Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that.  My husband keeps telling me that 
this is what cats do as well.  I probably drive the little guy nuts by checking 
him out every half hour.  He's different in all ways from our Lennie and our 
former Chuck.  They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and 
petting.  Not this guy.  If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from 
you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances.  
He's very much aloof.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time.   We are 
supposed to sleep over 30%.  He may just be doing what cats do.  Please don't 
read too much into things.  It will rob you of the pleasure of his company.  I 
learned the hard way.

  On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote:


Thanks Sally.  From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation sounds 
more chronic than acute.  He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he eats and 
occasionally sneezes.  It seems to be more of a nuisance than a problem.  I've 
told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it.

Boo has had 2 really good days.  His breathing is pretty much normal now 
and he went out for fresh air twice today.  He was being all sweet and purring 
tonight.  I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him.  We get our exercise by 
running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is.  He's 
very tired though and sleeps most of the time.  We don't expect a lot from him 
but he seems pretty content.

Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Sally Davis
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Hi Lynne

  It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : 

  Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) causes 
acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline herpesvirus 
infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide.

  The following website gives more information
  http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/

  They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus

  http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml


  Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye 
infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. 
Junior does not get these.

  How is BooBoo doing?

  Sally

  On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you referring 
to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold sores.  I 
just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge from his 
eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any other 
animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes.  We've started him back on his 
Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled.  My vet didn't 
bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are dealing with 
here.  Like I've said, I really like this vet on a personal level but he is so 
determined that Boo is going to die, TODAY, that in my opinion he isn't being 
conscientious enough.  Every time we talk to him or see him, he says the same 
thing, you understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't really seem 
to want to save him.  Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our building at 
work asked me about him yesterday and told me to offer as much paliative care 
as is reasonable before euthanizing him.  This doc is so funny.  He took time 
off work to go and assist in the spaying of his dog along with his vet. 

I don't know if you have access to Recovery food but it is the only 
thing our BooBoo will eat and he eats a good amount of it.  The main ingredient 
is chicken liver and fish oil.  I tried giving him regular chicken liver but he 
turned his nose up at it.  It's 2 bucks a can.  I think it's a good deal though 
because a little seems to fill him up.  Our other pig cat will eat anything you 
put in front of him, except this, fortunately.

Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Sally Davis
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  This sounds like what I am going through with Junior. He is now off 
antibiotics and getting chlorpheneramine to relieve congestion. He is about the 
same after a month. I think his is herpes as well. He also has the eye crud 
typical of herpes. He has been receiving L Lysine for over a year. I can only 
assume it slows the herpes virus down.

  A little over a month ago I decided to change his canned catfood. He 
is now 

Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Marylyn
Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and  
privilege to be earnedand not by waking him up all the tmie.   
How would you like it if someone insisted on waking you up in the  
middle of a dream where you were hunting mice?


On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote:

Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that.  My husband keeps  
telling me that this is what cats do as well.  I probably drive the  
little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour.  He's different  
in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck.  They were very  
dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting.  Not this  
guy.  If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from you,,  
collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty  
glances.  He's very much aloof.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time.
We are supposed to sleep over 30%.  He may just be doing what cats  
do.  Please don't read too much into things.  It will rob you of the  
pleasure of his company.  I learned the hard way.

On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote:

Thanks Sally.  From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation  
sounds more chronic than acute.  He has a bit of runny nose, snorts  
when he eats and occasionally sneezes.  It seems to be more of a  
nuisance than a problem.  I've told the vet about it but he kind of  
dismissed it.


Boo has had 2 really good days.  His breathing is pretty much  
normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today.  He was being  
all sweet and purring tonight.  I'm afraid Bob and I are really  
spoiling him.  We get our exercise by running upstairs every half  
hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is.  He's very tired  
though and sleeps most of the time.  We don't expect a lot from him  
but he seems pretty content.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sally Davis
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Hi Lynne

It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is :
Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1)  
causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or  
feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild  
cats worldwide.


The following website gives more information
http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/

They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline  
calicivirus


http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml

Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye  
infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes  
mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these.


How is BooBoo doing?

Sally

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you  
referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that  
causes cold sores.  I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have  
a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be  
alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of  
gunk in his eyes.  We've started him back on his Doxycycline  
because the breathing issue seems to have settled.  My vet didn't  
bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are  
dealing with here.  Like I've said, I really like this vet on a  
personal level but he is so determined that Boo is going to die,  
TODAY, that in my opinion he isn't being conscientious enough.   
Every time we talk to him or see him, he says the same thing, you  
understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't really seem  
to want to save him.  Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our  
building at work asked me about him yesterday and told me to offer  
as much paliative care as is reasonable before euthanizing him.   
This doc is so funny.  He took time off work to go and assist in  
the spaying of his dog along with his vet.


I don't know if you have access to Recovery food but it is the only  
thing our BooBoo will eat and he eats a good amount of it.  The  
main ingredient is chicken liver and fish oil.  I tried giving him  
regular chicken liver but he turned his nose up at it.  It's 2  
bucks a can.  I think it's a good deal though because a little  
seems to fill him up.  Our other pig cat will eat anything you put  
in front of him, except this, fortunately.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sally Davis
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

This sounds like what I am going through with Junior. He is now off  
antibiotics and getting chlorpheneramine to relieve congestion. He  
is about the same after a month. I think his is herpes as well. He  
also has the eye crud typical of herpes. He has been receiving L  
Lysine for over a 

Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
Absolutely Marilynn.  I know I shouldn't be looking for abnormalities but 
damn it his breathing seems to be labored again today.  He was purring 
excessively loud and started to breath through his mouth.  I managed to get his 
Lasix down him which causes hysteria in him but after that he ate all his food 
and is cleaning himself now, ears perked up and eyes wide open.  He looks 
wonderful today and seems to be in a better mood than normal but I have a 
feeling before the day is over he'll be heading to the vet to have more fluid 
removed from his lungs.  This is so frustrating.  I don't think he's getting a 
high enough doseage of Lasix.  There has to be something else to help him 
overcome this fluid accumulation.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:59 AM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and privilege to be 
earnedand not by waking him up all the tmie.  How would you like it if 
someone insisted on waking you up in the middle of a dream where you were 
hunting mice?


  On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote:


Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that.  My husband keeps telling me 
that this is what cats do as well.  I probably drive the little guy nuts by 
checking him out every half hour.  He's different in all ways from our Lennie 
and our former Chuck.  They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding 
and petting.  Not this guy.  If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away 
from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances. 
 He's very much aloof.

Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Marylyn
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time.   We are 
supposed to sleep over 30%.  He may just be doing what cats do.  Please don't 
read too much into things.  It will rob you of the pleasure of his company.  I 
learned the hard way.

  On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote:


Thanks Sally.  From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation 
sounds more chronic than acute.  He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he 
eats and occasionally sneezes.  It seems to be more of a nuisance than a 
problem.  I've told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it.

Boo has had 2 really good days.  His breathing is pretty much normal 
now and he went out for fresh air twice today.  He was being all sweet and 
purring tonight.  I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him.  We get our 
exercise by running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy 
he is.  He's very tired though and sleeps most of the time.  We don't expect a 
lot from him but he seems pretty content.

Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Sally Davis
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Hi Lynne

  It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : 

  Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) 
causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline 
herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide.

  The following website gives more information
  http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/

  They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus

  http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml


  Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye 
infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. 
Junior does not get these.

  How is BooBoo doing?

  Sally

  On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you 
referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold 
sores.  I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge 
from his eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any 
other animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes.  We've started him back on 
his Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled.  My vet 
didn't bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are 
dealing with here.  Like I've said, I really like this vet on a personal level 
but he is so determined that Boo is going to die, TODAY, that in my opinion he 
isn't being conscientious enough.  Every time we talk to him or see him, he 
says the same thing, you understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't 
really seem to want to save him.  Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our 
building at work asked me about him 

karen

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
Sorry to do this on the group but I couldn't for some reason send it to Karen's 
personal email.

Karen I'll try calling later.  You weren't home when I did call.  BooBoo has 
settled down for now and is breathing fairly normally.  He has an appointment 
tomorrow to have more fluid removed if necessary.  

Lynne


Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Marylyn
Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before  
you pill him.  Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble  
with the status quo.  Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain  
and what you have to lose.
It is an awful situation.  Been there.  Done that.  With various  
critters and various physical problems.  I would never give up the  
total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their  
teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the  
other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much.   
Here is where I get too emotional.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:

Absolutely Marilynn.  I know I shouldn't be looking for  
abnormalities but damn it his breathing seems to be labored again  
today.  He was purring excessively loud and started to breath  
through his mouth.  I managed to get his Lasix down him which causes  
hysteria in him but after that he ate all his food and is cleaning  
himself now, ears perked up and eyes wide open.  He looks wonderful  
today and seems to be in a better mood than normal but I have a  
feeling before the day is over he'll be heading to the vet to have  
more fluid removed from his lungs.  This is so frustrating.  I don't  
think he's getting a high enough doseage of Lasix.  There has to be  
something else to help him overcome this fluid accumulation.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: coughing

Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and  
privilege to be earnedand not by waking him up all the  
tmie.  How would you like it if someone insisted on waking you up in  
the middle of a dream where you were hunting mice?


On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote:

Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that.  My husband keeps  
telling me that this is what cats do as well.  I probably drive the  
little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour.  He's  
different in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck.  They  
were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting.   
Not this guy.  If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away  
from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot  
nasty glances.  He's very much aloof.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time.
We are supposed to sleep over 30%.  He may just be doing what cats  
do.  Please don't read too much into things.  It will rob you of  
the pleasure of his company.  I learned the hard way.

On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote:

Thanks Sally.  From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation  
sounds more chronic than acute.  He has a bit of runny nose,  
snorts when he eats and occasionally sneezes.  It seems to be more  
of a nuisance than a problem.  I've told the vet about it but he  
kind of dismissed it.


Boo has had 2 really good days.  His breathing is pretty much  
normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today.  He was  
being all sweet and purring tonight.  I'm afraid Bob and I are  
really spoiling him.  We get our exercise by running upstairs  
every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is.  He's  
very tired though and sleeps most of the time.  We don't expect a  
lot from him but he seems pretty content.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sally Davis
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Hi Lynne

It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is :
Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1)  
causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or  
feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild  
cats worldwide.


The following website gives more information
http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/

They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline  
calicivirus


http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml

Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the  
eye infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes  
mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these.


How is BooBoo doing?

Sally

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you  
referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that  
causes cold sores.  I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have  
a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be  
alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of  
gunk in his eyes.  We've started him back on his Doxycycline  
because the breathing issue seems to have settled.  My vet didn't  
bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are  

Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo 
alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and 
even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring.  I told Bob what you said 
about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. 
 He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep.  He is 
breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't 
see us today.  There were two emergencies apparently.  Big friggin deal.  If a 
vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up.  
I am searching for another vet.  I have a lead on a good one.  This guy told 
Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it.  
Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read 
up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions.  He 
obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's 
best interest at heart.  We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him 
dead yet.  I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable 
cold weather.  I'll give it a shot.  I wish cats liked lavender because I have 
a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you 
pill him.  Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status 
quo.  Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose.
  It is an awful situation.  Been there.  Done that.  With various critters and 
various physical problems.  I would never give up the total pleasure of their 
company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration 
and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me 
so much.  Here is where I get too emotional.  

  On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:






Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Marylyn
Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are  
appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them.  I got  
mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and  
her training.  Rescue Remedy is available most places.  However, an  
angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the  
catniptry it and see how he likes it.  I keep 3 pas (goat  
feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie.  They  
are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself.  I can't  
say they look great.then I can't say I care.


There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or  
Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet.


I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill.  It was  
heartbreaking.  Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and  
help him calm down.  How would you like someone 100 times bigger than  
you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down  
your throat?  Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes  
of panic?


You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too.  It is very  
calming.  It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me.


Don't give it up.  Enjoy the time you have.  It doesn't matter how  
long or how short.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote:

We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left  
BooBoo alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and lay  
down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began  
purring.  I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they  
need so we've determined not to bug him so much.  He did pee and poo  
while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep.  He is breathing  
better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they  
couldn't see us today.  There were two emergencies apparently.  Big  
friggin deal.  If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one  
sick cat in a day, I give up.  I am searching for another vet.  I  
have a lead on a good one.  This guy told Bob he would analyse the  
fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it.  Like I've said,  
everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on  
the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions.  He  
obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't  
have Boo's best interest at heart.  We will persevere because  
neither Boo or we want him dead yet.  I actually have some catnip in  
the garden despite this miserable cold weather.  I'll give it a  
shot.  I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and  
it is supposed to be calming for people.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes  
before you pill him.  Check with a holistic vet if you are having  
trouble with the status quo.  Basically, ask yourself what you have  
to gain and what you have to lose.
It is an awful situation.  Been there.  Done that.  With various  
critters and various physical problems.  I would never give up the  
total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their  
teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the  
other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much.   
Here is where I get too emotional.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:










Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy.  We managed to get several 
catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it.  We had him out in the 
patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in.  I couldn't handle the cold 
any longer.  He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their 
nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he 
just stared and stared at him.  Then he did his rip away at the bottom stair 
and is upstairs eating again.  He loves life I think and has no intention of 
leaving.  I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by putting it in a piece of 
salmon.  Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it.  
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are 
appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them.  I got mine from 
http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training.  Rescue 
Remedy is available most places.  However, an angel apparently sat on your 
shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it.  I 
keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. 
 They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself.  I can't say 
they look great.then I can't say I care.  


  There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. 
Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet.


  I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill.  It was heartbreaking.  
Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down.  How 
would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open 
your mouth and forcing something down your throat?  Especially if that person 
was giving off all the vibes of panic?  


  You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too.  It is very 
calming.  It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me.  


  Don't give it up.  Enjoy the time you have.  It doesn't matter how long or 
how short.
  On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote:


We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo 
alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and 
even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring.  I told Bob what you said 
about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. 
 He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep.  He is 
breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't 
see us today.  There were two emergencies apparently.  Big friggin deal.  If a 
vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up.  
I am searching for another vet.  I have a lead on a good one.  This guy told 
Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it.  
Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read 
up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions.  He 
obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's 
best interest at heart.  We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him 
dead yet.  I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable 
cold weather.  I'll give it a shot.  I wish cats liked lavender because I have 
a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people.

Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Marylyn
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you 
pill him.  Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status 
quo.  Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose.
  It is an awful situation.  Been there.  Done that.  With various critters 
and various physical problems.  I would never give up the total pleasure of 
their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the 
frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me 
and gave me so much.  Here is where I get too emotional.  

  On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:

 








Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Marylyn
Good job.  Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them days  
and weeks after she left this world.  Cats are very sneaky.  I suspect  
that hiding the pill or coating it will make it better.  I've tasted  
various meds for mine what were supposed to be neutral.  They were  
awful.  Frankly, I can't remember wha Lasix tastes like.  It sounds  
like the cat nip worked and it may be your answer.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote:

I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy.  We managed to get  
several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it.  We  
had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come  
in.  I couldn't handle the cold any longer.  He and Lennie sat only  
a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a  
sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he just  
stared and stared at him.  Then he did his rip away at the bottom  
stair and is upstairs eating again.  He loves life I think and has  
no intention of leaving.  I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by  
putting it in a piece of salmon.  Since he was so hungry he didn't  
notice it.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are  
appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them.  I got  
mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and  
her training.  Rescue Remedy is available most places.  However, an  
angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the  
catniptry it and see how he likes it.  I keep 3 pas (goat  
feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie.  They  
are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself.  I can't  
say they look great.then I can't say I care.


There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or  
Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet.


I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill.  It was  
heartbreaking.  Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down  
and help him calm down.  How would you like someone 100 times bigger  
than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing  
something down your throat?  Especially if that person was giving  
off all the vibes of panic?


You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too.  It is  
very calming.  It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me.


Don't give it up.  Enjoy the time you have.  It doesn't matter how  
long or how short.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote:

We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly  
left BooBoo alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and  
lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began  
purring.  I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they  
need so we've determined not to bug him so much.  He did pee and  
poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep.  He is  
breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because  
they couldn't see us today.  There were two emergencies  
apparently.  Big friggin deal.  If a vets office can't handle two  
emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up.  I am searching  
for another vet.  I have a lead on a good one.  This guy told Bob  
he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid  
of it.  Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has  
been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told  
him my suggestions.  He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing  
battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart.  We will  
persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet.  I actually  
have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold  
weather.  I'll give it a shot.  I wish cats liked lavender because  
I have a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes  
before you pill him.  Check with a holistic vet if you are having  
trouble with the status quo.  Basically, ask yourself what you have  
to gain and what you have to lose.
It is an awful situation.  Been there.  Done that.  With various  
critters and various physical problems.  I would never give up the  
total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their  
teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the  
other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much.   
Here is where I get too emotional.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:













Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Lynne
Marylyn, when we feed BooBoo it's necessary for at least one of us, more often 
both of us to sit on either side of him and disgusting as it sounds, push his 
food by finger into the centre.  With his little flat face it's hard for him to 
to eat anything that is spread out.  That's when he starts his snorting.  We 
watch that piece of food with the drug in it until we see him eat it and go on 
to the next piece.  I can't believe some of the stupid things we do for him.  I 
did taste the liquid Doxy that is supposed to be grilled chicken flavored.  It 
isn't bad but he hates it.  I'd rather do the pill.  I have never had a problem 
with our other cat.  He's always been a big boy so I would just sit him on my 
lap and do the job.  He doesn't fight like Boo does.  We're trying to keep his 
life as stress free as possible.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Good job.  Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them days and 
weeks after she left this world.  Cats are very sneaky.  I suspect that hiding 
the pill or coating it will make it better.  I've tasted various meds for mine 
what were supposed to be neutral.  They were awful.  Frankly, I can't remember 
wha Lasix tastes like.  It sounds like the cat nip worked and it may be your 
answer.  

  On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote:


I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy.  We managed to get 
several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it.  We had him 
out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in.  I couldn't 
handle the cold any longer.  He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each 
other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I 
put Len on my lap he just stared and stared at him.  Then he did his rip away 
at the bottom stair and is upstairs eating again.  He loves life I think and 
has no intention of leaving.  I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by 
putting it in a piece of salmon.  Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it. 
Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Marylyn
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: coughing


  Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are 
appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them.  I got mine from 
http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training.  Rescue 
Remedy is available most places.  However, an angel apparently sat on your 
shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it.  I 
keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. 
 They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself.  I can't say 
they look great.then I can't say I care.  


  There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. 
Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet.


  I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill.  It was 
heartbreaking.  Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him 
calm down.  How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you 
up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat?  Especially 
if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic?  


  You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too.  It is very 
calming.  It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me.  


  Don't give it up.  Enjoy the time you have.  It doesn't matter how long 
or how short.
  On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote:


We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left 
BooBoo alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him 
and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring.  I told Bob what you 
said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so 
much.  He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep.  
He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they 
couldn't see us today.  There were two emergencies apparently.  Big friggin 
deal.  If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, 
I give up.  I am searching for another vet.  I have a lead on a good one.  This 
guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid 
of it.  Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after 
I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions.  
He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's 
best interest at heart.  We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him 
dead yet.  I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable 
cold weather.  I'll give it a shot.  I wish cats liked lavender because I have 
a lot of that and it is supposed 

Re: coughing

2008-02-23 Thread Marylyn
I didn't realize he was a flat-faced cat.  New thought.  There are  
little bowls chefs use for various ingredients before they mix and  
cook.  I am struggling to find a name.  They are shallow but the sides  
slope gently.  They are really neat for cats and might help keep the  
food from spreading.  It doesn't sound gross either.  I'll work on the  
name but they aren't that difficult to find and, like I said, keep the  
food from spreading.  Consider raising the bowl.  Dixie has a little  
table that raises her bowl maybe 4 inches.  She really doesn't need it  
but I started raising bowls when Kitty started having reflux problems  
due to pancreas cancer.  It really helped her so all my inside  
critters have raised food bowls.  Kitty could hide pills.  I could put  
them so far back in her throat, watch her swallow several times, then  
find the pill on the floor in a few minutes.  They are amazing.  And  
totally worth all we do in their behalf.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Lynne wrote:

Marylyn, when we feed BooBoo it's necessary for at least one of us,  
more often both of us to sit on either side of him and disgusting as  
it sounds, push his food by finger into the centre.  With his little  
flat face it's hard for him to to eat anything that is spread out.   
That's when he starts his snorting.  We watch that piece of food  
with the drug in it until we see him eat it and go on to the next  
piece.  I can't believe some of the stupid things we do for him.  I  
did taste the liquid Doxy that is supposed to be grilled chicken  
flavored.  It isn't bad but he hates it.  I'd rather do the pill.  I  
have never had a problem with our other cat.  He's always been a big  
boy so I would just sit him on my lap and do the job.  He doesn't  
fight like Boo does.  We're trying to keep his life as stress free  
as possible.


Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Good job.  Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them  
days and weeks after she left this world.  Cats are very sneaky.  I  
suspect that hiding the pill or coating it will make it better.   
I've tasted various meds for mine what were supposed to be neutral.   
They were awful.  Frankly, I can't remember wha Lasix tastes like.   
It sounds like the cat nip worked and it may be your answer.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote:

I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy.  We managed to  
get several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over  
it.  We had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want  
to come in.  I couldn't handle the cold any longer.  He and Lennie  
sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo  
who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he  
just stared and stared at him.  Then he did his rip away at the  
bottom stair and is upstairs eating again.  He loves life I think  
and has no intention of leaving.  I gave him his last dose of Lasix  
today by putting it in a piece of salmon.  Since he was so hungry  
he didn't notice it.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: coughing

Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are  
appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them.  I got  
mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and  
her training.  Rescue Remedy is available most places.  However, an  
angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the  
catniptry it and see how he likes it.  I keep 3 pas (goat  
feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie.   
They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself.  I  
can't say they look great.then I can't say I care.


There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/ 
or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet.


I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill.  It was  
heartbreaking.  Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down  
and help him calm down.  How would you like someone 100 times  
bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing  
something down your throat?  Especially if that person was giving  
off all the vibes of panic?


You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too.  It is  
very calming.  It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me.


Don't give it up.  Enjoy the time you have.  It doesn't matter how  
long or how short.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote:

We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly  
left BooBoo alone sleeping.  When we got home I went upstairs and  
lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began  
purring.  I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they  
need so we've determined not to bug him so much.  He did pee and  
poo while we