Rompi

2007-01-27 Thread Paolo
Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked
and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress
always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake.

We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are
going to do it between today and monday.

Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the
feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have
an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you
can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any
longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security
question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription,
that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to
find where to access to that question.

In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo
only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is
definitely odd.

Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already,
and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as
a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo,
and not to a stupid automated answer system?

Soon
Paolo



Re: Rompi

2007-01-27 Thread Marylyn
I think you can get a free Yahoo email address to use in addition to the one 
you have.  I have one just to filter emails.  Try that.  I know it is a pain 
and you have to remember to check both sites but it may be the quickest way 
to go.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:31 AM
Subject: Rompi


Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked
and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress
always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake.

We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are
going to do it between today and monday.

Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the
feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have
an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you
can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any
longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security
question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription,
that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to
find where to access to that question.

In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo
only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is
definitely odd.

Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already,
and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as
a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo,
and not to a stupid automated answer system?

Soon
Paolo




Re: Rompi

2007-01-27 Thread Sally Davis

Hi Paulo,

You can use other email addresses for Yahoo groups to send and receive
posts. I use several different email addresses. I am new to Gmail, but this
is where I receive all my yahoo group posts including the anemia group and
others. The only problem is with yahoo and sometimes for weird reasons email
has bounced and you quit recieving it. You can got to yahoo to reactivate.
Someone elase may know where to find your security question for the groups.
I would just sign up again with a new user ID. There are some really good
Groups there.

Sally Davis


On 1/27/07, Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked
and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress
always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake.

We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are
going to do it between today and monday.

Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the
feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have
an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you
can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any
longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security
question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription,
that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to
find where to access to that question.

In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo
only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is
definitely odd.

Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already,
and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as
a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo,
and not to a stupid automated answer system?

Soon
Paolo





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Re: Rompi

2007-01-27 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I use aol and not yahoo but do not have a problem using the yahoo  system.  
Go to the lymphoma group home page and look at the bottom for the  list owner's 
email address and email her to ask what to do.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/27/2007 3:33:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry  for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked
and needed  a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress
always induces me  sleep, just could not stay awake.

We haven't assessed more specifically  the type of lymphoma yet, but are
going to do it between today and  monday.

Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber  of the
feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I  have
an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as  you
can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password  any
longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a  security
question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of  subscription,
that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am  unable to
find where to access to that question.

In addition, even  trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo
only accepts @yahoo.com  addresses where to send group posts. This is
definitely odd.

Is it  possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already,
and so  receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as
a  legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo,
and not  to a stupid automated answer  system?

Soon
Paolo


 


Re: midnight

2007-01-27 Thread Jennifer Madon
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think that 
he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the need to 
claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet about having 
him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and distemper.  
I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going out so I hate to 
give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe him these shots the 
last time he was there because of his fever.  Guess I have to do it 
though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night warm and 
wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER gone 
outside the
box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are standing 
with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical surface 
(the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age where 
problems
often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
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Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Nina

Hi Jennifer,
Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies shots.  
I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can, however, get 
away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not licensed.   I 
don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to give distemper.  
If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that is insisting on 
it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh the protection 
against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that Midnight has 
already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick might 
influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the first 
series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There is a 
great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can always 
run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still has 
sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual 
diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do his 
neuter. 

Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.  
Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being intact.  
Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of inappropriate 
urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation burden, will cause 
Midnight to want to escape your house to go catting around.  It also 
makes them more aggressive toward other cats and he could get into 
fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. etc. 

Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated 
and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find a 
different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest 
procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV 
fluids during surgery, etc.  Take a look at the precautions suggested 
and talk to your vet about those too.  Whenever any of my guys goes in 
for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward esp 
if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care.  I don't know how 
hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but I 
feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody else 
while they recover.  If the worst happens, I can always run them to the 
24 hour er.


Just my 2 cents.  Hugs to you and Midnight,
Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think 
that he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the 
need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet about 
having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot and 
distemper.  I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going out 
so I hate to give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe him 
these shots the last time he was there because of his fever.  Guess I 
have to do it though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night 
warm and wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER 
gone outside the

box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are 
standing with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical 
surface (the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can 
be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that age 
where problems

often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html



  









Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Nina
Oh, and do tell whatever vet you go with about his litter box aversion 
to rule out any possible urinary problems.

Nina




Re: transfusion question

2007-01-27 Thread TenHouseCats

good point, hideyo--see if one of the vet tech's from you vet's office would
be willing to make a house call.

On 1/26/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Michelle – can you call around and see if there is any way that you can
find someone to draw a tiny bit of blood to check on her PCV – they can do
it in such a way that they only need a very very small amount to check her
PCV – the fact that she is eating so much of baby food is so wonderful
though – has she lost any weight?


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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2007 5:08 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* transfusion question



Lucy seems more comfortable and happy, but also much more tired. She has
hardly moved all day-- just once or twice she went into the other room to
use the litter box, then got right back up on the futon couch.  At one point
she climbed onto the other couch a few feet away to lay next to me, and then
later climbed back to the futon couch. She has been eating baby food when I
offer it to her-- about 2.5 jars so far today-- and is grooming herself
sometimes (like right now).  But mostly she is just sleeping or laying
there.  So I am worried that her HCT and PCV have continued to drop. Her HCt
was 16.5 and her PCV 18 last Wed (9 days ago).  She has been on epogen
since Monday (third shot today) and pet tinic. She is pale, especially her
gums, but her tongue is still pink. I have not gotten her HCT checked since
last Wed, because I do not want to bring her to the vet and draw blood until
I need to, because she gets incredibly stressed and because I want to
conserve her blood.



So here is my question-- in your experience, does a cat who is anemic
enough to need a transfusion still eat, groom, and purr? When Simon needed
them he was like a dish rag and almost unable to focus on anything.  But his
HCT dropped quickly from lymphoma, so he did not have much time to adjust.
My Buddy's HCT was at 8 before he died, and he was still walking around, but
he was zipped  up on dexamethasone, and was not moving around much when he
was just on pred, like Lucy is, and not getting the dex-- and I do not know
when his HCT got that low because he did not have frequent checks.



If it is absolutely necessary to get her a transfusion to give the epogen
time to kick in, I may do it, but really do not want to do it to her if I
don't have to, do to how far I have to take her, the fact that I have to do
it at an ER, and the fact that she gets abominably upset and depressed from
going there.  If anyone has any ideas or information about how cats normally
look and act when needing a transfusion (i.e. just tired, or not eating
and almost nonresponsive?), I would appreciate it.



Thanks,

Michelle





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Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread Lernermichelle
Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has  
been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to decide on 
 
a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad about that. She 
 is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more energy since just  
getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline. The bad things are she had 
 a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers had stopped with the 
clindamycin,  which was one of the things that was giving me hope this is toxo 
rather 
than  fip. The other bad thing is that she has so much fluid in her belly that 
she has  gained almost a pound in the last few weeks. Although she is eating, 
it is  almost definite that the full pound is fluid. The local vet thinks it 
very  unlikely that toxo would cause this much fluid, and feels pretty sure 
this is  wet fip.
 
Michelle


RE: Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
My tsubomi had fliud in her belly when we took extray and she was felk
positive and did not have FIP - I am uncomfortable them telling you that
it's FIP because of fluid - will Felk virus not cause fluid in her tummy
like it did for tsubomi - may be epogen might be working for her,
Michelle.


 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lucy update

 

Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check today because she has
been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10 and I would need to
decide on a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was very glad
about that. She is still super-lethargic, though, although she has more
energy since just getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline.
The bad things are she had a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers
had stopped with the clindamycin, which was one of the things that was
giving me hope this is toxo rather than fip. The other bad thing is that
she has so much fluid in her belly that she has gained almost a pound in
the last few weeks. Although she is eating, it is almost definite that
the full pound is fluid. The local vet thinks it very unlikely that toxo
would cause this much fluid, and feels pretty sure this is wet fip.

 

Michelle



Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread Jennifer Madon
Midnight is not licensed.  That is not a requirement in my county.  I 
was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper 
vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the 
other cats.  Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the 
vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats.  I 
am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before.  He came to us about 
a month ago.  I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about 
him getting the distemper.  Maybe I will try another vet.  Unfortunately 
there are not many vets in my area.  I will drive if I have to though.  
He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him.  I 
think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat 
to keep him company but I think he would get mad.  He has a bad history 
of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats.  In 
fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said 
was cat bites.  Anyway, the search is on for a new vet.

Jennifer

Nina wrote:

Hi Jennifer,
Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies 
shots.  I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can, 
however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not 
licensed.   I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to 
give distemper.  If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that 
is insisting on it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh 
the protection against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that 
Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick 
might influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the 
first series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There 
is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can 
always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still 
has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual 
diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do 
his neuter.
Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.  
Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being 
intact.  Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of 
inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation 
burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go 
catting around.  It also makes them more aggressive toward other 
cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc. 
etc.
Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated 
and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find 
a different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest 
procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV 
fluids during surgery, etc.  Take a look at the precautions suggested 
and talk to your vet about those too.  Whenever any of my guys goes in 
for surgery, (pos and neg), I insist on bringing them home afterward 
esp if the clinic doesn't have round the clock care.  I don't know how 
hectic your household is, I remember you saying you have kids :), but 
I feel like I can keep a more watchful eye on my guys than anybody 
else while they recover.  If the worst happens, I can always run them 
to the 24 hour er.


Just my 2 cents.  Hugs to you and Midnight,
Nina

Jennifer Madon wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your advice.  From what I have read, I think 
that he is not spraying.  Maybe marking (thank God he hasn't felt the 
need to claim me!) or peeing but not spraying.  I called the vet 
about having him neutered and they said he has to have a rabies shot 
and distemper.  I am not sure how I feel about this.  He is not going 
out so I hate to give him anything he won't need.  They didn't gibe 
him these shots the last time he was there because of his fever.  
Guess I have to do it though.  Thanks again to everyone.

Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Doobie cat started that... I woke up in the middle of the night 
warm and wet, he
had PEED on ME in my bed! He got neutered the next day! He has NEVER 
gone outside the

box since. In his case, it was a marking behavior.

That being said, spraying is when they back up to something and are 
standing with
their tail raised, and spraying urine out behind them on a vertical 
surface (the tail
usually shakes when they do it). Peeing is when they squat. Both can 
be marking
behaviors, not necessarily health problems. 8-9-10 months is that 
age where problems

often begin, as he's going through puberty at that age.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html



  












Re: Midnight - shots and neuter

2007-01-27 Thread elizabeth trent

Jennifer,
My veterinary clinic has similar rules about shots and staying overnight for
any reason there...but they do not insist on vaccines for FeVL+ or geriatric
cats (the front desk girls don't know this though).

I'm about the dumbest person on this list - but in my opinion, he really
shouldn't get shots OR have surgery if he has fever...

You may have already done this -- but sometimes it helps to speak directly
to the vet rather than the people at the desk.  The desk people are educated
in the general policies of the clinic but are not qualified to make a
decision based on special circumstances.  I've found that if I am very
polite and ask that the vet call me at his convenience  -  just having a
good conversation with the vet and reaching an understanding considering all
the variables involved can have much better results.  That is no slam on the
people who work there - they are just doing their job..and when they get to
know you - they can really be your friend.  (not to imply that you haven't
already done this...)

At any rate -- prayers going up for you and for dear Midnight.  Your love
and care for him will go a long way in making him better.  My father was a
vet tech for years when he was working his way through college.  He loves
animals and would spend a lot of time with the very sick ones making sure
that they knew they were loved and cared for.  The vet he worked for told
him that the death rate there dramatically decreased (even for the dogs with
Parvo) after dad started just giving the sick ones the extra love and
attention...and that was years and years ago.  It truly makes a difference.

If you do introduce a new FeVL+ friend for him - it might be a good idea to
bring in a kitten -- someone who would automatically assume a lesser spot in
the hierarchy and not challenge him for top position...maybe even a little
girl kittie (spayed, of course...at least in time)  Sometimes having a much
younger one works out quite well.  He just doesn't need to feel threatened.
I think I friend would do him good.

Best to you Jennifer -
elizabeth


On 1/27/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Midnight is not licensed.  That is not a requirement in my county.  I
was told by my vet that he is required to have rabies and distemper
vaccines in order to come into the vet for the surgery because of the
other cats.  Problem #1 is that he is there for check ups with out the
vaccines. #2 he is FeLV + so he should not be around any other cats.  I
am not sure if he has ever been vaccinated before.  He came to us about
a month ago.  I am not sure why but I have a really bad feeling about
him getting the distemper.  Maybe I will try another vet.  Unfortunately
there are not many vets in my area.  I will drive if I have to though.
He has only been here a month but we are really in love with him.  I
think he gets lonely during the day so I thought about another FeLV+ cat
to keep him company but I think he would get mad.  He has a bad history
of being attacked (when he lived outside) by the neighborhood cats.  In
fact, his fever was from an abscess on his hind parts that the vet said
was cat bites.  Anyway, the search is on for a new vet.
Jennifer

Nina wrote:
 Hi Jennifer,
 Technically most state laws govern that a cat has to have rabies
 shots.  I'd check your county/state laws to make sure.  You can,
 however, get away with not giving them rabies shots if they are not
 licensed.   I don't think I've ever heard of states requiring you to
 give distemper.  If Midnight isn't licensed, then it is your vet that
 is insisting on it.  Vaccines are a judgement call.  You have to weigh
 the protection against the stress it might cause.  You mentioned that
 Midnight has already had a fever, the fact that he's already been sick
 might influence you.  I usually have my cats inoculated only for the
 first series.  I don't do the yearly, or every 3 yr follow ups.  There
 is a great deal of debate about whether they are necessary.  You can
 always run a titer (using a blood test), to determine if the cat still
 has sufficient antibodies needed to protect him against the individual
 diseases.  At any rate, don't get his shots at the same time you do
 his neuter.
 Neutering is something that I personally think is worth the risk.
 Surgery and anesthesia is certainly stressful, but so is being
 intact.  Not being neutered, besides the pleasant side effect of
 inappropriate urination, and possibly adding to the overpopulation
 burden, will cause Midnight to want to escape your house to go
 catting around.  It also makes them more aggressive toward other
 cats and he could get into fights, or mate with sick girlfriends etc.
 etc.
 Tell your vet the reasons for your concern about having him vaccinated
 and if he still insists on it, (and if you decide not to do it), find
 a different vet.  Recently Phaewrn started a thread about the safest
 procedures for surgery.  Using gas instead of injectables, running IV
 fluids during 

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread Lernermichelle
 
It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is  extremely 
visible to the naked eye-- it looks like she swallowed a  small basketball. It 
is the way fip bellies look.  All i have read  about fluid with toxo says 
that sometimes some can be detected  by x-ray.. Nowhere did it say they can get 
huge bellies like with  fip.  I am not saying i am ruling it out-- she is still 
on abx and I am  hoping against hope it is toxo and she will kick it.  It 
just seems  unlikely. They weighed her and she has gained about a pound in 
fluid-- that is  over 10% of her body weight in fluid in her belly. That is a 
huge  
amount.  I weight about 120 pounds-- the equivalent with my  weight would be 
if I were carrying about 15 pounds of fluid in my  belly.  Can you imagine? 
That's a lot. He said it could be why she is  not walking around all that much 
now.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/27/2007 11:36:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My tsubomi had fliud  in her belly when we took extray and she was felk 
positive and did not have  FIP – I am uncomfortable them telling you that it’s 
FIP 
because of fluid –  will Felk virus not cause fluid in her tummy like it did 
for tsubomi – may be  epogen might be working for her,  Michelle.  
  
 





Denosyl

2007-01-27 Thread Bpinesbksa
I am having what I believe is some success with 1 denosyl tablet a day on  an 
empty stomach. My cat has stopped trying to eat litter (I had to change to  
shredded paper as litter, but he continued to try to find the other stuff prior 
 to the denosyl), his gums are getting a fair amount of blood to them, 
possibly  indicating that the progress of the anemia is slowing. The only other 
drug 
hes  on right now is Interferon Alpha. Anyone else have any success with 
denosyl?  From the little I've seen, I recommend it.


Re: Rompi

2007-01-27 Thread Paolo
Go to the lymphoma group home page and look at the bottom for the
list owner's email address and email her to ask what to do


UGH!... excellent idea... it was just too easy for my twisted mind...
Thank you Michelle!

Paolo



Re: denosyl

2007-01-27 Thread Bpinesbksa
No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts here  
has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any case, the  
post you read was my first on the subject.
 
I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax.  My 
cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only issue  now is 
his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his persistent anemia,  and 
transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad enough for a transfusion  
after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few times. He is actually doing well now, 
 
his last transfusion series was on 1/8. I started the denosyl on 1/10. Here is  
the link that can be used (I hope) to answer your questions about SAM, the  
product I used is pictured there, with specs-
 
_http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp_ 
(http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp) 


Re: denosyl

2007-01-27 Thread Lernermichelle
 
Did your vet suggest denosyl for red blood cell production? I read the info  
at the link you sent, and it does not mention using it for this. 
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2007 1:13:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts here  
has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any case, the  
post you read was my first on the subject.
 
I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax.  My 
cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only  issue now is 
his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his persistent  anemia, and 
transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad enough for a  transfusion 
after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few times. He is actually  doing well 
now, 
his last transfusion series was on 1/8. I started the denosyl  on 1/10. Here is 
the link that can be used (I hope) to answer your questions  about SAM, the 
product I used is pictured there, with specs-
 
_http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp_ 
(http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp) 



 


RE: Denosyl

2007-01-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I remember Kelly L on the list emailing me something about that - a vet
who was recommending to use SAMe for anemia - he explained how it works
for anemia cat - Kelly, if you still have the information - could you
post it again?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Denosyl

 

Does your cat have liver problems? Is he anemic? Are you giving the
denosyl just for that? I had only heard of it helping with liver
problems. If it is for anemia itself, can you let me know the amount of
SAMe that  is in each dose you give him? I would not be able to get
denosyl tday, but I could get SAMe from the health food store, which is
the same thing just not dosed for a cat. I am sorry if you have already
shared all the info I am asking you-- I have been tunnel visioned on
Lucy and am not reading all posts lately.

 

thanks,

Michelle

 

In a message dated 1/27/2007 12:32:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am having what I believe is some success with 1 denosyl tablet
a day on an empty stomach. My cat has stopped trying to eat litter (I
had to change to shredded paper as litter, but he continued to try to
find the other stuff prior to the denosyl), his gums are getting a fair
amount of blood to them, possibly indicating that the progress of the
anemia is slowing. The only other drug hes on right now is Interferon
Alpha. Anyone else have any success with denosyl? From the little I've
seen, I recommend it.

 



RE: Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
My Garfunkle did get a huge belly from his liver problem - He could
barely walk because of it - he was very uncomfortable - like he had 10
kittens in his tummy look -

Did a vet suggest for lasix for something to get rid of fluid - though I
always get nervous about potential kidney damage by using lasix..

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Lucy update

 

It's not that she has fluid, it's the amount. At this point it is
extremely visible to the naked eye-- it looks like she swallowed a small
basketball. It is the way fip bellies look.  All i have read about fluid
with toxo says that sometimes some can be detected by x-ray.. Nowhere
did it say they can get huge bellies like with fip.  I am not saying i
am ruling it out-- she is still on abx and I am hoping against hope it
is toxo and she will kick it.  It just seems unlikely. They weighed her
and she has gained about a pound in fluid-- that is over 10% of her body
weight in fluid in her belly. That is a huge amount.  I weight about 120
pounds-- the equivalent with my weight would be if I were carrying about
15 pounds of fluid in my belly.  Can you imagine? That's a lot. He said
it could be why she is not walking around all that much now.

Michelle

 

In a message dated 1/27/2007 11:36:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My tsubomi had fliud in her belly when we took extray and she
was felk positive and did not have FIP - I am uncomfortable them telling
you that it's FIP because of fluid - will Felk virus not cause fluid in
her tummy like it did for tsubomi - may be epogen might be working for
her, Michelle.


 



RE: denosyl

2007-01-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I am definitely trying for my Ayumi, too - thank you for the informaiton

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: denosyl

 

No need to apologize for anything, I imagine that everyone who posts
here has tunnel vision about their own animals, I know I do, and in any
case, the post you read was my first on the subject.

 

I'll give you all the info I have. It's denosyl, 90 mgs., by Nutramax.
My cat doesn't have any liver issues that I know of, and his only
issue now is his marrow's failure to make red cells, leading to his
persistent anemia, and transfusions. The last time, his anemia got bad
enough for a transfusion after 4 weeks, instead of 7 the first few
times. He is actually doing well now, his last transfusion series was on
1/8. I started the denosyl on 1/10. Here is the link that can be used (I
hope) to answer your questions about SAM, the product I used is pictured
there, with specs-

 

http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/liver/liver.asp



Re: Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread Lernermichelle
 
Yes, they said they will give her lasix if/when the fluid makes her  
uncomfortable. I think she is breathing a little funny, but the vet did not  
think so 
much. The problem with lasix is that it leaches nutrients she needs and  also 
risks damage to the kidneys. At some point she will probably need it. I can  
hear her exhaling, like she is having to push a little to exhale.  The vet  did 
not seem to think it was bad though. I think it is worse when she is in  
certain conditions.
 
In a message dated 1/27/2007 2:17:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My Garfunkle did get  a huge belly from his liver problem – He could barely 
walk because of it – he  was very uncomfortable – like he had 10 kittens in 
his tummy look  – 
Did a vet suggest for  lasix for something to get rid of fluid – though I 
always get nervous about  potential kidney damage by using  lasix..


 


Re: Lucy update

2007-01-27 Thread wendy
Hi Michelle,

I am catching up on all your emails regarding sweet
Lucy, and I am sorry that the internist thinks it is
FIP.  I don't know much about wet FIP, thus I don't
know how serious it is.  Considering her current
health, I'm betting FIP is pretty serious.  I hope you
are able to find a way to stabilize her, and get her
PVC and weight back up.  I'm glad to hear her PVC was
better than you thought.  Prayers going out for Lucy
and for you.  

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I took Lucy to the local vet for a PCV check
 today because she has  
 been so lethargic that I was sure it was under 10
 and I would need to decide on  
 a transfusion over the weekend. But it was 15! I was
 very glad about that. She 
  is still super-lethargic, though, although she has
 more energy since just  
 getting back from the vet due to all the adrenaline.
 The bad things are she had 
  a fever (104.1), and I had thought her fevers had
 stopped with the 
 clindamycin,  which was one of the things that was
 giving me hope this is toxo rather 
 than  fip. The other bad thing is that she has so
 much fluid in her belly that 
 she has  gained almost a pound in the last few
 weeks. Although she is eating, 
 it is  almost definite that the full pound is fluid.
 The local vet thinks it 
 very  unlikely that toxo would cause this much
 fluid, and feels pretty sure 
 this is  wet fip.
  
 Michelle
 



 

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To Jennifer re new kitty with FeLV

2007-01-27 Thread wendy
Hi Jennifer,

I have been reading about your new Kitty, and a few of
the symptoms you wrote about sound like
hyperthyroidism.  Drinking water all the time and
going around the house meowing, especially at night,
are both symptoms.  We have a cat with hyper T.  To
check for it, you have to get a T4 test at the vets. 
If it's expensive, you might as well get a whole blood
panel done.  HyperT is more common in older cats.  How
old is your new kitty?  

:)
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Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-27 Thread Kelley Saveika

Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any urls, or experience with
it?  Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and
I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded.

Thanks,

Kelley

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20


Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-27 Thread Kelly L

At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote:

I do as much on line as possible,,
Kelly

Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any urls, or experience 
with it?  Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty who is going 
on Elavil and I think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded.


Thanks,

Kelley

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.orghttp://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Compounded into a salve to rub inside the ear?  What sort of price have you 
been quoted?  I know people in California, Florida and North Carolina who have 
used Elavil compounded as a salve, with great results.  Where are you located?  

Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote:

I do as much on line as possible,,
Kelly

  Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any urls, or experience with it? 
 Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty who is going on Elavil and I 
think it would be easier on both of us if it was compoiunded.
 
Thanks,
 
Kelley

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Chris and Mylo

2007-01-27 Thread Nina

Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys.  What happened at the Internist 
today?  I hope no news is good news.  Please update us when you can.

Nina


Chris Ramzy wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on 
Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo.