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Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that. My husband keeps telling me that this is what cats do as well. I probably drive the little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour. He's different in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck. They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting. Not this guy. If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances. He's very much aloof. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: coughing Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time. We are supposed to sleep over 30%. He may just be doing what cats do. Please don't read too much into things. It will rob you of the pleasure of his company. I learned the hard way. On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote: Thanks Sally. From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation sounds more chronic than acute. He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he eats and occasionally sneezes. It seems to be more of a nuisance than a problem. I've told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it. Boo has had 2 really good days. His breathing is pretty much normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today. He was being all sweet and purring tonight. I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him. We get our exercise by running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is. He's very tired though and sleeps most of the time. We don't expect a lot from him but he seems pretty content. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: coughing Hi Lynne It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide. The following website gives more information http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/ They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these. How is BooBoo doing? Sally On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold sores. I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes. We've started him back on his Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled. My vet didn't bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are dealing with here. Like I've said, I really like this vet on a personal level but he is so determined that Boo is going to die, TODAY, that in my opinion he isn't being conscientious enough. Every time we talk to him or see him, he says the same thing, you understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't really seem to want to save him. Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our building at work asked me about him yesterday and told me to offer as much paliative care as is reasonable before euthanizing him. This doc is so funny. He took time off work to go and assist in the spaying of his dog along with his vet. I don't know if you have access to Recovery food but it is the only thing our BooBoo will eat and he eats a good amount of it. The main ingredient is chicken liver and fish oil. I tried giving him regular chicken liver but he turned his nose up at it. It's 2 bucks a can. I think it's a good deal though because a little seems to fill him up. Our other pig cat will eat anything you put in front of him, except this, fortunately. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: coughing This sounds like what I am going through with Junior. He is now off antibiotics and getting chlorpheneramine to relieve congestion. He is about the same after a month. I think his is herpes as well. He also has the eye crud typical of herpes. He has been receiving L Lysine for over a year. I can only assume it slows the herpes virus down. A little over a month ago I decided to change his canned catfood. He is now
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Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and privilege to be earnedand not by waking him up all the tmie. How would you like it if someone insisted on waking you up in the middle of a dream where you were hunting mice? On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote: Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that. My husband keeps telling me that this is what cats do as well. I probably drive the little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour. He's different in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck. They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting. Not this guy. If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances. He's very much aloof. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: coughing Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time. We are supposed to sleep over 30%. He may just be doing what cats do. Please don't read too much into things. It will rob you of the pleasure of his company. I learned the hard way. On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote: Thanks Sally. From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation sounds more chronic than acute. He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he eats and occasionally sneezes. It seems to be more of a nuisance than a problem. I've told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it. Boo has had 2 really good days. His breathing is pretty much normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today. He was being all sweet and purring tonight. I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him. We get our exercise by running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is. He's very tired though and sleeps most of the time. We don't expect a lot from him but he seems pretty content. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: coughing Hi Lynne It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide. The following website gives more information http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/ They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these. How is BooBoo doing? Sally On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold sores. I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes. We've started him back on his Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled. My vet didn't bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are dealing with here. Like I've said, I really like this vet on a personal level but he is so determined that Boo is going to die, TODAY, that in my opinion he isn't being conscientious enough. Every time we talk to him or see him, he says the same thing, you understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't really seem to want to save him. Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our building at work asked me about him yesterday and told me to offer as much paliative care as is reasonable before euthanizing him. This doc is so funny. He took time off work to go and assist in the spaying of his dog along with his vet. I don't know if you have access to Recovery food but it is the only thing our BooBoo will eat and he eats a good amount of it. The main ingredient is chicken liver and fish oil. I tried giving him regular chicken liver but he turned his nose up at it. It's 2 bucks a can. I think it's a good deal though because a little seems to fill him up. Our other pig cat will eat anything you put in front of him, except this, fortunately. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: coughing This sounds like what I am going through with Junior. He is now off antibiotics and getting chlorpheneramine to relieve congestion. He is about the same after a month. I think his is herpes as well. He also has the eye crud typical of herpes. He has been receiving L Lysine for over a
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Absolutely Marilynn. I know I shouldn't be looking for abnormalities but damn it his breathing seems to be labored again today. He was purring excessively loud and started to breath through his mouth. I managed to get his Lasix down him which causes hysteria in him but after that he ate all his food and is cleaning himself now, ears perked up and eyes wide open. He looks wonderful today and seems to be in a better mood than normal but I have a feeling before the day is over he'll be heading to the vet to have more fluid removed from his lungs. This is so frustrating. I don't think he's getting a high enough doseage of Lasix. There has to be something else to help him overcome this fluid accumulation. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: Re: coughing Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and privilege to be earnedand not by waking him up all the tmie. How would you like it if someone insisted on waking you up in the middle of a dream where you were hunting mice? On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote: Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that. My husband keeps telling me that this is what cats do as well. I probably drive the little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour. He's different in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck. They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting. Not this guy. If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances. He's very much aloof. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: coughing Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time. We are supposed to sleep over 30%. He may just be doing what cats do. Please don't read too much into things. It will rob you of the pleasure of his company. I learned the hard way. On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote: Thanks Sally. From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation sounds more chronic than acute. He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he eats and occasionally sneezes. It seems to be more of a nuisance than a problem. I've told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it. Boo has had 2 really good days. His breathing is pretty much normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today. He was being all sweet and purring tonight. I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him. We get our exercise by running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is. He's very tired though and sleeps most of the time. We don't expect a lot from him but he seems pretty content. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: coughing Hi Lynne It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide. The following website gives more information http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/ They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these. How is BooBoo doing? Sally On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold sores. I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes. We've started him back on his Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled. My vet didn't bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are dealing with here. Like I've said, I really like this vet on a personal level but he is so determined that Boo is going to die, TODAY, that in my opinion he isn't being conscientious enough. Every time we talk to him or see him, he says the same thing, you understand that this is the end stage and he doesn't really seem to want to save him. Gosh, even this very cynical doctor in our building at work asked me about him
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Sorry to do this on the group but I couldn't for some reason send it to Karen's personal email. Karen I'll try calling later. You weren't home when I did call. BooBoo has settled down for now and is breathing fairly normally. He has an appointment tomorrow to have more fluid removed if necessary. Lynne
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Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you pill him. Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status quo. Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose. It is an awful situation. Been there. Done that. With various critters and various physical problems. I would never give up the total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much. Here is where I get too emotional. On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote: Absolutely Marilynn. I know I shouldn't be looking for abnormalities but damn it his breathing seems to be labored again today. He was purring excessively loud and started to breath through his mouth. I managed to get his Lasix down him which causes hysteria in him but after that he ate all his food and is cleaning himself now, ears perked up and eyes wide open. He looks wonderful today and seems to be in a better mood than normal but I have a feeling before the day is over he'll be heading to the vet to have more fluid removed from his lungs. This is so frustrating. I don't think he's getting a high enough doseage of Lasix. There has to be something else to help him overcome this fluid accumulation. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: Re: coughing Perhaps he has to remind you that petting HIM is an honor and privilege to be earnedand not by waking him up all the tmie. How would you like it if someone insisted on waking you up in the middle of a dream where you were hunting mice? On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Lynne wrote: Marilyn thank you for reminding me of that. My husband keeps telling me that this is what cats do as well. I probably drive the little guy nuts by checking him out every half hour. He's different in all ways from our Lennie and our former Chuck. They were very dependant cats, wanting a lot of holding and petting. Not this guy. If you pet him too much he will get up, turn away from you,, collapse and bury his face between his paws and shoot nasty glances. He's very much aloof. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: coughing Please remember that cats normally sleep around 75% of the time. We are supposed to sleep over 30%. He may just be doing what cats do. Please don't read too much into things. It will rob you of the pleasure of his company. I learned the hard way. On Feb 22, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Lynne wrote: Thanks Sally. From what I read on those sites, BooBoo's situation sounds more chronic than acute. He has a bit of runny nose, snorts when he eats and occasionally sneezes. It seems to be more of a nuisance than a problem. I've told the vet about it but he kind of dismissed it. Boo has had 2 really good days. His breathing is pretty much normal now and he went out for fresh air twice today. He was being all sweet and purring tonight. I'm afraid Bob and I are really spoiling him. We get our exercise by running upstairs every half hour or so to tell him what a good boy he is. He's very tired though and sleeps most of the time. We don't expect a lot from him but he seems pretty content. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: coughing Hi Lynne It is one of several viruses that cause most kitty colds/flu it is : Feline rhinotracheitis virus (feline herpesvirus type 1 or FHV-1) causes acute respiratory illness known as rhinotracheitis (or feline herpesvirus infection). The virus affects domestic and wild cats worldwide. The following website gives more information http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/rhinotracheitis/ They can test for it. The other common virus is FCV feline calicivirus http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/calicivirus/index.shtml Hope this helps. I assume Junior has the 1st one because of the eye infection he had a year ago is classic symptom. The FCV causes mouth ulcers. Junior does not get these. How is BooBoo doing? Sally On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, when you refer to herpes which herpes virus are you referring to, the one that is sexually transmitted or the one that causes cold sores. I just noticed today that BooBoo seems to have a bit of a discharge from his eyes, nothing I would personally be alarmed about, kind of like any other animal that gets a bit of gunk in his eyes. We've started him back on his Doxycycline because the breathing issue seems to have settled. My vet didn't bother to culture the fluid on his lungs so who knows what we are
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We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep. He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't see us today. There were two emergencies apparently. Big friggin deal. If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up. I am searching for another vet. I have a lead on a good one. This guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it. Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions. He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart. We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet. I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold weather. I'll give it a shot. I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: coughing Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you pill him. Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status quo. Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose. It is an awful situation. Been there. Done that. With various critters and various physical problems. I would never give up the total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much. Here is where I get too emotional. On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:
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Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them. I got mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training. Rescue Remedy is available most places. However, an angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it. I keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself. I can't say they look great.then I can't say I care. There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet. I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill. It was heartbreaking. Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down. How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat? Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic? You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too. It is very calming. It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me. Don't give it up. Enjoy the time you have. It doesn't matter how long or how short. On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote: We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep. He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't see us today. There were two emergencies apparently. Big friggin deal. If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up. I am searching for another vet. I have a lead on a good one. This guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it. Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions. He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart. We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet. I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold weather. I'll give it a shot. I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: coughing Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you pill him. Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status quo. Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose. It is an awful situation. Been there. Done that. With various critters and various physical problems. I would never give up the total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much. Here is where I get too emotional. On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:
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I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy. We managed to get several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it. We had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in. I couldn't handle the cold any longer. He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he just stared and stared at him. Then he did his rip away at the bottom stair and is upstairs eating again. He loves life I think and has no intention of leaving. I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by putting it in a piece of salmon. Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: coughing Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them. I got mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training. Rescue Remedy is available most places. However, an angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it. I keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself. I can't say they look great.then I can't say I care. There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet. I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill. It was heartbreaking. Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down. How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat? Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic? You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too. It is very calming. It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me. Don't give it up. Enjoy the time you have. It doesn't matter how long or how short. On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote: We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep. He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't see us today. There were two emergencies apparently. Big friggin deal. If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up. I am searching for another vet. I have a lead on a good one. This guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it. Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions. He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart. We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet. I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold weather. I'll give it a shot. I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: coughing Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you pill him. Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status quo. Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose. It is an awful situation. Been there. Done that. With various critters and various physical problems. I would never give up the total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much. Here is where I get too emotional. On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:
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Good job. Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them days and weeks after she left this world. Cats are very sneaky. I suspect that hiding the pill or coating it will make it better. I've tasted various meds for mine what were supposed to be neutral. They were awful. Frankly, I can't remember wha Lasix tastes like. It sounds like the cat nip worked and it may be your answer. On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote: I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy. We managed to get several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it. We had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in. I couldn't handle the cold any longer. He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he just stared and stared at him. Then he did his rip away at the bottom stair and is upstairs eating again. He loves life I think and has no intention of leaving. I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by putting it in a piece of salmon. Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: coughing Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them. I got mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training. Rescue Remedy is available most places. However, an angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it. I keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself. I can't say they look great.then I can't say I care. There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet. I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill. It was heartbreaking. Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down. How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat? Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic? You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too. It is very calming. It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me. Don't give it up. Enjoy the time you have. It doesn't matter how long or how short. On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote: We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep. He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't see us today. There were two emergencies apparently. Big friggin deal. If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up. I am searching for another vet. I have a lead on a good one. This guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it. Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions. He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart. We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet. I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold weather. I'll give it a shot. I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and it is supposed to be calming for people. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: coughing Try spraying Rescue Remedy or Cat Nap around him a few minutes before you pill him. Check with a holistic vet if you are having trouble with the status quo. Basically, ask yourself what you have to gain and what you have to lose. It is an awful situation. Been there. Done that. With various critters and various physical problems. I would never give up the total pleasure of their company and the wisdom of their teachingsin spite of the frustration and pain and all the other emotions..each friend taught me and gave me so much. Here is where I get too emotional. On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Lynne wrote:
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Marylyn, when we feed BooBoo it's necessary for at least one of us, more often both of us to sit on either side of him and disgusting as it sounds, push his food by finger into the centre. With his little flat face it's hard for him to to eat anything that is spread out. That's when he starts his snorting. We watch that piece of food with the drug in it until we see him eat it and go on to the next piece. I can't believe some of the stupid things we do for him. I did taste the liquid Doxy that is supposed to be grilled chicken flavored. It isn't bad but he hates it. I'd rather do the pill. I have never had a problem with our other cat. He's always been a big boy so I would just sit him on my lap and do the job. He doesn't fight like Boo does. We're trying to keep his life as stress free as possible. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: coughing Good job. Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them days and weeks after she left this world. Cats are very sneaky. I suspect that hiding the pill or coating it will make it better. I've tasted various meds for mine what were supposed to be neutral. They were awful. Frankly, I can't remember wha Lasix tastes like. It sounds like the cat nip worked and it may be your answer. On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote: I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy. We managed to get several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it. We had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in. I couldn't handle the cold any longer. He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he just stared and stared at him. Then he did his rip away at the bottom stair and is upstairs eating again. He loves life I think and has no intention of leaving. I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by putting it in a piece of salmon. Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: coughing Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them. I got mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training. Rescue Remedy is available most places. However, an angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it. I keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself. I can't say they look great.then I can't say I care. There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet. I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill. It was heartbreaking. Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down. How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat? Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic? You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too. It is very calming. It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me. Don't give it up. Enjoy the time you have. It doesn't matter how long or how short. On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote: We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we were gone and went up on the bed to sleep. He is breathing better now. Still have the appointment tomorrow because they couldn't see us today. There were two emergencies apparently. Big friggin deal. If a vets office can't handle two emergencies and one sick cat in a day, I give up. I am searching for another vet. I have a lead on a good one. This guy told Bob he would analyse the fluid and get back to us and he just got rid of it. Like I've said, everything he has done for us so far has been after I've read up on the disease or read these posts and told him my suggestions. He obviously thinks we are fighting a losing battle here and doesn't have Boo's best interest at heart. We will persevere because neither Boo or we want him dead yet. I actually have some catnip in the garden despite this miserable cold weather. I'll give it a shot. I wish cats liked lavender because I have a lot of that and it is supposed
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I didn't realize he was a flat-faced cat. New thought. There are little bowls chefs use for various ingredients before they mix and cook. I am struggling to find a name. They are shallow but the sides slope gently. They are really neat for cats and might help keep the food from spreading. It doesn't sound gross either. I'll work on the name but they aren't that difficult to find and, like I said, keep the food from spreading. Consider raising the bowl. Dixie has a little table that raises her bowl maybe 4 inches. She really doesn't need it but I started raising bowls when Kitty started having reflux problems due to pancreas cancer. It really helped her so all my inside critters have raised food bowls. Kitty could hide pills. I could put them so far back in her throat, watch her swallow several times, then find the pill on the floor in a few minutes. They are amazing. And totally worth all we do in their behalf. On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Lynne wrote: Marylyn, when we feed BooBoo it's necessary for at least one of us, more often both of us to sit on either side of him and disgusting as it sounds, push his food by finger into the centre. With his little flat face it's hard for him to to eat anything that is spread out. That's when he starts his snorting. We watch that piece of food with the drug in it until we see him eat it and go on to the next piece. I can't believe some of the stupid things we do for him. I did taste the liquid Doxy that is supposed to be grilled chicken flavored. It isn't bad but he hates it. I'd rather do the pill. I have never had a problem with our other cat. He's always been a big boy so I would just sit him on my lap and do the job. He doesn't fight like Boo does. We're trying to keep his life as stress free as possible. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: coughing Good job. Kitty acted like she swallowed pills--I found them days and weeks after she left this world. Cats are very sneaky. I suspect that hiding the pill or coating it will make it better. I've tasted various meds for mine what were supposed to be neutral. They were awful. Frankly, I can't remember wha Lasix tastes like. It sounds like the cat nip worked and it may be your answer. On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Lynne wrote: I'll look into the Feliway and the rescue remedy. We managed to get several catnip sprigs from outside and BooBoo went nuts over it. We had him out in the patio for fresh air and he didn't want to come in. I couldn't handle the cold any longer. He and Lennie sat only a foot or so from each other enjoying their nip and Boo who is a sucky cat held his ground and when I put Len on my lap he just stared and stared at him. Then he did his rip away at the bottom stair and is upstairs eating again. He loves life I think and has no intention of leaving. I gave him his last dose of Lasix today by putting it in a piece of salmon. Since he was so hungry he didn't notice it. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: coughing Cat Nap not catnip...it is a combination of essential oils that are appropriate for cats.so many are dangerous to them. I got mine from http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ because I know the vet and her training. Rescue Remedy is available most places. However, an angel apparently sat on your shoulder and mentioned the catniptry it and see how he likes it. I keep 3 pas (goat feeder rubber pans) with various grasses and catnip for Dixie. They are big enough for her to roll around it and enjoy herself. I can't say they look great.then I can't say I care. There are others on the site who are familiar with Dr. Maiers and/ or Dr. Boswell if you can't find a holistic vet. I had a cat with cancer who was impossible to pill. It was heartbreaking. Your little buddy just needs for you to calm down and help him calm down. How would you like someone 100 times bigger than you picking you up, forcing open your mouth and forcing something down your throat? Especially if that person was giving off all the vibes of panic? You might try Feliway spray on yourself and his room too. It is very calming. It helped The Royal Princess Kitty Katt accept me. Don't give it up. Enjoy the time you have. It doesn't matter how long or how short. On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Lynne wrote: We had to go out to visit my dad today Marylyn so I reluctantly left BooBoo alone sleeping. When we got home I went upstairs and lay down with him and even though he didn't open his eyes he began purring. I told Bob what you said about the amount of sleep they need so we've determined not to bug him so much. He did pee and poo while we