Re: more on Lucy
Michelle what is cat fence? Sheila
Re: Prayers for Lucy
Hi Michelle, How is Lucy doing today? Kat (Mew Jersey)
OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
Sharon, how is Beeper?
I have been having problems with my emails, forgive me if you've already posted an update. How is Beeper doing? Any complications? Any more string sightings? Nina
RE: Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Title: Message Sending zillions of healing vibes, and a protective circle of lights, for your sweet Dharma, Hideyo. And big hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
all possible GLOW headedtoward you and Dharma.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32:07 AMSubject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
Samantha has feline leukemia
I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
I am saying many prayers for your baby. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 9:32 AM Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I dont let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
RE: Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Title: Message Thanks, Kerry we really appreciate it!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Sending zillions of healing vibes, and a protective circle of lights, for your sweet Dharma, Hideyo. And big hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hi Nancy, I'm sorry you had to find us, but welcome to the list. Gingivitis, (irritated gums) is a common problem with felv kitties. The weight loss is troubling though. Is that why you took her to the vet and found out she was pos? Did the vet do blood work? Is she eating the same as always and still losing weight, or is she losing weight because her mouth hurts her and she's not eating as much? I'm a fan of homeopathic treatments, but sometimes when our fur babies are in crisis allopathic measures are necessary, esp for acute conditions. Antibiotics have saved my kids on more than one occasion. I'm sure you are going to get lots of good advice from the list members. Do searches on the group page and ask as many questions as you like. Everyone is really supportive here. Everyone understands how upsetting it is to find out one of our babies has felv. Take a deep breath, we'll help you help Samantha as best we can. Nina Nancy Schneider wrote: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Thank you Barbara.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! all possible GLOW headedtoward you and Dharma. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32:07 AM Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
Re: Lucy and taking temps
I don't know Michelle. I hate those rectal thermometers. I bought a digital one at Wal-Mart yesterday that goes in the ear (for humans). I am going to try to use that to see if it will work with my kitties. I would be afraid I'd hurt one of mine using the rectal thermometer, or they would hurt themselves if they got away while it was in. I hope it's nothing with Lucy, but it seems that the blood could be indicative of what might be going on with her. Keep us posted. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Sleepy kitten+
A kitty hanging limp in your hands is a bad sign of something going on. Does she have a fever? :) Wendy --- marta gasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you very much for the clarification on corona virus and FIP, everybody. **She's just the sweetest little mush pile** that's what S is allright, and she reacts to being moved (ie when I'm cleaning the cage and must remove her bedding I sort of pick her up) not by squirming or tryng to get down but just hangs in my hand limp, when I set her down she growls and closes her eyes. Can Marigold be petted? Does she purrr/knead or other? We pet S and she purrs, turns on her back to have her belly rubbed and paws knead the air, she might stare at us dreamingly. Stop the pet and she curls up and goes to sleep.. My cousin has a kitty rescued as a kitten from a barn cat situation. Tippy is middle age now and she acts in a similar way, never meows, growls, sleep lots, doesn't play and she's healthy. I never wondered about it b/c I met Tippy when she was about 2 yrs..somehow I though a kitten that didn't play even if feral was a sick kitten, maybe not? I'll let everybody know what we find out and Nina, thanks for telling me about Marigold Marta Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Sleepy kitten+
Marta, Yes, Marigold likes to be petted. I think she reacts in the same sort of way. She doesn't hang limp when you pick her up, but she doesn't fuss or tense either. She's just very relaxed all the time. As far as I know, Marigold has never growled, but then that doesn't mean anything in particular. Do you think handling Suzette hurts her, or makes her uncomfortable and that's why she growls? As I'm sure you know, different cats use different vocalizations, maybe that's just Suzette's way of expressing herself. I would be concerned for her, but other than doing the tests you've already done and keeping a close eye on her eating/eliminating etc., I don't have any other suggestions. She's in my prayers that whatever it is that makes her different is nothing that will effect the length or quality of her life. Do your best to love her without letting it make you crazy. Is it possible to place her in a quiet home where she could have more undivided attention? Anyone who's looking for a sweet couch potato would love her! Nina --- marta gasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you very much for the clarification on corona virus and FIP, everybody. **She's just the sweetest little mush pile** that's what S is allright, and she reacts to being moved (ie when I'm cleaning the cage and must remove her bedding I sort of pick her up) not by squirming or tryng to get down but just hangs in my hand limp, when I set her down she growls and closes her eyes. Can Marigold be petted? Does she purrr/knead or other? We pet S and she purrs, turns on her back to have her belly rubbed and paws knead the air, she might stare at us dreamingly. Stop the pet and she curls up and goes to sleep.. My cousin has a kitty rescued as a kitten from a barn cat situation. Tippy is middle age now and she acts in a similar way, never meows, growls, sleep lots, doesn't play and she's healthy. I never wondered about it b/c I met Tippy when she was about 2 yrs..somehow I though a kitten that didn't play even if feral was a sick kitten, maybe not? I'll let everybody know what we find out and Nina, thanks for telling me about Marigold Marta
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo, I am doing your visualization, it did really seem to help Dharma last time. In fact, thanks to you, I do that visualization with Bea and Satch all the time now, even though they are doing well, as a preventative and it helps to keep me positive. I'll close my eyes and do this for Dharma all the time. Leslie From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop cryingwhen I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive - she is such astrong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oralprotocol to see if it makes her feel better..
Re: Lucy and taking temps
Hi Michelle, I take the cat's temps rectally and find that they normally don't mind as long as it's well lubed and they are relaxed (I use KY for it, but have used butter in a pinch - not as good). I've also used those cover slips before - also with lubricant - and could see how maybe the seam of the sleeve could scratch or (god forbid) give a paper cut - ouch. I seriously doubt that you poked hard enough to rupture anything and would just keep an eye on it, as I'm sure you are. Leslie From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Lucy and taking temps I don't know Michelle.I hate those rectalthermometers.I bought a digital one at Wal-Martyesterday that goes in the ear (for humans).I amgoing to try to use that to see if it will work withmy kitties.I would be afraid I'd hurt one of mine using the rectal thermometer, or they would hurtthemselves if they got away while it was in.I hopeit's nothing with Lucy, but it seems that the bloodcould be indicative of what might be going on with her.Keep us posted.:)Wendy
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Sending Prayers and White Light too... elizabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:15 PM Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don’t let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive – she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy, I'm sorry to hear that Samantha has tested positive, but happy you found us. This a great and very well informed group. I'm even happier that you have decided to keep Samantha and want to give her the best care possible. Bless you for doing this. About FeLV and transmission. I had a stray give birth on my porch about five years ago. I found her a home and two of the three kittens a home. The third kitten I named Cricket and ended up keeping. He was my baby. I had two others in the house as well. Two years after Cricket was born, he got very sick and ended up testing positive for FeLV. He probably was born with it. We got him over that illness and he was fine for two more years, until he succumbed to FeLV related anemia that I believe was brought on by the stress of having a lot of family living with us for a week during Hurricane Rita last year. I lost him last November. None of my other cats are positive. Two of them lived with him more than four years (they are 10 now) and another lived with him for two years (she's 17). They all shared the same water and food bowls and litter boxes, but no grooming. There are a lot of people here who mix. The big thing you will need to worry about is fighting. If blood or bites are exchanged, then the FeLV is more easily transmitted. Also, we've seen a pattern here that it is much harder for an adult cat to contract FeLV. Samantha may still throw off the FeLV virus, so you'll need to retest in several months. I think the statistics say this happens 40% of the time. FeLV is not a death sentence, whether she throws the virus or not. There are many kitties here who have led long, happy, healthy lives. The two big things in keeping Samantha healthy and helping her to throw the virus are her diet and keeping her stress free. Make sure she is getting a good, quality food (anything you can buy at Walmart does not count nor does Science Diet, which is what I fed mine before I joined this group; I feed mine Innova Evo now). Also, supplement her immune system by giving her L-Lysine (without propylene glycol) and Vitamin C. Others here use a few other supplements. She will have the upper hand by getting all the love that you will be giving her. I think that goes a long way in keeping any cat healthy. Please post if you have any more questions or just need an ear and good luck! :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Lucy and taking temps
Thanks, she seems fine. No blood using it without the sheath. I always use lube. Michelle
lucy doing better, knock on wood
temp down to 101.5 today, eating though not as much as normal, and walking around and jumping again. Still not quite herself, but I am more relaxed. Her blood work was fine on all counts according to the vet. I decided to hold off on the I-R for now and just continue with the clavamox and, if she needs it again, triaminic and/or fluids. Thanks everybody, michelle
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
Re: Lucy and taking temps
They make ear ones for animals too. I bought one on sale from Revival, and it does not work. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 1:39:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know Michelle. I hate those rectalthermometers. I bought a digital one at Wal-Martyesterday that goes in the ear (for humans). I amgoing to try to use that to see if it will work withmy kitties. I would be afraid I'd hurt one of mineusing the rectal thermometer, or they would hurtthemselves if they got away while it was in. I hopeit's nothing with Lucy, but it seems that the bloodcould be indicative of what might be going on withher. Keep us posted.:)Wendy
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia.She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other catsthat have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assuredshe was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the webto get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet.If anyone has any other suggestions
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Actually, anemia is one of the common symptoms of FIP as well, usually mild anemia, but as the condition gets worse their PCV could drop.. both of my Naomi and Peter were mildly anemic when they were first diagnosed, but Naomi got more anemic I hate anemia its too frustrating there arent many I can do though I know she is not at a point where she needs transfusion yet.. but if needed, I would try it, and would also try epogen.. I called about Acemanna again as you suggested when I was having a problem with Tsubomi unfortunately its still discontinued temporarily.. Presisolone is one of the treatments suggested for FIP havent used yet as FIP is auto immune disease, their own immune system attack their body.. I have been giving her moducare as immune balancer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Thats great- I am so glad that you do that with Bea and Satch power of intensions is very powerful.. my AC told me about the movie called secret its at true story and its about when you put mind to it you can accomplish anything so instead of trying to be all worry, I try to stay positive and inspiring and energetic around Dharma as I know that she get influenced by me, too.. please leslies, continue to visualize her with white beams of light.. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:02 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, I am doing your visualization, it did really seem to help Dharma last time. In fact, thanks to you, I do that visualization with Bea and Satch all the time now, even though they are doing well, as a preventative and it helps to keep me positive. I'll close my eyes and do this for Dharma all the time. Leslie From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive - she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better..
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo, I am sending you Dharma healing positive white light. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:32:07 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, I am sending you Dharma healing positive white light. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:32:07 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
Cat Fence-In
Sheila, Cat Fence-In is something you attach to the top of a fence to keep cats from climbing it. It has metal brackets that stick out and up and a 45 degree angle, and strong netting that you attach to the top of the fence and drape up over the brackets (and attach it). Cats can't climb the netting, so just hang from it and jump down if they try to go over the fence. The kit is pretty expensive, but worth it I think. My fence was really in the sun in MA, and after 3 years or so I had to replace the netting because it started decomposing from the sunlight. Here is the link: http://www.catfencein.com/. They have different styles for different fences, and there are pics on the site. The video on the site is for a different style than I have, but I have seen that style too, where the netting is not at an upward angle but instead goes out and down like a boxy overhang. They have that on the feral yard at the shelter where I used to volunteer. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 10:05:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle what is cat fence? Sheila
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Prayers for Dharma to feel better. White healing light surrounding her to keep her healthy. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Prayers for Lucy
Prayers for Lucy to feel better soon. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way?
Re: lucy doing better, knock on wood
I don't want to jinx it, but HOORAY! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: temp down to 101.5 today, eating though not as much as normal, and walking around and jumping again. Still not quite herself, but I am more relaxed. Her blood work was fine on all counts according to the vet. I decided to hold off on the I-R for now and just continue with the clavamox and, if she needs it again, triaminic and/or fluids. Thanks everybody, michelle
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you?
RE: Update: :( (not looking good) Sorry So Long! (Belinda)
There is no point of isolating Dukee even if he has FIP --- FIP is not contagious.. FIP is not a disease of the virus itself so much, but its about their immune system.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update: :( (not looking good) Sorry So Long! (Belinda) He uses this term on URI's as well. Use with caution and don't bring others into the home. Quarantine kitties inside. (which mine don't go outside) Give good diets. Clean litter boxes Keep everything sanitized is what he said. He said he figures Dukee had been expose when he was a baby before I rescued him. Then when his heart started acting up this was a start of everything. Suppressed Immune system. Vetis really sympathetic on this. This is which I do anyway. I clean house every 2 days with bleach when mopping floors. I scoop litter boxes several times a day. Dump every 2 days. The test results indicate high titers in which is possible for FIP I will pick up results when I leave in a bit. In a message dated 10/21/2006 12:16:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not sure what yourvet meansby treat them all as if they have FIP. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/
Taking temps
Wendy; The thermometer that goes in the ear is used with kitties too but ussually gives a lower reading. My fp takes both ear and rectal temp, never asked why the do the ears if it isn't too accurate but thre must be (hopefully) a reason. If you lubricate it well, rectal temp taking should be no problem. Is it just you taking temp? When I get a squirmy one I've somebody to help because you're right, if he moves suddenly it could hurt him but generally there's no problem. Marta Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
So glad to hear that they are so happy --can't wait to see the pics! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way?
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo, I am praying for your sweet Dharma. I am sending tons of positive energy to you and Dharma. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive - she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease - to michelle
Michelle, I cant remember I f it was you or someone else will steroid help anemia anyway? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
Couch potato
Suzette doesn't really hangs limp, I guess I exxagerated it, but she is like Marigold, she seem to just putup with it and then 'talks about it'. I don't have a house for her yet, I didn't look really because I thought she'd come around eventually. But you're right, she could be adopted out as a 'couch potato'.. Marta Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta
RE: FIP
I'm sorry, I didn't see the beginning of this thread. Terri is correct. FIP is a mutation in the Corona virus to a lethal form. Almost all cats have Corona virus,and at this point in time, on one can predict which cat will develop FIP. The screening is virtually useless IMHO. All it does is tell you how much exposure the cat has had. The FVRCP vaccines help protect against some virus associated with Corona. Dede. Not a vet --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terri, I overnighted 2 vial of interferon to you - they should arrived this morning - did you get it? I also put a couple of syringes with needles so that you have everything you need - let me know if you have given it to him - sometimes, it causes hyperthermia --- so be prepared.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIP I want to add that the lab that did the screening on Dukee said he had the Feline Corona Virusgo figure. Yet they say he isn't or is positive for FIP. I'm really screwed up now... :( In a message dated 10/24/2006 7:54:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Corona virus is highly contagious through feces and saliva... and it's very common for cats to have - but FIP is not contagious. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nina, the vet did a blood test because she was so thin and she isn't eating as much. She is scheduled for 3 tooth extractions because the vet said her tooth roots are exposed. Al least I'm grateful I know what is wrong. I really didn't have a clue. The vet gave her some depo and antibiotics. I may try interferon. From what I read it seems to work. I've had cats for 17 years and never had any experience with feline leukemia. Thanks for your words of support. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 10:20 AM Hi Nancy, I'm sorry you had to find us, but welcome to the list. Gingivitis, (irritated gums) is a common problem with felv kitties. The weight loss is troubling though. Is that why you took her to the vet and found out she was pos? Did the vet do blood work? Is she eating the same as always and still losing weight, or is she losing weight because her mouth hurts her and she's not eating as much? I'm a fan of homeopathic treatments, but sometimes when our fur babies are in crisis allopathic measures are necessary, esp for acute conditions. Antibiotics have saved my kids on more than one occasion. I'm sure you are going to get lots of good advice from the list members. Do searches on the group page and ask as many questions as you like. Everyone is really supportive here. Everyone understands how upsetting it is to find out one of our babies has felv. Take a deep breath, we'll help you help Samantha as best we can. Nina Nancy Schneider wrote: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Wendy, thank you for the info. I never knew you could mix feline positive cats with negative ones. Luckily, the other cats are not losing weight and have better kept coats. My cats don't bite. They generally just hiss at each other. I try to keep Samantha as comfortable as possible. I also have two dogs. But she has never exhibited any slightest hesitation about giving the dogs a whack when she wants to be left alone. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:07 AM Nancy, I'm sorry to hear that Samantha has tested positive, but happy you found us. This a great and very well informed group. I'm even happier that you have decided to keep Samantha and want to give her the best care possible. Bless you for doing this. About FeLV and transmission. I had a stray give birth on my porch about five years ago. I found her a home and two of the three kittens a home. The third kitten I named Cricket and ended up keeping. He was my baby. I had two others in the house as well. Two years after Cricket was born, he got very sick and ended up testing positive for FeLV. He probably was born with it. We got him over that illness and he was fine for two more years, until he succumbed to FeLV related anemia that I believe was brought on by the stress of having a lot of family living with us for a week during Hurricane Rita last year. I lost him last November. None of my other cats are positive. Two of them lived with him more than four years (they are 10 now) and another lived with him for two years (she's 17). They all shared the same water and food bowls and litter boxes, but no grooming. There are a lot of people here who mix. The big thing you will need to worry about is fighting. If blood or bites are exchanged, then the FeLV is more easily transmitted. Also, we've seen a pattern here that it is much harder for an adult cat to contract FeLV. Samantha may still throw off the FeLV virus, so you'll need to retest in several months. I think the statistics say this happens 40% of the time. FeLV is not a death sentence, whether she throws the virus or not. There are many kitties here who have led long, happy, healthy lives. The two big things in keeping Samantha healthy and helping her to throw the virus are her diet and keeping her stress free. Make sure she is getting a good, quality food (anything you can buy at Walmart does not count nor does Science Diet, which is what I fed mine before I joined this group; I feed mine Innova Evo now). Also, supplement her immune system by giving her L-Lysine (without propylene glycol) and Vitamin C. Others here use a few other supplements. She will have the upper hand by getting all the love that you will be giving her. I think that goes a long way in keeping any cat healthy. Please post if you have any more questions or just need an ear and good luck! :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:23 AM Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
The vet did a blood test and said that it came back negative for FIP but positive for Feline leukemia. They did a more comprehensive blood test and they said her bone marrow and cbc was normal. I don't know what it means exactly, but hopefully it means her disease is not that unmanageable. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:35 AM Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy, it's a very good sign that this vet didn't immediately suggest you put her to sleep. So many still believe the OLD info about contagion. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Keep this vet. He(she) sounds like a good one b/c he doesn't automatically say to pts for FeLV. :) Wendy --- Nancy Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:23 AM Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo,sending you and Dharma many prayers. SherryHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her!Hideyo Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Upside to a sleepy kitten
In my humble opinion, these kitties are perfectly dispositioned to be therapy cats. I would love to get one of my animals certified to be a therapy pet that we could go visit the children's hospital, or the senior home, but they think that everything is a toy and put there for them to chew on until they decide that it is not a toy. And that's just the cats. Marigold and Suzette might have the disposition that allows them to have a higher calling. Just a thought. :) Leslie Message: 2Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:53:52 -0700From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Sleepy kitten+To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedMarta,Yes, Marigold likes to be petted.I think she reacts in the same sortof way.She doesn't hang limp when you pick her up, but she doesn't fuss or tense either.She's just very relaxed all the time.As far asI know, Marigold has never growled, but then that doesn't mean anythingin particular.Do you think handling Suzette hurts her, or makes her uncomfortable and that's why she growls?As I'm sure you know,different cats use different vocalizations, maybe that's just Suzette'sway of expressing herself.I would be concerned for her, but other than doing the tests you've already done and keeping a close eye on hereating/eliminating etc., I don't have any other suggestions.She's inmy prayers that whatever it is that makes her different is nothing that will effect the length or quality of her life.Do your best tolove her without letting it make you crazy.Is it possible to place herin a quiet home where she could have more undivided attention?Anyone who's looking for a sweet couch potato would love her!Nina
Re: FIP
They arrive half hour ago. 1:05 pm my time Pardon me for asking do I use this as if I'm giving vaccinations? If so where do I inject this? I know when I was giving my husband his injections it was wherever he wanted it. Unfortunately the Interferon Treatment didn't work for him for his Hep C. it caused massive side effects as I mentioned to you. I'm not doing anything until I hear from you by email. Sorry my cell phone is charging don't have enough charge in it to call you directly andI'm using home phone for business as I indicated I have dial-up. It's easier for me to retrieve the emails when I'm on. You may email me off the list if you like. "Thank you so much Hideyoyou are a "Godsend"! In a message dated 10/25/2006 11:51:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terri, I overnighted 2 vial of interferon to you – they should arrived this morning – did you get it? I also put a couple of syringes with needles so that you have everything you need – let me know if you have given it to him – sometimes, it causes hyperthermia --- so be prepared.. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
It's not too surprising that the rescue group is less than up to date on these things. We have a wonderful rescue group in my town, but they're used to dealing with cats that someone has to leave behind or whatever, reasonably healthy and with a known background. Then they set up a temporary shelter for Katrina animals and were inundated with all sorts of unknowns, including some wonderful, loving cats that tested positive for FIV, FeLV, or both, and they were shaken. They did their research, though, and discovered that FIV+ cats can live just as long as others and never show any signs of sickness, and that FeLV+s, though their lives are usually shorter, can also be well and happy with proper care. Of necessity, they kept these cats somewhat segregated from the others, because they still weren't sure how contagious (or not) they might be, but they did find most of them happy new homes. So even when you're dealing with people who are generally animal-savvy, there's still a learning curve about these things. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia Samantha is two years old. The other cats are about the same age. They are all rescues. The rescue group said that all the cats tested negative for FIP and Feline leukemia.They are all vaccinated. Maybe that is why none of the others show signs of the disease. Samantha was the exception. When I first took her in she had red gums and horrible breath. I was told she probably has an allergy to her gums. Whatever that means. I think that the rescue group was clueless about her condition as well.All my cats are indoor. Only the dogs go out. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 12:56 PM Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
May all the angels watch after you both. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! So glad to hear that they are so happy --can't wait to see the pics! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way?
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
You and Dharma will both be in my prayers. Lance
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
See if you can find an alternative vet. There are lots of things that can be done. I've started Dixie Louise on Brush Away that a vet + alternative vet recommended. Dr. Maiers says the product has kept a number of older animals from being sedated for teeth cleaning. Dixie also gets Just Born as a treat sometimes or when she is not feeling well because of the colostrum. These are just things you may want to consider. Bless you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia It's not too surprising that the rescue group is less than up to date on these things. We have a wonderful rescue group in my town, but they're used to dealing with cats that someone has to leave behind or whatever, reasonably healthy and with a known background. Then they set up a temporary shelter for Katrina animals and were inundated with all sorts of unknowns, including some wonderful, loving cats that tested positive for FIV, FeLV, or both, and they were shaken. They did their research, though, and discovered that FIV+ cats can live just as long as others and never show any signs of sickness, and that FeLV+s, though their lives are usually shorter, can also be well and happy with proper care. Of necessity, they kept these cats somewhat segregated from the others, because they still weren't sure how contagious (or not) they might be, but they did find most of them happy new homes. So even when you're dealing with people who are generally animal-savvy, there's still a learning curve about these things. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia Samantha is two years old. The other cats are about the same age. They are all rescues. The rescue group said that all the cats tested negative for FIP and Feline leukemia.They are all vaccinated. Maybe that is why none of the others show signs of the disease. Samantha was the exception. When I first took her in she had red gums and horrible breath. I was told she probably has an allergy to her gums. Whatever that means. I think that the rescue group was clueless about her condition as well.All my cats are indoor. Only the dogs go out. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 12:56 PM Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy An average cat needs to eat about one 5.5 oz can of food each day.. If she is eating much less than that than that explains the weight loss... FeLV is spread in the saliva so it is possible to spread by grooming or food and water... It dies as soon as it dries out but if it is kept moist ... If the neg. cats are healthy and a year old or older they have a good resistance to FeLV... It spreads among strays that are in run down condition and under the stress of being homeless... It is very unpredictable and you have to be happy knowing that you gave them all the good life that you could within your means... It may be a good long while and they may be happy right up to the end and pass in their sleep or it can be a long illness and you may have to make the decision that you will have to help them to the Rainbow Bridge... This is a great group and we are all here to help each other with much experience and to be with you during the sad times when we are loosing one of our babies... Tad Nancy Schneider wrote: Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going onway too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 1:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, anemia is one of the common symptoms of FIP as well, usually mild anemia, but as the condition gets worse their PCV could drop.. both of my Naomi and Peter were mildly anemic when they were first diagnosed, but Naomi got more anemic – I hate “anemia” – it’s too frustrating – there aren’t many I can do – though I know she is not at a point where she needs transfusion yet.. but if needed, I would try it, and would also try epogen.. I called about Acemanna again as you suggested when I was having a problem with Tsubomi – unfortunately it’s still discontinued temporarily.. Presisolone is one of the treatments suggested for FIP – haven’t used yet – as FIP is auto immune disease, their own immune system attack their body.. I have been giving her moducare as immune balancer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ~St. Francis
Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
That's my approach. As I understand, an adult cat with a healthy immune system can generally repel the virus if casual contact is made. I have mixed with no problem, do not now because I have foster cats. There's so much that's not known about FELV. It's scarey how much vets do vary in their approach to FELV (also FIV). I never trust a vets opinion, I always research it if possible. But then vets can vary in a lot of ways. Gloria - Original Message - From: Nancy Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
It's definitely worth checking into. I've been googling here - the scientific name of this product is acetylated mannans. The injectable form of it is manufactured and marketed by Carrington Laboratories as Acemannan Immunostimulant ™ . Veterinary Products Laboratories sells the product for veterinary application but I'm wondering if it is available outside this milieux. I personally would like to talk directlyto the person who made the decision to withhold it from the market and hear their justification and why it is taking such an extraordinary amount of time. Their claim was that they were auditing it -- but I would also like to know their definition of audit. Ifind it odd that wound dressingscontaining acemannan in gel form are still available. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:34:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going onway too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Not trusting vet's opinions is a good rule of thumb. The lack of consistency is shocking, not to mention how many vets will throw up their arms and give up when a cat tests pos for either fiv or felv. I only use my vet's opinions as part of the means to guide my decisions. Research, research, research. I value the experience and opinions of the people on this list far more than any vet I've encountered. Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: That's my approach. As I understand, an adult cat with a healthy immune system can generally repel the virus if casual contact is made. I have mixed with no problem, do not now because I have foster cats. There's so much that's not known about FELV. It's scarey how much vets do vary in their approach to FELV (also FIV). I never trust a vets opinion, I always research it if possible. But then vets can vary in a lot of ways. Gloria
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
This might be a guy to talk to at Carrington Laboratories: Carlton E. Turner, Chief Executive Officer(972) 518-1300 According to this article - Carrington is the only manufacturer in the world...at least the raw materials... News from Carrington Laboratories Makes me wonder if there is a way to process one of these powdered forms to come up with the injectable formula. It isn't as though we would be selling it under another trade name. I'm going to be slammed at work tomorrow but if I do get a chance - I will call this man. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:52:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's definitely worth checking into. I've been googling here - the scientific name of this product is acetylated mannans. The injectable form of it is manufactured and marketed by Carrington Laboratories as Acemannan Immunostimulant ™ . Veterinary Products Laboratories sells the product for veterinary application but I'm wondering if it is available outside this milieux. I personally would like to talk directlyto the person who made the decision to withhold it from the market and hear their justification and why it is taking such an extraordinary amount of time. Their claim was that they were auditing it -- but I would also like to know their definition of audit. Ifind it odd that wound dressingscontaining acemannan in gel form are still available. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:34:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going onway too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
