That is so beautiful Hideyo! I love to sing to my babies too and Taylor particularly loves it :)Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Greg (my sort of BF) thinks I am crazy, because I sing everywhere so loud --- I just want every single living thing on earth.. air,
I'm not sure in regard to kitties, but I think green in humans is bacterial and yellow is virus. GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, my Dharma has some stinky discharge from her nose it had sort of greenish and yellownish color could this be bacterial or viral? I
Yesterday Lucy seemed on the mend. I had fasted her for about 12 hours, then gave her little bits of cooked turkey every half hour or so in the morning. She ate it the first 3 or 4 times and was in good spirits, no vomiting or diarrhea, so I went to work. Gray was at home. She ate a little more
On 10/31/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If they are unwilling to shift some cats to another foster or to work with you on this, then I suggest that you start working on placing the ones who are adoptable. Really, if you are the foster, then ultimately the cats are the rescue's
I never heard of that before- I get all
the records of all of my cats anytime I think you should push
there is no legal ground for them not to .. its probably their internal policy
to protect themselves from something in the future.
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My vet says the medical records are the physical property of the practice and it is entirely up to the vet whether or not they want to release a copy. Of course my vet will if I want.
I don't think it is right, but apparently it is the law.
I wouldn't hesitate to change vets and let them know
No, this is not right. I have never
had a vet refuse copies of records. People doctors have to up copies to
patients. There are some lawyers on this board. May be they can shed
some light on this.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of
Michelle, Did you try giving her flagyl? I am giving it to Inky once a day...1/8 pill is his usual dose..(250mg) He didn't even poop yesterday, but ate ok. I am back up to 10mg pred, too...I'm not so sure you shouldn't go ahead and up Lucy's pred, too even though she has URI...I gave Bandy lots
At 5:20 yesterday I lost my sweet girl Ginger .She had been with us for 15 years. Someone dumped her in my yard as a baby and she has been my protector ever since. Some people would call her a brown mixed mutt but to me she was a princess. She had a suddenheart attacklying at my feet at
Sheila, I'm so
sorry. Here are the gentlest of Bridge vibes for your sweet girl, and hugs
to you. It's wonderful that she went so quickly and painlessly, at your
feet.
Diane R.
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Hi all,
I ask for the records on Dukee they
won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if
another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only.
This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any
Vet records.
Is this right?
I can tell you I'm
that causes major very stinky
poopies!!!
On 10/30/06, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that causes major poopies!!!
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Terrie, this really
doesn't sound right. Even *people* can get copies of their medical records
on request. Maybe someone else here is more knowledgeable on the law
aspects, but since animals are considered property, and therefore Dukee was your
property, you should have a right to get a
It occurred to me that
possibly Terrie needs to write a letter formally requesting them. The law
puts a lot of stock by stuff in writing (yes, I am a legal secretary ;-)).
They may not want to fork them over (but why, if they have nothing to hide?) but
they may have to if the request is
I don't think they want to take them off my hands. Most of the ones I have are either domestics (they are a Siamese rescue) or cats with chronic health problems that are not going to be easy to adopt out.
I have an IBD kitty (black DSH) with recurring stomatitis issues. She's probably got some
I am my local animal rescue. Well, one of them, anyway:)
On 10/30/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would be the 10% dosage. You could even go .2ML safely, if my math serves me correctly. You could always donate part of the bottle to your local animal rescue... I'm sure
Shiela I am so sorry to hear about your sweet Ginger,to lose her so quick.Good thoughts and healing prayers to you and yours.Hugs to you. Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:20 yesterday I lost my sweet girl Ginger .She had been with us for 15 years. Someone dumped her in my yard as a baby
I am so very sorry.
Anita
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Subject: Dukee has went to the Bridge... :(
I
wanted to let you all know Dukee passed away this morning.
I'm
trying so hard to
Terri,
Thank you for taking such good care of Dukee. With all the prayers sent up for him I am sure there was a great number of fur babies and human pet lovers waiting to welcome him with open arms. I pray your heart will heal soon. Sheila
I think so too, but that would hurt a lot of cats. It isn't like it is just a business I would be suing. If it was - I would be suing them already.
On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm no lawyer, but that seems pretty clear to me. If that is the entire contract then
If they are unwilling to shift some cats to another foster or to work with you on this, then I suggest that you start working on placing the ones who are adoptable. Really, if you are the foster, then ultimately the cats are the rescue's responsibility. They should not have overloaded you so badly
I would change vets and have ALL vet records from that vet transferred to the new one.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know all I wanted was copies of them and nothing more. I have to admit it does make me a little suspicious though.Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE
You know all I wanted was copies of them and nothing
more.
I have to admit it does make me a little suspicious
though.
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE
COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted
I'm so sorry for your loss.
On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sheila,
I'm so sorry to hear about Ginger. Regardless of what I have been through on Dukee I still respond to postings of whether they are cat or dog. Remember beauty is in the eyes of the beholder so it
Hi guys,
I hope you will forgive this post. I am not sure who else to ask.
I have 26 foster cats right now for one rescue group. The foster agreement for this group states that they will pay for all medical, and the fosters pay for food and litter.
Well, it turns out (after I get 26 cats) that
To some extent it depends on how the foster agreement is worded. Will they take some of these cats off your hands and place in other foster homes? What are they doing to get them adopted? Do they guilt trip you when you ask them to take some of them off your hands?If they won't help lift some
Sheila,
I am so sorry. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart...Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous
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Thanks...I take that asa compliment!
Actually have been Forker for a few years just never added the
new last name. I have been with my husband for many moons finally decided to
marry his butt...lol
In a message dated 10/31/2006 8:14:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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I am so sorry for your loss, Sheila. I will be praying.
elizabeth
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Subject: O/T Ginger
At 5:20 yesterday I lost my sweet girl Ginger .She had been with us for 15
I'm no lawyer, but that seems pretty clear to me. If that is the entire contract then they are saying you are only responsible for the food and litter, they clearly state they are responsible for "any" medical care provided you are getting preapproval. There is no caveat about waiting for
Then you need to do what is in the best interest of the cats in your care. That may mean doing your own adoptions. Just give them written notice and a deadline. My guess is they will do nothing and leave it up to you.Take a look at www.1drugstore-online.com You can buy a lot of basic meds
I would also report them to the State organization
that oversees vets...but get another vet to request the records
first. You need them.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal
Where are you located? I think I'd like to steal a couple of this "rescue's" fostersKelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 10/31/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are unwilling to shift some cats to another foster or to work with you on this, then I suggest that you
Well, I am in Austin, Texas, but they don't want to be stolen. They think everything is just fine the way it is.
On 10/31/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where are you located? I think I'd like to steal a couple of this rescue's fosters
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
Posted yesterday, and this question didn't get
answered. If Ki does NOT seroconvert, what are the
chances of my other cats getting it if i put him in
with them?
thanks,
Dede
When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service
of your God
Mosiah
My Vet always faxes me anything I ask for. Sounds to me like they
are worried about something, just my suspicious nature I guess :)
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I'm not sure it's legal to not give them to you, you have paid for the
services, I do know some vets charge a fee for it but I have never heard
of them refusing to give you at least copies.
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Hi, everyone thank you very much all your prayers
and positive thought for my little Dharma --
Last night, from work, I called home and asked Greg to check
on Dharma to how she was doing on the phone.. and he told me that he couldnt
find her anywhere she has been on top of the armoire
And I'm thinking if they're being such pr*cks about giving
you a copy of Dukee's records, they're going to do the very least thing required
of them if you do ask. Assuming you do push, and/or change vets and ask
for the transfer of records, you probably need to be very explicit and tell them
Hi Dede,
This disease doesn't seem to follow any rules. It's part of what makes
treating for it so frustrating. We talk a great deal about mixing on
the list. You might want to search our archives about it to see how
many have mixed and with what results. Most vets will tell you to keep
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That's
wonderful, Hideyo. I know exactly how you felt when you saw her eating. It does
feel like a miracle when they've previously been refusing food. Sending healing
vibes for your dear little Dharma. hugs, Kerry
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I am so glad Dharma ate some baby food! You are right about not forcing your wishes and will upon her. It's hard not to do though. I know you want so desperately for her to make it. I am praying and visualizing better health for her.Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi,
Crazy. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am in Austin, Texas, but they don't want to be stolen. They think everything is just fine the way it is. On 10/31/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are you located? I think I'd like to steal a couple of this "rescue's"
I just called the dept of health and they referred me to the
veterinary board of medicine and I spoke with a lady who said they DO
have to turn them over no later than 15 business days from the time of
the written request, I just wrote Terrie with all the info.
--
Belinda
happiness is
That is absolutely ridiculous. You have EVERY right to you cat's FULL
medical records!
Phaewryn
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I'm sorry Sheila, I've added your sweet Ginger to the CLS.
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Scary to think, and I hate to even mention it, but MAYBE there is something
they are hiding, and that's why they wont release the records, because they are
scared of a malpractice suit because of something they did wrong.
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!
that said, i know of a number of FIV+ cats who threw off the FeLV
virus as quickly and easily as normal cats doFIV cats actually
tend to be very hardy, and other than higher incidences of herpes
complications and stomatitis, are often the healthiest cats in
sanctuary environments. the classic
Kelley what state are you in? I would guess each state will have
different laws, in Washington they have to by law turn them over with a
written request within 15 business days, of course that won't stop them
from omitting things or changing things.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by
In my opinion if your other cats are healthy and vaccinated I would
worry, a healthy adult cat has almost 0 possibility of catching it and
if they did their healthy immune system would fight it off. This is my
opinion only.
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Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
Hi there,
I am in Texas. This is my vet's statement on medical records:
http://www.staroftexasvet.com/pages/6/index.htm
This is not because he will not release copies - he is explaining why a person may or may not be able to obtain copies from their previous vet.
The emergency hospital here
Terrie,
I am so sorry to hear about Dukee. You and your
husband are in my prayers.
Cindy Reasoner
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I wanted to let you all know Dukee passed away this
morning.
I'm trying so hard to type this to you it is hard
with the tears flowing.
I will go pick him up
Why did you take on TWENTY SIX foster cats?! Let me get the details
right... in a normal rescue/foster relationship, you would get a call from the
rescue group, asking you to please foster a cat. You would pick the cat up from
the shelter, and a foster plan would be formed at that time. You
Of course I meant wouldn't worry.
In my opinion if your other cats are healthy
and vaccinated I would worry, a healthy adult cat has almost 0
possibility of catching it and if they did their healthy immune system
would fight it off. This is my opinion only
--
Belinda
happiness is being
I am so sorry about Ginger. It is hard when we lose
any of our babies but when you have had one that long
it is especially hard. When I was around 9 or 10
years old I got a cat I named Thomaseena. She died
when I was 26 and it felt like she took a part of me
with her. It is so hard to say
Not all rescues have a "shelter." In fact, many operate with a series of foster homes. Nonetheless, the rescue has an obligation to take those cats back at any time. Any decent rescue will be aware of this. Don't take on more than you can handle in your own home in an emergency. If the other
With that in mind, maybe you need to get a lawyer
to write a letter to them if they do not respond to your letter requesting the
records. Keep detailed notes, dated and timed, as to every conversation
you have with them.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from
Ha! I didn't even catch that.
Belinda wrote:
Of course I meant wouldn't worry.
In my opinion if your other cats are healthy
and vaccinated I would worry, a healthy adult cat has almost 0
possibility of catching it and if they did their healthy immune system
would fight it off. This
Heh. Well, let me tell you what happens in this rescue, which does not have a shelter, but is a network of foster homes.
We have a Yahoo group. Pictures and bios of the cats are posted on the Yahoo group. If someone can take the cats they speak up. If no one can take the cats people will try to
This is wonderful news! I'm so glad she's doing better. Give that baby a kitty kiss from me. Thank you for letting us knowhow she's doing.
elizabeth
*Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*
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The foster parent shall be responsible for the food and
litter provided to the cat during its stay with the foster parent. Any medical attention required by the
cat shall be pre-approved byxxx and shall then be funded byxxx,
except in an emergency. If
emergency medical intervention should
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I'm so sorry Sheila. You must miss your
little Ginger terribly. I'm glad she found you all those years ago, and I'm also
glad she didn't suffer.
Sending healing vibes to you and your
family,
hugs, Kerry
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You are the person with the FIV+ cats and the 6 mo old kitten with
a weak positive, correct? I replied in depth to your questions last night, here
is the reply again:
Your FIV+ cats are much more apt to catch the FELV than your "healthy"
(non-FIV) cats. I would definitely keep this FELV+
Just to be devil's advocate here, I have read of at least one list member who had 3 of 6 healthy, adult, unvaccinated cats contract Felv after they had long term exposure to a false negative cat. One made it, two didn't. This does not seem to be the experience of most of the members on this
Wow, I lived in TX back in the early 80s up until 91 never had
a problem with getting my Pet Vet records either.
Especially since I was moving back to WA.
state.
Just to let you know I have spoke with a person of Veterinary
Board. She told me to write a letter of request and that they
My husband thinks Dukee died the same day he had the surgery
and they wanted to make the bucks for having him over the
weekend.
He is using some curse words right now. Not a happy
camper.
I just told him about my experience with the Vet trying to get
copies.
Normally, don't tell him
Yay! Good work Belinda, that's info we could all use at some point, I'm
sure!
Phaewryn
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It is not unusual for vets to wrap an animal
in a box/plastic bag for the family. My vets do it and I have had others
do it. It is a matter of people often do not want to see the little one
after he has left and secondly there are bodily changes that may be unpleasant
for the people to deal
Geez Terrie, as if you didn't have enough to deal with
right now. They always give me the records. I have a
habit of going through the chart when i am waiting.
They don't seem to care.
You have gotten some good advice. Those are the
things i would do.
God bless,
Dede
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Sheila,
I'm sorry to hear about your Princess Ginger. I always shake my head
in wonder at the people that abandoned the animals that come to live
with me. I feel pity imagining their ignorance about how special they
are and how much joy and companionship they missed out on. You,
however, know
That's sad, a Science Diet box I now cremate, but before I moved up
north (where you can't dig graves 7 months of the year due to frozen ground),
I'd had a cat that had been euthanised. The vet I used had special cardboard
"coffins". They even lined them with baby blankets (I now donate
According to the AVMA website, Veterinarians are obligated to provide
copies or summaries of medical records when requested by the client.
Veterinarians should secure a written release to document that
request. Perhaps you could contact your state board?
I understand how wonderful it was to get your
friend back in this manner. However, the vets I know very caringly use
boxes and, more often, trash bags for wrapping. I know the vets involved
in the trash bag wrapping. They are extremely caring and if they
knowyou are bringing a box of your
Last Spring, when Ember first tested positive for FeLV, I started
looking into treatment options. ImmunoRegulin came up, so I spoke to
my vet about it. I asked him if we could do it sub-q, and he
recommended that we not. At that time, I wasn't ready to give IR a
shot, so I didn't pay good
Okay, I have written a letter to the Vet requesting copies all
records on Dukee. As the gal from the Veterinary Board
suggested. I have my copy and a file of it as well. So it's in the
mail.
Will let you all know what happens whether I get them or
not.
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL
Are you fostering for the Siamese Rescue? if not
whom?
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE
COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted
Dexamethasone is a miracle drug. It works really quickly and really well. I hope it continues to work for her for a long time.
Michelle
P.S. how much did you give her?
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A couple of thoughts: The Royal Princess Kitty Katt
did not want to eat much but the following helped: very small bites of
deli ham--salt can help an upset stomach; Nutrical or an equivalent for added
calories; tuna or salmon mashed to pieces with lots of mayo--again salt.
Think of the
Hi,
I'd really rather not say, that's why I took the name out of everything. Like it or not rescue is a small community, and if at all possible I'd rather things remain civil between their group and mine.I don't care for a lot of thethings they do, but they have rescueda very, very large number
Ham lunch meat was the only thing Moogie would eat near the end too, that
and halfhalf. Go figure.
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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Hello, Tsunade threw up again today (twice) and did something that worries me. When she was throwing up, she was wobbly as if dizzy. The 2nd time she just threw up water and fur, but was so dizzy she fell over and her head was lying in the puke (she had her body on its side), and she just laid
It's ALWAYS good to keep things civil between rescues and rescuers. You
know the saying, keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer? Well, we
should all try to work together in our own areas of expertise and our own
directions in the rescue world, because we ALL want to achieve
That does sound scary! You mean advice aside from "Take her to the vet
ASAP?" Could be dehydration, that can cause dizziness in humans, I imagine it
could in cats too. Or, it could be that she was gagging so much that she had a
lack of oxygen and passed out (or got faint), I've almost passed
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