Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2009-09-07 Thread Jane Lyons

Sally
I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ 
Autumn in the
subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary  
time until your vet opens on Tuesday.


I hope you can get help for him.

Jaane




On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:


Hi, All,



I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I
desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently
posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with
the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my FeLV
boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized
for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia.
He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever
for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open again
until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy the
Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about
the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before
the transfusion and how she responded.



I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but
again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my first FeLV
cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has
thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
transfusion, etc.



Thanks.



Sally Jewell

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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Malone
I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe
 that will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like
 to do that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
 take care of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the
 investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
 checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i
 wonder some times would the world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
in his image it's not saying much for God. 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Laurieskatz
I had not seen this thread until now. I read it as man, not men. I
thought people were talking about humans in general...? 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe
 that will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like
 to do that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
 take care of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the
 investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
 checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i
 wonder some times would the world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
in his image it's not saying much for God. 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
LOL, yes, it means world without Man as in the whole species of humans.
That's very clear from the quotes from Dorlis and Lorrie below.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I had not seen this thread until now. I read it as man, not men. I
thought people were talking about humans in general...? 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe that 
 will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like to do 
 that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care 
 of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said 
 that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he checks on, he also turns 
 in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i wonder some times would the 
 world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man in his
image it's not saying much for God. 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread faerie0793
I agree with you Malone.  I find the best and worst in every group of people no 
matter the race, religion, etc.  It is the individual you need to look at...

Carla 
=^..^= 
http://www.myspace.com/carlascritters
Some wish to live within the sound of Church or Chapel bell; I want to run a 
Rescue Shop within a yard of hell. — C.T. Studd. ...

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Malone malon...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Malone malon...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:55 AM

I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe
 that will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like
 to do that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
 take care of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the
 investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
 checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i
 wonder some times would the world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
in his image it's not saying much for God. 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Second Chance Meows
I'm afraid to say that I for 1 am insulted by this thread.
  first I am a male,
 second I have been a single dad for many years and have since remarried,
third I run a sanctuary for felines
 please remember people in glass houses... shouldn't throw stones!!!


 Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary





From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 9:11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

LOL, yes, it means world without Man as in the whole species of humans.
That's very clear from the quotes from Dorlis and Lorrie below.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I had not seen this thread until now. I read it as man, not men. I
thought people were talking about humans in general...? 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe that 
 will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like to do 
 that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care 
 of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said 
 that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he checks on, he also turns 
 in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i wonder some times would the 
 world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man in his
image it's not saying much for God. 



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[Felvtalk] Wallace Please add to the CLS :(

2009-09-07 Thread Sherry DeHaan
We lost another Sids kid yesterday.Our sweet sweet Wallace had the toughest 
times than most of our Sids kids in the 3 years that we had him.No matter how 
much he was hurting he ALWAYS had a purr for us. We will miss this sweet orange 
and white love.
Sherry
 
 


 
We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Chris
PLEASE--read the original post again--Doesn't say MEN--it says MAN as in
human beings of any sex.  I think we're missing the point of the post...
Child Abuse and Spousal Abuse (irrespective of the sex of the abuser) is
closely correlated to animal abuse.  

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
ti...@mindspring.com 
Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance
Meows
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I'm afraid to say that I for 1 am insulted by this thread.
  first I am a male,
 second I have been a single dad for many years and have since remarried,
third I run a sanctuary for felines
 please remember people in glass houses... shouldn't throw stones!!!


 Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary





From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 9:11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

LOL, yes, it means world without Man as in the whole species of humans.
That's very clear from the quotes from Dorlis and Lorrie below.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I had not seen this thread until now. I read it as man, not men. I
thought people were talking about humans in general...? 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia.
Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment.
There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and
hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very
blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and
one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple
jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe that 
 will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like to do 
 that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care 
 of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said 
 that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he checks on, he also turns 
 in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i wonder some times would the 
 world be better off without man?  doris

I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man in his
image it's not saying much for God. 



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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2009-09-07 Thread jbero tds.net
Sally,

Hi, this is Jenny.  I tried calling but you weren't home.  Maybe you will
get this first.

There's a couple of issues here.  Number one depending on how anemic he is,
I would likely do a blood transfusion simply to buy him enough time for the
injection to work.  Please know that I am still waiting to see if the
injection will truely work for Autumn.  I am optimistic but don't know for
sure.

As for the more immediate issues.  The fever may be due to an infection,
possible upper respiratory, urinary tract or the dreaded hemobartonella.
These would require antibiotic treatment.  The fever may, however, be due to
a dehydrated state.  If he is not eating and drinking you will have to force
feed and/or give subcutaneous fluid.  If nothing else you can take pedialyte
in a syringe (no needles) and give it to him.  This at least provides
glucose and electrolytes temporarily.  A/D food is the best for force
feeding.  I would steer away from baby food as many of them can worsen the
anemia.  I have tried mixing pedialyte with a soft canned food (helps get
the food into and out of the syringe and provides more fluid).  Here's the
challenge - you want to get in at least around 90-100 mL a day and you don't
want them to throw up.  This is tough, but it should get through until
tomorrow.

I think it is important to say that I generally have not done the force
feeding and blood transfusions before because this is a fatal virus that
always ends the same.  Now, however, with the possibility of this Imulan
shot working, there may be hope.  It may be a long shot, but I'm willing to
try.

It is a lot of intensive care that requires subcutaneous fluids, sometimes
forced feedings, possibly antibiotics and a lot of patience, love and
prayer.  Let me know if I can help further.

Jenny
On 9/6/09, S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi, All,



 I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I
 desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently
 posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with
 the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
 presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my FeLV
 boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized
 for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia.
 He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever
 for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
 injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
 feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open again
 until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy the
 Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
 Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about
 the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before
 the transfusion and how she responded.



 I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but
 again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my first FeLV
 cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has
 thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
 desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
 transfusion, etc.



 Thanks.



 Sally Jewell

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wallace Please add to the CLS :(

2009-09-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Sherry --

Gentle Bridge vibes to good kitty Wallace. He will have an easy time from
now on. Hugs to all at Sids. 

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Wallace Please add to the CLS :(

We lost another Sids kid yesterday.Our sweet sweet Wallace had the toughest
times than most of our Sids kids in the 3 years that we had him.No matter
how much he was hurting he ALWAYS had a purr for us. We will miss this sweet
orange and white love.
Sherry
 
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn Update

2009-09-07 Thread Alice Flowers
I am so glad to hear that she is holding her own! I have asked my vet if she 
would consider trying the Imulan and she agreed. She has set up her account 
with them last week and hopefully will be able to place an order in the next 
week. Since rescuing 5 feral kittens last year (Oct 08) plus a bonus FeLV that 
was tossed into the feral colony, we have lost the 4 brothers in the past 5 
months, only one barely made it to a year old. We still have the tabby sister, 
Rosie and the bonus kitty-Murphy. We had attempted a transfusion with the 
second one, with not so good results-he was euthanized after having a reaction 
during the procedure. We quit counting after 6 grand. This has been a long, 
heartbreaking journey. With only the 2 cats left and they are just a tad over a 
year old, we can't give up. Reading about Autumn has given us hope that there 
is something out there that will help. We already are giving the Interferon 
Alpha 2x a day. Rosie and Murphy appear
 healthy, bright and shiny, playful-but so did her brothers until they just 
crashed fast. Maybe in Rosie's case it may be the female gene-her mother is 
still alive and feral, we TNR'd he last year and she has always appeared 
healthy-in fact since her spay, has become filled out and relaxed-we can even 
pet her on occaison. I have so much hope that the Imulan will help us-we are 
going to follow the once a week for a month on the injections and see where how 
it goes.
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[Felvtalk] Assist Feeding and Sub Q Fluids

2009-09-07 Thread Sharyl
Assist feeding is key to helping any sick kitty.  Cats that don't feel well 
don't eat.  The less a cat eats the less they want to eat.  It is a vicious 
cycle.

I prefer assist feeding vs force feeding.  It is a state of mind.  You are 
assisting your beloved kitty to eat to give you both time to treat the current 
illness.  If you are syringe feeding, many of the meds can be mixed into the 
food you syringe.  Here is the link to the Yahoo Assist Feeding group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
One of the files you receive when joining is on how to safely syringe feed.  
Read that one if you don't read anything else.

Any pate style canned food can be syringe feed by blending it with a little 
liquid until it is the consistency of a thick milk shake.  Gently warming the 
food make it easier to syringe feed. 

Dehydration can be caused by the illness, a fever, diarrhea, etc.  It is 
critical to maintain adequate hydration in a kitty and is easy to do with Sub Q 
fluids.  I've done it by myself for my CRF and FeLV kitties.  This link was my 
bible for giving sub q fluids.
Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids 
http://www.tinyurl.com/63max 
You will need an Rx from your vet for the fluids and IV sets.  Some states 
require a Rx for the needles.  I order the fluids by the case though my local 
pharmacy and buy the IV sets and needles on line.  

I might not be able to cure the FeLV but I can make sure my kitties receive 
adequate nutrition and fluids.  
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:

 From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:14 PM
 Sally,
 
 Hi, this is Jenny.  I tried calling but you weren't
 home.  Maybe you will
 get this first.
 
 There's a couple of issues here.  Number one depending
 on how anemic he is,
 I would likely do a blood transfusion simply to buy him
 enough time for the
 injection to work.  Please know that I am still
 waiting to see if the
 injection will truely work for Autumn.  I am
 optimistic but don't know for
 sure.
 
 As for the more immediate issues.  The fever may be
 due to an infection,
 possible upper respiratory, urinary tract or the dreaded
 hemobartonella.
 These would require antibiotic treatment.  The fever
 may, however, be due to
 a dehydrated state.  If he is not eating and drinking
 you will have to force
 feed and/or give subcutaneous fluid.  If nothing else
 you can take pedialyte
 in a syringe (no needles) and give it to him.  This at
 least provides
 glucose and electrolytes temporarily.  A/D food is the
 best for force
 feeding.  I would steer away from baby food as many of
 them can worsen the
 anemia.  I have tried mixing pedialyte with a soft
 canned food (helps get
 the food into and out of the syringe and provides more
 fluid).  Here's the
 challenge - you want to get in at least around 90-100 mL a
 day and you don't
 want them to throw up.  This is tough, but it should
 get through until
 tomorrow.
 
 I think it is important to say that I generally have not
 done the force
 feeding and blood transfusions before because this is a
 fatal virus that
 always ends the same.  Now, however, with the
 possibility of this Imulan
 shot working, there may be hope.  It may be a long
 shot, but I'm willing to
 try.
 
 It is a lot of intensive care that requires subcutaneous
 fluids, sometimes
 forced feedings, possibly antibiotics and a lot of
 patience, love and
 prayer.  Let me know if I can help further.
 
 Jenny
 On 9/6/09, S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wallace Please add to the CLS :(

2009-09-07 Thread Sharyl
Sherry, I'll light a candle for Wallace tonight.  At least he had your love 
while at SIDs.
Sharyl 

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 From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Wallace  Please add to the CLS :(
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:11 PM
 We lost another Sids kid
 yesterday.Our sweet sweet Wallace had the toughest times
 than most of our Sids kids in the 3 years that we had him.No
 matter how much he was hurting he ALWAYS had a purr for us.
 We will miss this sweet orange and white love.
 Sherry
  
  
 
 
  
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 temporary
 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Lorrie
 On 09-07, Laurieskatz wrote: I had not seen this thread until now.
 I read it as man, not men. I thought people were talking about
 humans in general...?

Right, we were talking about humans in general not men!


 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone
 Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
 
 I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline
 leukemia. Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site
 for the moment. There are many men that are wonderful people. You
 sound very bitter and hateful toward a whole group because of the
 actions of one. I am very blessed to know men that are caring and
 productive members of society--and one that has truly been a
 blessing to many infected cat--working multiple jobs to ensure that
 the cats were given the very best care.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
 
 On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe
  that will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like
  to do that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
  take care of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the
  investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
  checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i
  wonder some times would the world be better off without man?  doris
 
 I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
 in his image it's not saying much for God. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Misundestanding here........

2009-09-07 Thread Lorrie
Malone, 
We were not talking about men.  There are many wonderful caring
men, who love cats. We were speaking about unkind HUMANS who do cruel
things.  Thankfully they are in the minority.  Most people are good.


On 09-07, Malone wrote: I thought this was a site about helping
 felines with feline leukemia. Instead it seems to have turned into
 a male bashing site for the moment. There are many men that are
 wonderful people. You sound very bitter and hateful toward a whole
 group because of the actions of one. I am very blessed to know men
 that are caring and productive members of society--and one that has
 truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple jobs
 to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
 
 On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors.  maybe
  that will make a difference.  i know a lot of people i would like
  to do that to.  same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
  take care of children.  when i reported a case of abuse, the
  investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
  checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse.  i
  wonder some times would the world be better off without man?  doris
 
 I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
 in his image it's not saying much for God. 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Misundestanding here........

2009-09-07 Thread Kathi Clark

I'm sort of new here but had to add my 2 cents.  I agree with 
dlg...@windstream.net.  She was not talking about A man; she was talking about 
MAN, meaning the human race, women included.  I'm sure Doris agrees with you, 
Malone, that there are more men than not who love cats and also the infected 
ones.  In fact, there are a lot of good people in this world but a few of those 
bad apples seem to spoil the whole bunch. 


 
 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:59:06 -0400
 From: felineres...@kvinet.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Misundestanding here
 
 Malone, 
 We were not talking about men. There are many wonderful caring
 men, who love cats. We were speaking about unkind HUMANS who do cruel
 things. Thankfully they are in the minority. Most people are good.
 
 
 On 09-07, Malone wrote: I thought this was a site about helping
  felines with feline leukemia. Instead it seems to have turned into
  a male bashing site for the moment. There are many men that are
  wonderful people. You sound very bitter and hateful toward a whole
  group because of the actions of one. I am very blessed to know men
  that are caring and productive members of society--and one that has
  truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple jobs
  to ensure that the cats were given the very best care.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
  
  On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  
   Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors. maybe
   that will make a difference. i know a lot of people i would like
   to do that to. same ones that don't take care of pets also do not
   take care of children. when i reported a case of abuse, the
   investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he
   checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse. i
   wonder some times would the world be better off without man? doris
  
  I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man
  in his image it's not saying much for God. 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-09-07 Thread Belinda Sauro

  I think in this case she meant mankind, not men.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Assist Feeding and Sub Q Fluids

2009-09-07 Thread Belinda Sauro
   In Washington state I buy my fluids and syringes over the counter, 
no prescriptions required.


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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2009-09-07 Thread S. Jewell
Thank you very much, Jane.  I appreciate your concern and
suggestions.  I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called
and I wasn't home.  At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and
Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey.  He took right
to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be
giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding
again even later.  I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him
via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first
effort.  He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on
the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely
anemic, so hopefully I have some time.  We'll know tomorrow
when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly
hate.  At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him
again for lymphocyte and RBC count.  

Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in
an effort to help others.  I appreciate it very much.

Sally Jewell

 

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
 Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
 Sally
 I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post
with
 Jenny/
 Autumn in the
 subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through
this scary
 time until your vet opens on Tuesday.
 
 I hope you can get help for him.
 
 Jaane
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
  Hi, All,
 
 
 
  I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I
  desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who
recently
  posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement
with
  the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
  presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my
FeLV
  boys right now who is not eating and has been
hospitalized
  for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild
anemia.
  He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his
fever
  for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
  injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
  feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open
again
  until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy
the
  Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
  Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny
about
  the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was
before
  the transfusion and how she responded.
 
 
 
  I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this
but
  again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my first
FeLV
  cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it
has
  thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
  desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
  transfusion, etc.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  Sally Jewell
 
  502-363-1002
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2009-09-07 Thread S. Jewell
Thank you very much, Jane.  I appreciate your concern and
suggestions.  I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called
and I wasn't home.  At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and
Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey.  He took right
to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be
giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding
again even later.  I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him
via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first
effort.  He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on
the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely
anemic, so hopefully I have some time.  We'll know tomorrow
when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly
hate.  At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him
again for lymphocyte and RBC count.  

Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in
an effort to help others.  I appreciate it very much.

Sally Jewell

 

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
 Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
 Sally
 I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post
with
 Jenny/
 Autumn in the
 subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through
this scary
 time until your vet opens on Tuesday.
 
 I hope you can get help for him.
 
 Jaane
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
  Hi, All,
 
 
 
  I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I
  desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who
recently
  posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement
with
  the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
  presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my
FeLV
  boys right now who is not eating and has been
hospitalized
  for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild
anemia.
  He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his
fever
  for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
  injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
  feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open
again
  until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy
the
  Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
  Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny
about
  the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was
before
  the transfusion and how she responded.
 
 
 
  I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this
but
  again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my first
FeLV
  cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it
has
  thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
  desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
  transfusion, etc.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  Sally Jewell
 
  502-363-1002
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally

2009-09-07 Thread Laurieskatz
Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is great. Please
check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject assisted
feeding. It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food via
syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver failure. 
Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you.
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

Thank you very much, Jane.  I appreciate your concern and
suggestions.  I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called
and I wasn't home.  At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and
Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey.  He took right
to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be
giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding
again even later.  I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him
via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first
effort.  He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on
the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely
anemic, so hopefully I have some time.  We'll know tomorrow
when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly
hate.  At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him
again for lymphocyte and RBC count.  

Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in
an effort to help others.  I appreciate it very much.

Sally Jewell

 

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
 Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
 Sally
 I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post
with
 Jenny/
 Autumn in the
 subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through
this scary
 time until your vet opens on Tuesday.
 
 I hope you can get help for him.
 
 Jaane
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
  Hi, All,
 
 
 
  I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I
  desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who
recently
  posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement
with
  the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
  presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my
FeLV
  boys right now who is not eating and has been
hospitalized
  for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild
anemia.
  He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his
fever
  for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
  injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
  feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open
again
  until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy
the
  Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
  Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny
about
  the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was
before
  the transfusion and how she responded.
 
 
 
  I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this
but
  again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my first
FeLV
  cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it
has
  thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
  desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
  transfusion, etc.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  Sally Jewell
 
  502-363-1002
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally

2009-09-07 Thread S. Jewell
Thanks so much for the encouragement and information,
Laurie.  This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of
you know too well.  

Sally Jewell

 

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally
 
 Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That
is
 great. Please
 check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with
subject
 assisted
 feeding. It is important for Lukey to get the same amount
of food
 via
 syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid
liver
 failure.
 Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you.
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
S.
 Jewell
 Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
 Thank you very much, Jane.  I appreciate your concern and
 suggestions.  I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she
called
 and I wasn't home.  At her suggestion, I bought some A/D
and
 Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey.  He took
right
 to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be
 giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding
 again even later.  I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down
him
 via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first
 effort.  He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on
 the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet
severely
 anemic, so hopefully I have some time.  We'll know
tomorrow
 when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly
 hate.  At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him
 again for lymphocyte and RBC count.
 
 Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here
in
 an effort to help others.  I appreciate it very much.
 
 Sally Jewell
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-
  boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
  Sally
  I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post
 with
  Jenny/
  Autumn in the
  subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through
 this scary
  time until your vet opens on Tuesday.
 
  I hope you can get help for him.
 
  Jaane
 
 
 
 
  On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
   Hi, All,
  
  
  
   I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but
I
   desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who
 recently
   posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement
 with
   the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
   presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my
 FeLV
   boys right now who is not eating and has been
 hospitalized
   for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild
 anemia.
   He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his
 fever
   for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
   injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
   feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open
 again
   until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy
 the
   Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
   Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny
 about
   the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was
 before
   the transfusion and how she responded.
  
  
  
   I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this
 but
   again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my
first
 FeLV
   cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it
 has
   thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
   desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
   transfusion, etc.
  
  
  
   Thanks.
  
  
  
   Sally Jewell
  
   502-363-1002
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally

2009-09-07 Thread S. Jewell
Thanks so much for the encouragement and information,
Laurie.  This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of
you know too well.  

Sally Jewell

 

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally
 
 Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That
is
 great. Please
 check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with
subject
 assisted
 feeding. It is important for Lukey to get the same amount
of food
 via
 syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid
liver
 failure.
 Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you.
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
S.
 Jewell
 Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
 Thank you very much, Jane.  I appreciate your concern and
 suggestions.  I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she
called
 and I wasn't home.  At her suggestion, I bought some A/D
and
 Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey.  He took
right
 to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be
 giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding
 again even later.  I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down
him
 via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first
 effort.  He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on
 the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet
severely
 anemic, so hopefully I have some time.  We'll know
tomorrow
 when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly
 hate.  At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him
 again for lymphocyte and RBC count.
 
 Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here
in
 an effort to help others.  I appreciate it very much.
 
 Sally Jewell
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-
  boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
 
  Sally
  I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post
 with
  Jenny/
  Autumn in the
  subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through
 this scary
  time until your vet opens on Tuesday.
 
  I hope you can get help for him.
 
  Jaane
 
 
 
 
  On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
   Hi, All,
  
  
  
   I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but
I
   desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who
 recently
   posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement
 with
   the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I
   presume that's what it was).  I am treating one of my
 FeLV
   boys right now who is not eating and has been
 hospitalized
   for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild
 anemia.
   He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his
 fever
   for several days at the vet.  He got his first LTCI
   injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit
   feverish again and not eating.  My vet doesn't open
 again
   until Tuesday and I am worried.  I am preparing to buy
 the
   Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to
   Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny
 about
   the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was
 before
   the transfusion and how she responded.
  
  
  
   I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this
 but
   again, this is all new to me.  My Lukey boy is my
first
 FeLV
   cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it
 has
   thrown us for a loop.  We are beyond heart sick and
   desperate to help me in any additional ways such as
   transfusion, etc.
  
  
  
   Thanks.
  
  
  
   Sally Jewell
  
   502-363-1002
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn Update

2009-09-07 Thread Jane Lyons
This is such great news about Autumn and hopefully good news for all  
of our kitties. Please keep us updated on her
progress. I want to be able to keep these reports for my vet (about  
to be former vet) who has been so adamant
about the lack of testing and science and so hostile to the Imulan  
company.


Jane









On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Alice Flowers wrote:

I am so glad to hear that she is holding her own! I have asked my  
vet if she would consider trying the Imulan and she agreed. She has  
set up her account with them last week and hopefully will be able  
to place an order in the next week. Since rescuing 5 feral kittens  
last year (Oct 08) plus a bonus FeLV that was tossed into the feral  
colony, we have lost the 4 brothers in the past 5 months, only one  
barely made it to a year old. We still have the tabby sister, Rosie  
and the bonus kitty-Murphy. We had attempted a transfusion with the  
second one, with not so good results-he was euthanized after having  
a reaction during the procedure. We quit counting after 6 grand.  
This has been a long, heartbreaking journey. With only the 2 cats  
left and they are just a tad over a year old, we can't give up.  
Reading about Autumn has given us hope that there is something out  
there that will help. We already are giving the Interferon Alpha 2x  
a day. Rosie and Murphy appear
 healthy, bright and shiny, playful-but so did her brothers until  
they just crashed fast. Maybe in Rosie's case it may be the female  
gene-her mother is still alive and feral, we TNR'd he last year and  
she has always appeared healthy-in fact since her spay, has become  
filled out and relaxed-we can even pet her on occaison. I have so  
much hope that the Imulan will help us-we are going to follow the  
once a week for a month on the injections and see where how it goes.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 6

2009-09-07 Thread Jacalyn Moffat
Every loss I read about makes me shed tears. I know how much it hurts. My
heart thoughts are with you. Jackie
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