Rompi
Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake. We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are going to do it between today and monday. Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription, that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to find where to access to that question. In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is definitely odd. Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already, and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo, and not to a stupid automated answer system? Soon Paolo
Re: Rompi
I think you can get a free Yahoo email address to use in addition to the one you have. I have one just to filter emails. Try that. I know it is a pain and you have to remember to check both sites but it may be the quickest way to go. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:31 AM Subject: Rompi Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake. We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are going to do it between today and monday. Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription, that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to find where to access to that question. In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is definitely odd. Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already, and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo, and not to a stupid automated answer system? Soon Paolo
Re: Rompi
Hi Paulo, You can use other email addresses for Yahoo groups to send and receive posts. I use several different email addresses. I am new to Gmail, but this is where I receive all my yahoo group posts including the anemia group and others. The only problem is with yahoo and sometimes for weird reasons email has bounced and you quit recieving it. You can got to yahoo to reactivate. Someone elase may know where to find your security question for the groups. I would just sign up again with a new user ID. There are some really good Groups there. Sally Davis On 1/27/07, Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake. We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are going to do it between today and monday. Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription, that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to find where to access to that question. In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is definitely odd. Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already, and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo, and not to a stupid automated answer system? Soon Paolo -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Rompi
I use aol and not yahoo but do not have a problem using the yahoo system. Go to the lymphoma group home page and look at the bottom for the list owner's email address and email her to ask what to do. Michelle In a message dated 1/27/2007 3:33:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake. We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are going to do it between today and monday. Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription, that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to find where to access to that question. In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is definitely odd. Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already, and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo, and not to a stupid automated answer system? Soon Paolo
Re: midnight
Thanks to everyone for your advice. From what I have read, I think that he is not spraying. Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying. I called the vet about having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and distemper. I am not sure how I feel about this. He is not going out so I hate to give him anything he won't need. They didn't gibe him these shots the last time he was there because of his fever. Guess I have to do it though. Thanks again to everyone. Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and wet, he had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone outside the box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior. That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing with their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface (the tail usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where problems often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Midnight - shots and neuter
Hi Jennifer, Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies shots. I'd check your county/state laws to make sure. You can, however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not licensed. I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to give distemper. If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that is insisting on it. Vaccines are a judgement call. You have to weigh the protection against the stress it might cause. You mentioned that Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick might influence you. I usually have my cats inoculated only for the first series. I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups. There is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary. You can always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual diseases. At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do his neuter. Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk. Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being intact. Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go catting around. It also makes them more aggressive toward other cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. etc. Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find a different vet. Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest procedures for surgery. Using gas instead of injectables, running IV fluids during surgery, etc. Take a look at the precautions suggested and talk to your vet about those too. Whenever any of my guys goes in for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward esp if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care. I don't know how hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but I feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody else while they recover. If the worst happens, I can always run them to the 24 hour er. Just my 2 cents. Hugs to you and Midnight, Nina Jennifer Madon wrote: Thanks to everyone for your advice. From what I have read, I think that he is not spraying. Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying. I called the vet about having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and distemper. I am not sure how I feel about this. He is not going out so I hate to give him anything he won't need. They didn't gibe him these shots the last time he was there because of his fever. Guess I have to do it though. Thanks again to everyone. Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and wet, he had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone outside the box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior. That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing with their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface (the tail usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where problems often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Re: Midnight - shots and neuter
Oh, and do tell whatever vet you go with about his litter box aversion to rule out any possible urinary problems. Nina
Re: transfusion question
good point, hideyo--see if one of the vet tech's from you vet's office would be willing to make a house call. On 1/26/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle – can you call around and see if there is any way that you can find someone to draw a tiny bit of blood to check on her PCV – they can do it in such a way that they only need a very very small amount to check her PCV – the fact that she is eating so much of baby food is so wonderful though – has she lost any weight? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2007 5:08 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* transfusion question Lucy seems more comfortable and happy, but also much more tired. She has hardly moved all day-- just once or twice she went into the other room to use the litter box, then got right back up on the futon couch. At one point she climbed onto the other couch a few feet away to lay next to me, and then later climbed back to the futon couch. She has been eating baby food when I offer it to her-- about 2.5 jars so far today-- and is grooming herself sometimes (like right now). But mostly she is just sleeping or laying there. So I am worried that her HCT and PCV have continued to drop. Her HCt was 16.5 and her PCV 18 last Wed (9 days ago). She has been on epogen since Monday (third shot today) and pet tinic. She is pale, especially her gums, but her tongue is still pink. I have not gotten her HCT checked since last Wed, because I do not want to bring her to the vet and draw blood until I need to, because she gets incredibly stressed and because I want to conserve her blood. So here is my question-- in your experience, does a cat who is anemic enough to need a transfusion still eat, groom, and purr? When Simon needed them he was like a dish rag and almost unable to focus on anything. But his HCT dropped quickly from lymphoma, so he did not have much time to adjust. My Buddy's HCT was at 8 before he died, and he was still walking around, but he was zipped up on dexamethasone, and was not moving around much when he was just on pred, like Lucy is, and not getting the dex-- and I do not know when his HCT got that low because he did not have frequent checks. If it is absolutely necessary to get her a transfusion to give the epogen time to kick in, I may do it, but really do not want to do it to her if I don't have to, do to how far I have to take her, the fact that I have to do it at an ER, and the fact that she gets abominably upset and depressed from going there. If anyone has any ideas or information about how cats normally look and act when needing a transfusion (i.e. just tired, or not eating and almost nonresponsive?), I would appreciate it. Thanks, Michelle -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Lucy update
Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to decide on a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad about that. She is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more energy since just getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline. The bad things are she had a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers had stopped with the clindamycin, which was one of the things that was giving me hope this is toxo rather than fip. The other bad thing is that she has so much fluid in her belly that she has gained almost a pound in the last few weeks. Although she is eating, it is almost definite that the full pound is fluid. The local vet thinks it very unlikely that toxo would cause this much fluid, and feels pretty sure this is wet fip. Michelle
RE: Lucy update
My tsubomi had fliud in her belly when we took extray and she was felk positive and did not have FIP - I am uncomfortable them telling you that it's FIP because of fluid - will Felk virus not cause fluid in her tummy like it did for tsubomi - may be epogen might be working for her, Michelle. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lucy update Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to decide on a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad about that. She is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more energy since just getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline. The bad things are she had a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers had stopped with the clindamycin, which was one of the things that was giving me hope this is toxo rather than fip. The other bad thing is that she has so much fluid in her belly that she has gained almost a pound in the last few weeks. Although she is eating, it is almost definite that the full pound is fluid. The local vet thinks it very unlikely that toxo would cause this much fluid, and feels pretty sure this is wet fip. Michelle
Re: Midnight - shots and neuter
Midnight is not licensed. That is not a requirement in my county. I was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the other cats. Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats. I am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before. He came to us about a month ago. I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about him getting the distemper. Maybe I will try another vet. Unfortunately there are not many vets in my area. I will drive if I have to though. He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him. I think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat to keep him company but I think he would get mad. He has a bad history of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats. In fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said was cat bites. Anyway, the search is on for a new vet. Jennifer Nina wrote: Hi Jennifer, Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies shots. I'd check your county/state laws to make sure. You can, however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not licensed. I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to give distemper. If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that is insisting on it. Vaccines are a judgement call. You have to weigh the protection against the stress it might cause. You mentioned that Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick might influence you. I usually have my cats inoculated only for the first series. I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups. There is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary. You can always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual diseases. At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do his neuter. Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk. Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being intact. Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go catting around. It also makes them more aggressive toward other cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. etc. Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find a different vet. Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest procedures for surgery. Using gas instead of injectables, running IV fluids during surgery, etc. Take a look at the precautions suggested and talk to your vet about those too. Whenever any of my guys goes in for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward esp if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care. I don't know how hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but I feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody else while they recover. If the worst happens, I can always run them to the 24 hour er. Just my 2 cents. Hugs to you and Midnight, Nina Jennifer Madon wrote: Thanks to everyone for your advice. From what I have read, I think that he is not spraying. Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying. I called the vet about having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and distemper. I am not sure how I feel about this. He is not going out so I hate to give him anything he won't need. They didn't gibe him these shots the last time he was there because of his fever. Guess I have to do it though. Thanks again to everyone. Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and wet, he had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone outside the box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior. That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing with their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface (the tail usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where problems often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Re: Midnight - shots and neuter
Jennifer, My veterinary clinic has similar rules about shots and staying overnight for any reason there...but they do not insist on vaccines for FeVL+ or geriatric cats (the front desk girls don't know this though). I'm about the dumbest person on this list - but in my opinion, he really shouldn't get shots OR have surgery if he has fever... You may have already done this -- but sometimes it helps to speak directly to the vet rather than the people at the desk. The desk people are educated in the general policies of the clinic but are not qualified to make a decision based on special circumstances. I've found that if I am very polite and ask that the vet call me at his convenience - just having a good conversation with the vet and reaching an understanding considering all the variables involved can have much better results. That is no slam on the people who work there - they are just doing their job..and when they get to know you - they can really be your friend. (not to imply that you haven't already done this...) At any rate -- prayers going up for you and for dear Midnight. Your love and care for him will go a long way in making him better. My father was a vet tech for years when he was working his way through college. He loves animals and would spend a lot of time with the very sick ones making sure that they knew they were loved and cared for. The vet he worked for told him that the death rate there dramatically decreased (even for the dogs with Parvo) after dad started just giving the sick ones the extra love and attention...and that was years and years ago. It truly makes a difference. If you do introduce a new FeVL+ friend for him - it might be a good idea to bring in a kitten -- someone who would automatically assume a lesser spot in the hierarchy and not challenge him for top position...maybe even a little girl kittie (spayed, of course...at least in time) Sometimes having a much younger one works out quite well. He just doesn't need to feel threatened. I think I friend would do him good. Best to you Jennifer - elizabeth On 1/27/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Midnight is not licensed. That is not a requirement in my county. I was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the other cats. Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats. I am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before. He came to us about a month ago. I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about him getting the distemper. Maybe I will try another vet. Unfortunately there are not many vets in my area. I will drive if I have to though. He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him. I think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat to keep him company but I think he would get mad. He has a bad history of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats. In fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said was cat bites. Anyway, the search is on for a new vet. Jennifer Nina wrote: Hi Jennifer, Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies shots. I'd check your county/state laws to make sure. You can, however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not licensed. I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to give distemper. If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that is insisting on it. Vaccines are a judgement call. You have to weigh the protection against the stress it might cause. You mentioned that Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick might influence you. I usually have my cats inoculated only for the first series. I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups. There is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary. You can always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual diseases. At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do his neuter. Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk. Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being intact. Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go catting around. It also makes them more aggressive toward other cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. etc. Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find a different vet. Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest procedures for surgery. Using gas instead of injectables, running IV fluids during
Re: Lucy update
It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is extremely visible to the naked eye-- it looks like she swallowed a small basketball. It is the way fip bellies look. All i have read about fluid with toxo says that sometimes some can be detected by x-ray.. Nowhere did it say they can get huge bellies like with fip. I am not saying i am ruling it out-- she is still on abx and I am hoping against hope it is toxo and she will kick it. It just seems unlikely. They weighed her and she has gained about a pound in fluid-- that is over 10% of her body weight in fluid in her belly. That is a huge amount. I weight about 120 pounds-- the equivalent with my weight would be if I were carrying about 15 pounds of fluid in my belly. Can you imagine? That's a lot. He said it could be why she is not walking around all that much now. Michelle In a message dated 1/27/2007 11:36:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My tsubomi had fliud in her belly when we took extray and she was felk positive and did not have FIP – I am uncomfortable them telling you that it’s FIP because of fluid – will Felk virus not cause fluid in her tummy like it did for tsubomi – may be epogen might be working for her, Michelle.
Denosyl
I am having what I believe is some success with 1 denosyl tablet a day on an empty stomach. My cat has stopped trying to eat litter (I had to change to shredded paper as litter, but he continued to try to find the other stuff prior to the denosyl), his gums are getting a fair amount of blood to them, possibly indicating that the progress of the anemia is slowing. The only other drug hes on right now is Interferon Alpha. Anyone else have any success with denosyl? From the little I've seen, I recommend it.
Re: Rompi
Go to the lymphoma group home page and look at the bottom for the list owner's email address and email her to ask what to do UGH!... excellent idea... it was just too easy for my twisted mind... Thank you Michelle! Paolo
Re: denosyl
No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts here has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any case, the post you read was my first on the subject. I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax. My cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only issue now is his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his persistent anemia, and transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad enough for a transfusion after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few times. He is actually doing well now, his last transfusion series was on 1/8. I started the denosyl on 1/10. Here is the link that can be used (I hope) to answer your questions about SAM, the product I used is pictured there, with specs- _http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp_ (http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp)
Re: denosyl
Did your vet suggest denosyl for red blood cell production? I read the info at the link you sent, and it does not mention using it for this. In a message dated 1/27/2007 1:13:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts here has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any case, the post you read was my first on the subject. I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax. My cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only issue now is his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his persistent anemia, and transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad enough for a transfusion after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few times. He is actually doing well now, his last transfusion series was on 1/8. I started the denosyl on 1/10. Here is the link that can be used (I hope) to answer your questions about SAM, the product I used is pictured there, with specs- _http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp_ (http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp)
RE: Denosyl
I remember Kelly L on the list emailing me something about that - a vet who was recommending to use SAMe for anemia - he explained how it works for anemia cat - Kelly, if you still have the information - could you post it again? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Denosyl Does your cat have liver problems? Is he anemic? Are you giving the denosyl just for that? I had only heard of it helping with liver problems. If it is for anemia itself, can you let me know the amount of SAMe that is in each dose you give him? I would not be able to get denosyl tday, but I could get SAMe from the health food store, which is the same thing just not dosed for a cat. I am sorry if you have already shared all the info I am asking you-- I have been tunnel visioned on Lucy and am not reading all posts lately. thanks, Michelle In a message dated 1/27/2007 12:32:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am having what I believe is some success with 1 denosyl tablet a day on an empty stomach. My cat has stopped trying to eat litter (I had to change to shredded paper as litter, but he continued to try to find the other stuff prior to the denosyl), his gums are getting a fair amount of blood to them, possibly indicating that the progress of the anemia is slowing. The only other drug hes on right now is Interferon Alpha. Anyone else have any success with denosyl? From the little I've seen, I recommend it.
RE: Lucy update
My Garfunkle did get a huge belly from his liver problem - He could barely walk because of it - he was very uncomfortable - like he had 10 kittens in his tummy look - Did a vet suggest for lasix for something to get rid of fluid - though I always get nervous about potential kidney damage by using lasix.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Lucy update It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is extremely visible to the naked eye-- it looks like she swallowed a small basketball. It is the way fip bellies look. All i have read about fluid with toxo says that sometimes some can be detected by x-ray.. Nowhere did it say they can get huge bellies like with fip. I am not saying i am ruling it out-- she is still on abx and I am hoping against hope it is toxo and she will kick it. It just seems unlikely. They weighed her and she has gained about a pound in fluid-- that is over 10% of her body weight in fluid in her belly. That is a huge amount. I weight about 120 pounds-- the equivalent with my weight would be if I were carrying about 15 pounds of fluid in my belly. Can you imagine? That's a lot. He said it could be why she is not walking around all that much now. Michelle In a message dated 1/27/2007 11:36:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My tsubomi had fliud in her belly when we took extray and she was felk positive and did not have FIP - I am uncomfortable them telling you that it's FIP because of fluid - will Felk virus not cause fluid in her tummy like it did for tsubomi - may be epogen might be working for her, Michelle.
RE: denosyl
I am definitely trying for my Ayumi, too - thank you for the informaiton _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: denosyl No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts here has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any case, the post you read was my first on the subject. I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax. My cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only issue now is his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his persistent anemia, and transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad enough for a transfusion after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few times. He is actually doing well now, his last transfusion series was on 1/8. I started the denosyl on 1/10. Here is the link that can be used (I hope) to answer your questions about SAM, the product I used is pictured there, with specs- http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp
Re: Lucy update
Yes, they said they will give her lasix if/when the fluid makes her uncomfortable. I think she is breathing a little funny, but the vet did not think so much. The problem with lasix is that it leaches nutrients she needs and also risks damage to the kidneys. At some point she will probably need it. I can hear her exhaling, like she is having to push a little to exhale. The vet did not seem to think it was bad though. I think it is worse when she is in certain conditions. In a message dated 1/27/2007 2:17:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Garfunkle did get a huge belly from his liver problem – He could barely walk because of it – he was very uncomfortable – like he had 10 kittens in his tummy look – Did a vet suggest for lasix for something to get rid of fluid – though I always get nervous about potential kidney damage by using lasix..
Re: Lucy update
Hi Michelle, I am catching up on all your emails regarding sweet Lucy, and I am sorry that the internist thinks it is FIP. I don't know much about wet FIP, thus I don't know how serious it is. Considering her current health, I'm betting FIP is pretty serious. I hope you are able to find a way to stabilize her, and get her PVC and weight back up. I'm glad to hear her PVC was better than you thought. Prayers going out for Lucy and for you. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to decide on a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad about that. She is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more energy since just getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline. The bad things are she had a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers had stopped with the clindamycin, which was one of the things that was giving me hope this is toxo rather than fip. The other bad thing is that she has so much fluid in her belly that she has gained almost a pound in the last few weeks. Although she is eating, it is almost definite that the full pound is fluid. The local vet thinks it very unlikely that toxo would cause this much fluid, and feels pretty sure this is wet fip. Michelle Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
To Jennifer re new kitty with FeLV
Hi Jennifer, I have been reading about your new Kitty, and a few of the symptoms you wrote about sound like hyperthyroidism. Drinking water all the time and going around the house meowing, especially at night, are both symptoms. We have a cat with hyper T. To check for it, you have to get a T4 test at the vets. If it's expensive, you might as well get a whole blood panel done. HyperT is more common in older cats. How old is your new kitty? :) Wendy 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Getting cat prescriptions filled on line
Is it possible to do this? Does anyone have any urls, or experience with it? Is it significantly cheaper? I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded. Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line
At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote: I do as much on line as possible,, Kelly Is it possible to do this? Does anyone have any urls, or experience with it? Is it significantly cheaper? I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded. Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.orghttp://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007
Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line
Compounded into a salve to rub inside the ear? What sort of price have you been quoted? I know people in California, Florida and North Carolina who have used Elavil compounded as a salve, with great results. Where are you located? Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote: I do as much on line as possible,, Kelly Is it possible to do this? Does anyone have any urls, or experience with it? Is it significantly cheaper? I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded. Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007
Chris and Mylo
Hi Chris, I've been thinking about you guys. What happened at the Internist today? I hope no news is good news. Please update us when you can. Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo.