Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him a 
couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good 
enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I 
wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11).

Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me 
right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as 
having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day.

Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


 Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that
 Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy,
 is that when his PCV fell again?

 :)
 Wendy

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 Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose
 and everything to gain.

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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
I've done this as have a lot of people on the list.  Try very hard to enjoy the 
days you have with Tomi and not to let the thought of losing him overshadow the 
deep love you share.  He has things left to teach you and to share with you.  
If your grief overshadows your time together you will loose this and so will 
he.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt and Mai Mai taught me this in long, drawn 
out illnesses that totally broke my heart.  I look back and realize grieving 
took away a lot of pleasure.  None of us know when we are going to leave this 
world.  Talk to Tomi and find out what his wishes areit will make you 
feel lots better.

Blessings to you both. 





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


  Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

  C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him 
a 
couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good 
enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I 
wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11).

Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me 
right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as 
having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day.

Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


 Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that
 Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy,
 is that when his PCV fell again?

 :)
 Wendy

 --- Belinda wrote:

 Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose
 and everything to gain.

 -- 

 Belinda
 happiness is being owned by cats ...

 Be-Mi-Kitties
 http://bemikitties.com

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 http://adopt.bemikitties.com

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 http://bemikitties.com/cls

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RE: Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch/Cassidy

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Reil
 I don't know where you live, but Cassidy is the most
 beautiful, friendly,
 loving cat! He's probably less than one year old, or
 around there. Here's
 his picture:

He's gorgeous. I'm up in Vermont but am not really in
a position to take in other cats at the moment, mostly
because of Stitch's particular personality issues. :)
If I think of or find anyone who is, though, or if my
situation changes, I'll keep you in mind.

 Best of luck with your new quest on educating
 yourself on FeLV. There's so
 much to learn as I've found out this past week! But,
 the people here are so
 helpful and understanding-I'm so glad you've found
 this resource as well!

Thanks!

Joe
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Re: Ages please

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Reil
1. Chewie - unsure of age - probably 7-9. She was
diagnosed right around the time she died - about a
month ago now.

2. Stitch - 2.5 - tested positive for FelV after we
had her tested shortly after Chewie died.

Joe

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Re: OT - ARGH to Pet Health Pharmacy

2007-04-14 Thread Kelley Saveika

Well, the first time I got Missy's meds filled there they came
quickly, with no problems.  Then I got Shimmer's meds.  Then they sent
pills for Toodles when they were supposed to send compounded meds, and
wouldn't take them back because I had opened the BAG (not the pill
bottle, but the priority mail bag - how was I supposed to tell it was
wrong if I didn't open it?).  Then they made up 100 syringes of
compounded Elavil for Toodles AND Shimmer.  Which is more medicine
than I could use before it went bad.  Then they sent a FedEx bag for
$18, only put one out of 4 meds in it, and sent the rest Priority
Mail.  Then one of the items in the Priority mail order was supposed
to be refrigerated, but wasn't.

I've come to the conclusion I can either have cheap(er) meds or get
good service.  Not both.

On 4/12/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Kelley,

I am sorry you are having troubles with this pharmacy.
 I've been ordering Julie's meds for over a year from
them, and I have always gotten fantastic customer
service, they ship very quickly, and they are less
expensive than anywhere else I've looked.  Have you
checked with them to see if they didn't make some
mistake?  Did the interest rate on the meds go up this
week, like they did on my damn credit card??!!!  lol.

:)
Wendy


--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am so frustrated with these people.  So, so
 frustrated.

 I always have problems with my prescriptions there
 and they just
 called and said Shimmers' and Toodles' meds would be
 $125 *each* this
 time.  They were $10 each LAST MONTH.  I am thinking
 they have to have
 the wrong prescription.  I'll learn how to compound
 Elavil myself
 before I pay $125 for a month's supply!

 I'm sure I will get this straight eventually, but in
 the meantime
 Toodles, Shimmer, Sapphire and Joey are without
 their meds because
 they need a credit card payment in advance for
 anything over
 $100and I'm not paying $250 for Elavil.  For
 something lifesaving
 sure, but not something to keep Shimmer and Toodles
 from spraying
 everywhere.

 Kelley

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RE: Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch/Cassidy

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Thanks Joe! Vermont is quite a distance from Nebraska! But, of course keep
us in mind if you know of any compassionate people would like and FeLV baby.
A vacation with a purpose would be nice. However, I'm sure there are plenty
of cats in need out East! And, luckily, Cassidy has been accepted to Best
Friends in Utah (a little closer), if I don't find him a home before then.
Best, Melissa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Reil
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch/Cassidy

 I don't know where you live, but Cassidy is the most
 beautiful, friendly,
 loving cat! He's probably less than one year old, or
 around there. Here's
 his picture:

He's gorgeous. I'm up in Vermont but am not really in
a position to take in other cats at the moment, mostly
because of Stitch's particular personality issues. :)
If I think of or find anyone who is, though, or if my
situation changes, I'll keep you in mind.

 Best of luck with your new quest on educating
 yourself on FeLV. There's so
 much to learn as I've found out this past week! But,
 the people here are so
 helpful and understanding-I'm so glad you've found
 this resource as well!

Thanks!

Joe
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A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra

RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Cassandra, My heart hurts for you! Tomi is so beautiful. His eyes just speak
volumes. Thanks for sharing your pictures. Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

 

I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg

 

 

And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg

 

 

Cassandra



Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra he is a VERY handsome boy.I love the pic of him and Kisa!! 
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
   
   
  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
   
   
  Cassandra


   
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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Sally Davis

Hi Cassandra,

Tomi looks like my Tiny who passed this past Christmas day. Tiny liked to
cuddle with Ittle Bitty just like your Tomi and Kisa.

They are both beautiful.

Sally


On 4/14/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra



Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
Cassandra,
Those are beautiful photos of Tomi and  Kisa!
Thank you for sharing them with us!
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

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OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
Hi all,
It looks as we have a Feral pregnant  Mom that has found her way to us. 
I'm going to trap her and put her on my back  porch so she can tame down. Also 
have her babies safely. She is just a tiger  strip kitty and very small. I 
have named her Little Girl
My question is Can she be wormed?
Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after the birth of  the kittens?
I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on my cats. I've  never had any 
problems with it.
I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I can get about 2  feet from her 
and drop some food down. I back off and she eats it  up.
I have been feeding her with my other Feral  kitties.
I normally wouldn't ask these questions but never had a  pregnant kitty 
either that lived outside that is feral. I can tell she is a  baby herself she 
is 
under a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months old. 
I will get her spayed for free after the babies are  born.
 
So as you can see I'm clueless on this!
Thanks for your help in this matter.
Hugs to all

 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

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SIAMESE   COLLIE RESCUE
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(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) 

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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
Sorry for the double postings!
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

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SIAMESE   COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
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(http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) 

_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) 

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(http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) 

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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread Nina
I see you haven't removed the invisible sign welcoming wayward ones from 
your front lawn :-) .  I Googled your question about worming pregnant 
cats and got conflicting answers. If it where me, esp given her age and 
circumstance, I'd have her spayed and the kittens aborted.  It may sound 
harsh, but I've come to that conclusion from harsh realities.  I 
completely understand and respect your decision to let her have her 
kittens, esp if she is in good health and you are able to take on the 
responsibility.  I love the babies and even with my harsh opening 
disclaimer would be thrilled to hear the pitter patter of little kitten 
paws about the place.  If you are going to take this on, I would bring 
her to the vet and have her checked.  At the very least, get a stool 
sample and have it checked for worms.  I know there are certain worms 
that can be dangerous for the kittens.  From the behavior you describe, 
I'm betting Little Girl will tame up in no time.  She sounds like she is 
reaching out to you and has had at least some good experiences with 
humans.  What a smart girl to have found her way to you!

Congratulations.  Please keep us informed,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

*/Hi all,/*
*/It looks as we have a Feral pregnant Mom that has found her way 
to us. I'm going to trap her and put her on my back porch so she can 
tame down. Also have her babies safely. She is just a tiger strip 
kitty and very small. I have named her Little Girl/*

*/My question is Can she be wormed?/*
*/Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after the birth of the 
kittens?/*
*/I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on my cats. I've never 
had any problems with it./*
*/I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I can get about 2 feet 
from her and drop some food down. I back off and she eats it up./*

*/I have been feeding her with my other Feral kitties./*
*/I normally wouldn't ask these questions but never had a pregnant 
kitty either that lived outside that is feral. I can tell she is a 
baby herself she is under a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months old. /*

*/I will get her spayed for free after the babies are born./*
*//* 
*/So as you can see I'm clueless on this!/*

*/Thanks for your help in this matter./*
*/Hugs to all/*
*//* 
*/Terrie Mohr-Forker/*


Re: pungent urine

2007-04-14 Thread catatonya
How long has it been since Cassidy was neutered???
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works pretty good.  Dixie gets the little round pearls in the pads of her paws 
so we are trying the chips.  Also consider using a Rubbermaid or knock off 
storage box for his litter box (no lid please).  I use the 18 gallon or
 larger ones and cut a u-shaped hole for the cat to walk in.  More room, less 
concentration and high walls for any difficulties hitting the litter.  I love 
them.  I started using them when Ebony was about 18 years old and was having 
trouble getting down.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
- Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:33 AM
  Subject: Re: pungent urine
  

  Try probiotics (health food store or order Fastrack).  Also have him checked 
for a UTI.  This is not natural. 
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
- Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:55 AM
  Subject: pungent urine
  

Cassidy, my new FeLV+, has very aromatic pee! I had to use clay litter 
because he didn’t understand the crystals, but even so, I think when I get him 
switched to crystals, it will still be unbearable. Baking soda does not cover 
this smell. He’s been neutered, and he’s not marking, it’s just out of his 
litter box. Is there anything I can feed him? Any product that could help? I 
couldn’t even sleep last night because our house is unreasonably stinky! I love 
this guy, but I’m going to be embarrassed to let anyone over! Even my husband, 
who works around manure every day, was sickened by the smell!




RE: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Terrie,

I agree with Nina. I just made this difficult decision last week and had
Nonie (a rescue) spay/abort. However, this is such a personal choice; you
have to do what you feel is right. I took in 3 rescues/foster cats last
week, and I don't run a shelter. Since I couldn't afford it if Nonie had
babies, I decided to do this. Also, I know that where I live, trying to find
a home for these three fosters will be next to impossible let alone a
litter. But, I know it's a delicate and controversial issue-one that I
grappled with quite a bit. Good luck with Little Girl-poor baby! Best
Wishes, Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Pregnant Feral KittyQuestions

 

I see you haven't removed the invisible sign welcoming wayward ones from
your front lawn :-) .  I Googled your question about worming pregnant cats
and got conflicting answers. If it where me, esp given her age and
circumstance, I'd have her spayed and the kittens aborted.  It may sound
harsh, but I've come to that conclusion from harsh realities.  I completely
understand and respect your decision to let her have her kittens, esp if she
is in good health and you are able to take on the responsibility.  I love
the babies and even with my harsh opening disclaimer would be thrilled to
hear the pitter patter of little kitten paws about the place.  If you are
going to take this on, I would bring her to the vet and have her checked.
At the very least, get a stool sample and have it checked for worms.  I know
there are certain worms that can be dangerous for the kittens.  From the
behavior you describe, I'm betting Little Girl will tame up in no time.  She
sounds like she is reaching out to you and has had at least some good
experiences with humans.  What a smart girl to have found her way to you!
Congratulations.  Please keep us informed,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hi all,

It looks as we have a Feral pregnant Mom that has found her way to us.
I'm going to trap her and put her on my back porch so she can tame down.
Also have her babies safely. She is just a tiger strip kitty and very small.
I have named her Little Girl

My question is Can she be wormed?

Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after the birth of the kittens?

I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on my cats. I've never had any
problems with it.

I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I can get about 2 feet from her
and drop some food down. I back off and she eats it up.

I have been feeding her with my other Feral kitties.

I normally wouldn't ask these questions but never had a pregnant kitty
either that lived outside that is feral. I can tell she is a baby herself
she is under a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months old. 

I will get her spayed for free after the babies are born.

 

So as you can see I'm clueless on this!

Thanks for your help in this matter.

Hugs to all

 

Terrie Mohr-Forker 



Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn 
much..I know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose 
steroids or cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in this 
situation I think immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as 
much good healing energy as possible

Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra


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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
That is a marvelous little cat who obviously adores you...just look into 
his eyes






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
  Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today


  I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


  Cassandra

RE: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 11:44 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:



I have been there also, and for me I do have the 
pregnancy terminated. Especially with a baby 
herself and the potential for homes so bad, It is 
a hard decision but one I never regret, thanks 
for all the caring and giving this little girl a chance,

Kelly


Terrie,
I agree with Nina. I just made this difficult 
decision last week and had Nonie (a rescue) 
spay/abort. However, this is such a personal 
choice; you have to do what you feel is right. I 
took in 3 rescues/foster cats last week, and I 
don’t run a shelter. Since I couldn’t afford it 
if Nonie had babies, I decided to do this. Also, 
I know that where I live, trying to find a home 
for these three fosters will be next to 
impossible let alone a litter. But, I know it’s 
a delicate and controversial issue­one that I 
grappled with quite a bit. Good luck with Little 
Girl­poor baby! Best Wishes, Melissa



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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Pregnant Feral KittyQuestions

I see you haven't removed the invisible sign 
welcoming wayward ones from your front lawn :-) 
.  I Googled your question about worming 
pregnant cats and got conflicting answers. If it 
where me, esp given her age and circumstance, 
I'd have her spayed and the kittens aborted.  It 
may sound harsh, but I've come to that 
conclusion from harsh realities.  I completely 
understand and respect your decision to let her 
have her kittens, esp if she is in good health 
and you are able to take on the 
responsibility.  I love the babies and even with 
my harsh opening disclaimer would be thrilled to 
hear the pitter patter of little kitten paws 
about the place.  If you are going to take this 
on, I would bring her to the vet and have her 
checked.  At the very least, get a stool sample 
and have it checked for worms.  I know there are 
certain worms that can be dangerous for the 
kittens.  From the behavior you describe, I'm 
betting Little Girl will tame up in no 
time.  She sounds like she is reaching out to 
you and has had at least some good experiences 
with humans.  What a smart girl to have found her way to you!

Congratulations.  Please keep us informed,
Nina

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
It looks as we have a Feral pregnant Mom 
that has found her way to us. I'm going to trap 
her and put her on my back porch so she can 
tame down. Also have her babies safely. She is 
just a tiger strip kitty and very small. I have named her Little Girl

My question is Can she be wormed?
Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after the birth of the kittens?
I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on 
my cats. I've never had any problems with it.
I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I 
can get about 2 feet from her and drop some food 
down. I back off and she eats it up.

I have been feeding her with my other Feral kitties.
I normally wouldn't ask these questions but 
never had a pregnant kitty either that lived 
outside that is feral. I can tell she is a baby 
herself she is under a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months old.

I will get her spayed for free after the babies are born.

So as you can see I'm clueless on this!
Thanks for your help in this matter.
Hugs to all

Terrie Mohr-Forker


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RE: pungent urine

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
He was neutered April 3rd. I now realize that it was just his hormones
coming out. And I'm happy to report that there is no more nasty smell. His
poo is now more odorous than his piddles, so it's very tolerable now. Also,
I was able to switch him over to crystals quite easily by sprinkling his
used clay litter over the top. Now everything dries out much faster and the
smell is contained. He has a giant litter box (a plastic tote); he doesn't
spray or mark; all-in-all we are very happy! I'm not sure if you read this
on my other posts, but he's been accepted to Best Friends in Utah for after
May 1st, but I can't take him there until after July 1st (pending his second
IFA test), so it's kind of up in the air about his future there. Best,
Melissa

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pungent urine

 

How long has it been since Cassidy was neutered???

t

Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You can mix the crystals with the clay--I do and it works pretty good.
Dixie gets the little round pearls in the pads of her paws so we are trying
the chips.  Also consider using a Rubbermaid or knock off storage box for
his litter box (no lid please).  I use the 18 gallon or larger ones and cut
a u-shaped hole for the cat to walk in.  More room, less concentration and
high walls for any difficulties hitting the litter.  I love them.  I started
using them when Ebony was about 18 years old and was having trouble getting
down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

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From: Marylyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:33 AM

Subject: Re: pungent urine

 

Try probiotics (health food store or order Fastrack).  Also have him checked
for a UTI.  This is not natural. 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message - 

From: Melissa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Lind 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:55 AM

Subject: pungent urine

 

Cassidy, my new FeLV+, has very aromatic pee! I had to use clay litter
because he didn't understand the crystals, but even so, I think when I get
him switched to crystals, it will still be unbearable. Baking soda does not
cover this smell. He's been neutered, and he's not marking, it's just out of
his litter box. Is there anything I can feed him? Any product that could
help? I couldn't even sleep last night because our house is unreasonably
stinky! I love this guy, but I'm going to be embarrassed to let anyone over!
Even my husband, who works around manure every day, was sickened by the
smell!

 



Re: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
I wouldn't even consider vaccinating her until after the babies are weaned.  
Vaccines weaken the body and, in her condition, even just a little could be too 
much.  Check with a really good vet re worming.  Without firm evidence that she 
had worms I wouldn't.  How far along is she?  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:23 PM
  Subject: OT: Pregnant Feral KittyQuestions


  Hi all,
  It looks as we have a Feral pregnant Mom that has found her way to us. 
I'm going to trap her and put her on my back porch so she can tame down. Also 
have her babies safely. She is just a tiger strip kitty and very small. I have 
named her Little Girl
  My question is Can she be wormed?
  Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after the birth of the kittens?
  I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on my cats. I've never had any 
problems with it.
  I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I can get about 2 feet from her 
and drop some food down. I back off and she eats it up.
  I have been feeding her with my other Feral kitties.
  I normally wouldn't ask these questions but never had a pregnant kitty either 
that lived outside that is feral. I can tell she is a baby herself she is under 
a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months old. 
  I will get her spayed for free after the babies are born.

  So as you can see I'm clueless on this!
  Thanks for your help in this matter.
  Hugs to all

  Terrie Mohr-Forker

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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS
Terrie,
 
I disagree with aborting kittens unless you absolutely have no option. When  
I adopt kittens too young to be altered, the spay/neuter is included in the  
adoption fee and must be done at my vet. Bingo, if they are late getting them  
fixed I know it since I havent gotten a bill from my vet. I call and if they  
don't get them altered I take the cat back (its only happened once) then mom 
and  all babes are fixed and the cycle for that family stops. 
Karen



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? Stomatitis ?

2007-04-14 Thread Sheila Coyle
 ? In a colony of feral felines, can stomatitis be fatal ?

 

Thank you.

 

Sheila

Nebraska



RE: ? Stomatitis ?

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Hi Sheila, This is not an answer to your question-sorry! I'm off topic, but
I couldn't help but notice that you're from Nebraska. I have 1 FeLV cat and
2 negatives that need homes. I'm new to this. I've contacted many rescues in
NE with no luck. If you have any helpful contacts, could you let me know?
You can always email me straight to my address if you want. Thanks, Melissa

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheila Coyle
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ? Stomatitis ? 

 

 ? In a colony of feral felines, can stomatitis be fatal ?

 

Thank you.

 

Sheila

Nebraska



Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet 
angels be added to the list.
  Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her 
beautiful sister Carissa.
  Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking 
but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him 
the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he 
was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him 
gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
  This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in 
my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
  Sherry

   
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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
Both Cassandra and Brunello send you total love for caring about them.  Please 
Google for the Bridge poem for volunteers.  It is totally true.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:15 PM
  Subject: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(


  Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet 
angels be added to the list.
  Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her 
beautiful sister Carissa.
  Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking 
but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him 
the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he 
was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him 
gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
  This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in 
my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
  Sherry


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RE: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Sherry, hugs and prayers. Sometimes the most difficult things are the most
wonderful, as you've pointed out. I hope a little ray of sunshine finds you
today. Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:15 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

 

Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet
angels be added to the list.

Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her
beautiful sister Carissa.

Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking
but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with
him the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday
and he was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she
found him gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his
trachea.

This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done
in my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.

Sherry

  

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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I'm using steroids right now, 2 tablets of prednisone per day.  This is back to 
the dosage he was at for a week after his transfusion.  This is basically the 
last thing the vet said we could try, she didn't say anything about 
cyclosporins.

I think he needs the immune suppression as well, though I don't know if his 
bone marrow isn't producing enough red cells, or the virus is killing the new 
cells.  It just seems odd that his red count was going up for a couple of weeks 
after the transfusion, and now its going down.  I'm wondering if maybe the 
virus took over his bone marrow while his immune system was suppressed from the 
prednisone, but I guess its pretty hard to know what is going on.

Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly L 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today


  At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




  He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn much..I 
know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose steroids or 
cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in this situation I think 
immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
  We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as much good 
healing energy as possible
  Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
 
 
And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
 
 
Cassandra


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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I'm really sorry about Cassandra and Brunello, were they FeLV kitties?  You are 
very brave to volunteer to help these kitties that need a little love after a 
rough life.  I don't know if I could be brave enough to do the same thing.  It 
must be so heartbreaking at times.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:15 PM
  Subject: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(


  Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet 
angels be added to the list.
  Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her 
beautiful sister Carissa.
  Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking 
but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him 
the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he 
was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him 
gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
  This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in 
my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
  Sherry


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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 01:33 PM 4/14/2007, you wrote:



If there were away to make this easier I sure would. We are sending 
lot's of good energy to you.please stay on line and just talk to use 
when ever you need to. We are all here for each other,

Kelly




I'm using steroids right now, 2 tablets of prednisone per day.  This 
is back to the dosage he was at for a week after his 
transfusion.  This is basically the last thing the vet said we could 
try, she didn't say anything about cyclosporins.


I think he needs the immune suppression as well, though I don't know 
if his bone marrow isn't producing enough red cells, or the virus is 
killing the new cells.  It just seems odd that his red count was 
going up for a couple of weeks after the transfusion, and now its 
going down.  I'm wondering if maybe the virus took over his bone 
marrow while his immune system was suppressed from the prednisone, 
but I guess its pretty hard to know what is going on.


Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

Cassandra
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn 
much..I know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose 
steroids or cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in 
this situation I think immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as 
much good healing energy as possible

Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra


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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 12:15 PM 4/14/2007, you wrote:



Oh Sherry, it is so hard and you go through this much too often, What 
you do is so wonderful. You have more strength than I do and you are 
making a wonderful difference in the lives of all these fur kids, Thank you

Kelly




Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that 
these sweet angels be added to the list.
Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now 
with her beautiful sister Carissa.
Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough 
looking but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I 
fell in love with him the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I 
was just there Thursday and he was fine.Yesterday morning when one 
of the volunteers came in,she found him gasping for breath.It was 
found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I 
have done in my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.

Sherry


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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Kelly it is VERY hard in times like this.But I am honored to have loved them 
all that I can

Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  At 12:15 PM 4/14/2007, you wrote:



Oh Sherry, it is so hard and you go through this much too often, What you do is 
so wonderful. You have more strength than I do and you are making a wonderful 
difference in the lives of all these fur kids, Thank you
Kelly




  Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet 
angels be added to the list.
Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her 
beautiful sister Carissa.
Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking but 
very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him the 
second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he was 
fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him gasping 
for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in 
my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
Sherry


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Stitch - Questions!

2007-04-14 Thread Joe Reil
 feeding a super-premium commercial
 cat food, such as Innova, Wellness, Chicken Soup for
 the Cat, or Felidae (just some
 good examples - I feed felidae or Innova dry and
 merrick or innova canned), or you
 can make your own homemade diet using a recipe found

My local small pet store seems to be well stocked
and has Innova dry and canned and Merrick's canned, as
well as a few other brands (Nature's Own I think was
the other big one). I bought a couple cans of the
Merrick's today so we'll see how she likes that.

If she likes those I'll probably see about ordering
larger supplies.

I may go the route of making our own stuff here at
some point, but not quite ready for that adventure. :)

Still not an entirely alien experience as I've kept
Iguanas in the past and I put quite a bit of effort
into making weekly supplies of salad for them, when
I still had them. :)

I'm also a little curious about Interferon, which I've
seen mentioned. Is this simply an immune booster or is
it doing something else?

As some have mentioned I probably will plan to get her
retested in about 6 months, my only real concern with
the Interferon is if it turns out she is clean on her
second test is that something that can have any
harmful effects?

Another consideration is that the vet recommended a
teeth cleaning because she's got some tartar/calculus
build up and her gums are kind of red. The vet did
mention that because of the FELV+ result, that we
should give her antibiotics a day or two before she's
due for that procedure to give her system a boost
before the procedure, any opinions on that?

I've also seen blood-tests what-not mentioned. I'm
assuming when these are talked about, they're
primarily general well-being kind of tests? This is
something I should do? What type of results would be
ideal/bad/inbetween? i.e., what should we be looking
for?

Thanks,

Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, it's not a great picture, but I do have a photo
of Stitch posted on a web-forum I take part in
(related to Fender guitars):
http://www.fenderforum.com/userphotos/index.html?recid=18077

The other cat in the photo is Zoro and this picture
was taken probably a month or two before he died, back
in 2005.

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2007-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here are some links to treatment? of FELV using Cobra Venom? Some are 
fairly old.


Have any heard of this?

http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/54/3/873.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2820273dopt=Abstract

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=551090

http://iai.asm.org/cgi/reprint/29/1/165.pdf





Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Belinda
   I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for *longer 
than 6 weeks*, only my opinion but I would put him back on it.  Has he 
been checked for Ehrlichia?  Please make sure you vet is aware of these 
possibilities, talked about below.


Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia:

http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2590

Some other causes:

*Feline Haemobartonellosis* is the most frequent cause of anemia in 
cats either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat 
with another disease such as feline leukemia will be more 
susceptible.) The prevalence of the disease is higher in male and 
outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted by ticks and also can be 
transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. Symptoms can 
include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can 
become severe.


*Feline Babesiosis* is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia 
protozoan microorganism. The tick Rhipicephalus sanguineos is the 
culprit for this one. Signs to look for include fever, anemia and 
jaundice.


*Feline Cytauxzoonosis* is a disease in domestic cats that causes 
severe anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly 
by the Dermacentor variabilis. Cats with access to the outdoors are 
at a higher risk of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, 
loss of appetite and depression.


If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen 
eye on your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes.



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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread C J
Those links are an interesting read, but from what I understood, Feline 
Babesiosis and Cytauxzoonosis are extremely rare in North America.  It looks 
like those mainly occur in South America.  For the Ehrlichia, it looks like it 
also uses Doxycycline as a treatment, so even if Tomi had it, he should be 
treated for it.

It looks like bone marrow suppression is the main cause of anemia in FeLV 
cases, but they don't seem to offer any suggestion on dealing with that :(.

There is one thing I am wondering about with Tomi, and I can't figure out the 
cause.  For the last week or so, something seems to be irritating him.  He will 
sometimes suddenly run a few steps and lick himself vigorously in several 
different spots.  He also seems to be scratching his head/neck more often than 
normal.

I was wondering if he might have fleas, but I can't see anything in his fur.  I 
see no flea droppings etc.  About all i've found is a couple of very small 
scabs, that could easily have been cause by his scratching.  I doubt he has ear 
mites either, since his ears are very clean looking.

Its not likely this has anything to do with his anemia, but its just something 
I find a bit odd.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


  I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for longer than 
6 weeks, only my opinion but I would put him back on it.  Has he been checked 
for Ehrlichia?  Please make sure you vet is aware of these possibilities, 
talked about below.

  Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia:

  http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425

  http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2590

  Some other causes:


Feline Haemobartonellosis is the most frequent cause of anemia in cats 
either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat with another 
disease such as feline leukemia will be more susceptible.) The prevalence of 
the disease is higher in male and outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted 
by ticks and also can be transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. 
Symptoms can include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can 
become severe.

Feline Babesiosis is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia protozoan 
microorganism. The tick Rhipicephalus sanguineos is the culprit for this one. 
Signs to look for include fever, anemia and jaundice.

Feline Cytauxzoonosis is a disease in domestic cats that causes severe 
anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly by the 
Dermacentor variabilis. Cats with access to the outdoors are at a higher risk 
of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, loss of appetite and 
depression.

If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen eye on 
your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes.



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RE: Ages please

2007-04-14 Thread JENI RECA

Hi
Papoose tested positive age 5 weeks had him until 9 months old
Hillman Waller tested positive 4 months had him until 1 1/2 years old (he 
developed lymphosarcoma in his throat, but was very healthy up to that point 
in his life, as far as I know he was only tested once and that was at 4 
months and that is why I took him in)
Cree tested positive 4 months still going strong at 8 months (Cree and her 
sister (who did not make it) as far as I know had not been tested before 
they reached 4 months)
Nookie a feral tested positive when she was going to just be trapped spayed 
and released, aged by vet as an adult (between 3-5 years) and now living 
indoors

Jeni


From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ages please
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:26:16 -0700

Would anyone mind sharing me the ages of your FELV cats and age of 
diagnosis.

Thanks so much
Kelly

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RE: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help

2007-04-14 Thread JENI RECA
I hope you find a wonderful home for her.  Another reason that being a black 
cat is a strike against her, is everybody over looks a black cat.  They find 
calicos, orange, and white cats more interesting and want a prettier cat 
(I personally think black cats are beautiful), that is why a lot of black 
dogs are over looked in a shelter too.

Good luck!
Jeni


From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT)

Oh, she sounds so sweet and it is so sad that she was
trying to find security in anybody's car! I hope you
find her a home or who belongs to her.  I love black
cats.  My Thomaseena was black and lived to be about
18 years old.  I grew up with her.  When she died I
lost my best friend.  My diabetic cat (Katie) is black
and she holds a very special place in my heart. Is
someone taking care of her until then?  Did you say
she was declawed?  It isn't cheap to have a kitty
declawed.  You would think somebody cared about her.
I will be praying that you find this poor sweet girl's
home or a new home.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Debbie, I bet Nina meant that some people are
 superstitious or believe old
 wives tales (bad luck if a black cat crosses your
 path, etc.). Funny that
 this post occurred on Friday the 13th! Double
 superstitions! I just saw a
 beautiful, silky, short hair all black cat roaming
 our back yard. I called
 to it from our deck, but it had better things to do!
 I personally am not
 superstitious about black cats, but I do throw
 spilled salt over my left
 shoulder! :) Melissa

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Debbie
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help

 out of curiosity - why would a cat have a strike
 against her for being
 black? I'm curious.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help
 
 Hi Nan,
 I took the liberty of changing the subject line of
 your post to better
 indicate what it's about.  What a little love this
 girl sounds like!
 Poor angel on her own with no front claws trying to
 get into the safety
 a human's car.  It makes me want to go and scoop
 her up myself, (I won't
 even mention that to Bruce or my overcrowded
 household).
 
 Who has the cat right now?  Has anyone posted
 flyers at the campground
 in case she accidently became lost from her people?
  Someone might be
 heartbroken and looking for her as I type this.
 Are you checking local
 papers for lost ads?  Has someone posted a found ad
 in the paper near
 where the campgrounds are?  They should also file a
 found report with
 the local animal shelter and ask if anyone has
 reported her missing to
 the shelter.
 
 She does have a strike against her because she's
 black, (I personally
 love black cats), but she has quite a rescue story
 and that might help
 to find her a home.  The very best to you and this
 sweet baby, please
 let us know what happens to her.  Hey...  Wasn't
 there just someone very
 nice on this list that was thinking about adopting
 a neg cat???  Who was
 that?  Wasn't it Marissa??  Marissa, did you end up
 adopting more cats
 yet??
 Nina
 
 Nan Gelman wrote:
  hi all,
 
  It has been a while since I have posted to this
 site, but I need some
 help is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would
 like to adopt a very
 sweet all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty
 was found in a camp
 grounds trying to get in to anyone's car that she
 could. She is about a year
 old sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative
 for both FELV and FIV
 She is very sweet and gentle. Please let me know
 asap.
 
  Thanks so much
 
  Nan
 
 








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RE: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion neededon site visit for Maltese shelter

2007-04-14 Thread JENI RECA

Hi Kelley,
Maybe you should inquire with them if they have a back up plan if the city 
does try to inforce thier pet limit law, like what are they going to do with 
the animals.  The only thing I think of is that you wouldnt want to place an 
animal in a home and maybe that animal is the breaking point for a neighbor, 
plus people are very fickle (we are not allowed to park in our driveway, we 
live in a city, because a neighbor complained and called the city and our 
drive way is not up to code because it doesnt have a cut out at the front of 
the drive..go figure!)  but at the same time we are over our limit of 
animals and luckily nobody has complained (cross my fingers!)  It is a fine 
line as you want to place the animal in the best home possible and they may 
be it, but at the same time you wouldnt want anything to happen to that 
animal, and also you wouldnt want the shelter to get in trouble for knowing 
that person was over thier limit and still placed an animal in thier home.  
good luck

Jeni


From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion 
neededon site visit for Maltese shelter

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:40:40 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Kelley,

Well, I am definitely in violation of city
codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I just
didn't know if there were certain written or
un-written rules that shelters follow when it comes to
that particular issue.  The contract does ask how many
animals live in the home, so I know it's a factor.
I'll be interested to hear what the shelter owner
decides to do.  She's in Austin too.

How's Joey doing today?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly
 and should be abolished.

 But that's beside the point.

 What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and
 tomorrow they changed
 it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't predict
 the future.  What
 if they move somewhere where the code is only 4
 dogs?

 How many of us have had animals

 1.  in excess of city codes
 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
 3.  in secret from our landlord
 4...well, I think you get the point.

 Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here,
 though the shelter
 limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a
 time.

 They only count litters as 1, though.  So all my
 litters, including
 the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1.
 That's how I get
 around it.  Heh.

 On 4/12/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey guys,
 
  I went on my first site visit tonight with my
 friend
  who lives here in San Antonio.  The only real
 concern
  she and I both had were that the family already
 has 5
  dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
 subdivision
  home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
  large, although the backyard is nicely sized).
 The
  municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
  cats be in one home at a time.  So our question,
  especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this:
 if
  you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a
 good
  family, will put that family in violation of city
  codes, would you do it?  My friend is not the one
  making the decision; she's just reporting the
  information to the shelter.  We were just curious
 as
  to what your thoughts are on this.
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
In a message dated 4/14/2007 11:46:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I see  you haven't removed the invisible sign welcoming wayward ones from 
your front  lawn :-) . 
Nopeit's still on...lmao
Think people have figured out I'm a rescue even though I keep a  low profile 
in my neck of the woods.
Well, the female is about a week or two from having them.  Husband says no 
way on aborting them. He is from the old school and he would  never forgive me 
if I did this.
Overall, she appears to be in good health. Will know more when  I get her 
inside out of the rain and cold.
Have intentions of spaying and neutering everybody before they  leave. I 
don't need anymore kittens or cats as I have 10 personal kitties. They  will 
not 
be mixed in with my own cats. Geez, that would make my place a  ZOO
Where I live the female can roam again after she is  spayed and vaccinated.  
Who knows maybe my daughter will take her when she  leaves and moves into her 
own place soon...I hope!
I will take some photos of her and show you guys the kittens  after they are 
born.

I  Googled your question about worming pregnant cats and got conflicting 
answers.  If it where me, esp given her age and circumstance, I'd have her 
spayed 
and  the kittens aborted.  It may sound harsh, but I've come to that  
conclusion from harsh realities.  I completely understand and respect  your 
decision 
to let her have her kittens, esp if she is in good health and  you are able to 
take on the responsibility.  I love the babies and even  with my harsh opening 
disclaimer would be thrilled to hear the pitter patter  of little kitten paws 
about the place.  If you are going to take this on,  I would bring her to the 
vet and have her checked.  At the very least,  get a stool sample and have it 
checked for worms.  I know there are  certain worms that can be dangerous for 
the kittens.  From the behavior  you describe, I'm betting Little Girl will 
tame up in no time.  She  sounds like she is reaching out to you and has had at 
least some good  experiences with humans.  What a smart girl to have found 
her way to  you!
Congratulations.  Please keep us  informed,
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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
Karen, don't worry it won't happen.
Will alter everyone at the same time so the cycle does  stop.
 
In a message dated 4/14/2007 12:05:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Terrie,
 
I disagree with aborting kittens unless you absolutely have no option.  When 
I adopt kittens too young to be altered, the spay/neuter is included in  the 
adoption fee and must be done at my vet. Bingo, if they are late getting  them 
fixed I know it since I havent gotten a bill from my vet. I call and if  they 
don't get them altered I take the cat back (its only happened once) then  mom 
and all babes are fixed and the cycle for that family stops. 
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Re: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
In a message dated 4/14/2007 11:53:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I wouldn't even consider vaccinating her  until after the babies are weaned.  
Vaccines weaken the body and, in her  condition, even just a little could be 
too much.  Check with a really  good vet re worming.  Without firm evidence 
that she had worms I  wouldn't.  How far along is she?  



About 2 weeks at the most.
I will contact me my Vets on Monday about the  worming.
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Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I've been wondering why Tomi seems to be scratching more than normal, and 
licking himself vigorously once in awhile this last week.  I wasn't that 
concerned about it since he doesn't scratch constantly, just more often than 
normal.

I checked through his fur a few times, and didn't see much of anything.  I've 
never noticed fleas on any of my other pets either.

Tonight I noticed a some black dots on his lip and a little on his chin, so I 
checked his fur thoroughly with a flashlight.  I found some more of the black 
dots on his tail.  The rest of his fur looks clear, though it is difficult to 
see all of his skin through the thick fur.

I imagine this could mean he has a few fleas, but would it be enough to 
actually cause his anemia?  From what I read, fleas usually only cause anemia 
in young kittens and elderly cats.

Likely i'm just overreacting, because I don't see how a few fleas would cause 
his PCV to be so low.  As well, I would be scared to treat him with anything to 
kill them at the moment, while he's going through such a tough time.  

Cassandra

Re: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread Susan Hoffman
Don't vaccinate while pregnant or nursing.  I have a mom and babies in a foster 
home right  now -- mom found in a field with 2 week old babies and taken to the 
shelter, where I pulled her.  We've already lost two of the four babies.  Just 
found out yesterday that the shelter vet gave mom the FVRCP and rabies vaccines 
before releasing her.  I am sure this stress on top of everything else is why 
we're losing kittens.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 4/14/2007 11:53:14 A.M. 
Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wouldn't even consider vaccinating her until after the babies are weaned. 
 Vaccines weaken the body and, in her condition, even just a little could be 
too much.  Check with a really good vet re worming.  Without firm evidence that 
she had worms I wouldn't.  How far along is she?  

  
  About 2 weeks at the most.
  I will contact me my Vets on Monday about the worming.
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Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
Yes they can--especially a cat that is in a weakened condition anyway.






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  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:38 PM
  Subject: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?


  I've been wondering why Tomi seems to be scratching more than normal, and 
licking himself vigorously once in awhile this last week.  I wasn't that 
concerned about it since he doesn't scratch constantly, just more often than 
normal.

  I checked through his fur a few times, and didn't see much of anything.  I've 
never noticed fleas on any of my other pets either.

  Tonight I noticed a some black dots on his lip and a little on his chin, so I 
checked his fur thoroughly with a flashlight.  I found some more of the black 
dots on his tail.  The rest of his fur looks clear, though it is difficult to 
see all of his skin through the thick fur.

  I imagine this could mean he has a few fleas, but would it be enough to 
actually cause his anemia?  From what I read, fleas usually only cause anemia 
in young kittens and elderly cats.

  Likely i'm just overreacting, because I don't see how a few fleas would cause 
his PCV to be so low.  As well, I would be scared to treat him with anything to 
kill them at the moment, while he's going through such a tough time.  

  Cassandra

RE: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread janine paton
I would spay her also, I'm sorry to say.  I don't like
it, neither do the vets, but I don't like the reality
of over population either.  We just took a little one
from a mom who could not or would not feed her babies
- the other 2 siblings died.  Next night, young tame
mother brought to animal control in distress and
bleeding - 3 dead kittens inside of her.  

I trapped a feral cat once, who looked so pregnant to
me - just HUGE - but with runny eyes, horrible
neighborhood, outside in freezing sleet - I could not
bring myself to spay her.  Thought for sure she'd have
her kittens the next day.  THREE WEEKS LATER she gave
birth - joke was on me!   2 great kittens, 2 not so
great - 5 yrs later still have one of those kittens
who strikes me as border-line autistic.  I love him
dearly, but who else will? 

But if you decide to NOT spay her, please ask a good
vet if she should be de-wormed or vaccinated.  I can
never remember these things, but if she needs to wait
until after her litter is born, no big deal. 

 
--- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Terrie,
 
 I agree with Nina. I just made this difficult
 decision last week and had
 Nonie (a rescue) spay/abort. However, this is such a
 personal choice; you
 have to do what you feel is right. I took in 3
 rescues/foster cats last
 week, and I don't run a shelter. Since I couldn't
 afford it if Nonie had
 babies, I decided to do this. Also, I know that
 where I live, trying to find
 a home for these three fosters will be next to
 impossible let alone a
 litter. But, I know it's a delicate and
 controversial issue-one that I
 grappled with quite a bit. Good luck with Little
 Girl-poor baby! Best
 Wishes, Melissa
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Nina
 Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Pregnant Feral KittyQuestions
 
  
 
 I see you haven't removed the invisible sign
 welcoming wayward ones from
 your front lawn :-) .  I Googled your question about
 worming pregnant cats
 and got conflicting answers. If it where me, esp
 given her age and
 circumstance, I'd have her spayed and the kittens
 aborted.  It may sound
 harsh, but I've come to that conclusion from harsh
 realities.  I completely
 understand and respect your decision to let her have
 her kittens, esp if she
 is in good health and you are able to take on the
 responsibility.  I love
 the babies and even with my harsh opening disclaimer
 would be thrilled to
 hear the pitter patter of little kitten paws about
 the place.  If you are
 going to take this on, I would bring her to the vet
 and have her checked.
 At the very least, get a stool sample and have it
 checked for worms.  I know
 there are certain worms that can be dangerous for
 the kittens.  From the
 behavior you describe, I'm betting Little Girl will
 tame up in no time.  She
 sounds like she is reaching out to you and has had
 at least some good
 experiences with humans.  What a smart girl to have
 found her way to you!
 Congratulations.  Please keep us informed,
 Nina
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Hi all,
 
 It looks as we have a Feral pregnant Mom that
 has found her way to us.
 I'm going to trap her and put her on my back porch
 so she can tame down.
 Also have her babies safely. She is just a tiger
 strip kitty and very small.
 I have named her Little Girl
 
 My question is Can she be wormed?
 
 Do you recommend she be vaccinated before or after
 the birth of the kittens?
 
 I use Heska...it is intra nasal vaccination on my
 cats. I've never had any
 problems with it.
 
 I can tell she wants to be friendly with me. I can
 get about 2 feet from her
 and drop some food down. I back off and she eats it
 up.
 
 I have been feeding her with my other Feral kitties.
 
 I normally wouldn't ask these questions but never
 had a pregnant kitty
 either that lived outside that is feral. I can tell
 she is a baby herself
 she is under a year old at the most maybe 7-9 months
 old. 
 
 I will get her spayed for free after the babies are
 born.
 
  
 
 So as you can see I'm clueless on this!
 
 Thanks for your help in this matter.
 
 Hugs to all
 
  
 
 Terrie Mohr-Forker 
 
 




Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread TenHouseCats

ABSOLUTELY. that's how i discovered flea-induced anemia years ago, and how i
learned that persians are abnormally sensitive to pesticides lost a
beautiful blue-cream darling during a really bad flea season because no
vet--then or since--had ever told me the latter (this was back in '90?), and
i did not, then, recognize the symptoms of anemia. when i talk about hard
lessons learned, that's probably the hardest any of my beloveds have taught
me.

MC

On 4/14/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes they can--especially a cat that is in a weakened condition anyway.






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:38 PM
*Subject:* Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

I've been wondering why Tomi seems to be scratching more than normal, and
licking himself vigorously once in awhile this last week.  I wasn't that
concerned about it since he doesn't scratch constantly, just more often than
normal.

I checked through his fur a few times, and didn't see much of anything.
I've never noticed fleas on any of my other pets either.

Tonight I noticed a some black dots on his lip and a little on his chin,
so I checked his fur thoroughly with a flashlight.  I found some more of the
black dots on his tail.  The rest of his fur looks clear, though it is
difficult to see all of his skin through the thick fur.

I imagine this could mean he has a few fleas, but would it be enough to
actually cause his anemia?  From what I read, fleas usually only cause
anemia in young kittens and elderly cats.

Likely i'm just overreacting, because I don't see how a few fleas would
cause his PCV to be so low.  As well, I would be scared to treat him with
anything to kill them at the moment, while he's going through such a tough
time.

Cassandra





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vaccine schedule and mixing negatives and positives

2007-04-14 Thread Jodie Marsten
Hi! I rescued Jack about 3 months ago and he is FeLV+ ) I took him from an 
abusive home with the intention of finding him a wonderful home). I have 6 
other cats, Mr.Furley (5yrs), Lucky (1 1/2 yrs), Ralphie, Janet, and Cleo  
(each 1 yr), and Furby (10 months). Everyone else has been tested for FeLV and 
is negative. I am unable to continue keeping Jack separated from the others and 
I have not been able to find him an appropriate home. I went to the holistic 
veterinarian who recommended vaccinating all - cats against FeLV and allowing 
them to mix. She said that FeLV is most often transmitted through bites etc. I 
have read so much info about FeLV being transmitted through saliva (all of 
my cats are VERY friendly and all groom eachother) and that 2 shots are given 
then an annual  booster is recommended. I guess my questions are as follows:
What are your experiences with mixing negatives and positives? 
Have any of your vaccinated cats contracted the disease? 
How long after vaccinating do I need to wait before introducing them? (Vet said 
48 hours).
Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thank you very much


   
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RE: vaccine schedule and mixing negatives and positives

2007-04-14 Thread Chris
Lots of folks will respond but as one who mixes, I never even think about
it.  My oldest positive was not diagnosed until she was 4 or so and by that
point all the others (3) had been around her all that time-they all were
neg.  They had not been vaccinated for FELV but now I vacc yearly.  I then
took in a second pos-an older stray I had been feeding but did not know he
was pos.  Tucson is 9 and we think Romeo is around the same age.  They eat
together, share litter boxes, toys, sleep together; groom each other; and I
never really worry about it.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jodie Marsten
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vaccine schedule and mixing negatives and positives

 

Hi! I rescued Jack about 3 months ago and he is FeLV+ ) I took him from an
abusive home with the intention of finding him a wonderful home). I have 6
other cats, Mr.Furley (5yrs), Lucky (1 1/2 yrs), Ralphie, Janet, and Cleo
(each 1 yr), and Furby (10 months). Everyone else has been tested for FeLV
and is negative. I am unable to continue keeping Jack separated from the
others and I have not been able to find him an appropriate home. I went to
the holistic veterinarian who recommended vaccinating all - cats against
FeLV and allowing them to mix. She said that FeLV is most often transmitted
through bites etc. I have read so much info about FeLV being transmitted
through saliva (all of my cats are VERY friendly and all groom eachother)
and that 2 shots are given then an annual  booster is recommended. I guess
my questions are as follows:
What are your experiences with mixing negatives and positives? 
Have any of your vaccinated cats contracted the disease? 
How long after vaccinating do I need to wait before introducing them? (Vet
said 48 hours).
Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thank you very much

  

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Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread C J
How many fleas does there need to be to cause anemia?  I don't think Tomi could 
have very many fleas, since I can't find alot of flea droppings (and I haven't 
found any actual fleas yet).

I'm just wondering how I could treat the fleas while he's in such a weakened 
state.  Wouldn't flea collars, chemicals etc be too hard on him right now?  I 
couldn't even imagine giving him a flea bath...that would be about as much 
stress as I could possibly put him through.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: TenHouseCats 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?


  ABSOLUTELY. that's how i discovered flea-induced anemia years ago, and how i 
learned that persians are abnormally sensitive to pesticides lost a 
beautiful blue-cream darling during a really bad flea season because no 
vet--then or since--had ever told me the latter (this was back in '90?), and i 
did not, then, recognize the symptoms of anemia. when i talk about hard lessons 
learned, that's probably the hardest any of my beloveds have taught me. 

  MC


  On 4/14/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes they can--especially a cat that is in a weakened condition anyway.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:38 PM
  Subject: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?


  I've been wondering why Tomi seems to be scratching more than normal, and 
licking himself vigorously once in awhile this last week.  I wasn't that 
concerned about it since he doesn't scratch constantly, just more often than 
normal.

  I checked through his fur a few times, and didn't see much of anything.  
I've never noticed fleas on any of my other pets either.

  Tonight I noticed a some black dots on his lip and a little on his chin, 
so I checked his fur thoroughly with a flashlight.  I found some more of the 
black dots on his tail.  The rest of his fur looks clear, though it is 
difficult to see all of his skin through the thick fur.

  I imagine this could mean he has a few fleas, but would it be enough to 
actually cause his anemia?  From what I read, fleas usually only cause anemia 
in young kittens and elderly cats.

  Likely i'm just overreacting, because I don't see how a few fleas would 
cause his PCV to be so low.  As well, I would be scared to treat him with 
anything to kill them at the moment, while he's going through such a tough 
time.  

  Cassandra



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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread wendy
Sherry,

I'm so sorry you all have lost two more beautiful
furbabies.  It must have been hard to come in and see
Brunello gasping like that.  Bless you guys for all
you do for all cats.

:)
Wendy

--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let
 me ask that these sweet angels be added to the list.
   Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us
 yesterday,she is now with her beautiful sister
 Carissa.
   Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took
 this wonderful rough looking but very handsome boy
 with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with
 him the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I
 was just there Thursday and he was fine.Yesterday
 morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found
 him gasping for breath.It was found that he had a
 large mass on his trachea.
   This volunteering is the hardest yet most
 rewarding thing that I have done in my life.I am soo
 glad that I have all of you to talk to.
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Re: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
In a message dated 4/14/2007 7:02:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Don't  vaccinate while pregnant or nursing.  I have a mom and babies in a 
foster  home right  now -- mom found in a field with 2 week old babies and 
taken  
to the shelter, where I pulled her.  We've already lost two of the four  
babies.  Just found out yesterday that the shelter vet gave mom the FVRCP  and 
rabies vaccines before releasing her.  I am sure this stress on top  of 
everything else is why we're losing  kittens.




Don't fear will not do the vaccinations until  later.
Thanks for the info!
 
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Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
Yes, fleas can cause anemia.
Scratching is a sign of fleas.
 
Also dots under the chin, lip, and the tail can be Feline  Acne.
Do you use plastic bowls for feeding and water? 
Plastic will cause the black spots (Feline Acne) if they don't  rub off right 
away.
Use ceramic or glass dishes if possible.
 
From what I read, fleas usually only cause anemia in young kittens and  
elderly cats.
That is not true. This will suppress the immune system when there  are other 
illnesses such as Felv. I've seen cats and dogs at all ages have  anemia due 
to fleas especially in shelter situations.
 
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Re: vaccine schedule and mixing negatives and positives

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
In a message dated 4/14/2007 8:28:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What are  your experiences with mixing negatives and positives? 
I mix both positive and negative together my personal kitties.  Never thought 
about it really. When one was diagnosed I had younger and senior  kitties 
living with him. They were tested and it came back negative. After he  passed 
still never had anyone come up negative. It was one great big family. It  was 
not 
an option to separate them.
 
Now, on my rescues I do not mix them with my personal kitties  there is no 
contact. 
So if something was to happen I don't have it in the back of my  mind if a 
rescue kitty came up positive from a adopter.


Have  any of your vaccinated cats contracted the disease? 
No, had them tested prior before giving the negatives their  vaccines.


How  long after vaccinating do I need to wait before introducing them? (Vet 
said 48  hours).
I never waited especially when they had been exposed  anyway.
These are just my opinions. 
Let your heart speak of whether this is what you want to do. I  don't have 
any regrets of mixing any of my fur-kids.





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Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread wendy
I am hoping that dealing with the fleas will help your
baby!!!  

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Find a lice comb and go thru his hair with it.  This
 should disturb the fleas.  You can pick them up with
 a wet q-tip too and drown them (sorry fleas, it is
 you or the cat).  It only takes a bite or two to
 give Dixie hotspots that require medical attention. 
 This is going to depend on the cat.  Also was any
 bedding etc in very hot water.  Fleas don't bother
 me and keeping up with Dixie v Fleas is difficult. 
 They may or may not be the cause of Tomi's problems
 but they sure can contribute to they.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
 have men who 
 
 will deal likewise with their fellow man.
 
  St. Francis
   - Original Message - 
   From: C  J 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:02 PM
   Subject: Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?
 
 
   How many fleas does there need to be to cause
 anemia?  I don't think Tomi could have very many
 fleas, since I can't find alot of flea droppings
 (and I haven't found any actual fleas yet).
 
   I'm just wondering how I could treat the fleas
 while he's in such a weakened state.  Wouldn't flea
 collars, chemicals etc be too hard on him right now?
  I couldn't even imagine giving him a flea
 bath...that would be about as much stress as I could
 possibly put him through.
 
   Cassandra
 - Original Message - 
 From: TenHouseCats 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult
 cats?
 
 
 ABSOLUTELY. that's how i discovered flea-induced
 anemia years ago, and how i learned that persians
 are abnormally sensitive to pesticides lost a
 beautiful blue-cream darling during a really bad
 flea season because no vet--then or since--had ever
 told me the latter (this was back in '90?), and i
 did not, then, recognize the symptoms of anemia.
 when i talk about hard lessons learned, that's
 probably the hardest any of my beloveds have taught
 me. 
 
 MC
 
 
 On 4/14/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 
   Yes they can--especially a cat that is in a
 weakened condition anyway.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   If you have men who will exclude any of God's
 creatures
 
   from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
 have men who 
 
   will deal likewise with their fellow man.
 
St. Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: C  J 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:38 PM
 Subject: Can fleas cause anemia in adult
 cats?
 
 
 I've been wondering why Tomi seems to be
 scratching more than normal, and licking himself
 vigorously once in awhile this last week.  I wasn't
 that concerned about it since he doesn't scratch
 constantly, just more often than normal.
 
 I checked through his fur a few times, and
 didn't see much of anything.  I've never noticed
 fleas on any of my other pets either.
 
 Tonight I noticed a some black dots on his
 lip and a little on his chin, so I checked his fur
 thoroughly with a flashlight.  I found some more of
 the black dots on his tail.  The rest of his fur
 looks clear, though it is difficult to see all of
 his skin through the thick fur.
 
 I imagine this could mean he has a few
 fleas, but would it be enough to actually cause his
 anemia?  From what I read, fleas usually only cause
 anemia in young kittens and elderly cats.
 
 Likely i'm just overreacting, because I
 don't see how a few fleas would cause his PCV to be
 so low.  As well, I would be scared to treat him
 with anything to kill them at the moment, while he's
 going through such a tough time.  
 
 Cassandra
 
 
 
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 Maybe That'll Make The Difference
 
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Re: Can fleas cause anemia in adult cats?

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
Go buy a flea comb they are very cheap at any store. Of course  there some 
that look like a very fine comb with handles. It depends on what you  want to 
purchase.
Run the comb through the kitty's fur. You will see more black  stuff (Flea 
Dirt) hopefully catch the critter or two. When you get one on the  flea comb 
rinse it off in water or use a set of tweezers and squash it. You  gotta kill 
it 
if anything squeeze it with your fingernails.
It only takes a flea or two to start the anemia especially with  a weak 
immune system.
 
In a message dated 4/14/2007 8:28:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How many fleas does there need to be to cause  anemia?  I don't think Tomi 
could have very many fleas, since I  can't find alot of flea droppings (and I 
haven't found any actual fleas  yet).
 
I'm just wondering how I could treat the fleas  while he's in such a weakened 
state.  Wouldn't flea collars, chemicals  etc be too hard on him right now?  
I couldn't even imagine giving him a  flea bath...that would be about as much 
stress as I could possibly put him  through.
 
Cassandra




 
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_http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ 
(http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) 

_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ 
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_http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) 

_http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ 
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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread wendy
Cassandra,

Tomi is gorgeous!!!  What a beautiful face!  The good
thing for Tomi, but bad for the fleas, is that he's
light colored.  You can see the fleas really easily in
light fur.

:)
Wendy


--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
 
 
 And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other
 Felv baby) together:
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
 
 
 Cassandra


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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

2007-04-14 Thread elizabeth trent

Sherry, I am so sorry.  I know it hurts so much.

elizabeth


On 4/14/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these
sweet angels be added to the list.
Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her
beautiful sister Carissa.
Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough
looking but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in
love with him the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just
there Thursday and he was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the
volunteers came in,she found him gasping for breath.It was found that he
had a large mass on his trachea.
This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done
in my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
Sherry

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