Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[Gina WN]

Another sleepless one :)Gina in CA  "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Bonnie - you got that right, LOL. Sometimes I go to bed between midnight and 1am, then wake up at 4, then go back to sleep and get up at 9. It's a riot. Sometimes have to get up at 7:30 or 8am, it varies.BTW, I went up to visit my good friends in Appleton, WI, in May. THey just moved there. It was so gorgeous! Hadn't been to WI since I did a bike trip there back around 1979 - rode from Chicago up the lake and took a boat across to Michigan, then down again.Course I've gained weight since then :)Gloria- Original Message - From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Friday, August 04,
 2006 9:25 PMSubject: Re: slippery elm bark for nausea Thanks Gloria. I thought you would have an answer. BTW, you seem to post all all hours, one of your posts came over at 4am. I saw it because I was up too. :) another sleepless one, Bonnie in WI http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: "Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, August 4, 2006 9:20 pm Subject: Re: slippery elm bark for nausea To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org It's supposed to be soothing for the digestive tract. I've used it on numerous occasions for older cats with kidney, and for constipation and
 diarrhea. Gloria - Original Message -  From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: slippery elm bark for nausea  Will slippery elm bark help with nausea?   Thanks, Bonnie in WI   http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html  http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/  http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdfNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery   
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Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[Gloria Lane]

Yup - I made it to 5am this morning (after bed at midnight).  Something about 4 cats walking on me this time.Gloriain AROn Aug 5, 2006, at 2:25 AM, Gina WN wrote:Another sleepless one :)     Gina in CA  "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Bonnie - you got that right, LOL. Sometimes I go to bed between midnight and 1am, then wake up at 4, then go back to sleep and get up at 9. It's a riot. Sometimes have to get up at 7:30 or 8am, it varies.BTW, I went up to visit my good friends in Appleton, WI, in May. THey just moved there. It was so gorgeous! Hadn't been to WI since I did a bike trip there back around 1979 - rode from Chicago up the lake and took a boat across to Michigan, then down again.Course I've gained weight since then :)Gloria- Original Message - From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:25 PMSubject: Re: slippery elm bark for nausea Thanks Gloria. I thought you would have an answer. BTW, you seem to post all all hours, one of your posts came over at 4am. I saw it because I was up too. :) another sleepless one, Bonnie in WI http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: "Gloria B. Lane"  Date: Friday, August 4, 2006 9:20 pm Subject: Re: slippery elm bark for nausea To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org It's supposed to be soothing for the digestive tract. I've used it on numerous occasions for older cats with kidney, and for constipation and diarrhea. Gloria - Original Message -  From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH"  To:  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: slippery elm bark for nausea  Will slippery elm bark help with nausea?   Thanks, Bonnie in WI   http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html  http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/  http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdfNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery        Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines    		Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[Lernermichelle]

Yes. I have used it for that.
Michelle

In a message dated 8/5/2006 12:53:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Will 
  slippery elm bark help with nausea? 

Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[Nina]

Bonnie,
Is the slippery elm for you, or a kitty?  What's going on? 
Another, up at all hours human,

Nina

BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:

Will slippery elm bark help with nausea? 


Thanks, Bonnie in WI

http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html
http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/
http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf




 

Re: Boycott Chinese goods

[TatorBunz]

I signed it as well.
Also, sent to others in animal welfare and organizations!

In a message dated 8/4/2006 7:00:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just signed the petition. I am going to boycottChinese goods. I hope other people will do the same. I know it will be hard but like I told my husband wecan live without any of THEIR products.Cindy Reasoner--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted to the list a dog slaughter petition to the US Ambassador to China. Many of you doubtless had already signed.  I urge everyone to please at least consider boycotting Chinese goods. Yes, just about everything is "Made In China" -- but that's what makes it all the more imperative that we put no more money their way. China depends enormously on the U.S. In checking the source of everything we buy--which usually just means reading the packaging or turning the item upside down--and refusing to buy when we see "Made in China" we can start to make a difference. I've found often that the alternative is "Made in USA." Cash-strapped as I am, I'd rather pay a bit more--and that's not always necessarily the case--and buy American. It's a no-brainer.  I notice quite a few folks on the petition also urging a boycott or Chinese goods. Please spread the word. Pass this email on.   I'm no economist, but even excluding the animal brutality issue, it strikes me as a little foolish for us to be importing so much from a single country. Kerry


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Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[TenHouseCats]

let me tell you that instant-messaging services are GREAT for those of us who are up-at-all-hours--you KNOW who's up, so you don't have to worry about waking anyone, and long talks with friends make the wee hours more enjoyable! (but then, i've been trying to get nina up on im for at least a year now.)


MC
On 8/5/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bonnie,Is the slippery elm for you, or a kitty?What's going on?Another, up at all hours human,
NinaBONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:Will slippery elm bark help with nausea?Thanks, Bonnie in WIhttp://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html
http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf
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Re: Boycott Chinese goods

[BONNIE J KALMBACH]

Yes, it's good to contact the Chinese embassy or their tourism bureau,
whatever, to let them know you are boycotting their goods and services.
Someone said you can boycott some company, e.g. Exxon for despoiling the
environment, but you've got to let them know.

Bonnie

http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html
http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/
http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, August 5, 2006 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Boycott Chinese goods
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 I signed it as well.
 Also, sent to others in animal welfare and organizations!
 
 In a message dated 8/4/2006 7:00:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I just signed the petition.  I am going to boycott
 Chinese goods. I hope other people will do the same. 
 I know it will be hard but like I told my husband we
 can live without any of THEIR products.
 
 Cindy Reasoner
 
 --- MacKenzie, Kerry N.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just posted to the list a dog slaughter petition
  to the US Ambassador
  to China. Many of you doubtless had already signed.
  
  I urge everyone to please at least consider
  boycotting Chinese goods.
  Yes, just about everything is Made In China -- but
  that's what makes
  it all the more imperative that we put no more money
  their way. China
  depends enormously on the U.S. In checking the
  source of everything we
  buy--which usually just means reading the packaging
  or turning the item
  upside down--and refusing to buy when we see Made
  in China we can
  start to make a difference.  I've found often that
  the alternative is
  Made in USA. Cash-strapped as I am, I'd rather pay
  a bit more--and
  that's not always necessarily the case--and buy
  American. It's a
  no-brainer.
  
  I notice quite a few folks on the petition also
  urging a boycott or
  Chinese goods. Please spread the word. Pass this
  email on. 
  
  I'm no economist, but even excluding the animal
  brutality issue, it
  strikes me as a little foolish for us to be
  importing so much from a
  single country. Kerry
 
 
 
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
 SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Owner/Driver
 Check sites for available Siameses for adoption!
 
 http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/
 
 Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WA
 
 
 
 http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html
 
 http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html
 
 Petfinder.com
 Adopt a Homeless Pet!
 
 http://www.petfinder.com/
 
 http://www.felineleukemia.org/
 http://www.petloss.com/
 
 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
 https://www.paypal.com/
 
 
 
 http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
 

Smokey

[Dee Evan]

I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 
17-female  13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named 
Smokey.  I want to thank everyone for your comments of support.  I am 
very grateful.  I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster 
parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) .  My support where I live 
is very poor  limited.  Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st 
option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the 
tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets.  I even had to make the 
suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after 
reading the Feline Leukemia website.  I am freaking out about exposure 
to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly 
contageous!  The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so 
I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the 
boosters.  I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I 
place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats 
not to reach).  I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, 
etc.  I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting 
Smokey.  Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work  break down  
cry when I finally get home.  I am panic stricken over this whole 
situation  not sure what the right thing to do is.  Smokey has a right 
to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he 
is sick, it is not his fault.  Although I do understand there will 
probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do.  I have limited 
finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet.  
Help!  Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom  experience?  Thank 
you.


*_Smokey's Situation_:*
We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks.
I do not know how old he is.
As far as I can tell he is not neutured.  He is too weak to even 
vacinate for rabies,etc.
He is only 4 1/2 pounds.  He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat 
better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be).  He seems 
to be running a slight fever.
His appetite is very good.  I wish he would drink more water so I am 
going to make him homemade chicken broth. 
I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. 
He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days.
He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids  one for his ears).  He 
had a bacterial ear infection. 
He is a very loving, warm soul.
I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a 
laundry basket in front of the door  a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at 
the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats.  We live in an 
old farm house.  So I cannot install a window air conditioner because 
the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded.  There is a fan 
in his room. 


~Dee

Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[BONNIE J KALMBACH]

Nina,
  It's for my tiny hypernatremia kitty who never grew, Sylvie. She's
almost 13 now and the vet says she has CRF. She has recommended
phosphorus binders. I think I may start them fairly soon but she is
eating a little better and has to gain some weight - she's down to 2 lbs
14 oz. She grinds her teeth when she eats and leaves a thin layer of
food on her dish. She just spent a week in the emergency animal hospital
where she was on IV fluids and is much better (it cost a paycheck and a
half :) ) but I love my tiny half-meezer - make that a half snow-show
meezer.

Bonnie (who could probably use some slippery elm bark herself)

http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html
http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/
http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf


- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, August 5, 2006 10:12 am
Subject: Re: slippery elm bark for nausea
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Bonnie,
 Is the slippery elm for you, or a kitty?  What's going on? 
 Another, up at all hours human,
 Nina
 
 BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:
 
 Will slippery elm bark help with nausea? 
 
 Thanks, Bonnie in WI
 
 http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html
 http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/
 http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 

Re: Smokey

[kandbz_ mom]

Hello! I don't know if I will be of much help to you as I am pretty new to this also. My Angel kitty tested positive for Felv on July 17 and the vet wanted me to euthanize her. Luckily, I found this support group and I also have spent countless nights searching the internet for information. From what I have learned, the disease is contagious from the saliva and can't exist outside of the cats body for more than a few seconds. So, if you were holding your postive cat and he licked you, by the time you got near your negative cats, it has already died off. I understand your fear...I am also a HUGE jerms freak! LOL! But, from everything I have read, as long as they aren't all sharing food and water dishes and litter boxes, everything should be fine. Good luck to you,KarenDee  Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female  13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor  limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will "just be throwing money down the tubes" to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on
 Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work  break down  cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation  not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom  experience? Thank you.*_Smokey's Situation_:*We have
 only "known" Smokey for less than 4 weeks.I do not know how old he is.As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc.He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever.His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days.He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids  one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door  a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house.
 So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee 
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Re: Smokey

[Marylyn]

First, it is not as contagious as they are leading you to believe. 
Secondly, Dixie Louise was tested in June 2005 as an adult cat, and is the 
picture of perfect health over a year later.  My vets believe it is 
contagious and urged me to use a lot of caution since I had a cat who had 
been diagnosed with cancer.  We certainly did not need to add to her 
problems.  They have told me that the virus dies in a matter of minutes 
after exposure to air--it dries up.  No need, according to my people, to 
worry about changing clothes or anything like that.


Re his condition--try Apple Pectin, pysllium, and/or Fastrack or other 
probiotics for the diarrhea.  I know the Apple Pectin and pysllium are used 
to relieve constipation but my vets and I have had wonderful luck with it in 
relieving severe diarrhea in both cats and dogs--including those with bowel 
disease.  The probiotics will help restore bacteria killed by the 
antibiotics.


Good luck.  Hang in there.  You are doing a really good thing.





If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Dee  Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: Smokey


I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 
17-female  13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. 
I want to thank everyone for your comments of support.  I am very grateful. 
I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we 
can get him stabilized) .  My support where I live is very poor  limited. 
Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because 
I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one 
of the vets.  I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 
days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website.  I am 
freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling 
me he is highly contageous!  The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here 
in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer 
the boosters.  I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I 
place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not 
to reach).  I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc.  I 
even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey.  Sometimes 
I have to hold the tears back at work  break down  cry when I finally get 
home.  I am panic stricken over this whole situation  not sure what the 
right thing to do is.  Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot 
chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. 
Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is 
nothing more I can do.  I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, 
but I am not ready to give up yet.  Help!  Can anyone give me some more 
words of wisdom  experience?  Thank you.


*_Smokey's Situation_:*
We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks.
I do not know how old he is.
As far as I can tell he is not neutured.  He is too weak to even vacinate 
for rabies,etc.
He is only 4 1/2 pounds.  He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better 
but not anywhere close to where his stool should be).  He seems to be 
running a slight fever.
His appetite is very good.  I wish he would drink more water so I am going 
to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every 
other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him 
again in 8 days.
He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids  one for his ears).  He had 
a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.
I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry 
basket in front of the door  a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom 
so there is no contact with the other cats.  We live in an old farm house. 
So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical 
outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded.  There is a fan in his room.

~Dee






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Re: Smokey

[Gloria Lane]

The virus is very fragile and dies when it contacts the air.  I give  
my guys 30 units of interferon alpha daily, to support the immune  
system and keep the viral load down.  I personally don't worry about  
the chlorox and lysol stuff, the virus is just not that hearty.  I  
mixed negatives and positives at one time, as some do here, and will  
again except I have fosters for the rescue, so they're not all my cats.


Many vets are really not knowledgeable about this, so offer euth. as  
the 1st option.  Really too bad, too.


Best of luck,

Gloria


On Aug 5, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Dee  Evan wrote:

I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest  
ages 17-female  13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now  
named Smokey.  I want to thank everyone for your comments of  
support.  I am very grateful.  I am still on my quest to find a new  
home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) .  My  
support where I live is very poor  limited.  Both vets I have  
talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will  
just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one  
of the vets.  I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for  
him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia  
website.  I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats  
since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous!  The  
boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet  
coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters.  I  
don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them  
in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to  
reach).  I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier,  
etc.  I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting  
Smokey.  Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work  break  
down  cry when I finally get home.  I am panic stricken over this  
whole situation  not sure what the right thing to do is.  Smokey  
has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him  
just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault.  Although I do  
understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing  
more I can do.  I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar,  
but I am not ready to give up yet.  Help!  Can anyone give me some  
more words of wisdom  experience?  Thank you.


*_Smokey's Situation_:*
We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks.
I do not know how old he is.
As far as I can tell he is not neutured.  He is too weak to even  
vacinate for rabies,etc.
He is only 4 1/2 pounds.  He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat  
better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be).  He  
seems to be running a slight fever.
His appetite is very good.  I wish he would drink more water so I  
am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit  
of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I  
will need to worm him again in 8 days.
He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids  one for his ears).   
He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.
I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a  
laundry basket in front of the door  a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood  
at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats.  We live  
in an old farm house.  So I cannot install a window air conditioner  
because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded.   
There is a fan in his room.

~Dee

Re: Smokey

[Gina WN]

Hi Dee,I'm new to the list. I found out that my kitten Pippin had a faint positive result on her FeLV test. (She has a second test coming up in September.)I will share what my vet said. As long as I keep her litter box and food/water bowls separate from my other cats, she can have contact with my three cats.My vetdid not feel that the casual contact was a problem.Here is something that I read thatsupports thebelief that it is not easily transmitted:From Cat Chat http://www.catchat.org/leukaemia.html"... As a general principle, healthy FeLV positive cats should be re-homed to households without other cats (certainly without kittens). However, this should not be adhered to
 so strictly that the welfare of the individual cat is forgotten, since the risk of transmission between adult cats is actually quite small. 85% develop their own immunity to Feline Leukaemia, but if they have not been tested for this, or they are tested and found to have no immunity, they may be vaccinated against it, and that apart, they are simply not easily infected with the virus."I think it is a good thingyou are doing caring for Smokey.Take care,Gina in CA  Dee  Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female  13-male), with a newly
 diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor  limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will "just be throwing money down the tubes" to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats
 not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work  break down  cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation  not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom  experience? Thank you.*_Smokey's Situation_:*We have only "known" Smokey for less than 4 weeks.I do not know how old he is.As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc.He is only 4
 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever.His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days.He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids  one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door  a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room.
 ~DeeNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery  Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines  
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Re: slippery elm bark for nausea

[Nina]

Oh, I'd be so protective of such a tiny little girl!  Less than 3 lbs at 
13 yrs old, I just can't imagine.  I hate that teeth-grinding thing!  My 
Pistol Pete does that.  And now CRF?  Are you giving her fluids at 
home?  Depending on why you think she's nauseous, you could try Pepcid 
(for indigestion), or Reglan (works for muscle contractions), but I'd 
try the slippery elm first.  Have you asked your vet?  I've never had 
much luck with se, but I've only used it with Gypsy when she was in 
pretty dire shape.  The Reglan was what helped her.  You're a good mom, 
Bonnie,

Nina

BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:


Nina,
 It's for my tiny hypernatremia kitty who never grew, Sylvie. She's
almost 13 now and the vet says she has CRF. She has recommended
phosphorus binders. I think I may start them fairly soon but she is
eating a little better and has to gain some weight - she's down to 2 lbs
14 oz. She grinds her teeth when she eats and leaves a thin layer of
food on her dish. She just spent a week in the emergency animal hospital
where she was on IV fluids and is much better (it cost a paycheck and a
half :) ) but I love my tiny half-meezer - make that a half snow-show
meezer.

Bonnie (who could probably use some slippery elm bark herself)

Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk

[catatonya]

Wendy,I'm sorry to hear about your husband. I hope he's feeling better soon.tonyawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi guys,As always, I trust your opinion. My husband has beenhaving horrible back problems after laying this tilein our house, and he had an MRI last Thursday. TheMRI showed herniated disks in L4 and L5. We arevisiting a chiropractor right now, as his new healthinsurance does not kick in for another six weeks, andwe need SOMETHING done, as his pain level is quitebad. He is not having pain in his back, but sciaticpain, shooting down from his butt and down his leg tothe fold of his knee, all on his left side. Have anyof you had any experience, direct or indirect, withherniated disks? Any advice? I am not
 sold on thechiropractor, and would like a doctor's opinion, butwe have to wait six more weeks. The chiropractor istrying to push spinal decompression, but it's notcovered by insurance and is several thousand dollars. Also, any advice on pain management for this type ofinjury?Thanks,Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

RE: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!

[Susan Loesch]

Thanks, Diane. Some rescue group in Dallas gave Ramona my name and cell phone number -- I've often thought my cell number was on a billboard somewhere -- don't have a clue how else they'd have gotten it! (I'm in LIttle Rock, AR) Wish I had a spot for him; orange tabbies are my passion!Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What a gorgeous guy! Here's vibes that he gets the home he needs!Diane R.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:04 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!  Take a look at Goldie (he was Goldilocks until it was discovered that she was a he!). His rescuer, Ramona Dalton, needs help with him. Hopefully an indoor home.SusanL

Re: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!

[TenHouseCats]

susan, perhaps the word is out on the universal SOBOL lists? (SOBOL: sweet orange balls of love!)
On 8/5/06, Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, Diane. Some rescue group in Dallas gave Ramona my name and cell phone number -- I've often thought my cell number was on a billboard somewhere -- don't have a clue how else they'd have gotten it! (I'm in LIttle Rock, AR) Wish I had a spot for him; orange tabbies are my passion!

Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 

What a gorgeous guy! Here's vibes that he gets the home he needs!

Diane R.

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
Susan LoeschSent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:04 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!

Take a look at Goldie (he was Goldilocks until it was discovered that she was a he!). His rescuer, Ramona Dalton, needs help with him. Hopefully an indoor home.

SusanL-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!

[Susan Loesch]

An orange boy who ISN'T sweet thru and thru? Oh, my gosh!Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  LOL, my housemate and I have an orange boy who's the devil incarnatecrossed with a little old Jewish guy, always muttering curses under his breath. We consider him, er, a mixed blessing.  Diane R.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On
 Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:24 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Wonderful orange fella near Dallas,TX needs help!Wish I had a spot for him; orange tabbies are my passion!