Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Sharyl
Welcome to the group Sidney.  Pancreatitis ca be a painful illness for cats but 
is treatable.  There is a new yahoo pancreatitis group that has some great 
treatment info.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
Has your vet Rx anything for pain?  Please do not give the General Metacam.  
There are other effective pain meds for cats.  
 
Eating is even more important for a sick kitty.  There is a wonderful Yahoo 
feeding group that has info on assist feeding.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
 
Sounds like the General has found a wonderful place to 'room'.
Sharyl


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Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:12 PM

I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I joined this 
list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia 
positive cat.  Here's our story:

I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm
almost 
52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my flowers 
and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept moving him and

he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I gave him 
milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was sitting on my 
front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as I have
always 
had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The next day he was 
still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding him every day outside. 
He 
stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to stay I better get 
him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to my dog's vet who tested
him 
for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said he's positive
for 
Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die
anyway.  
Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.  Go ahead

and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll go
from 
there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him there.  I 
moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy
now, a sweet 
loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now
he's 
having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had bouts of

vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and he's
fine for 
several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now waiting on the
results of 
some test that may be able to determine if it is truly pancreatitis.  All his 
other blood levels are normal.  No temp.  Today his heart rate was up but 
other than that he was normal other than he acted like his tummy hurt and he 
wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both things are very unlike
him as 
he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll let him)

So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General Sterling

Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie Ross: You
don't 
have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn: 
General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He just
rooms with 
me.Course I depend on him...)

Sidney and General Sterling Price


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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:19:08 AM Central Standard Time, 
maima...@duo-county.com writes:

 Love him with all your and do not fear the future.   
 Everyone who loves and is loved has a broken heart eventually and,  
 just as eventually, breaks another's heart.  Learn from him.

He's already taught me a lot.  For one thing, I now consider myself to be a 
cat and dog person!  I would NEVER have said that 2 years ago.  And I think it 
was Queen Elizabeth II who said Grief is the price we pay for love

Thanks, 
Sidney and the General


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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time, 
drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes:

 In your case, if the
 pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that won't
 irritate the pancreas.  Slippery slope, but doable.
 

Do you have any suggestions as to what that might be?  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Hi Sidney,
   Welcome, I am sorry General is feeling so poorly, pancreatitis is a 
booger to deal with, Bailey had this and it eventually turned into 
cancer and I lost him to it.  He was FeLV+ at 5 months of age and passed 
at 11 years old.  We didn't realize he had pancreatitis because he his 
blood work was fairly normal but we did suspect cancer somewhere and 
couldn't find it.  He had diarrhea and was not eating anything for 65, 
almost 6 months straight before I lost him and found the pancreatic 
cancer upon his death.

Hills prescription diet makes a food that is low in fat which is what 
you want for a cat that has pancreatitis.  It is called ID, your vet 
should be able to get it for you.  I had to eventually get a feeding 
tube put into Bailey to get enough food in to him because syringe 
feeding just wasn't working for us.  Many cats do fine with syringe 
feeding, no cat likes it to start but many will adjust and even come to 
accept it.  Bailey was not one if those, we tried it for a good month 
and he hated it the whole time, that is why I finally decided on a 
feeding tube.  Unfortunately with the cancer hiding in his body and my 
vet not being able to find it (believe me we tried, we did every test 
imaginable, but nothing ever showed us where or what kind of cancer), 
even enough food eventually wasn't enough to make him well.

It is extremely important to get General to eat, cats can get something 
called hepatic lipidosis which is basically fatty liver disease, this 
will kill them in short order is not treated, the treatment is food, 
enough of it.  An average sized adult cat needs 200 or more calories a 
day minimum, that's about a 6 oz can.  So even if you have to offer food 
every 15 minutes or put some in your finger and open General's mouth and 
put it in, do it.  I do this with Fred my CRF guy (kidney failure) if he 
won't eat when I give him his meds.  Always give food or water with 
pills, if they don't go all the way down a cats very long esophagus, 
they can dissolve in there and cause some bad damage, some cats won't 
eat if their esophagus is irritated from pills dissolving in there.  The 
main thing is make sure general is getting enough food, have your vet 
show you how to syringe feed him if you need to.  Here are some info and 
video's on how to do it:

*Click Here* cid:part1.07040401.03010103@bemikitties.com

Most important thing to remember is go slow and always go in the side of 
the mouth, you never want to shoot food or liquids straight back down a 
cats throat.

This cat has obviously gotten used to the routine and adapted very well:

*http://www.rindarealm.com/PDF/howtoforce.pdf*

Here is an article by a vet on the benefits of a feeding tube if it 
becomes a necessity.  I have had 3 cats with feeding tubes they did 
retty well, Buddie, my first tube kitty loved her tube feedings and 
actually looked forward to her feedings.

*http://www.catinfo.org/feedingtubes.htm

*Here is an article by the same vet about giving cats pills and why you 
don't want to do it without making sure they get it down all the way:

*http://www.catinfo.org/pillingcats.htm

*I hope General starts eating better on his own soon, just take things 
slow, stay calm and General will follow your lead.

-- 

Belinda
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http://BelindaSauro.com

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[Felvtalk] felv pos, neg and 2 alpha females

2008-12-14 Thread dlgegg
i have 1 pos (Annie who is an alpha type), Homey wo is felv neg, and 2 new 
girls Homey 2 and Casey who are both neg.  big problem is that Casey is also an 
alpha so Annie is now experiencing some of the bullying that she has been 
visiting on Homey.  Homey is now #3 in pecking order and poor Homey 2 is at the 
bottom of the order.  she is so terrified that she runs when she hears any 
noise and spends most of her time hidden under the bed, behind the computer 
desk or in some unknown hiding place i haven't found yet.  i am afraid that the 
additional stress will hurt Annie (pos) and leave both Homeys a basket case.  
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS?  Annie is now on the run from Casey and only feels 
secure on my lap.  Homey only feels safe on my lap. i spend a lot of time 
sitting and being a security blanket.  little Homey 2 doesn't feel safe 
anywhere.
also, Casey and Homey 2 came from 1 yr in shelter where apparently boxes were 
not cleaned too often and Casey has developed a bad habit of kicking all soiled 
litter out of box and then using the box.  any ideas on this subject?  dorlis

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I really don't know squat about pancreas - but with the mention of  
Slippery - I syringe Slippery Elm liquid to kitties with other types  
of digestive problems.   Supposed to be nutritious as well as  
soothing.  Like I say, don't know much about it for pancreas problems.

Gloria



On Dec 14, 2008, at 8:31 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time,
 drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes:

 In your case, if the
 pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that  
 won't
 irritate the pancreas.  Slippery slope, but doable.


 Do you have any suggestions as to what that might be?

 Sidney and the General


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Re: [Felvtalk] felv pos, neg and 2 alpha females

2008-12-14 Thread Cougar Clan
Try Rescue Remedy in their water and Feliway spray.
On Dec 14, 2008, at 6:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 i have 1 pos (Annie who is an alpha type), Homey wo is felv neg, and  
 2 new girls Homey 2 and Casey who are both neg.  big problem is that  
 Casey is also an alpha so Annie is now experiencing some of the  
 bullying that she has been visiting on Homey.  Homey is now #3 in  
 pecking order and poor Homey 2 is at the bottom of the order.  she  
 is so terrified that she runs when she hears any noise and spends  
 most of her time hidden under the bed, behind the computer desk or  
 in some unknown hiding place i haven't found yet.  i am afraid that  
 the additional stress will hurt Annie (pos) and leave both Homeys a  
 basket case.  DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS?  Annie is now on the run  
 from Casey and only feels secure on my lap.  Homey only feels safe  
 on my lap. i spend a lot of time sitting and being a security  
 blanket.  little Homey 2 doesn't feel safe anywhere.
 also, Casey and Homey 2 came from 1 yr in shelter where apparently  
 boxes were not cleaned too often and Casey has developed a bad habit  
 of kicking all soiled litter out of box and then using the box.  any  
 ideas on this subject?  dorlis

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