Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already have life. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had survived a year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as cats often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one died and then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision to have a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have meant drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got opinions from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. :L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already have life. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
The one thing worse to me is being born only to die in a shelter, having that life then taken away from you. If you are going to keep them, that's another story. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM Hi Jennifer, Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in Jersey (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY bleak future. I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there that does low cost S/N. We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they have no problem doing spay-aborts. You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number that will entitle you to a low cost S/N. If you would like I can get the information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time of year. I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people). Laura --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
It is so hard to deal with these things. Thank God they have people like you to care about them during their last while on earth. It is so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage. I don't know if they still use gas to kill in shelters or not but that was gruesome. Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or unskilled are awful. Again, bless you for being there. On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had survived a year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as cats often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one died and then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision to have a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have meant drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got opinions from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. :L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already have life. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
I volunteer with a Louisiana shelter (am a remote volunteer) and spend time there when I go down--It kills the staff to have to euthanize and they do anything they can to find situations for the tons of cats they get A shelter is a terrible environment for any cat--the noise, the confusion, the lack of space---and it kills me when people bring Fluffy's kittens in cause they just can't keep them... Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? It is so hard to deal with these things. Thank God they have people like you to care about them during their last while on earth. It is so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage. I don't know if they still use gas to kill in shelters or not but that was gruesome. Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or unskilled are awful. Again, bless you for being there. On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had survived a year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as cats often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one died and then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision to have a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have meant drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got opinions from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. :L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put the mommy's first since they already have life. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me feel. But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice. Please tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel? On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs emergency care. The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days. We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still that chance. Laura --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know. I don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do. I really want to try and find them homes. I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl
[Felvtalk] Please pray for Michelle Lerner's Patches
Dear all I just had a request for prayers from former member Michelle Lerner for her sweet Patches. Patches has FeLV, FIV, diabetes and hyperthyroidism, and has survived many crises over the years. Now she's battling to overcome another. (For those of you who don't know Michelle she was a tireless and hugely knowledgeable contributor--as can be seen in the archives--to the listserv for many years.) Please can everyone send prayers and good wishes for Patches' recovery. Thanks so much Kerry M. I know I have been out of touch. But I am writing to ask you to pray for Patches, and to send a request to the listserve on behalf asking for prayers. As you may know, Patches is now at least 7 years old (the vets think 8 or 9 or older). She has lymphoma and has been doing well on chemo. She also has diabetes and hyperthyroidism. Despite all of this, and being FeLV+ and FIV+, she was doing really great until two days ago-- fat and happy and you would never know a thing was wrong. Two days ago had what seemed to be a severe pancreatitis attack (she also had one in May 2007 when she became diabetic), and was jaundiced from what they thought was cholangeohepatitis, an infection of the liver that often accompanies pancreatitis. They did an ultrasound and thought that is what it is (internist and oncologist) since it did not look like the lymphoma was back. She has been in the hospital since Saturday night, and except for not e! ating, they thought she was doing well at first. But she would spit up everything she was syringe fed, and now is suddenly very anemic (HCT 16). They put a feeding tube in and are transfusing her. We saw her before and after the tube was inserted and she purred both times. But the vets do not think she has much chance of survival. They think the lymphoma is probably back, which can only be fought with chemo, and she can't get chemo in this condition. If it is not lymphoma, the rest of the problems she is having, combined, give her at best a 50/50 chance of survival. When they put the tube in, they did a liver aspirate, so we should not about the lymphoma tomorrow. But they really think that is what is going on. If it is, I guess we will just take her home for as long as we can keep her comfortable and give her lots of cuddling and fussing, but it would probably be for a very short time. If it is not lymphoma, I guess she would stay in the hospital and try treatment longer. ! we are not hopeful, though. Please pray for her to feel better, for it not to be lymphoma, for her to get better, and for her to be calm and and as content as possible, and to get some good time to spend at home with us. She has been so happy being the only cat (our negative Quincy is in a separate part of the house and she doesn't see him) and be doted on since the other positives died. She has really blossomed in the last year and a half, and loves cuddling and pets and catnip and cardboard boxes. I know it is miraculous and heroic of her to make it this long, but it still seems to soon to let her go. She is such a superhero, and we love her so. Please send prayers and warm thoughts. thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please pray for Michelle Lerner's Patches
May all the angels surround both of them. On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:22 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Dear all I just had a request for prayers from former member Michelle Lerner for her sweet Patches. Patches has FeLV, FIV, diabetes and hyperthyroidism, and has survived many crises over the years. Now she's battling to overcome another. (For those of you who don't know Michelle she was a tireless and hugely knowledgeable contributor--as can be seen in the archives--to the listserv for many years.) Please can everyone send prayers and good wishes for Patches' recovery. Thanks so much Kerry M. I know I have been out of touch. But I am writing to ask you to pray for Patches, and to send a request to the listserve on behalf asking for prayers. As you may know, Patches is now at least 7 years old (the vets think 8 or 9 or older). She has lymphoma and has been doing well on chemo. She also has diabetes and hyperthyroidism. Despite all of this, and being FeLV+ and FIV+, she was doing really great until two days ago-- fat and happy and you would never know a thing was wrong. Two days ago had what seemed to be a severe pancreatitis attack (she also had one in May 2007 when she became diabetic), and was jaundiced from what they thought was cholangeohepatitis, an infection of the liver that often accompanies pancreatitis. They did an ultrasound and thought that is what it is (internist and oncologist) since it did not look like the lymphoma was back. She has been in the hospital since Saturday night, and except for not e! ating, they thought she was doing well at first. But she would spit up everything she was syringe fed, and now is suddenly very anemic (HCT 16). They put a feeding tube in and are transfusing her. We saw her before and after the tube was inserted and she purred both times. But the vets do not think she has much chance of survival. They think the lymphoma is probably back, which can only be fought with chemo, and she can't get chemo in this condition. If it is not lymphoma, the rest of the problems she is having, combined, give her at best a 50/50 chance of survival. When they put the tube in, they did a liver aspirate, so we should not about the lymphoma tomorrow. But they really think that is what is going on. If it is, I guess we will just take her home for as long as we can keep her comfortable and give her lots of cuddling and fussing, but it would probably be for a very short time. If it is not lymphoma, I guess she would stay in the hospital and try treatment longer. ! we are not hopeful, though. Please pray for her to feel better, for it not to be lymphoma, for her to get better, and for her to be calm and and as content as possible, and to get some good time to spend at home with us. She has been so happy being the only cat (our negative Quincy is in a separate part of the house and she doesn't see him) and be doted on since the other positives died. She has really blossomed in the last year and a half, and loves cuddling and pets and catnip and cardboard boxes. I know it is miraculous and heroic of her to make it this long, but it still seems to soon to let her go. She is such a superhero, and we love her so. Please send prayers and warm thoughts. thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New Here
Hello! I'm new to this list. My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats. Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June. We have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with our vets. So far, Bo and Seven are in good health. I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV. Any tips from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved cats? Glad to be a part of this list! Jody (and Bo Seven) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Here
I fed Dixie Louise Primal Raw mixed with organic veggies that were high in iron and/or vitamin C. From the China scare she never had food with grains. Until a very few days before she left this world she was very healthy and happy. She saw a holistic vet frequently and a regular vet as needed..which was very rarely. The best thing you can do is love them and let them love and teach you. They are full of wisdom. Enjoy every second and do not focus on the condition. Give them the best you can in everything but realize that there are no guarantees in life. Blessings to you. On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I'm new to this list. My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats. Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June. We have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with our vets. So far, Bo and Seven are in good health. I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV. Any tips from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved cats? Glad to be a part of this list! Jody (and Bo Seven) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome to the list! I must admit, I feed pretty ordinary food. Would do better if I didn't do rescue and consequently have rescue cats. But I have 2 FELV cats that I acquired from Oklahoma, and they're over 10. I've had them for a few years, the previous owner had them for quite a few. They're not on anything special, except love and care. The vet for the previous owner had them vaccinated for FELV yearly - he thought it helped. Go figure. All my FELV cats are over 3. The problems I've had are at the age 2.5 to 3 yrs old, and never had one make it past that age. My current 'theory' is to use interferon till they get over 3 yrs. I have a friend with 1 FELV, and 1 non-FELV, and the FELV kitty made it to 3 yrs and beyond and she does keep him on interferon.. They're doing great too! Thanks for writing and for joining the list! Gloria in Arkansas At 08:31 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hello! I'm new to this list. My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats. Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June. We have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with our vets. So far, Bo and Seven are in good health. I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV. Any tips from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved cats? Glad to be a part of this list! Jody (and Bo Seven) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gloria I am going to follow your advice. My kitten is roughly 2+ years. She was highly symptomatic and recovered with the exception of mildly inflamed gums. Last week she had a relapse with some sneezing and a mild runny nose. Since we are facing that 2.5 to 3 year danger zone I thought I should begin interferon. Would you tell me what you use and how? I was told by a friend to start with human interferon. My vet never offered it as an alternative, so I am going to have to tell her what to prescribe and what dosage to give. If I did not have this list, we would never had made it past the first year. I appreciate your advice. Jane On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: Welcome to the list! I must admit, I feed pretty ordinary food. Would do better if I didn't do rescue and consequently have rescue cats. But I have 2 FELV cats that I acquired from Oklahoma, and they're over 10. I've had them for a few years, the previous owner had them for quite a few. They're not on anything special, except love and care. The vet for the previous owner had them vaccinated for FELV yearly - he thought it helped. Go figure. All my FELV cats are over 3. The problems I've had are at the age 2.5 to 3 yrs old, and never had one make it past that age. My current 'theory' is to use interferon till they get over 3 yrs. I have a friend with 1 FELV, and 1 non-FELV, and the FELV kitty made it to 3 yrs and beyond and she does keep him on interferon.. They're doing great too! Thanks for writing and for joining the list! Gloria in Arkansas At 08:31 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hello! I'm new to this list. My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats. Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June. We have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with our vets. So far, Bo and Seven are in good health. I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV. Any tips from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved cats? Glad to be a part of this list! Jody (and Bo Seven) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org