RE: Iris Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I haven't been able to keep up with the list lately but want to say you and the little souls you care for are never far from my thoughts. Your love and compassion for the kitties who come into your life at the shelter is truly wonderful. To know they are so loved as they leave is such a precious gift that you give to them. I am so sorry to hear about Iris and Isis but glad they knew your love. Bless you for all you do. And I hope 2008 brings everything you could wish for. much love and big hugs, Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:28 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Iris Please add to the CLS :( Iris lost her battle to this aweful disease tonight. I was there to hold her pretty little tortie head in my hand while she fell asleep forever.She is now with her sister Isis whom I had never met cause she lost her fight before I started volunteering. I just told her she will feel so much better soon.It just breaks my heart to see these precious babies lose.I am grateful that I was a part of her life for the last 2 years.Thank you all so much for the prayers.Junior is doing so much better,he has been at Dr. Jens house for the last couple weeks.Her son has been sharing his room with him and the eyeless kitten that Jen found. The kitten is adorable.Once again thank you ALL so much Sherry _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i6 2sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Iris Please add to the CLS :(
Hi Sherry, I've been thinking about you and all the losses you guys have had over the last few weeks. I'm sorry about the little ones. Prayers going out for those still in need of healing, and of course, for your heart as well. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:27:35 PM Subject: Iris Please add to the CLS :( Iris lost her battle to this aweful disease tonight. I was there to hold her pretty little tortie head in my hand while she fell asleep forever.She is now with her sister Isis whom I had never met cause she lost her fight before I started volunteering. I just told her she will feel so much better soon.It just breaks my heart to see these precious babies lose.I am grateful that I was a part of her life for the last 2 years.Thank you all so much for the prayers.Junior is doing so much better,he has been at Dr. Jens house for the last couple weeks.Her son has been sharing his room with him and the eyeless kitten that Jen found. The kitten is adorable.Once again thank you ALL so much Sherry Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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Re: OT: barn kitten update
Great news!
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Another success! My last barn kitten- the only one still holding out,
finally crossed over- as I like to say! SHE PURRED! We've hit all the other
milestones: no longer freaking out and hissing and swatting at me when I reach
for them: now playing/grooming/acting semi-normal IN FRONT of me; eating while
I watch them; licking food off my fingers; not freaking out while enduring
forced face time- which is me putting my face on theirs and touching nose to
nose- while telling them I'm going to eat you! b/c they are so cute! etc.
There's three of them and I had one hold out. The little black boy caved days
ago and he caved suddenly and all at once and very hard. Suddenly, he was my
love-bug-- all rolling around like a woolly worm getting his belly and butt
scratched and putting his butt up in the air
(instead of curling up in a ball!) and stretching out and kneading and going
limp and talking to me (begging for food) and napping on me and falling asleep
while I stared at him, etc., etc., etc. And then, finally, the purring! I
knew I had him beat when I heard that. Little suckers! But I had a hold-out
on the grey female. She was the only one still curling like a ball and not
going limp and she refused to purr! I was so frustrated. I don't have as much
time to devote to the barn kittens now b/c of my sick 6 mo kitten and the other
demanding little idiots! The good thing is that they grey one has already been
adopted by a wonderful man who adopted from us a kitten about 2 months ago and
he's totally on board with me continuing to socialize her and get her ready.
So I talked to him tonight about how if he has more time then me right now, it
might be best for him to go ahead and take her and he does the work on her-
subject to my instructions. He's so
wonderful, he will pretty much do anything I recommend. So I told him she was
my one hold out and I can't get a purr out of her. Darn. Wouldn't you know I
go get her after I get off the phone with him and I just really gave it to
her-- scratching galore, and then it came-- the purr I'd been waiting for.
Once it started, everything else fell into place. Now she's all stretched out
on my lap while I type this email-- STILL PURRING-- all dopey eyed and cozy and
just in heaven. She finally stretched out COMPLETELY too and kneaded for the
first time. Now she's even looking right at me and then letting her eyes close
and fall asleep. She's crossed over! Now I have to call her new daddy back
tomorrow and tell him no worries! Whoo hoo! Ironically, these unsocialized
barn kittens have been my easiest foster-cat challenge yet!
caroline
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Re: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up
Dr. Maier is right..think how you would want to be treated yourself. You are doing great by the way. Take care. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Okay, the results are not all in, but I finally talked to the Vet about the blood tests from the sick kitten I took in- which he suspect FIP in. The cat was NEGATIVE for Felv (so that's the second time he's tested neg.- first at approx. 2 mths old, now at 6 mths). He NEGATIVE for FIV (which he had not yet been tested for ever). The vet also says that so far, it looks like it's not FIP and he talked about how there is no conclusive test, etc., so for now, he has to go by the presence of antibodies- which he says are usually higher if the cat has dry FIP and then even higher if it's wet FIP. He says the antibodies are just not high enough to for it to be FIP- either the dry or wet form. So he remains concerned tho that it's a an infectious (i.e., contagious) disease. What he is waiting on now is the toxoplasmosis test b/c now he is suspecting that. He said the results of that test will be in tomorrow. He also said the blood is showing high globulin levels and high white blood cells- both of which indicate some kind of an infection, but he just doesn't know what kind yet. I do have a phone consultation appointment tomorrow at 5:00 with the holistic vet (Marylyn-- Dr. Maier) who treated Monkee at the end of his life and whom Monkee loved- at a time when he was utterly miserable and fed up with vets! We are consulting on this kitten and then also to discuss general care of fosters and things I can do holistically to help them rehab faster. I may end up taking Yoda to her anyway b/c of the diarrhea that I can't get traditional vets to address. Hopefully, I will have the blood tests results on my sick kitten emailed to me before then, so I can forward them to her for her review and second opinion. I feel better because I am finally getting some freaking vets lined up so that I can finally take care of these fosters without always feeling like I'm supposed to do so without ever having veterinary access unless a cat is pretty much dying in my arms. Monkee died in my arms despite all the things we did to save him and there is NO WAY I'm going to allow another cat to die in my arms- especially these fosters who seem to have totally treatable (possibly preventable) things going on with them! Urg. So we continue to forge ahead. Poor kitty feels so much better and I'm worried about continuing to give him fluids. Dr. Maier said in an email that if he is doing that much better and has had 3 treatments of subcu fluids, it's probably not necessary to do them today. But when I talked to the conventional vet that saw the cat on Monday, he said to continue them b/c extra fluids are extra fluids, it can't really hurt him (I beg to differ- it's very traumatic b/c it's just me and him in a contest of wills and strength and it's pretty horrible- he gets that huge needle out everytime and I have to re-stick him-- which is hell for me and him), and without really seeing the cat, he can't tell me to discontinue fluids. Well, my mom and I have discussed it and I'm doing them tonight. It's too much on him and me. He's feeling too good now so that he really fights the fluid giving. I always recall that Dr. Maier- in all her holistic wisdom- said (when I first took Monkee to her), that you don't want the treatment to be worse than the disease. I think that solves my dilemma for now. Caroline -- The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. Get it now!
RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up
Well, I think I just never saw him drink b/c I had him only from last sat. night until monday in my bedroom with my other cats (I have two large rooms connected- so they have tons of space. All but Possum sleep in the condo- which is set up by the front window- at night). But we did keep him in a separate crate in the room until the vet visit last monday, and that vet said to isolate him, so poor kitty and his crate went to the basement. I felt horrible, but we are just currently running out of rooms. So, he was stuck down there all alone and since he wasn't with me in my room, I wasn't able to see what he does. He spent most of his time down there crying crying crying (broke my heart) and knocking over his coop cup of water and food in his desperate attempts to reach thru the crate. It was horrible, I know, but our basement doesn't have a real door- it's a folding levelor blind-like door and every cat, save for the teeny barn kittens, have made short shrift of it! Anyway, per Dr. Maier's advice- after she told me her analysis of the blood tests (she doesn't think it's FIP (she said severe dehydration will cause high protein and high globulin in the blood- also, he didn't test pos. for any corona virus, so I don't see how the conventional vet can say FIP???). She thinks it's just very very very bad malnourishment/dehydration, infection from chronic URIs setting in, stress, etc). So, I moved him into my room on Sat., per her okay and recc that it would be better for him. Since he and Possum are both special needs, slow (which incidentally makes them really good kitties b/c they don't have the energy to be bad!), both recovering from what is hopefully only malnourishment, etc., they both stay out in the room/sleep with me on the bed at night (they are both such good little boys)! So I finally saw him drink water and it's all at once, wonderful and hilarious! He drinks voraciously (as voraciously as he eats his wet food- well, he's into the crunchies too, but the wet food eating it funnier b/c he smacks him lips and gobbles and just makes all these snarfling noises while eating- and gets it all over his nose- like he never tasted anything so good!). So the water drinking is similar-- very loud, very intense, and when he looks up, he has it all over his chin and nose! So, I am no longer concerned about water drinking. I add a lot of water to his wet food too and he doesn't seem to mind. He's not dehydrated anymore either. He still looks like an old man cat to me tho- which is sad because he's only 6 months. Sigh. He looks like what my 19 yo Rambo looked like his last year of life. He really bounced back after just coming to my house, getting fluids and the shot of penicillin, but he seems to have leveled off now. We'll see...I really hope it's not dry FIP. I just can't go through that. Tackling this malnourishment and weakened state has been hard enough... caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-upDate: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:38:57 -0600 Try dripping water or a water fountain. Ebony loved to drink from the faucet. I like the fountain better because the water can be filtered. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up I have never seen him drink water, so I am not sure. But he's been urinating a lot- of course that could be from the fluids. He was dehydrated on Monday, but he bounced back so much after the shot of Penicillin and one bought of subcu fluids- it was really remarkable. And of course, the vet isn't able to see that. Since I have never seen him drink water, I have been adding water and KMR to his wet food- just to make sure to get some extra in. He eats almost all of his food up, so he's certainly getting moisture that way.caroline Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:47:47 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up That is great news, that everything is negative. Is he drinking normally? Is he dehydrated? If he is not dehydratedI would not see any need for fluids (but I'm not a vet, this is not to be construed as veterinary advice, yadda yadda) Kelley On Dec 27, 2007 8:39 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, the results are not all in, but I finally talked to the Vet about the blood tests from the sick kitten I took in- which he suspect FIP in. The cat was NEGATIVE for Felv (so that's the
Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up
What did Dr. Maier say about supplements? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Well, I think I just never saw him drink b/c I had him only from last sat. night until monday in my bedroom with my other cats (I have two large rooms connected- so they have tons of space. All but Possum sleep in the condo- which is set up by the front window- at night). But we did keep him in a separate crate in the room until the vet visit last monday, and that vet said to isolate him, so poor kitty and his crate went to the basement. I felt horrible, but we are just currently running out of rooms. So, he was stuck down there all alone and since he wasn't with me in my room, I wasn't able to see what he does. He spent most of his time down there crying crying crying (broke my heart) and knocking over his coop cup of water and food in his desperate attempts to reach thru the crate. It was horrible, I know, but our basement doesn't have a real door- it's a folding levelor blind-like door and every cat, save for the teeny barn kittens, have made short shrift of it! Anyway, per Dr. Maier's advice- after she told me her analysis of the blood tests (she doesn't think it's FIP (she said severe dehydration will cause high protein and high globulin in the blood- also, he didn't test pos. for any corona virus, so I don't see how the conventional vet can say FIP???). She thinks it's just very very very bad malnourishment/dehydration, infection from chronic URIs setting in, stress, etc). So, I moved him into my room on Sat., per her okay and recc that it would be better for him. Since he and Possum are both special needs, slow (which incidentally makes them really good kitties b/c they don't have the energy to be bad!), both recovering from what is hopefully only malnourishment, etc., they both stay out in the room/sleep with me on the bed at night (they are both such good little boys)! So I finally saw him drink water and it's all at once, wonderful and hilarious! He drinks voraciously (as voraciously as he eats his wet food- well, he's into the crunchies too, but the wet food eating it funnier b/c he smacks him lips and gobbles and just makes all these snarfling noises while eating- and gets it all over his nose- like he never tasted anything so good!). So the water drinking is similar-- very loud, very intense, and when he looks up, he has it all over his chin and nose! So, I am no longer concerned about water drinking. I add a lot of water to his wet food too and he doesn't seem to mind. He's not dehydrated anymore either. He still looks like an old man cat to me tho- which is sad because he's only 6 months. Sigh. He looks like what my 19 yo Rambo looked like his last year of life. He really bounced back after just coming to my house, getting fluids and the shot of penicillin, but he seems to have leveled off now. We'll see...I really hope it's not dry FIP. I just can't go through that. Tackling this malnourishment and weakened state has been hard enough... caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:38:57 -0600 Try dripping water or a water fountain. Ebony loved to drink from the faucet. I like the fountain better because the water can be filtered. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up I have never seen him drink water, so I am not sure. But he's been urinating a lot- of course that could be from the fluids. He was dehydrated on Monday, but he bounced back so much after the shot of Penicillin and one bought of subcu fluids- it was really remarkable. And of course, the vet isn't able to see that. Since I have never seen him drink water, I have been adding
Re: OT - BCS?
My vet uses 1-5 for cats. He rated my older cat at a 3. She had lost weight. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: OT - BCS? Hi all, My previous vet used a body condition scale (BCS) of 1-9, however I have seen BCS used of 1-5. I am trying to find out exactly what a 2.5/5 on the BCS of 1-5 indicates and I've not had much luck looking on the Internet - it seems to be more used for farm animals, but for whatever reason this clinic was using it for cats. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart
