> right in the cat bed with 
  > Mama Kitty LOL Neither one of them seemed to mind> the 
  other.> > I know a lot of you are suckers for all 
  creatures> great and small too and > thought you might get a 
  kick out of my little story> :-)> > Hope everyone has a 
  good weekend. Wishing health> and a good day to all the > 
  kitties too.> > elizabeth> 
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RE: Question about food/feeding

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




Great 
to hear your guys are all as healthy and "creative" as ever Karen!. (I loved all 
the descriptions you gave them back in the spring!)

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On Behalf Of clarissa- FloydSent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:05 
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Question 
about food/feeding

karen,
the group here gave me suggestions when my kittens turned up felv+. i had 
gotten 2 list's. 1 if i had to shop at a pet store such as petco and another 
list if i could find a place that sold the brands. of course i cant find those 
lsits right now.  
i started feeding my group Innova Evo canned kitten food and after a few days 
convinsed the last 2 to eat it. i also put out a little dry for them Nutra brand 
kitten food. both are more expensive than the purina ive alwase fed cats i owned 
in thepast but its worth it. their coats went from dull to glossy they are still 
putitng on weight and healthy with no felv health related problems. sorry i cant 
find that list for you. hopefully others here will chip in (they usually 
do)  ohhh yea i have 8 .. yea 8 4 were finally tested 
around 5 months and 2 were posative. humane society (i was fostering) wanted to 
put all 8 down. i havent botherd to test the rest of them, figure they have it 
or they dont. they are all staying with me either way. other than a tendency to 
get colds and diarea while they were little, these guys are the healthiest bunch 
of "sick" cats ive ever seen. they have wy too much energy and 
creativity some days. 
 
 

  I'm just wondering what brand of food would be the best to feed 
  Angel.  She is 15 weeks old and tested positive for felv.  I looked 
  at the Petsmart website but didn't find anything specific. 
   
  Thanks,
   
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RE: To Maggie

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Hi Maggie,
I don't have the beginning of this thread, but re throwing off FeLV, one
of my 5 positives has thrown it off. My vet who ran the test in his
office said there was no ambiguity--it's definite. He also said (you
guys will correct me if I or he has this wrong) that 1/3 of cats testing
positive throw it off. Hugs and good wishes to you and both your
furballs, Maggie~~ Kerry M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: To Maggie


Hi Maggie,

I'm sorry to hear about Izzy's positive test.  Yes, it
still is possible (at any point in time really) to
throw off the virus.  People have experienced their
cats throwing the virus off at just about any age. 
Since you know they are both positive, I wouldn't
worry with all the testing.  Maybe once a year just to
know.  Or not.  It really doesn't matter, imo.  What
does matter is that they remain as stress-free as
possible and that they get a really good diet.  No
grain in their food, which is most "commercial" foods,
including Science Diet.  Cats don't process grains. 
Also, supplements, like Lysine and/or vitamin C to
boost their immune systems will really help.  I don't
know how much vit. C to administer, but a little more
research might get you that info.  Or, you could post
a specific question, with the subject being about vit.
c dosage, and I bet you'll get lots of answers.  Many
posters don't read all the posts due to lack of time,
but if you post a specific question, you'll probably
get a better response.  

I hope this helps, and good luck with your furbabies! 
Congratulations on Lucy's recovery!!!
:)
Wendy


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Re: Ty update

[Nina]

Wonderful news about Ty, Roxane! Very pleased to hear the kitten in him 
is coming out, he sounds so happy with you. Thanks for the update,

NIna

Roxane Baldwin wrote:

I know I don’t post that much but I do try and read the posts. I want 
to tell all of you who have lost loved furkids including groundhogs, 
I’m so sorry for your lose, my prayer and tears go out to you. For 
those of you just finding out you have a Felv furkid, I feel your pain.
I wanted to give a Ty update. He is a wild man, he has come out of his 
shell and has just blossomed. Even my FIV boy, Peep, seems to put up 
with him and lets Ty wrestle/box him without fighting/biting Ty away.
We now are guessing Ty’s age a little younger then first thought, he 
has so much kitten still in him, we are thinking him to be under a 
year, we thought about 18 months which I guess he still could be. I 
started to give him more freedom, he goes out every morning and helps 
feed the chickens and runs the yard before I put him away. Letting him 
outside that little bit has really lifted his spirits, he is a street 
kid and wants to kind of stay that way but loves the attention of the 
inside life.
His health has been wonderful, we will be having him retested in 
September.



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RE: Alex

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Title: Message




Sending prayers and lots of healing vibes for your sweet Alex, Sherry. I 
hope he's feeling better real soon. hugs, Kerry

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Hi all I was wondering if I could get some prayers for sweet Alex,he is not 
doing real well and he is at the clinic,Jen is doing what she can for him.He is 
anemic and just not getting any better.Thanks all
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RE: To Spay or not to spay

[elizamaggie]

Thank you for the advice. My vet automatically gives fluids and uses laser surgery, which I think would help keep it less stressful for her. I'm going to talk to the vet next week about it.
 
-- Original message -- From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I remember the incidents Hideyo mentioned happening, > and I think in at least a couple of cases the vet did > not use ISO gas and/or did not give fluids. I think > continually going into heat may be more stressful in > the long run because it's a continual lifelong thing. > Just my opinion. Hideyo is right though, it's a > personal choice and only you can make it. Good luck > Maggie. > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Definitely spaying (anesthesia) is more stressful > > than going through > > heat - I am in a similar situation with my baby > > Ginger who is also felk > > positive. I have another felk positive kitty, > >
; Tsubomi who has been > > spayed already, but I have not spayed Ginger due to > > the same reason as > > you are facing with Lucy. Ginger is doing well > > right now, but she can > > be very fragile and don't want to risk activating > > the virus and may > > trigger any serious symptoms... my vet agrees with > > me. It's a personal > > choice, but since I lost one of my babies after > > spaying surgery.. and > > hearing after someone else's on the list who lost > > two of her kitties > > (who were both felk positive four days after the > > spaying surgery), I am > > so scared to take that chance... > > > > > > > > _ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of > > elizama
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:44 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: To Spay or not to spay > > > > > > > > Good afternoon everyone! > > > > I have a question about whether or not to spay my > > Lucy. She was > > symptomatic from when I got her at 4 months until > > about a month ago but > > now seems to be pretty healthy. Izzie was spayed a > > few weeks ago but > > they wanted to wait to do Lucy until she had been > > healthy for a while. > > The spaying was very stressful on Izzie and she got > > quite sick afterward > > but has recovered. We didn't know she was Felv + > > until after the > > surgery. Lucy has gone into heat twice already and I > > think we're gearing > > up for the next round. It is very stressfu
l on her > > and the last time by > > day 7 her energy seemed really drained and she > > vomited a few times which > > I attributed to the stress on her body - the poor > > thing just can't > > relax! So my question is, what is more stressful, > > going into heat or > > having the spay surgery. The vet doesn't think it's > > a problem to have > > her unspayed as she is strictly an indoor cat - > > although I do worry > > about what would happen if she got out. I am biased > > toward having her > > spay ed not just because of the stress on her but > > also because the > > stress of her being in heat on me, the constant > > all-night yoweling gets > > to be a lot. But can't help but feel that by > > deciding to get her spayed > > I could be killing her. Thoughts? Does anyone have >
; > any suggestions on > > how to make being in heat easier on her? Thanks! > > Maggie > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > 

Re: To Gloria

[gblane]

Hey Wendy,

Sure thing!  i'm about 45 minutes to 1 hr from Malvern, and go thru there every 
now and then.  I go to nearby Hot Springs quite a bit, and use a vet there 
sometimes.  She does a little bit of everything, nice to have around!

I enjoy Arkansas - tend to stay home with the multitude of kitties, but every 
now and then when I go north/south/east/west, I just marvel at the multitude of 
vistas there are.  I love the lakes and trees, and always  I enjoy the farming 
communities and land immensely.

I went 4 hours north to my high school class reunion a couple of weeks ago - a 
great touristy spot, Eureka Springs, like another world.

Glad you're moving here - let me know more, we'll have to get together.

Gloria



Wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Hey Gloria,
> 
> My husband and I are going to buy some land close to
> Malvern in the next couple of months.  My mother owns
> it.  My grandfather owned it before that; we have
> family there.  Are you close to Malvern?  We just love
> Arkansas.  We've been there three times in the last
> year: Petit Jean, Lake Catherine, Mount Magazine, and
> Mount Nebo.  Love it there!
> 
> 
> Wendy
> 
> --- Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > SHOOT - I've got some great ones here in Arkansas,
> > Karen!  Any  
> > purrsonality preferences?  I have Deva - a very
> > quiet Russian Blue  
> > one, sits around a lot.   Also Santana, a black FIV
> > cat - very sweet  
> > boy.
> > 
> > Gloria
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey everyone
> > > I have an adopter with a Fiv positive looking for
> > a companion. I  
> > > have a fiv female.but she wants a male.
> > Anyone? She is  
> > > located in Texas
> > >
> > > see our available orphans at:
> > > http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
> > > Karen 817-453-2969
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: To Gloria

[gblane]

Hey Wendy,

Sure thing!  i'm about 45 minutes to 1 hr from Malvern, and go thru there every 
now and then.  I go to nearby Hot Springs quite a bit, and use a vet there 
sometimes.  She does a little bit of everything, nice to have around!

I enjoy Arkansas - tend to stay home with the multitude of kitties, but every 
now and then when I go north/south/east/west, I just marvel at the multitude of 
vistas there are.  I love the lakes and trees, and always  I enjoy the farming 
communities and land immensely.

I went 4 hours north to my high school class reunion a couple of weeks ago - a 
great touristy spot, Eureka Springs, like another world.

Glad you're moving here - let me know more, we'll have to get together.

Gloria



Wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Hey Gloria,
> 
> My husband and I are going to buy some land close to
> Malvern in the next couple of months.  My mother owns
> it.  My grandfather owned it before that; we have
> family there.  Are you close to Malvern?  We just love
> Arkansas.  We've been there three times in the last
> year: Petit Jean, Lake Catherine, Mount Magazine, and
> Mount Nebo.  Love it there!
> 
> 
> Wendy
> 
> --- Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > SHOOT - I've got some great ones here in Arkansas,
> > Karen!  Any  
> > purrsonality preferences?  I have Deva - a very
> > quiet Russian Blue  
> > one, sits around a lot.   Also Santana, a black FIV
> > cat - very sweet  
> > boy.
> > 
> > Gloria
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey everyone
> > > I have an adopter with a Fiv positive looking for
> > a companion. I  
> > > have a fiv female.but she wants a male.
> > Anyone? She is  
> > > located in Texas
> > >
> > > see our available orphans at:
> > > http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
> > > Karen 817-453-2969
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: To Spay or not to spay

[wendy]

I remember the incidents Hideyo mentioned happening,
and I think in at least a couple of cases the vet did
not use ISO gas and/or did not give fluids.  I think
continually going into heat may be more stressful in
the long run because it's a continual lifelong thing. 
Just my opinion.  Hideyo is right though, it's a
personal choice and only you can make it.  Good luck
Maggie.  

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Definitely spaying (anesthesia) is more stressful
> than going through
> heat - I am in a similar situation with my baby
> Ginger who is also felk
> positive.  I have another felk positive kitty,
> Tsubomi who has been
> spayed already, but I have not spayed Ginger due to
> the same reason as
> you are facing with Lucy.  Ginger is doing well
> right now, but she can
> be very fragile and don't want to risk activating
> the virus and may
> trigger any serious symptoms... my vet agrees with
> me.  It's a personal
> choice, but since I lost one of my babies after
> spaying surgery.. and
> hearing after someone else's on the list who lost
> two of her kitties
> (who were both felk positive four days after the
> spaying surgery), I am
> so scared to take that chance... 
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: To Spay or not to spay
> 
>  
> 
> Good afternoon everyone!
> 
> I have a question about whether or not to spay my
> Lucy. She was
> symptomatic from when I got her at 4 months until
> about a month ago but
> now seems to be pretty healthy. Izzie was spayed a
> few weeks ago but
> they wanted to wait to do Lucy until she had been
> healthy for a while.
> The spaying was very stressful on Izzie and she got
> quite sick afterward
> but has recovered. We didn't know she was Felv +
> until after the
> surgery. Lucy has gone into heat twice already and I
> think we're gearing
> up for the next round. It is very stressful on her
> and the last time by
> day 7 her energy seemed really drained and she
> vomited a few times which
> I attributed to the stress on her body - the poor
> thing just can't
> relax!  So my question is, what is more stressful,
> going into heat or
> having the spay surgery. The vet doesn't think it's
> a problem to have
> her unspayed as she is strictly an indoor cat -
> although I do worry
> about what would happen if she got out. I am biased
> toward having her
> spay ed not just because of the stress on her but
> also because the
> stress of her being in heat on me, the constant
> all-night yoweling gets
> to be a lot. But can't help but feel that by
> deciding to get her spayed
> I could be killing her. Thoughts? Does anyone have
> any suggestions on
> how to make being in heat easier on her? Thanks!
> Maggie
> 
> 


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Re: To Spay or not to spay

[wendy]

Hey Maggie,

No suggestions on making going into heat easier.  I
would spay.  Make sure to tell the vet to use ISO gas,
and give her IV fluids before, during, and after
surgery.  There is always a risk with surgery, but she
will probably be fine.  Going into heat is stressful
on kitties.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Our Clack is gone

[elizamaggie]

I'm so sorry for your loss - such a tough thing to lose two in one month! How wonderful that despite his feral nature he knew he could come to you for comfort. 
 
I do have to say that I love their names, Click and Clack - we're big fans of Car Talk around here and I work around the corner from Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, their "attorney's" office. 
-- Original message -- From: "Tim Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Hey everyone,
 
I know it hasn't been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to FeLV.  Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack.  He was 12 years old and I'm pretty sure he was negative.  He lived outside with his brother Click.
 
He was acting a bit abnormal yesterday and this morning.  I went out to give him some canned food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from me.  When I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with his mouth open panting.  I thought he was already gone, but he was still breathing.  I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not responding to the oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils weren't responding to light.  They recommended PTS since they didn't think he would make it overnight.
 
This has happened so suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.  Clack and his brother, Click, arrived as small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard.  They were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click.  We were never able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until tonight.  I held him and told him that it was OK if he needed to go.  We're pretty sure that he waited until we got home and made sure that he was some place we could see him.  He could have just gone off into the woods to die.
 
This is never easy. We're having him cremated.  Now he's with his mother at Rainbow Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago very suddenly.  Now Click is left without his brother and Mama.
 
Could you please add Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive?  He was a black kitty with a white spot on his chest.
 
Thanks so much for listening.  This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years (since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty & her kittens).

Re: Our Clack is gone

[wendy]

I am so sorry you have lost your beloved Clack, and so
suddenly too!  Bless you for taking such good care of
him all these years and for loving him.  He loves you
for it.

:)
Wendy

--- Tim Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> 
> I know it hasn't been that long ago that I reported
> that we had lost our
> Miss Kitty to FeLV.  Now, not even a month later
> we've lost Clack.  He was
> 12 years old and I'm pretty sure he was negative. 
> He lived outside with his
> brother Click.
> 
> He was acting a bit abnormal yesterday and this
> morning.  I went out to give
> him some canned food that he dearly loves and he ran
> off into the woods away
> from me.  When I got home tonight, he was lying on
> his side under our van
> with his mouth open panting.  I thought he was
> already gone, but he was
> still breathing.  I rushed him to the vet and they
> told us that he was not
> responding to the oxygen, that he had a mass in his
> chest and that his
> pupils weren't responding to light.  They
> recommended PTS since they didn't
> think he would make it overnight.
> 
> This has happened so suddenly.  I'm numb with shock.
>  Clack and his brother,
> Click, arrived as small kittens when their mom
> showed up in our yard.  They
> were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty
> and Click.  We were never
> able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until
> tonight.  I held him and
> told him that it was OK if he needed to go.  We're
> pretty sure that he
> waited until we got home and made sure that he was
> some place we could see
> him.  He could have just gone off into the woods to
> die.
> 
> This is never easy. We're having him cremated.  Now
> he's with his mother at
> Rainbow Bridge.  She passed away a few years ago
> very suddenly.  Now Click
> is left without his brother and Mama.
> 
> Could you please add Clack to the Candlelight
> Service as a non positive?  He
> was a black kitty with a white spot on his chest.
> 
> Thanks so much for listening.  This group has been
> there for me a lot in the
> past 3 years (since I discovered you all after we
> rescued Miss Kitty & her
> kittens).
> 


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Re: Our Clack is gone

[moonvine]

I'm so sorry for your loss:(

To Gloria

[wendy]

Hey Gloria,

My husband and I are going to buy some land close to
Malvern in the next couple of months.  My mother owns
it.  My grandfather owned it before that; we have
family there.  Are you close to Malvern?  We just love
Arkansas.  We've been there three times in the last
year: Petit Jean, Lake Catherine, Mount Magazine, and
Mount Nebo.  Love it there!

:)
Wendy

--- Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> SHOOT - I've got some great ones here in Arkansas,
> Karen!  Any  
> purrsonality preferences?  I have Deva - a very
> quiet Russian Blue  
> one, sits around a lot.   Also Santana, a black FIV
> cat - very sweet  
> boy.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hey everyone
> > I have an adopter with a Fiv positive looking for
> a companion. I  
> > have a fiv female.but she wants a male.
> Anyone? She is  
> > located in Texas
> >
> > see our available orphans at:
> > http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
> > Karen 817-453-2969
> 
> 


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