[Felvtalk] Introduction

2009-11-04 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
Hello..I'm new to the group.  I am a bit embarrassed about posting and
asking for your expertise.  Each of the postings I have read seems to
indicate you are all actively involved in opening your hearts and homes to
rescue kittens, and my little FeLV+ family was recently purchased from a
breeder.  My husband and I have had rescue cats and kittens all our lives,
and recently we fell in love with two Bengal kittens, brother and sister,
from a local breeder.  We purchased them and once home, realized we had
major socialization issues to overcome, new to us.  We have no other pets.
Once having (almost) mastered that, with a great sense of accomplishment we
took them to our office vet (our regular vet has a housecall practice) for
their spaying and neutering procedures.  During the pre-op blood work, it
was discovered they are both FeLV positive.  We were devastated, as my only
experience with the disease quite some time ago was not at all positive.  A
lot has taken place in the field since that earlier experience, and I'm
trying to educate myself on this disease, so please correct me where I don't
understand what I'm talking about.  The first test (is this what is meant by
the snap test?), indicated the presence of FeLV, and a subsequent test
sent out to a lab on the blood serum also indicated the presence of FeLV.
An additional blood test determined the disease is not in the bone marrow of
either kitten at this time.  They will be 8 months old mid-November.

 

I began a web search which brought me to this group, and also introduced me
to LTCI, which we started last weekend.  At this point in time, they are in
generally excellent health, very energetic, and have good appetites (the
male will only eat RadCat organic raw turkey, the female is eating Wellness
wet.both eat Wellness kitten kibble).  They both have indications of gum
disease, something I understand is not unusual with this diagnosis, and the
male very infrequently has a cough that sounds like a hairball, but is not
productive.  An X-ray during his neuter procedure indicated nothing unusual,
but it concerns me, primarily now because I'm waiting for the other shoe to
drop since the FeLV+ diagnosis.  

 

Given the background above, in addition to the LTCI, would any of you
suggest other steps we might take to assure these little kittens stay as
healthy as possible for as long as possible?  Many thanks.

 

Sara F Kasteleyn

CIC Research, Inc.

8361 Vickers Street

San Diego, CA   92111

T - 858-637-4000

F - 858-637-4040

skastel...@cicresearch.com

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction

2009-11-04 Thread Cougar Clan
You will receive wonderful advise from this boardmuch better than  
I can give you.  My story is that a wonderful throw-away showed up at  
Mom's.  Due to some problems (read two dead cats at two different  
vets) in a very short time, I took the little girl to my personal vets  
(Middletown Animal Clinic) in Louisville, KY to be spayed and taken to  
my farm.  Dixie, as she soon became known, was FELV+.  Greg Bishop  
called with the blood test results and you could hear his heart in his  
mouth.  I knew nothing about FELV but he and Steve Koehler talked me  
through it.  We came up with a way to keep Dixie that involved me  
sleeping in a garage with her at my mother's, then moving her to a  
single wide then to a farm house + a home in Louisville.  She was my  
darling for three years, healthy and happy until a little bite before  
she left this world and broke my heart.  She had everything..All  
of this is to say, don't listen to the people who tell you there is no  
quality of lifeI promise you, no cat lived the life Dixie lived.   
Don't watch a calendarwe all start dying the minute we take our  
first breath and no one knows when we will leave this world.Don't  
grieve..you have wonderful lives in your hands.  Learn from them.   
Accept them.  Let them give to you and, in turn, give to them.  I give  
credit to my holistic vet, Betty Boswell, for helping keep Dixie  
health and happy.  Between Middletown Animal Clinic and Betty I had  
the best of all support.  If you have a holistic vet, please contact  
her/him for support.  For me, a mixture of styles work.  You have to  
chose.  Dixie left this world in June 2008.  In July, over a period of  
two weeks, Dixie sent me two very healthy kittens from the pine  
thicket she came from.  Copper and Thomas Cougar live with me now and  
have taken my grief and turned it to joy.


Listen to the people on this board who have faced this time and time  
again.  I have once.  I don't ever want to again because it is an  
awful thing.   However, had either boy been FELV+ or if any future  
kitten/cat comes my way with this problem...well, we'll get  
through it together.

On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Sara Kasteleyn wrote:


Hello..I'm new to the group.  I am a bit embarrassed about posting and
asking for your expertise.  Each of the postings I have read seems to
indicate you are all actively involved in opening your hearts and  
homes to
rescue kittens, and my little FeLV+ family was recently purchased  
from a
breeder.  My husband and I have had rescue cats and kittens all our  
lives,
and recently we fell in love with two Bengal kittens, brother and  
sister,
from a local breeder.  We purchased them and once home, realized we  
had
major socialization issues to overcome, new to us.  We have no other  
pets.
Once having (almost) mastered that, with a great sense of  
accomplishment we
took them to our office vet (our regular vet has a housecall  
practice) for
their spaying and neutering procedures.  During the pre-op blood  
work, it
was discovered they are both FeLV positive.  We were devastated, as  
my only
experience with the disease quite some time ago was not at all  
positive.  A
lot has taken place in the field since that earlier experience, and  
I'm
trying to educate myself on this disease, so please correct me where  
I don't
understand what I'm talking about.  The first test (is this what is  
meant by
the snap test?), indicated the presence of FeLV, and a subsequent  
test
sent out to a lab on the blood serum also indicated the presence of  
FeLV.
An additional blood test determined the disease is not in the bone  
marrow of

either kitten at this time.  They will be 8 months old mid-November.



I began a web search which brought me to this group, and also  
introduced me
to LTCI, which we started last weekend.  At this point in time, they  
are in
generally excellent health, very energetic, and have good appetites  
(the
male will only eat RadCat organic raw turkey, the female is eating  
Wellness
wet.both eat Wellness kitten kibble).  They both have indications of  
gum
disease, something I understand is not unusual with this diagnosis,  
and the
male very infrequently has a cough that sounds like a hairball, but  
is not
productive.  An X-ray during his neuter procedure indicated nothing  
unusual,
but it concerns me, primarily now because I'm waiting for the other  
shoe to

drop since the FeLV+ diagnosis.



Given the background above, in addition to the LTCI, would any of you
suggest other steps we might take to assure these little kittens  
stay as

healthy as possible for as long as possible?  Many thanks.



Sara F Kasteleyn

CIC Research, Inc.

8361 Vickers Street

San Diego, CA   92111

T - 858-637-4000

F - 858-637-4040

skastel...@cicresearch.com



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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction

2009-11-04 Thread dlgegg
Hello Sara,  just about 1 year ago, I was new to this group because a new cat I 
adopted thru my vet turned out to be felv positive.  I am lucky, my vet said I 
had 2 choices, put her to sleep or keep her and deal with whatever came up.  He 
also told me that many felv pos. cats live long healthy lives.  So, I opted to 
keep Annie.  Her owner was dying of liver cancer and she had always been an 
only, indoor cat.  She had been left alone in Kathy's trailer for 3 weeks with 
her only human contct being the sister coming and puting out food and changing 
her litter box.  She was extremely stressed, frightened and confused.  When she 
came home with me, she had to get used to being with another cat which was a 
probelm because she is an alpha female and had been a spoiled, only cat all 4 
years of her life.  We did the 2nd test right away and then waited 6 months to 
retest because we both were hoping that once the stress was out of her life, 
she might be negative.  No such luck.  No special treatment for her, she now 
has 4 new sisters and 1 brother.  2 of the new girls are also alpha, but slowly 
but surely, they are working out their places in my house.  Annie is still 
positive as is the last girl to come to me, Nitnoy (Thai for little one) who 
had her tail bitten off by a raccoon.  Both of them are fat, sassy, loving and 
healthy cats.  The other girls and Bob are all current on their felv 
vaccinations.  They are all together.  I think the most important thing is to 
keep the stress at a minimum, provide good quality food, shelter and lots of 
love.  My pride takes turns sleeping on my bed and sitting on my lap.  The only 
special thing I do is give Enisyl-F Lysine Treats which help boost the immune 
system.  The taste good and they all like them so it makes it easy to 
medicate them.  Other than that, i keep a close eye on them and if it looks 
like something may be wrong, off to the vet we go.  
My only experience with death of my babies, is due to old age, hyper thyroid 
and stroke.  I had 6 boys and 1 girl.  Shali and Tigger died from thyroid at 13 
and 14.  Shadow and Shorty died from stroke at 19.  Snuggles from kidney 
infection at 19.
Shalimar was hit by a car and Tut died of grief after he raised their kittens 
(Shali and Tigger) who were 1 week old when she was killed.  I bottle fed them 
.  Whether they are young or old when they cross the bridge, it hurts the same. 
 I wasn't going to take on so many ever again, but one by one they came to me, 
needing someone to love them and I couldn't say no.  So, no matter when Annie 
and Nitnoy cross over, they will get all the love and care I can give them in 
the meantime.  In short, don't let someone else make the decision to keep or 
let go for you.  God has put them in your safe keeping for a purpose and He 
will let you know when to let them go.  Dorlis
 Sara Kasteleyn skastel...@cicresearch.com wrote: 
 Hello..I'm new to the group.  I am a bit embarrassed about posting and
 asking for your expertise.  Each of the postings I have read seems to
 indicate you are all actively involved in opening your hearts and homes to
 rescue kittens, and my little FeLV+ family was recently purchased from a
 breeder.  My husband and I have had rescue cats and kittens all our lives,
 and recently we fell in love with two Bengal kittens, brother and sister,
 from a local breeder.  We purchased them and once home, realized we had
 major socialization issues to overcome, new to us.  We have no other pets.
 Once having (almost) mastered that, with a great sense of accomplishment we
 took them to our office vet (our regular vet has a housecall practice) for
 their spaying and neutering procedures.  During the pre-op blood work, it
 was discovered they are both FeLV positive.  We were devastated, as my only
 experience with the disease quite some time ago was not at all positive.  A
 lot has taken place in the field since that earlier experience, and I'm
 trying to educate myself on this disease, so please correct me where I don't
 understand what I'm talking about.  The first test (is this what is meant by
 the snap test?), indicated the presence of FeLV, and a subsequent test
 sent out to a lab on the blood serum also indicated the presence of FeLV.
 An additional blood test determined the disease is not in the bone marrow of
 either kitten at this time.  They will be 8 months old mid-November.
 
  
 
 I began a web search which brought me to this group, and also introduced me
 to LTCI, which we started last weekend.  At this point in time, they are in
 generally excellent health, very energetic, and have good appetites (the
 male will only eat RadCat organic raw turkey, the female is eating Wellness
 wet.both eat Wellness kitten kibble).  They both have indications of gum
 disease, something I understand is not unusual with this diagnosis, and the
 male very infrequently has a cough that sounds like a hairball, but is not
 productive.  An X-ray during his