Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my mobility is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many things and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me what did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him why I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, explained to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think telling me, It's ok Mom thank you. And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less stressful - for both her me. I'm just concerned about how we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, intact had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the idiots I encounteredG.. I could go on on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to explain what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally. I really need that, especially now. So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support. You'll never know how much it means to me, Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write). The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest. Hopefully anyway. Much love, hugs thanks, Patti her gang BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Opinions appreciated
In a message dated 3/9/07 4:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have found with my limited exposure to rescue groups and I would assume the same with humane societies, the tend to be a bit strongly opinionated if not even being accusing. I am sure it comes from what they see. YES Anyone not exposed w/ working in rescue has NO idea what we see try to deal with. Education is the key... And, our rescue group tries to educate. But, so many people don't even want to listen... No wonder I prefer creatures over people. No offense, but I've just seen and dealt with WAY TOO MUCH Animals are NOT disposable.. Sorry,I hope I haven't offended anyone. JMO. Patti her (non-disposable, special needs rescued) gang BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Opinions appreciated
In a message dated 3/9/07 10:10:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They need some education severely. Couldn't agree more... EDUCATION IS THE KEY Patti her gang (Most rescued due to special needs or other problems that owners couldn't/wouldn't even try to deal with. And, guess what??? They are all doing GREAT!!! Their loss, my gain They are my world. The whole reason I am still here after MVA, I honestly believe that...) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Opinions appreciated
I did not mean to offend anyone here. I am just saying they were only accusatory and not helpful. Casey was a much happier dog after she found a home where she had kids and much attention. Are you saying I should have kept her locked up all day? This is just a rhetorical question. As I said before Casey came to me after dad died my mother could not handle her. I know many folks have their parents pets euthanized as an option. I would never consider that as an option. If finding Casey a good home where she had children to play with her she lived a long healthy life is a bad thing then I am guilty. She was not my dog and did not want to be my dog, Sometimes animals choose who they want to be with and this is what she did. If i did not care about her I would have not gone and gotten her back from the animal control. They picked her up after she broke lose, She went through a closed window one day while I was at work. It is a wonder she was't cut. Wow, how do you get such a good internet connection from that other planet you must be living on? WHO considers all outdoor cats ferals? They need some education severely HUH?? you are so sarcastic G. I did not imply i agreed with this vet,I dont know her name. It is a vet I do not use I was with a coworker when we took a feral cat who had climbed into an engine to hide. This was something the vet said. The cats subsequently died from her injuries. The guy tried to sane her, but she was never able to go to the bathroom. bye sally On 3/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/9/07 4:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have found with my limited exposure to rescue groups and I would assume the same with humane societies, the tend to be a bit strongly opinionated if not even being accusing. I am sure it comes from what they see. *YES *Anyone *not* exposed w/ working in rescue has *NO* idea what we see *try* to deal with. Education is the key... And, our rescue group *tries* to educate. But, so many people don't even want to listen... No wonder I prefer creatures over people. No offense, but I've just seen and dealt with *WAY TOO MUCH* *Animals are NOT disposable..* Sorry,I hope I haven't offended anyone. JMO. Patti her (non-disposable, special needs rescued) gang -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
*Dearest Patti, Your vet visit with Charity is going to be peaceful and smooth, I just know it. As far as drawing blood... What we've done is keep the kitty completely covered and just gently extracted a back leg to draw blood from. If you stroke, or gently tap her head through the towel while the vet pulls the blood it will distract her from the prick of the needle. I'm so sorry to hear how horrendous your disabilities are. Please hang in there. All the animals love and need you. I know it's not as important, but some of us two leggers love and need you too. I remember the first time I met you on the list. You hadn't been posting for awhile and the very first post back was so full of compassion and helpful information that I fell in love with you on the spot. I even wrote to tell you how happy and grateful I was that you started posting to the list again. Those feelings have continued to grow. You are a very special person Patti, an inspiration in so many ways. Thank you for making the effort necessary to continue sharing your life and stories with us. Please know you are always in my thoughts and prayers, Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so *bad*, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my mobility is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many things and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! *Think positive* - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me what did I want to do w/ his remains.I *jokingly* said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very *LARGE*] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him why I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, explained to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think telling me, It's ok Mom thank you. And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less stressful - for both her me. I'm just concerned about how we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, intact had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the */idiots/* I encounteredG.. I could go on on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to explain what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally. I really need that, especially now. So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support. You'll never know how much it means to me, Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write). The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest. Hopefully anyway. Much love, hugs thanks, Patti her gang AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339.
New Strain of Calicivirus - Scare talk and vaccine hype
please post to groups you HAVEN'T seen this on, so that it can spread as quickly as news of the non-existent calici outbreak will. -- Forwarded message -- From: Linda Mercer/Purebred Cat Breed Rescue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just in case you've heard the scare talk or Fort Dodge's hype about their new vaccine See email response below from Dr. Susan Little. She says it is extremely rare and has not been seen in the pet cat population and talks about the vaccine (below): From: Susan Little DVM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can you please answer this? Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:20:31 -0500 snip The new calicivirus vaccine is not considered a core vaccine by AAFP, and most feline specialists are not recommending its use. It is an adjuvanted vaccine (increased risk of sarcoma formation) and it contains one strain of VS calicivirus. Each outbreak of VS calicivirus has involved a brand new strain, unique to that outbreak. We have no idea whether this vaccine would protect against future outbreaks. Finally, VS calicivirus is a very RARE disease, and has never been seen in the pet cat population. There would seem little reason to recommend widespread vaccination. __^^__^^__^^__^^__^^__^^ Susan Little, DVM, DABVP Bytown Cat Hospital Ottawa, Canada President, http://www.winnfelinehealth.org Feline Consultant, VIN http://www.vin.com __^^__^^__^^__^^__^^__^^ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
Patti, I for one am always happy when I see you've posted something. Your presence here is simply, right. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:27:10 AM Subject: Re: ovaban and other stuffNina Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my mobility is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many things and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me what did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him why I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, explained to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think telling me, It's ok Mom thank you. And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less stressful - for both her me. I'm just concerned about how we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, intact had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the idiots I encounteredG.. I could go on on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to explain what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally. I really need that, especially now. So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support. You'll never know how much it means to me, Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write). The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest. Hopefully anyway. Much love, hugs thanks, Patti her gang AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: Seattle vets
This is a link to the American Association of Feline Practitioners. http://www.aafponline.org/ and this is a link to a search for Seattle vets on that site (there are 8 in Seattle proper) http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Seattlestate=WAcountry=USAzipcode=Submit=Submit Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:20:59 PM Subject: Seattle vets Still wondering about good progressive vets in the Seattle area ... thanks Kelly 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
RE: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
Hear hear---everything Nina and Barb said about how important and special you are to us, Patti, is so true. I remember being so happy and so relieved when you started posting again in recent months! I always love seeing your postings; it gives me that all too rare all's right with the world feeling. You are indeed an inspiration to me too in all that you do for your beloved furbabes, despite your many and significant health problems. Know you're always in my thoughts too, dear Patti, sending you healing vibes. much love and big hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: ovaban and other stuffNina Dearest Patti, Your vet visit with Charity is going to be peaceful and smooth, I just know it. As far as drawing blood... What we've done is keep the kitty completely covered and just gently extracted a back leg to draw blood from. If you stroke, or gently tap her head through the towel while the vet pulls the blood it will distract her from the prick of the needle. I'm so sorry to hear how horrendous your disabilities are. Please hang in there. All the animals love and need you. I know it's not as important, but some of us two leggers love and need you too. I remember the first time I met you on the list. You hadn't been posting for awhile and the very first post back was so full of compassion and helpful information that I fell in love with you on the spot. I even wrote to tell you how happy and grateful I was that you started posting to the list again. Those feelings have continued to grow. You are a very special person Patti, an inspiration in so many ways. Thank you for making the effort necessary to continue sharing your life and stories with us. Please know you are always in my thoughts and prayers, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my mobility is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many things and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me what did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him why I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, explained to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think telling me, It's ok Mom thank you. And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less stressful - for both her me. I'm just concerned about how we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, intact had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the idiots I encounteredG.. I could go on on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to explain what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love support from this group, And, it really helps me,
Winn Feline Foundation Announces 2007 Grant Recipients
fyi -- Forwarded message -- From: Susan Little DVM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 10, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: [Persian_Rescue] Winn Feline Foundation Announces 2007 Grant Recipients To: list suppressed Recipient FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 9, 2007 FOR FURTHER INFORMATION Janet Wolf, Executive Director Phone: 856-447-9798 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susan Little DVM, President Phone: 613-741-2460 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Winn Feline Foundation Announces 2007 Grant Recipients: Eight studies funded for a total of $127,544 The Winn Feline Foundation is pleased to receive proposals from veterinary researchers around the world who are interested in improving feline health. Out of 40 proposals for 2007, our team of outstanding veterinary consultants helped the Foundation select the best studies for funding. We look forward to seeing the results of these studies and being able to share them with the veterinary community as well as cat owners and pedigreed cat breeders. For complete information on these studies, please visit us at: www.winnfelinehealth.org Targeted gene mapping in gaps of the feline-human comparative map William J. Murphy, PhD; Texas AM University; $14,585 The male-specific region of the mammalian Y chromosome is particularly unique, and is perhaps the single most divergent region in mammalian genomes among species. This project will isolate cat Y chromosome genes, and determine which may be good candidates for abnormal sperm function. Molecular characterization of feline COX-2 and expression in mammary cancer Monique Doré, DVM, MSc, PhD, DACVP; University of Montreal; $15,000 Tumors originating from the mammary gland represent one of the most frequent forms of cancer in cats. However, very little information is known on the mechanisms involved in the development of this cancer. A better understanding of the role of COX-2 in feline mammary cancer will help design new strategies for cancer therapy and prevention in cats. [This study was partially funded by the efforts of the Siamese Breed Council and many other interested breeders.] Molecular evaluation of the feline myosin heavy chain gene in Ragdolls, Norwegian Forest cats and Sphynx with familial hypertrophic cardiomyopathy Kathryn M. Meurs, DVM, PhD, DACVIM; Washington State University; $31,550 Feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM) is the most common cause of heart disease in the adult cat. Increasingly, feline HCM is suspected to be inherited, with examples noted in the Maine Coon, Ragdoll, Norwegian Forest Cat and Sphynx breeds, among others. The researchers hypothesize that a mutation in the myosin heavy chain gene is associated with the development of HCM in one or all of these breeds. [This study was largely funded by the efforts of Ragdoll, Norwegian Forest Cat and Sphynx breeders. This study was also supported by the Ricky Fund, a fund for the study of feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy established by Steve Dale in memory of his cat, Ricky.] Prevalence and risk factors for venereal Tritrichomonas foetus infection Jody L. Gookin, DVM, PhD; North Carolina State University; $12,465 Tritrichomonas foetus (TF) is a protozoan pathogen that infects the feline colon resulting in chronic, foul-smelling diarrhea. The infection is very common, especially in multi-cat environments. The researcher has noted that male cats are often the ones failing treatment for TF infection, leading them to surmise that TF may also reside in the reproductive tract of cats. Venereal involvement in feline TF may explain cases of treatment failure and the high prevalence of disease in some breeding programs. Evidence of effective drug delivery using transdermal gel delivery systems in cats Dawn Boothe, DVM, PhD, DACVIM, DACVCP; Auburn University, $14,990 The administration of drugs using a transdermal gel applied to the ear is popular among cat owners because of ease of administration. This study will examine the ability of gels to deliver drugs into the bloodstream of cats following several days to weeks of therapy. Drugs to be studied will be among those most commonly administered as a gel (prednisolone/prednisone, methimazole and metronidazole). Characterization of feline immune responses to recombinant DNA vaccines against avian H5N1 influenza virus Elizabeth W. Uhl, DVM, PhD, DACVP; University of Georgia; $15,000 The discovery that cats can be infected with bird (H5N1) flu, and can transmit the disease to other cats has increased concerns about their risk of infection and role in transmission. The goal of this project is to develop a recombinant DNA vaccine that induces protective immune responses in cats. To achieve this goal, the researchers have assembled a collaborative team with the expertise to make the vaccines, assess feline immune responses, and ensure the proper and humane handling of cats. Detection of anti-erythrocyte antibodies in cats with anemia Kristy L. Dowers, DVM, MS, DACVIM; Colorado State University; $8,954 Red
Re: For Nina
Hiya Debbie! If I'm remembering correctly - I believe I read those comments from the Humane Society and I really don't think they were trying to talk down to you -- they just didn't know *you*. I can see how one might take what they said personally -- but I'd just take two grains of salt and call them in the morning :0) I have 8 cats and it is truly a challenge for me to give each and every one of them all the personal attention they deserve and be in tune with each of them enough to know if something is amis. I live in Alabama...where all outside kitties are 'ferals' too (rolling eyes)... and the predominant philosophy is to have FeVL+ babies PTS w/o consideration for what their current condition may be or how treatable it may be. (duh) I live on the far edge of the county too -- not EVEN in a town -- the aerial photos from Google Earth show that there is NOTHING around me :0) (as it should be, in my book). Even so -- for the luxury of having a view-- there is sometimes a price to pay (vet wise). Out here you have to listen to your own wits as you well know! Mama Kitty helped me dig holes for roses all day. In less than two months it will be 1 yr to the day that my vet recommended that I say goodbye to Mama Kitty (about the time I joined this wonderful community). Nuthin' doin'. :0) She is SO healthy and happy now. We did treatments with Acemannan, supplements, antibiotics and steroids. (She was severely anemic and right at 7lbs). I haven't weighed her lately but she is truly fat and happy (but not too fat -- she's just gorgeous and her coat feels like silk) Thank goodness I had an open-minded vet who was willing to try anything that might help. Sometimes - they just don't know! (Incidentally - he's up for using acemannan now and recommends it as a treatment option for FeVL+) After all the work was done today, I kicked back on the porch -- ice pack on ankle and Mama Kitty in my lap happy as can be. She's snoozing on my best chair now and has an excellent quality of life. If you could just see her - it would make you smile because you can just tell that she feels good and she is happy. My Phelix is the one with the allergies. He never showed symptom one before my last boyfriend lived here for a while (smoked worse than I used to). (sorry if that is TMI). Phelix's symptoms began then -- tearing the hair from his tummy and his back legs looked like little granny legs. (I should have known that man was bad news) I don't know if it is from the agriculture going on here or what. (I used to use pesticides...now I just use ground water) Since then we did steroid shots...immunoregulin...everything. Tested for ringworm...every test available. Still biting his hair out. The transdermal benedryl from the compounding pharmacist has done more to help with those symptoms than anything. Compounding pharmacist uses muscle testing -- he is a cat person and firmly believes that most cat allergies are rooted in diet. Phelix helped plant roses today too -- we are all exhausted! We're tired but this yard is going to be AWESOME in a few weeks :0) (Probably have close to 100 rose planted here and lots and lots of flower, herbs, and veggies) With 8 cats we have sibling rivalry issues. Those Feliway diffusers and the spray help calm everyone a lot. That and rescue remedy and concentrated cat nip spray. My Phelix was born with only one eye -- in those bouts of sibling rivalry the kids go right for that one good eye -- makes me crazy. Thank goodness -- at least tonight...all is calm and happy at Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa. Glad you joined the group -- keep those posts coming. elizabeth On 3/9/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your comments Nina. It is appreciated. We were so relieved when our babies tested negative. Although now I wonder if Elsa who was put to sleep was actually positive. We have tried to eliminate things that might make the scratchy ones less itchy. I use advantage on them and that seems to help quite a bit. Even though they have no fleas. The vets have suggested steroid shots but said they don't like to use them very often. We live on 3 acres in the country so anything could be causing it. There's alot of crops, trees, and pollen. It only started after we had them spayed/ neutered. It also seems to be a certain personality type (high strung). We don't have enough room to give them all their own space. We have one, Tigger, who we let go in the bathroom alot. He is a bully at times but once he gets some alone time he seems better. Sneezy and her daughter Patches we keep in our bedroom. They are both high strung. Sneezy used to be mean to some of the others and once we got her fixed the tables turned. Now they all hate her and she dislikes most of them. She growls when anyone even looks at her. She LOVES people though. We are thinking about building an outside enclosure for some for the summer. Just for short periods of time, so they can enjoy the
Hello, I am new to this form of discussion
I never would have thought two days ago that I would be discussing FeLV. I didn't even know what it was. Yesterday, I was devastated when I brought my favorite cat, Tomi, to the vet since he wasn't eating and was lethargic. I found out he was severely anemic because of a parasite in the blood and he tested positive for FeLV. The Vet was hinting that it didn't look good for Tomi, but I insisted they go ahead with a blood transfusion and antibiotics to treat the parasite. They said it was likely he got the parasite because of a weakened immune system. I have four other cats besides Tomi, and I brought them all in, kicking and screaming to be tested today. We found out that the kitten we took in the same time as Tomi (and his best friend) Kisa, also is positive, though she isn't showing any signs of it yet. They are both 2.5 years old. This has been an extremely hard couple of days for me, to have my happy family suddenly thrown into turmoil, so i've been searching the internet for any sign of hope. I found out about Interferon, and the vet is willing to give that a try, though he has to acquire it from somewhere first. I also found a site that claims Mega C Plus can really help a FeLV positive cat, and I ordered some, just to try, though it will probably take a couple of weeks to arrive. I brought Tomi home today, and need to give him antibiotic, steroids, and a vitamin supplement paste with B12 in it. I sure am not looking forward to shoving all these pills and the paste down his throat (the paste is supposed to taste good, but he doesn't like it). Now i'm basically waiting to see if Tomi can produce red blood cells on his own, and if he can't, then the transfusion will only be a temporary solution. I just can't bear to lose him, and possibly Kisa if she starts showing symptoms. This terrible disease sure makes you miss the happiness you had in your life before you are introduced to FeLV.
Re: Hello, I am new to this form of discussion
At 05:32 PM 3/10/2007, you wrote: Sorry you need to join us under theses circumstances, but after you digest so much and things settle down and you spend te next week reading all the old posts and your baby starts to feel a bit better you will get your happiness back again, I will not even get into the multitudes of treatment options as you have enough to handle now, and it sounds like your vet is being supportive, But stay here with us ,,all of us that ae doing the same things and ask all the questions you need to. It is a lot to learn and we are still learning and sharing. kelly www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com I never would have thought two days ago that I would be discussing FeLV. I didn't even know what it was. Yesterday, I was devastated when I brought my favorite cat, Tomi, to the vet since he wasn't eating and was lethargic. I found out he was severely anemic because of a parasite in the blood and he tested positive for FeLV. The Vet was hinting that it didn't look good for Tomi, but I insisted they go ahead with a blood transfusion and antibiotics to treat the parasite. They said it was likely he got the parasite because of a weakened immune system. I have four other cats besides Tomi, and I brought them all in, kicking and screaming to be tested today. We found out that the kitten we took in the same time as Tomi (and his best friend) Kisa, also is positive, though she isn't showing any signs of it yet. They are both 2.5 years old. This has been an extremely hard couple of days for me, to have my happy family suddenly thrown into turmoil, so i've been searching the internet for any sign of hope. I found out about Interferon, and the vet is willing to give that a try, though he has to acquire it from somewhere first. I also found a site that claims Mega C Plus can really help a FeLV positive cat, and I ordered some, just to try, though it will probably take a couple of weeks to arrive. I brought Tomi home today, and need to give him antibiotic, steroids, and a vitamin supplement paste with B12 in it. I sure am not looking forward to shoving all these pills and the paste down his throat (the paste is supposed to taste good, but he doesn't like it). Now i'm basically waiting to see if Tomi can produce red blood cells on his own, and if he can't, then the transfusion will only be a temporary solution. I just can't bear to lose him, and possibly Kisa if she starts showing symptoms. This terrible disease sure makes you miss the happiness you had in your life before you are introduced to FeLV. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007
Re: ovaban and other stuff....
OMG -- let me just say this about Pet Tinic. This is in no way a normal story...but Mama Kitty hated it so bad...she took other meds with no problem..but the last time I gave her Pet Tinic she honest to God had a siezure. I thought she was dead -- gave me a heart attack. Mama Kitty will never have to take that nasty stuff ever again. I've had other cats who just loved it. Not on Mama's menu. elizabeth On 3/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/8/07 7:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So no one here has heard much about the use of ovaban for itching and calming them down? Debbie I had to give a male cat ovaban for his urinating (outside of box, ANYWHERE!!!). But, the poor boy was traumatized, owner was fleeing town after we had the Three Mile Island incident here [Sorry, my memory stinks, but I KNOW it was early '80's, at least I think]. She was just going to dump him in a KILL-SHELTER! And, at the time, I did have one of his sisters, so, regardless of that fact, he came home - to me He DID calm down, used box ALL the time, BUT. That was my Mr. Chow - [my very first encounter w/ Felv.].. And, to make matters worse, when he got older and sickly, he was diagnosed w/ cancer... Upon necropsy [something I detest], his lymphosarcoma was due to being Felv+. (Keep in mind, this was prior to Snap or Elisa testing..) I was devastated... I still wonder about just *how* they were able to diagnose Felv. () And, he lived w/ me my furbabies MANY years, and all his friends lived to a ripe [healthy] age. On the subject of amytryptilline, we used that at the shelter on many stressed-out cats. And, Blossom [See? I CAN remember some things!], used to chew her fur terribly PRIOR!!! Her nickname was Bald Blossom. After giving her the meds, she was Beautiful Blossom! And, as far as I know, which lately isn't too much, she is a healthy senior w/ lots of fur What dosage were you RX'ed? Improper dosage can lead to many problems. And, don't ask me what we had our Blossom on. that memory is * gone* I know I am rambling am even going to *switch* topic, but. For vitamins, yes, PetTinic is very good, but we also used Fela-Vite[sp?]. It's a *flavored *gel, I even think it's made by the same mfg. as Laxatone. () Just don't quote me on that.. And, since I'm changing topic, I also want to say that I am seriously contemplating having my Buster put on amytryptilline.. He was Cornelius's best friend (the rest of my gang are snooty, AND THAT'S PUTTING IT MILDLY). I rescued Buster shortly after Cornelius, and when Corny passed, well, I was really concerned about Buster. And, he is also a Maine Coon, but now he is a DSH!!! And, he is *perfectly healthy,* according to my vet. He's on a good [great] diet, no fleas, no allergies... What's a Mom to do And, I DO have to go back to vet, as soon as I figure out a way to get dear Charity into a carrier.. For those of you not familiar w/ my Charity, she's the feral I've been looking after [spayed, tested, vaccinated, plus food shelter], who led me to Black Bart, another REALLY, REALLY mean feral tom [in a BLIZZARD!!!] when he was so ill... They *both* put their trust in me that night.. Sadly, for Bart it was too late. :( But, Charity allowed me to carry her back to house, and she's been inside ever since In a large crate, but until I ever get her to vet, I don't want to expose her to my other babies I even have Timmy, her baby.Who I had to bottle feed 'cause the j*rk that dumped them, put them in a cardboard box Of course, Mom got out, but I had her 2 teeny babies The other baby, Thomas, was adopted, but Timmy won't have any of that [He did get adopted while I was in hosp., thank heavens for adoption contracts!!! He made it purr-fectly clear that *this was his home*] I'm rambling [again], back to CharityWe DID have a vet appt., * BUT...*, upon seeing another human, she went ballistic (I can't drive among *other *handicaps after MVA), so when my rescue buddy came to get us, there was NO way to get her in carrier! I knowmy fault, should have already had her in carrier. But, she has to be at least semi manageable for vet appt. And, she does not like *any *person but me!!! And, at least prior to MVA I could draw blood. Now...FORGET IT!!! My room mate even asked *why* I brought the *EVIL CAT *in (Her house is in my laundry room and she freaks whenever he goes in there!!!) So just how can I expect a vet staff to handle her??? With me, she's a mush She allows me to stroke her, even PURRS!!! And, sometimes when she *pretends* to scratch me, she doesn't even have her claws out!!! I just don't know what to do.. Living in a crate is MUCH better than life outside in this weather here. Suggestions, anyone Debbie everyone, sorry
Re: Hello, I am new to this form of discussion
Thank you for listening to your heart. A frightening number of vets recommend euthanasia without further evaluation. You did very well. I am sure you will get a lot of responses here -- but there is hope and life after a FeVL+ diagnosis. Mama Kitty wasn't supposed to live but a few weeks. She's getting close to the 1 year mark. I know people with FeVL+ babies who lived past 12. Be encouraged -- and keep posting! elizabeth On 3/10/07, C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never would have thought two days ago that I would be discussing FeLV. I didn't even know what it was. Yesterday, I was devastated when I brought my favorite cat, Tomi, to the vet since he wasn't eating and was lethargic. I found out he was severely anemic because of a parasite in the blood and he tested positive for FeLV. The Vet was hinting that it didn't look good for Tomi, but I insisted they go ahead with a blood transfusion and antibiotics to treat the parasite. They said it was likely he got the parasite because of a weakened immune system. I have four other cats besides Tomi, and I brought them all in, kicking and screaming to be tested today. We found out that the kitten we took in the same time as Tomi (and his best friend) Kisa, also is positive, though she isn't showing any signs of it yet. They are both 2.5 years old. This has been an extremely hard couple of days for me, to have my happy family suddenly thrown into turmoil, so i've been searching the internet for any sign of hope. I found out about Interferon, and the vet is willing to give that a try, though he has to acquire it from somewhere first. I also found a site that claims Mega C Plus can really help a FeLV positive cat, and I ordered some, just to try, though it will probably take a couple of weeks to arrive. I brought Tomi home today, and need to give him antibiotic, steroids, and a vitamin supplement paste with B12 in it. I sure am not looking forward to shoving all these pills and the paste down his throat (the paste is supposed to taste good, but he doesn't like it). Now i'm basically waiting to see if Tomi can produce red blood cells on his own, and if he can't, then the transfusion will only be a temporary solution. I just can't bear to lose him, and possibly Kisa if she starts showing symptoms. This terrible disease sure makes you miss the happiness you had in your life before you are introduced to FeLV.
Re: Dallas, TX - FeLV+ cat WANTED
Thanks Susan I posted it to the cat rescue list I am on here in the DFW area. see our available orphans at: _http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html_ (http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html) Karen BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
do we know ANYONE who could foster this little one long enough to give her at least the chance to live? (and yes, susan, i DID send on the info re: the vet tech in TX, tho that's a LONG way for such a frail baby!) MC PERMISSION TO CROSSPOST FAR AND WIDE Hi everyone, Precious is a small Torti female kitten that the vet thinks is 4-5 months old even though she is the size of a 3 month old and sadly she has tested positive to FeLV. Currently she is fighting upper respitory and the vet is giving her a 50/50 chance of making it. She is purring and just so sweet so the vet didn't want to euthanize her but she can only stay there over the weekend and by Monday a decision needs to be made. Due to her URI she has not been well enough to be spayed or have her vaccinations but if we can find a foster who has either a spare room or a large crate and can foster her all her medication and Interferon will be provided. Once she is well from her URI we will have her spayed and vaccinated but right now she is just in need of a safe place to rest and get well. We really want to give this sweet girl a chance to live and once she is safe in a foster we will begin to look for a permanent place for her but right now we just need a safe place for her to get well. I am currently set to no mail because of my upcoming cross country move so please do not reply to the group but instead contact Tina or myself directly at the emails or phone number below if you can help. Thank you! Tina in TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] (615) 796-3438 Kim in VA [EMAIL PROTECTED] __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Special needshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjb2hrNjczBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBF9wAzEEZ3JwSWQDMjQ2NjEyMQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDczNTc1MzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-?t=msk=Special+needsw1=Special+needsw2=Pet+cat+toyw3=Rescuew4=Pet+animalw5=Pet+catc=5s=77g=0.sig=vUUBNMu1ZugSTv5Hhd1hSw Pet cat toyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjbzlwMXNjBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBF9wAzIEZ3JwSWQDMjQ2NjEyMQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDczNTc1MzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-?t=msk=Pet+cat+toyw1=Special+needsw2=Pet+cat+toyw3=Rescuew4=Pet+animalw5=Pet+catc=5s=77g=0.sig=aREIkriS7de0i8oiJ_glaA Rescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjbjh1a2lxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBF9wAzMEZ3JwSWQDMjQ2NjEyMQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDczNTc1MzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-?t=msk=Rescuew1=Special+needsw2=Pet+cat+toyw3=Rescuew4=Pet+animalw5=Pet+catc=5s=77g=0.sig=Dpbq1Sdy_QskP9edkzqEzQ Pet animalhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjb3ZyMHVuBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBF9wAzQEZ3JwSWQDMjQ2NjEyMQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDczNTc1MzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-?t=msk=Pet+animalw1=Special+needsw2=Pet+cat+toyw3=Rescuew4=Pet+animalw5=Pet+catc=5s=77g=0.sig=NTMYicGc9seD7X7JCAJbJQ Pet cathttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjYjE5ZjA5BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBF9wAzUEZ3JwSWQDMjQ2NjEyMQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDczNTc1MzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-?t=msk=Pet+catw1=Special+needsw2=Pet+cat+toyw3=Rescuew4=Pet+animalw5=Pet+catc=5s=77g=0.sig=kIgrEjuAi9u9caw7_I9Ehw Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Webhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Special_Needs_Rescue_Cats/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdDBvMzlwBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzI0NjYxMjEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzU3NTM3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3N0bmdzBHN0aW1lAzExNzM1NDAzNzI-(Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest[EMAIL PROTECTED]:+Digest| Switch to Fully Featured[EMAIL PROTECTED]:+Fully+Featured Visit Your Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Special_Needs_Rescue_Cats;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcXZrZm8yBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzI0NjYxMjEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzU3NTM3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2hwZgRzdGltZQMxMTczNTQwMzcy| Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ | Unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] __,_._,___ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
Hi folks, I realize I mostly lurk on this list but once was awesome with positives and getting them well. If transport is available, and if Judith is willing to adopt her I am willing to take her in my rescue till she gets over the hump. 50/50 is still good odds as far as I am concerned, I have the breathing equipment and meds here she will need. I would ask that ms jolly take over the spay and vet work when she is well enough but let me know if anyone thinks we can pull this off. What do you folks think? BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
oopps I must have gotten the wrong email address. who has the email for the adopter wanting the felv kitten? Ms jolly my apologies K BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
tina and kim are the contact folks for the little calico in TN--i think the other one is the vet tech in TX!!! tina and kim's addy's are in my post; as well as tina's phone number these are the women who were able to place the FeLV Spiderman awhile back. i agree with you, 50/50 is good enough for me, too, but i'm just too far away. (she says, thinking that she'll probably talk to kim tomorrow anyway, just in case.) On 3/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I realize I mostly lurk on this list but once was awesome with positives and getting them well. If transport is available, and if Judith is willing to adopt her I am willing to take her in my rescue till she gets over the hump. 50/50 is still good odds as far as I am concerned, I have the breathing equipment and meds here she will need. I would ask that ms jolly take over the spay and vet work when she is well enough but let me know if anyone thinks we can pull this off. What do you folks think? -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
Reply to the potential adopter in Texas, Stephanie, via the website. Go to http://tinyurl.com/2rxozh and when you pull up the ad you will see a reply to ad option. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oopps I must have gotten the wrong email address. who has the email for the adopter wanting the felv kitten? Ms jolly my apologies K - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: TN but transport available - URGENT FeLV+ kitten needs foster or home ASAP
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Re: 14 cats going to be tested- Great News
Yup, just what I expected - although I haven't done the testing of 10 + like some of you have. Gloria On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 06:20 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: Great news and be sure to keep this information and let us share it with so many skeptics,Just like my experience,,all 18 were negative YEAH Kelly www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com Just wanted to let everyone know we took the gang of 14 in.” Just got home. All the tests came back negative. Not a single cat was positive. Now we have to question on whether or not Elsa was truly positive. We took the cats to another vet. We use 4 actually. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 14 cats going to be tested good luck; i'm glad you found a vet who'd help you out! (you've learned, unfortunately, what we all do--ANYONE can call themselves a humane society--there are no requirements to actually BE one) MC On 3/6/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not looking forward to taking them all in, but we felt we should know. This way at least we can take extra care for any that might test positive. We went out and got lots of carriers. Going to have to take two vehicles. The vet we chose is about 17 miles from us. They gave us a mutiple cat discount but everyone had to go in at once. I appreciate the people on this list taking the time out to comment. I tend to be a loner most times. I am at work at the moment. I work with ALOT of farmers who look at cats as a nuisance here. Makes for some very unpleasant conversations at times here. I have had cats for as long as I remember. I would not trade those friendships for all the human ones in the world. It is always refreshing though to find people who care as much about animals as I do. The Humane Society here said I was not doing the cats any favors by taking in so many, without having them all tested and vaccinated for FELV. We got all the cats at the same time. All abandoned, some even starving. We have had them all spayed/ neutered and had all other shots. We keep them all indoors and keep them clean, well groomed, etc... I would have hoped for a better response from a Humane Society. I had asked them if we bought all the vaccines if they would administer the shots for a donation. I refuse to ever turn a blind eye to an animal in need of help. If that means spending alot of money on them than so be it. -Original Message- From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Mar 6, 2007 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: 14 cats going to be tested Sending lots of good vibes for tonight Debbie. Let us know how it goes when you have time. Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 14 cats going to be tested Am taking our 14 cats in tonight to be tested for FELV. This was after we had Elsa put to sleep because of fluid in her lungs and her testing positive. Wish us luck. I don't know what to expect. I'd like to think no one else will test positive, but I doubt that will be the case. All the cats are around the same age (3-4 yrs). Different litters though. Has a genetic factor to this disease ever been found? IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: