Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-13 Thread Alice hanson
Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain 
sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a point 
where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge, no matter 
how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED])

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 
 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is 
 pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??  We rescued one mom with 4 kittens. 
 All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom 
 and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died 
 excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough 
 to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put 
 the mommy's first since they already have life.  L  -Original 
 Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Laura B Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is 
 pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??  Since you are her guardian, 
 obviously it's your choice as to what to do, but I know for me, I try to do 
 what is best for the cat, and not make a decsion based on how it makes me 
 feel.  But again, it's your decsion and we can only give advice.   Please 
 tell me that you have separated Ash and Isobel?  On the chance that she 
 isn't pregnant you really need to separate them until one of them is fixed.  
Also, if you do plan on letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, 
 I would start saving some money now, because you will need to get her 
 kittens S/N before putting them out for adoption, also incase she has a 
 difficult delivery and needs emergency care.  The rescue that I work with (I 
 foster kittens when we come across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact 
 kittens. Which unfortunatly is the only way to ensure that a cat will be 
 S/N' d these days.   We're going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is 
 not pregnant, there is still that chance.   Laura  --- On Tue, 8/12/08, 
 Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens 
 be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 
 7:34 PM  I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know.  I 
 don't believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to 
 do.  I really want to try and find them homes.  I just can't imagine 
 killing life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the 
 overpopulation.   Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be 
 their voice.  ~ loving mama to ~   Morrison (born Oct. 10, 
 2000)   Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)   Ash (born 
 July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)
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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-13 Thread Laurieskatz
Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had survived a
year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as cats
often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one died and
then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision to have
a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area
because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have meant
drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got opinions
from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation. 
:L 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens
be FeLV+??

Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end their pain
sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got to a
point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow bridge,
no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them
suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue,
12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is
pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??  We rescued one mom with 4 kittens.
All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off. The mom
and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then died
excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard enough
to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort. I put
the mommy's first since they already have life.  L  -Original
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent:
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject:
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be
FeLV+??  Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as to what
to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and not
make a decsion based on how it makes me feel.  But again, it's your decsion
and we can only give advice.   Please tell me that you have separated Ash
and Isobel?  On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to
separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do plan on
letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start saving some
money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before putting them
out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs
emergency care.  The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when we come
across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which unfortunatly
is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days.   We're
going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there is still
that chance.   Laura  --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  From: Jennifer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty
is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM  I know it makes sense to spay
abort, but I don't really know.  I don't believe in abortion...and it would
be a really tough thing for me to do.  I really want to try and find them
homes.  I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible
especially with the overpopulation.   Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL
SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.  ~ loving mama to ~
Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)   Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7,
2007)   Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-13 Thread Heather
The one thing worse to me is being born only to die in a shelter, having
that life then taken away from you.

If you are going to keep them, that's another story.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know it makes sense to spay abort, but I don't really know.  I don't
 believe in abortion...and it would be a really tough thing for me to do.  I
 really want to try and find them homes.  I just can't imagine killing
 life...I know it sounds horrible especially with the overpopulation.

  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.
 ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
 Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
 Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)



 --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the
 kittens be FeLV+??
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:13 PM

 Hi Jennifer,

 Even if FeLV were not a factor in this possible pregnancy I would suggest a
 spay-abort. The kitten season has been particulary bad this summer in
 Jersey
 (and probably elsewhere) so if you can't keep them they would have a VERY
 bleak future.  I live in central Jersey and if you're not too far from Toms
 River (don't know how far south you are) you can take her to a clinic there
 that does low cost S/N.  We take all the ferals we can TNR there, and they
 have
 no problem doing spay-aborts.

 You actually have to go through ABC (Animal Birth Control) which is a group
 based in Bayville (I believe) NJ, they will give you a voucher or number
 that
 will entitle you to a low cost S/N.  If you would like I can get the
 information for you, my neighbor has it since she does TNR daily this time
 of
 year.  I help out financially when I can since I work during the day (she
 doesn't work, cept for sterilizing cat colonies for people).

 Laura

 --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be
 FeLV+??
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:47 PM

 and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is showing
 signs
 of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples).  She's
 going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV.  My question is, if she tests
 negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will
 the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is
 pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be
 too?  I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money
 is
 tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If she is
 pregnant,
 I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is
 allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I
 understand.
 If
 I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to
 sleep right away?  I don't want that to happen.  I live in Southern New
 Jersey...anyone want more kittens??  When I take her to the
  vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.

  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.
 ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
 Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
 Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)





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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-13 Thread Marylyn
It is so hard to deal with these things.  Thank God they have people  
like you to care about them during their last while on earth.  It is  
so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage.  I don't  
know if they still use gas to kill in shelters  or not but that was  
gruesome.  Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or  
unskilled are awful.  Again, bless you for being there.
On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:

 Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had  
 survived a
 year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as  
 cats
 often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one  
 died and
 then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision  
 to have
 a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area
 because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have  
 meant
 drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got  
 opinions
 from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation.
 :L

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the  
 kittens
 be FeLV+??

 Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end  
 their pain
 sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got  
 to a
 point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow  
 bridge,
 no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them
 suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:  
 Tue,
 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl  
 kitty is
 pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??  We rescued one mom with 4  
 kittens.
 All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off.  
 The mom
 and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then  
 died
 excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard  
 enough
 to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort.  
 I put
 the mommy's first since they already have life.  L  -Original
 Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B  
 Sent:
 Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
 Subject:
 Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens  
 be
 FeLV+??  Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as  
 to what
 to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and  
 not
 make a decsion based on how it makes me feel.  But again, it's your  
 decsion
 and we can only give advice.   Please tell me that you have  
 separated Ash
 and Isobel?  On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to
 separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do  
 plan on
 letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start  
 saving some
 money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before  
 putting them
 out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs
 emergency care.  The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when  
 we come
 across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which  
 unfortunatly
 is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days.
 We're
 going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there  
 is still
 that chance.   Laura  --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  From: Jennifer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl  
 kitty
 is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM  I know it makes sense to  
 spay
 abort, but I don't really know.  I don't believe in abortion...and  
 it would
 be a really tough thing for me to do.  I really want to try and  
 find them
 homes.  I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible
 especially with the overpopulation.   Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  
  LOCAL
 SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.  ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)   Isobel aka Fat Girl (born  
 Feb. 7,
 2007)   Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28,  
 2008) 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??

2008-08-13 Thread Chris
I volunteer with a Louisiana shelter (am a remote volunteer) and spend time
there when I go down--It kills the staff to have to euthanize and they do
anything they can to find situations for the tons of cats they get  A
shelter is a terrible environment for any cat--the noise, the confusion, the
lack of space---and it kills me when people bring Fluffy's kittens in
cause they just can't keep them...  

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens
be FeLV+??

It is so hard to deal with these things.  Thank God they have people  
like you to care about them during their last while on earth.  It is  
so much better to die in loving hands than in a cold cage.  I don't  
know if they still use gas to kill in shelters  or not but that was  
gruesome.  Even the injections in the hands of the uncaring or  
unskilled are awful.  Again, bless you for being there.
On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:

 Alice, we did euthanize. It was excruciating because they had  
 survived a
 year ~ though small they were healthy. They went downhill quickly as  
 cats
 often do, esp FeLV+ cats. By the slowly die off, I meant first one  
 died and
 then another and then the mama. Last night we had to make a decision  
 to have
 a kitten euthanized shortly after she was rescued from the flood area
 because she was so sick, so small and had injuries that would have  
 meant
 drilling into her bones and several surgeries to repair. We got  
 opinions
 from 3 vets and they all made the same recommendation.
 :L

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice hanson
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:57 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the  
 kittens
 be FeLV+??

 Laurie, if the kittens were in so much pain, why didn't you end  
 their pain
 sooner? I told my little kitties right from the start, if they got  
 to a
 point where they were miserable, I would help them over the rainbow  
 bridge,
 no matter how heartbreaking it would be for me. I can't let them
 suffer!!Alice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:  
 Tue,
 12 Aug 2008 20:54:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl  
 kitty is
 pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??  We rescued one mom with 4  
 kittens.
 All were FeLV+. It was heartbreaking watching them slowly die off.  
 The mom
 and 2 kittens died early on but two kittens lived to age 1 and then  
 died
 excruciating deaths. It was costly and we couldn't find homes. Hard  
 enough
 to find homes for healthy ones. My decision would be to spay/abort.  
 I put
 the mommy's first since they already have life.  L  -Original
 Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B  
 Sent:
 Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
 Subject:
 Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens  
 be
 FeLV+??  Since you are her guardian, obviously it's your choice as  
 to what
 to do, but I know for me, I try to do what is best for the cat, and  
 not
 make a decsion based on how it makes me feel.  But again, it's your  
 decsion
 and we can only give advice.   Please tell me that you have  
 separated Ash
 and Isobel?  On the chance that she isn't pregnant you really need to
 separate them until one of them is fixed. Also, if you do  
 plan on
 letting her have the kittens if she is pregnant, I would start  
 saving some
 money now, because you will need to get her kittens S/N before  
 putting them
 out for adoption, also incase she has a difficult delivery and needs
 emergency care.  The rescue that I work with (I foster kittens when  
 we come
 across them TNR'ing) does not adopt out intact kittens. Which  
 unfortunatly
 is the only way to ensure that a cat will be S/N' d these days.
 We're
 going to keep all paws crossed that Isobel is not pregnant, there  
 is still
 that chance.   Laura  --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jennifer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  From: Jennifer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl  
 kitty
 is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:34 PM  I know it makes sense to  
 spay
 abort, but I don't really know.  I don't believe in abortion...and  
 it would
 be a really tough thing for me to do.  I really want to try and  
 find them
 homes.  I just can't imagine killing life...I know it sounds horrible
 especially with the overpopulation.   Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  
  LOCAL
 SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.  ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)   Isobel aka Fat Girl 

[Felvtalk] Please pray for Michelle Lerner's Patches

2008-08-13 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Dear all
I just had a request for prayers from former member Michelle Lerner for
her sweet Patches.
Patches has FeLV, FIV, diabetes and hyperthyroidism, and has survived
many crises over the years. Now she's battling to overcome another.
(For those of you who don't know Michelle she was a tireless and hugely
knowledgeable contributor--as can be seen in the archives--to the
listserv for many years.)
Please can everyone send prayers and good wishes for Patches' recovery.
Thanks so much
Kerry M.

I know I have been out of touch. But I am writing to ask you to pray for
Patches, and to send a request to the listserve on behalf asking for
prayers. As you may know, Patches is now at least 7 years old (the vets
think 8 or 9 or older). She has lymphoma and has been doing well on
chemo. She also has diabetes and hyperthyroidism. Despite all of this,
and being FeLV+ and FIV+, she was doing really great until two days
ago-- fat and happy and you would never know a thing was wrong. Two days
ago had what seemed to be a severe pancreatitis attack (she also had one
in May 2007 when she became diabetic), and was jaundiced from what they
thought was cholangeohepatitis, an infection of the liver that often
accompanies pancreatitis. They did an ultrasound and thought that is
what it is (internist and oncologist) since it did not look like the
lymphoma was back.  She has been in the hospital since Saturday night,
and except for not e! ating, they thought she was doing well at first.
But she would spit up everything she was syringe fed, and now is
suddenly very anemic (HCT 16). They put a feeding tube in and are
transfusing her. We saw her before and after the tube was inserted and
she purred both times. But the vets do not think she has much chance of
survival. They think the lymphoma is probably back, which can only be
fought with chemo, and she can't get chemo in this condition. If it is
not lymphoma, the rest of the problems she is having, combined, give her
at best a 50/50 chance of survival. When they put the tube in, they did
a liver aspirate, so we should not about the lymphoma tomorrow. But they
really think that is what is going on. If it is, I guess we will just
take her home for as long as we can keep her comfortable and give her
lots of cuddling and fussing, but it would probably be for a very short
time. If it is not lymphoma, I guess she would stay in the hospital and
try treatment longer. ! we are not hopeful, though.

Please pray for her to feel better, for it not to be lymphoma, for her
to get better, and for her to be calm and and as content as possible,
and to get some good time to spend at home with us. She has been so
happy being the only cat (our negative Quincy is in a separate part of
the house and she doesn't see him) and be doted on since the other
positives died. She has really blossomed in the last year and a half,
and loves cuddling and pets and catnip and cardboard boxes. I know it is
miraculous and heroic of her to make it this long, but it still seems to
soon to let her go. She is such a superhero, and we love her so.



Please send prayers and warm thoughts.

thanks,
Michelle

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please pray for Michelle Lerner's Patches

2008-08-13 Thread Marylyn
May all the angels surround both of them.
On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:22 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:


 Dear all
 I just had a request for prayers from former member Michelle Lerner  
 for
 her sweet Patches.
 Patches has FeLV, FIV, diabetes and hyperthyroidism, and has survived
 many crises over the years. Now she's battling to overcome another.
 (For those of you who don't know Michelle she was a tireless and  
 hugely
 knowledgeable contributor--as can be seen in the archives--to the
 listserv for many years.)
 Please can everyone send prayers and good wishes for Patches'  
 recovery.
 Thanks so much
 Kerry M.

 I know I have been out of touch. But I am writing to ask you to pray  
 for
 Patches, and to send a request to the listserve on behalf asking for
 prayers. As you may know, Patches is now at least 7 years old (the  
 vets
 think 8 or 9 or older). She has lymphoma and has been doing well on
 chemo. She also has diabetes and hyperthyroidism. Despite all of this,
 and being FeLV+ and FIV+, she was doing really great until two days
 ago-- fat and happy and you would never know a thing was wrong. Two  
 days
 ago had what seemed to be a severe pancreatitis attack (she also had  
 one
 in May 2007 when she became diabetic), and was jaundiced from what  
 they
 thought was cholangeohepatitis, an infection of the liver that often
 accompanies pancreatitis. They did an ultrasound and thought that is
 what it is (internist and oncologist) since it did not look like the
 lymphoma was back.  She has been in the hospital since Saturday night,
 and except for not e! ating, they thought she was doing well at first.
 But she would spit up everything she was syringe fed, and now is
 suddenly very anemic (HCT 16). They put a feeding tube in and are
 transfusing her. We saw her before and after the tube was inserted and
 she purred both times. But the vets do not think she has much chance  
 of
 survival. They think the lymphoma is probably back, which can only be
 fought with chemo, and she can't get chemo in this condition. If it is
 not lymphoma, the rest of the problems she is having, combined, give  
 her
 at best a 50/50 chance of survival. When they put the tube in, they  
 did
 a liver aspirate, so we should not about the lymphoma tomorrow. But  
 they
 really think that is what is going on. If it is, I guess we will just
 take her home for as long as we can keep her comfortable and give her
 lots of cuddling and fussing, but it would probably be for a very  
 short
 time. If it is not lymphoma, I guess she would stay in the hospital  
 and
 try treatment longer. ! we are not hopeful, though.

 Please pray for her to feel better, for it not to be lymphoma, for her
 to get better, and for her to be calm and and as content as possible,
 and to get some good time to spend at home with us. She has been so
 happy being the only cat (our negative Quincy is in a separate part of
 the house and she doesn't see him) and be doted on since the other
 positives died. She has really blossomed in the last year and a half,
 and loves cuddling and pets and catnip and cardboard boxes. I know  
 it is
 miraculous and heroic of her to make it this long, but it still  
 seems to
 soon to let her go. She is such a superhero, and we love her so.



 Please send prayers and warm thoughts.

 thanks,
 Michelle

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[Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread jbutler5758
Hello!  I'm new to this list.  My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats.  
Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June.  We have them both on interferon 
and have regular well-cat visits with our vets.  So far, Bo and Seven are in 
good health.

I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV.  Any tips from the 
folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved 
cats?

Glad to be a part of this list!

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Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread Marylyn
I fed Dixie Louise Primal Raw mixed with organic veggies that were  
high in iron and/or vitamin C.  From the China scare she never had  
food with grains.  Until a very few days before she left this world  
she was very healthy and happy.  She saw a holistic vet frequently and  
a regular vet as needed..which was very rarely.

The best thing you can do is love them and let them love and teach  
you.  They are full of wisdom.  Enjoy every second and do not focus on  
the condition.  Give them the best you can in everything but realize  
that there are no guarantees in life.

Blessings to you.
On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!  I'm new to this list.  My husband and I have two FeLV  
 positive cats.  Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June.  We  
 have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with  
 our vets.  So far, Bo and Seven are in good health.

 I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV.  Any tips  
 from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health  
 diet for our beloved cats?

 Glad to be a part of this list!

 Jody (and Bo  Seven)
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Welcome to the list!  I must admit, I feed pretty ordinary 
food.  Would do better if I didn't do rescue and consequently have 
rescue cats.  But I have 2 FELV cats that I acquired from Oklahoma, 
and they're over 10.  I've had them for a few years, the previous 
owner had them for quite a few.  They're not on anything special, 
except love and care. The vet for the previous owner had them 
vaccinated for FELV yearly - he thought it helped.  Go figure.

All my FELV cats are over 3.  The problems I've had are at the age 
2.5 to 3 yrs old, and never had one make it past that age.  My 
current 'theory' is to use interferon till they get over 3 yrs.  I 
have a friend with 1 FELV, and 1 non-FELV, and the FELV kitty made it 
to 3 yrs and beyond and she does keep him on interferon.. They're 
doing great too!

Thanks for writing and for joining the list!

Gloria
in Arkansas



At 08:31 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote:
Hello!  I'm new to this list.  My husband and I have two FeLV 
positive cats.  Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June.  We 
have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with 
our vets.  So far, Bo and Seven are in good health.

I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV.  Any tips 
from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health 
diet for our beloved cats?

Glad to be a part of this list!

Jody (and Bo  Seven)
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[Felvtalk] Gloria/ question

2008-08-13 Thread Jane Lyons
Gloria I am going to follow your advice.

My kitten is roughly 2+ years. She was highly symptomatic and recovered
  with the exception of mildly inflamed gums.  Last week she had a  
relapse
with some sneezing and a mild runny nose.

Since we are facing that 2.5 to 3 year danger zone I thought I should  
begin
interferon.
Would you tell me what you use and how?
I was told by a friend to start with human interferon. My vet never  
offered it as an
alternative, so I am going to have to tell her what to prescribe and  
what dosage
to give.
If I did not have this list, we would never had made it past the  
first year.

I appreciate your advice.

Jane





On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 Welcome to the list!  I must admit, I feed pretty ordinary
 food.  Would do better if I didn't do rescue and consequently have
 rescue cats.  But I have 2 FELV cats that I acquired from Oklahoma,
 and they're over 10.  I've had them for a few years, the previous
 owner had them for quite a few.  They're not on anything special,
 except love and care. The vet for the previous owner had them
 vaccinated for FELV yearly - he thought it helped.  Go figure.

 All my FELV cats are over 3.  The problems I've had are at the age
 2.5 to 3 yrs old, and never had one make it past that age.  My
 current 'theory' is to use interferon till they get over 3 yrs.  I
 have a friend with 1 FELV, and 1 non-FELV, and the FELV kitty made it
 to 3 yrs and beyond and she does keep him on interferon.. They're
 doing great too!

 Thanks for writing and for joining the list!

 Gloria
 in Arkansas



 At 08:31 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote:
 Hello!  I'm new to this list.  My husband and I have two FeLV
 positive cats.  Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June.  We
 have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with
 our vets.  So far, Bo and Seven are in good health.

 I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV.  Any tips
 from the folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health
 diet for our beloved cats?

 Glad to be a part of this list!

 Jody (and Bo  Seven)
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