I also like Leslie's suggestions about asking how they would have handled the
situation again, etc. I think that having an animal companion can help people
who suffer from loneliness and depression; it gives people a sense of purpose
and someone else to focus their love and attention on. And,
I think it's easier to find the information that I might need. Good job! I
don't know if I have any links you can use on my site, but feel free to look.
Gina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Ok, so it was getting out of
Sending healing energy Lucy's way and praying for more time for you and she. I
am so sorry about this Michelle. I know how you feel; while I love all my
babies, my Tigger and I have a special bond that just seems to grow over the
years.
Gina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lucy's
I'm happy to hear this :) Please keep us updated with any more news.
Gina
Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michelle,
I guess there are some benefits of not being able to stay as in touch with the
list as much as I'd like. It's nice to tune in just in time to have things
getting better
Michelle,
Lucy is in my thoughts and prayers. If you are taking her to Red Bank
Veterinary Hospital in NJ(?) then she is in very good hands.
Renee
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:36:55 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
To:
May all the angels watch over you and Lucy. She will be frightened but she
will be with you and know your love.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
Maybe she needs a firm plan of action in case she becomes sick or disabled.
Who will care for the cat and where will the money come from? Who will care
for my critters is always a concern because I have no great safety net in the
area I live in.
Michelle,
If at all possible try and get an appointment with Dr Rogers Fred,
he is a leading oncologist and one that is used by and consulted with by
many members of the Feline Lymphoma group members. He is one of the
best!!! Prayers for Lucy, I hope it isn't lymphoma or anything
Good luck, Michelle, with Lucy's visit to the other vet. Many many prayers
coming your way from my house. I know what you mean about loving her more --
that is the way I felt about my Daisy who died in Oct. Sometimes one kitty
will just be -- for lack of better terms, a soulmate. Give her a
Oh Michelle, prayers going out for you and Lucy. You're such a
good mom to her. Hope the ride went ok and that we hear some
good news this afternoon.
Hugs,
Beth
Sending prayers for your darling Lucy, Michelle. By now you will
hopefully have a better idea what's going on. It's wonderful that you
got an immediate appointment with the best hospital. It's also wonderful
that she's still enjoying her food and eating well. Kerry M.
-Original Message-
Michelle,
I am sorry to hear Lucy isn't doing so well yet..I don't know why they won't
give you some dex or give her a dex injection..I know it works the fastest to
reduce the temp..It is almost standard procedure from any vet I have used for
dogs or cats here..It also hits any inflammation
My vet is closed and has been for days due to the ice stormI am so
worried about her. I am hoping it is due to the dry air, but no one else
has a bloody nose.
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
http://www.rescuties.org
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
Poor girlie. Hope it's just the dry air; are you boiling water or
anything to moisten it?
Diane R.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:20 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: Missy has a bloody
Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Lucy. I hope
you get better news at the vet office. I know what you
mean about loving all of your babies but there is one
that just captures your heart and soul. It sounds like
you are doing everything for your sweet baby. I will
be praying for both of you.
Michelle,
I will be praying for yall to have more good time together. I have one I
love more too.
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are
I will be sending tons of prayers for Lucy - she is a fighter and she
always has overcome all the things.. and I just have a feeling that she
is going to get rid of whatever she is fighting against and will get
better very very soon.
Hugs to you and Lucy.
Hideyo
_
From: [EMAIL
Oh Michelle,
Did you have the ER vets save the fluid for your oncologist to test?
Thank goodness you have educated yourself and know that the diagnosis of
an ER vet is not always reliable. I'm so blessed to not have anyone in
crisis right now, but reading your post sent all those fears and
Hi Kelley,
I remembered other list members posting about bloody noses and did a
quick search. Humidifiers seemed to help and someone posted about
possible ulcerations inside/outside the nose. They said to check for
calicivirus or herpes. How much lysine do you have her on? I'd try
either
The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her. The
things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured
intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection. She has some symptoms of each,
but not
enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis.
I think they did not want to give her dex because there is the possibility
that she is fighting some kind of bad infection, and dex is contraindicated for
that. Or that she has some kind of ulceration in her intestines, which dex
is also contraindicated for. I asked for it, believe me. I
Michelle, do give her a little while to recover from this morning. She has
been through a lot, being poked and prodded and tested. Unless you get a gut
feeling that she's definitely going downhill think about giving her 24 hours.
I think that is what I would do if she were mine -- but being
That is my first impulse too. Give her time to recover from her ordeal,
the car ride, the fevers, the testing, all of those things by themselves
are enough to exhaust her. You are there, you know best, but my first
thought is to give her time to regain her strength.
Nina
Susan Loesch wrote:
I'm so sorry they couldn't give you any better info, and more
importantly, something to *treat,* after all that. I tend to agree that
you should wait at least a few hours to let her recover a little from
the trauma. Is there something you can tempt her with without bothering
the IBD? If she
If something happens to both Bruce and I, my sister is our beneficiary.
We've made it clear, and she's agreed, that she will be responsible for
our animal's care and safety when we're gone. Having a plan would
certainly help, it's such a daunting task to even think about! I know
it's
I want to also. She is curled up sleeping now, but her back legs seemed very
unsteady when she stood up to change position, and it seemed like she kind
of collapsed back onto the towel. Apparently paresis, or rear leg paralysis,
can be a neurological sign of FIP, so this is scaring me. Of
Lucy may have FIP, in which case her only hope, small in that, is feline
interferon. From my past experience, it can take a few months to get via FDA
dispensation. Does anyone have some I could buy and then try to replace?? When
I
had it, I send some to someone else on this list...
Michelle,
I'm sure you're both exhausted. I'm glad she seems to be resting more
comfortably right now. Do your best to be vigilant, not scared. Have
faith not fear. If not faith in a higher power, or a higher good, at
least faith that you and she know what's best, faith in your own
She gets 250 mg of lysine a day.
She does NOT want her nose messed with. I have a new picture of her with 2
of her kitty friends I need to put on my website:).
On 1/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kelley,
I remembered other list members posting about bloody noses and did a
quick
Michelle, I am sorry that Lucy isn't doing well. I
hope she starts feeling better. I am sending prayers
to the two of you.
Cindy Reasoner
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The oncologist and internist can not figure out what
is wrong with her. The
things that can cause abdominal fluids are
Kelley, I hope that Missy's nose is due to dry air and
not anything more serious. Both of you are in my
prayers.
Cindy Reasoner
--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kelley,
I remembered other list members posting about bloody
noses and did a
quick search. Humidifiers seemed to help and
Michelle - please do me a favor and send me her blood work result right
way - I want to take a look at it - kitty with liver problem could have
fluid in abdomen ( my Gurfunkle did) - I just don't thinks she has FIP
for some reason - was fluid in straw color - I could get additional FOI
for you as
I'd go ahead and up that to 500mg a day and see if it helps. I don't
blame her for not wanting you to mess with her sore little nose. Pure
Aloe gel or a touch of vasiline might help though. I'd love to see her
new pictures.
Nina
Kelley Saveika wrote:
She gets 250 mg of lysine a day.
She
I know not everyone uses homeopathy, and it's not used like regular
allopathic medicine -- but I use either Arnica or Phosphorus for
unusual bleeding - usually Arnica. It works really well, I take it
myself for nosebleed, especially get it during the dry winter.
I gave it to my dear departed
I don't actually have all the numbers. According to the oncologist, her
liver enzymes were actually not that low-- he does not think she has a liver
problem. The fluid is clear and thin, not yellow or tacky like most FIP
fluid.
This is why everyone is so confused. She may have something
Michelle,
I can't even imagine what you must be going through. I hope so much that
Lucy will feel better and that you can get some useful information to help
her. You've both had a very difficult day. My heart and prayers are with
you both.
elizabeth
On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
Oh, man! I wish you lived anywhere except the USA! Feline Interferon Omega
has even cured FIP in some cases! I've been reading lots of studies about
it, and I really believe it can do miracles... but it's not LEGAL here yet!
How is she breathing?
Rear leg weakness can also be an electrolyte
I hope it's nothing too! I hate to even mention it, but that was one of the
very last signs right before my Moogie died, her nose began to bleed. It's
the reason I rushed her to the vet... but it was too late, they said she was
already dying, and probably wouldn't make it another hour on her own.
I just unsubbed from the list...(irreconcilable differences) but it was
being discussed that people were hiding it in frozen brownies to get it into
the USA to people. You may be desperate enough to sign up and ask them...
the list is:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/fiv-healthscience/
If I
Kelley,
I'm so sorry for your loss of Morgana.
tonya
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I noticed
something was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and she
was doing that awful head lolling thing
Kelley
I am so very sorry. It is always so hard but when it happens so
suddenly.Allwe can do is wonder. It sounds like you loved her very
much and took great
care of her.
Sally
On 1/15/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I
I just shipped some to Michelle - she is very exhausted right now - so I
am responding on her behalf.
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: urgent--
I'm working hard on getting some, a friend is in Mexico for (supposedly)
safe surgery, she's a nurse, she should know, and she's making inquiries- I
will
post or email when I have access to it (hopefully not if)
You can ask your vet to get directly from AbbeyVet in UK - they will
ship without FDA letter and 90% of the time, you will get it.
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:22 PM
To:
Hi Michelle,
Believe me I know exactly how you are feeling right now.. What sort of
infection does she have? Or do they know? URI? I guess I don't understand why
they won't give at least one initial dose of dex to bring the temp down and
help increase her appetite.
Have you tried any
At 12:05 PM 1/18/2007, you wrote:
Hideyo is right. Your vet can get it right away now,,She has all the
information,
Kelly
Lucy may have FIP, in which case her only hope, small in that, is
feline interferon. From my past experience, it can take a few months
to get via FDA dispensation.
I am taking Junior to the Vet tomorrow. His right eye still has glaucoma,
you can see it bulge and the cataract that is forming. He did not eat well
today. Just in case the vet is agreeable how do I get her to write the
prescription for alferon(Kelly)? Also I looked in the Archives and I am not
At 05:38 PM 1/18/2007, you wrote:
Just have her call the Pharmacy and ask for the ALFERON. They all
know what is needed. I would ask for at least 2 bottles to start,
That is about 4 months worth,
The phone number is 559 439 1190
or she can write a script for 2 bottles of Alferon,,anyway
I've used TF in the past. I'm not sure if it helps, some folks swear by
it. From the research I did on it, it can't hurt to try it. My
thoughts and prayers are with you guys. What's this about his ears?
Are they irritated from transdermal meds? I've used a tiny touch of
antibiotic
Thanks for letting us know. I sure hope it helps Lucy. I also hope it
helps Michelle to know that some is coming. I hate being at that point
where you don't know what to do next. Did Michelle tell you if Lucy's
temp is down? Blessings to all,
Nina
Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
I just shipped some
Thanks for the information. At times I think Junior has done well and at
times I am not so sure. Seeing how fast Pumpkin and Tiny died I treasure the
moments I have with Junior.
Oh Yes and with all this going on with my cats. I did not get Daisy fixed in
November like I had planned to do. I use
Hi everyone! Let me start by saying that my name is Jennifer. I am new
to the whole feline leukemia situation. We had a stray cat adopt us
right after Christmas. When he wouldn't go away, we decided to adopt
him. He is so sweet and loving, I am so glad my husband said yes!! We
took him
Aw Kelley, I'm so sorry about Morgana. I always feel like there might
have been /something/ else I could have done to save them. I think it's
part of the grief process. Even though I believe that their spirits
live on and we are always connected, death still feels so damn final!
It takes a
Hi Jennifer,
I'm glad you found us and so very glad Midnight found you. I take it
the antibiotics were for the abscess on his tail and not because he is
displaying any other symptoms of illness? Did the infection clear up
okay? How old does the vet think Midnight is? Adult, healthy cats
You are correct about the antibiotics were for the abscess, and the vet
seemed sure they were cat bites. I never heard about a faint pos., just
pos. The vet guessed he is about 8 months. He has no symptoms at all.
The vet said that he was shocked when the test came back pos. They
didn't
Pink tinged watery stuff is USUALLY vomit, and it turns pink when they have
roundworms. I'd have him dewormed, if you haven't already (and don't freak out
too
much if you see spaghetti-like worms in the pink stuff somewhere down the
road). It
COULD be urine, but that would indicate an
Thanks Phaewryn,
I'd never noticed tinged vomit with roundworms, good to know.
Nina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pink tinged watery stuff is USUALLY vomit, and it turns pink when they have
roundworms.
Put his scratching posts close to the places he is currently scratching, and
get some
double sided tape to stick on the places you don't want him to scratch, cats
HATE
tape and sticky stuff. They make a product specifically for this if you can't
find
any good double sided tape locally:
Pizza crust wont hurt him if there's no garlic or onion on it. That's one of my
cat's
favorite treats! You can even leave a little sauce and cheese on it for him.
A little belly wont hurt anything, morbid obesity can though. You just have to
find a
balance. A good rule is, if he starts to have
lol that is funny. forgive the poor typing. i am one handed now,
cuddle time. he loves to bite me and chew my fingers, is this like
teething?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pizza crust wont hurt him if there's no garlic or onion on it. That's one of my
cat's
favorite treats! You can even leave
It usually is that, can also be very high phosphorus, Fred has CRF
and is getting both binders for high phosphorus, now normal after
binders for 2 months, and potassium supplements for low potassium 3.7 4
is low normal. He doesn't wobble anymore. Still a little weak though
and has
I have to tell you that one of your links puts a little running cat in
the top right corner... I have to wait till later to check that site out
because every time I pull it up, Midnight sticks his nose to the
screen. It must be a girl cat! LOL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Put his scratching
Yeah, it's pretty scary to see too, a big pile of worms in a pool of pink tinged
vomit, seen it a few times... and makes me gag every time... I can assist in
surgery,
but roundworms make me sick! One site sums it up when it says nothing seems to
inspire as much dread and loathing as a pile of
Well, I will be sending Fred positive energy for his vet trip! Feeding tubes
are really scary, but can really help a lot too! Thanks for helping me out
on that one! I thought it was one of those two, glad it was both, now I was
right either way, LOL! I need to note that in a file and add it to my
http://ucat.us/smallcat.gif this one? If he likes it, you can use it to
entertain him
anytime you want! I have a cheetah too: http://ucat.us/bigcat.gif
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
LOL Midnight personally claims you as his best internet friend!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://ucat.us/smallcat.gif this one? If he likes it, you can use it to
entertain him
anytime you want! I have a cheetah too: http://ucat.us/bigcat.gif
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+
Hiya Jennifer -- and welcome!
Sounds like you've got a real snugglemuffin there :0) I bet he pulls
through this. Five of my eight cats were strays...varying degrees of
'feral'...some are still very feral to anyone but me. A couple were very
sick and beat up when they came to me and informed
In a message dated 1/18/2007 8:54:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hideyo is right. Your vet can get it right away now,,She has all the
information,
Kelly
Neither my vet nor the Senior vet at the clinic my cat goes to could, please
post further info.
Wow those scare me the bases look way too small, those look
dangerous to me, they look like they would tip too easily. I say this
because I know someone whose cat ran up one of those with the small base
and it tipped over and broke the cats neck, I would be afraid use
anything like that.
Got Fred's last labs right here:
Normal Phosphorus at Anetech lab is
*2.4-8.2* Fred's is 3.7, he was at 8 way too high
(CRF cats should be right around 4 and treat at 6)
Normal Potassium is
*3.4-5.6* Fred's is 3.7 so low normal
I think CRF cats want to stay between 4 and 5.
you don't
I have searched all my email archives and I can't for the life of me find
who recommended going to a compounding pharmacy to get compounded
transdermal benedryl gel for my Phelix's allergies (my brain is like a
sieve)...but Phelix and I just wanted to say thanks! (and please tell me
who you are
Anna,
How is Toby doing today?
--
Belinda
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Poor baby, she might just be exhausted. I hope it isn't FIP and I have been
praying for her.
Gina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to also. She is curled up sleeping now, but her back legs seemed
very unsteady when she stood up to change position, and it seemed like she kind
of
Re couch protection: Get some lacy knit throws and cover the areas that he
is likely to scratch--arms and exposed back. My cats don't like getting
their claws hung in the throws.
Trim the nails. If you never have, it is easy, especially since he is
young. Get the vet to show you.
Spray
Just a word of warning: Do not let your vet do lots of vaccinations,
worming etc at one time. This will put a lot of stress on Midnight's body
and is not necessary. There are various opinions on vaccinations.
Personally I believe, like my alterative vets, that we over vaccinate. This
is
He is giving you cat kisses. Wait till he starts licking you. By the way,
don't let him lick in one place too much. I let Dixie and. very
unintentionally, she took off a lot of skin. It took several weeks for the
places to heal. Because I was enjoying the bath and her attention and
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