Re: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?

2008-08-11 Thread Giselle de Grandis
Many thanks to Laurie, Jennifer, Marylyn  Sabrina for writing in
response to my question about healthy dry foods.

I'm now seriously considering putting Pixie on a commercially prepared
raw food diet after discovering a BARF supplier in a nearby town. (I
find the BARF moniker hilariously appropriate as a vegetarian ;P)
Their formulation for cats is strictly meats, organs and bones without
any vegetable component (which they do however include in the dog
formulation).

Marylyn, you wrote that you added organic veggies rich in iron and/or
vitamin C to Dixie's food -- could you tell me a little more about
this?

Sabrina, thanks for recommending the Yahoo raw food groups and
mentioning some brands of grain-free dry food, which I didn't even
know existed! If the raw food diet doesn't work out I'll definitely go
out of my way to find grain-free dry food for Pixie.

Thanks again everyone.

Giselle

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Re: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?

2008-08-11 Thread Marylyn
I bought organic spinach, carrots, green peas, green beans and squash  
(usually frozen but, if we were traveling, baby food) and just ground  
it up in a small Black  Decker grinder and mixed it with her Primal  
Raw or even canned foods (again, organic no grain food).  Sometimes I  
would get fresh carrots or broccoli.  It depended on what was  
available at the time and what I could manage under the  
circumstances.  I have friends who swear by Honest Kitchen's products  
for their dogs.  www.thehonestkitchen.com has a relatively new cat  
version out.  Dixie loved the veggies.  The kittens she sent me love  
pumpkin mixed in their food.  They are young and feral (they are  
indoor, cared for kittens now obviously) so we are working on diet  
issues.  It takes time.
On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Giselle de Grandis wrote:

 Many thanks to Laurie, Jennifer, Marylyn  Sabrina for writing in
 response to my question about healthy dry foods.

 I'm now seriously considering putting Pixie on a commercially prepared
 raw food diet after discovering a BARF supplier in a nearby town. (I
 find the BARF moniker hilariously appropriate as a vegetarian ;P)
 Their formulation for cats is strictly meats, organs and bones without
 any vegetable component (which they do however include in the dog
 formulation).

 Marylyn, you wrote that you added organic veggies rich in iron and/or
 vitamin C to Dixie's food -- could you tell me a little more about
 this?

 Sabrina, thanks for recommending the Yahoo raw food groups and
 mentioning some brands of grain-free dry food, which I didn't even
 know existed! If the raw food diet doesn't work out I'll definitely go
 out of my way to find grain-free dry food for Pixie.

 Thanks again everyone.

 Giselle

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[Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-11 Thread Jennifer
and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is showing signs 
of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples).  She's 
going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV.  My question is, if she tests 
negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the 
kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is pregnant 
and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too?  I feel 
so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I 
have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If she is pregnant, I can't keep 
the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no 
way to any more cats in the house, which I understand.  If I take them to a 
shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away?  I don't 
want that to happen.  I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more 
kittens??  When I take her to the
 vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
        ~ loving mama to ~
            Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
            Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
            Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)




  
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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-11 Thread Laurieskatz
This is heartbreaking. I am sorry for poor Isobel. If you can't afford to
spay, I cannot understand why you wouldn't get Ash neutered or separate
unaltered males and females. When I have rescued litters I separate the
males and females to avoid unwanted pregnancies. 

Isobel and her kittens, if pregnant, have been so unnecessarily exposed and
she, so unnecessarily pregnant. I would see if the vet will abort her
pregnancy. This will likely cause greater risk to her if she is now also
positive but, imho, better that than have the kittens born to an unknown
future since you won't be keeping them. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be
FeLV+??

and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is showing
signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). 
She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV.  My question is, if she
tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated),
will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is
pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be
too?  I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is
tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If she is
pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend
is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I
understand.  If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they
put them to sleep right away?  I don't want that to happen.  I live in
Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens??  When I take her to the
 vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
        ~ loving mama to ~
            Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
            Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
            Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)




  
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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-11 Thread Marylyn
Can you have them spay her even though she is pregnant?  Anyway you  
look at it, the kittens have no future.  Some people can do this and  
others just can't.  Neither group is right or wrong.  I guess the  
question is whether it is better to lose your life kindly and gently  
or, after you are several weeks or months old, to a shelter or a car  
or a vicious dog or..  This is something you have to settle in  
your heart.  No one can tell you what is right or wrong.  I know for  
myself and many on this list have made their decisions.  Blessings to  
you for loving and caring.

On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote:

 and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is  
 showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as  
 pointy nipples).  She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV.   
 My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't  
 being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because  
 their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV 
 +, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too?  I feel so  
 horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight  
 and I have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If she is  
 pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my  
 boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house,  
 which I understand.  If I take them to a shelter and they're  
 positive, won't they put them to sleep right away?  I don't want  
 that to happen.  I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more  
 kittens??  When I take her to the
 vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.

  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.
 ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
 Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
 Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)





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Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

2008-08-11 Thread Laurieskatz
Hi Jim, I am distraught over Jennifer's post about Isobel. I hope I was not
out of line and I hope if I wasn't, that others will comment similarly. I
won't rant here but I am so upset about her irresponsibility ~ I would even
say, even abusive (stronger than neglectful) behavior, in putting Isobel at
risk.
Laurie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:13 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

Hey all,

I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website 
(with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: 
http://www.felineleukemia.org  
I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If 
anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, 
please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, 
I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my 
out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)

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Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

2008-08-11 Thread Laurieskatz
I am sorry Jennifer and all. I thought this was a private email to Jim. This
was not meant for general publication. 
Laurie

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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

Hi Jim, I am distraught over Jennifer's post about Isobel. I hope I was not
out of line and I hope if I wasn't, that others will comment similarly. I
won't rant here but I am so upset about her irresponsibility ~ I would even
say, even abusive (stronger than neglectful) behavior, in putting Isobel at
risk.
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:13 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

Hey all,

I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website 
(with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: 
http://www.felineleukemia.org  
I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If 
anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, 
please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, 
I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my 
out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research  Support)
http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)

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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens beFeLV+??

2008-08-11 Thread Gloria Lane
I don't know the groups in Southern New Jersey (although I lived  
there many years ago) - but some group will gladly help you with  
testing and s/n.  Yes, the kittens would most likely be euthanized at  
a shelter, if FELV +.Good chance they'd be euthanized even if  
negative.
BTW, some vets will spay a pregnant cat, depending on how far along,  
some won't.  Let us know what the test results are!

Best of luck,

Gloria



On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote:

 and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is  
 showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as  
 pointy nipples).  She's going this Thursday to get tested for  
 FeLV.  My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she  
 won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+  
 because their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she  
 is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too?  I  
 feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money  
 is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If  
 she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three  
 and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in  
 the house, which I understand.  If I take them to a shelter and  
 they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away?  I don't  
 want that to happen.  I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want  
 more kittens??  When I take her to the
  vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.

  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.
 ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
 Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
 Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)





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