Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

Yes, but don't get me started on thathow can you research with NO medical 
staff?

Debbie (COL)
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 From: fs...@roadrunner.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:55:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about 
 two years ago?
 Sue
 - Original Message - 
 From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
  I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of 
  my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I 
  drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her 
  backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw 
  with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be 
  cautious
  Debbie (COL)
  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
  Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
  From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
  Agreed.
 
  Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to 
  visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to 
  crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
 
  --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
 
   From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
   We have trapped two large groups. In
   each group one was FeLV+. None of the
   others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
   colony. The other guy
   was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
   had a negative
   living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
   never tested
   positive.
   Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
   and separate. Not
   the vet's decision. Yours.
   L
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
   On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
   Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
   Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
   have they been living
   with that group of cats?
  
   We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
   at least 4 years
   now. She and a small feral colony came with the
   house. Last year I tested
   her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
   him and he was
   negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
   within a healthy adult
   population.
  
   --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
  
From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
   and
father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
   fixed. I
went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
   fixed
and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
   other
cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
   they
aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
   Crystal
   
   
   
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

Crystal, please don't paint all sanctuaries with the same brush...I am sure 
there are good, loving places...it is my dream to have my own sanctuary one 
dayjust be sure to do your homework and I'm sure you would do just fine.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:22:03 -0800
 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea.  I don't want them to live a 
 horrible life.  Plus all the places I have contacted are full.  I have an 
 appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I 
 have to start trying to catch her.  I am getting a live trap.  Shes friendly 
 but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage.  I am hoping they will keep 
 her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back 
 outside.  I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or 
 the male cats life either.  There are several people that care for them and 
 feed them and its only those two cats that live there.  I think I will just 
 get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do.
  
  
  
  
 ---
  
  
 Frank  Sue Koren
 Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800
 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about 
 two years ago? 
 Sue
 - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my 
 feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove 
 down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet 
 me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes 
 that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
 
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Agreed.
 
 Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to 
 visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to 
 crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. 
 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
 
  From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
  We have trapped two large groups. In
  each group one was FeLV+. None of the
  others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
  colony. The other guy
  was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
  had a negative
  living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
  never tested
  positive.
  Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
  and separate. Not
  the vet's decision. Yours.
  L
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
  Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
  have they been living
  with that group of cats?
 
  We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
  at least 4 years
  now. She and a small feral colony came with the
  house. Last year I tested
  her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
  him and he was
  negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
  within a healthy adult
  population.
 
  --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
   Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
   Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
   sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
  and
   father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
  fixed. I
   went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
  fixed
   and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
  other
   cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
  they
   aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
   sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
  Crystal
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Patricia . A . Elkins
Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?

The vet can sell you a pill popper - a little device that helps some 
people get those pills
down them.
What I would do is to grind up the pills and mix with meat based human 
baby food and a little
water.  Then use a syringe, without a needle, to squirt this into the 
cat's mouth but not
down his throat.  If a cat isn't eating, he needs assisted feeding until 
you see if the medicines
are going to make a difference.  When I am syringe feeding a non-eating 
cat, I give them 
a syringe of food, a syringe of water or pedialyte, a blob of nutrical 
that I try to wipe off my finger
onto the upper palate of the cat so it is harder to spit out, and cycle 
around that way until the
cat has no more patience for the proceedure.  For a grown cat of any size, 
I would aim to
get at the very minimum, one jar of baby food in him per day.  Two jars 
would be much better.
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600
 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Hi, All,
 
 I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
 he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet
 and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
 and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
 was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
 for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
 med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
 Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
 
 Thanks,
 Bugra
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Heather
I have found that several of my cats who won't eat the pill pockets, will
eat a pill inside another soft-type treat like Whisker Lickins or hairball
treats.

The Whisker Lickins are more crumbly than PP and sometimes you need to use
more than one but mine seem to like the flavor more than PP..

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets

 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo



  Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600
  From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
  Hi, All,
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
 
  Thanks,
  Bugra
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Bugrahan Yalvac
Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.

He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.

It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those
cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.
Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.

Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot
manage to medicate a cat orally?

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
 What are the pills?

 Gary

 Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:

 Hi, All,

 I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
 he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet
 and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
 and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
 was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
 for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
 med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.

 Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?

 Thanks,
 Bugra




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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Bugrahan Yalvac
Thank-you! I will try this!

Bugra

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:27 AM,  patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:
Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?

 The vet can sell you a pill popper - a little device that helps some
 people get those pills
 down them.
 What I would do is to grind up the pills and mix with meat based human
 baby food and a little
 water.  Then use a syringe, without a needle, to squirt this into the
 cat's mouth but not
 down his throat.  If a cat isn't eating, he needs assisted feeding until
 you see if the medicines
 are going to make a difference.  When I am syringe feeding a non-eating
 cat, I give them
 a syringe of food, a syringe of water or pedialyte, a blob of nutrical
 that I try to wipe off my finger
 onto the upper palate of the cat so it is harder to spit out, and cycle
 around that way until the
 cat has no more patience for the proceedure.  For a grown cat of any size,
 I would aim to
 get at the very minimum, one jar of baby food in him per day.  Two jars
 would be much better.
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

or a softened piece of cheese!

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:40:55 -0500
 From: furrygi...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 I have found that several of my cats who won't eat the pill pockets, will
 eat a pill inside another soft-type treat like Whisker Lickins or hairball
 treats.
 
 The Whisker Lickins are more crumbly than PP and sometimes you need to use
 more than one but mine seem to like the flavor more than PP..
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets
 
  Debbie (COL)
  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
   Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600
   From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
   Hi, All,
  
   I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
   he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet
   and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
   and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
   was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
   for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
   med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
  
   Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
  
   Thanks,
   Bugra
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Not Eating

2009-12-10 Thread Sharyl
Bugra, did the vet do any other blood work?  If so can you get a copy of the 
est results?  So many things can cause a cat to stop eating.  Licking litter is 
an indication of anemia.

The appetite stimulant is probably Cyproheptadine (aka Periactin) which is an 
antihistamine.  Most vets Rx too high a dose.  It is better to start with 1/8 
to 1/4 tablet once per day.  There are problem with using an appetite stimulant 
if the cat is nauseous.  He will develop a food aversion if given a stimulant.  

There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group you may want to join.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
Their files on assist feeding should be helpful.

You've already received advise to syringe feed him meat baby food (no onions or 
garlic).  Most pills can be crushed and mixed into the baby food for assist 
feeding.  You can find syringes at your vet or in the baby section at your 
local pharmacy.

The Assist Feeding site has info on various types of feeding tubes that can be 
inserted by your vet if syringe feeding isn't possible.
Sharyl


--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

 From: Gary gcru...@centurytel.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:17 AM
 What are the pills?
 
 Gary
 
 Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:
  Hi, All,
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months
 ago. A week ago
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I
 took him to the vet
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids
 and antibiotics
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for
 couple days. He
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for few
 days. However
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I
 tried two times to
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills)
 to a cat?
 
  Thanks,
  Bugra
 
 
    
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Sharyl
Crystal, if it is just those two cats in the colony then fixing and returning 
them is a good option.  It sounds like they are well fed. 

I have used a large carrier for trapping.  I tie a strong string to the door, 
place food inside and pull the door shut when they go in to eat.  You would 
want to practice at home 1st.  I put a small piece of wood under the front so 
the grass doesn't prevent the door from pulling shut.  I use warm chicken (no 
bones or skin) and leave a trail to the carrier.  You might want to do this for 
a few days before you want to trap them to get them used to eating the chicken 
and following it into the carrier.
Good Luck
Sharyl

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:22 PM
 Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the
 sanctuary idea.  I don't want them to live a horrible
 life.  Plus all the places I have contacted are full.  I
 have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a
 few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. 
 I am getting a live trap.  Shes friendly but you can't pick
 her up and put her in a cage.  I am hoping they will keep
 her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before
 I let her go back outside.  I dont think its my place to
 make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life
 either.  There are several people that care for them and
 feed them and its only those two cats that live there.  I
 think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and
 continue on with what we do.
  
  
  
  
 ---
  
  
 Frank  Sue Koren
 Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800
 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching
 snake venom about two years ago? 
 Sue
 - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the
 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been
 closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day
 after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me
 just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw
 with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than
 death'.please be cautious 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard
 battle  Philo
 
 
 
 
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat
 Sanctuaries
 
 Agreed.
 
 Also, be very careful about so-called
 sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to
 be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and
 burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. 
 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat
 Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
  We have trapped two large groups. In
  each group one was FeLV+. None of the
  others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was
 returned to the
  colony. The other guy
  was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on
 this list
  had a negative
  living with a group of positives for about 6
 years. He
  never tested
  positive.
  Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the
 cats inside
  and separate. Not
  the vet's decision. Yours.
  L
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat
 Sanctuaries
 
  Have all the other outside cats been
 tested?  How long
  have they been living
  with that group of cats?
 
  We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at
 our house for
  at least 4 years
  now.  She and a small feral colony came
 with the
  house.  Last year I tested
  her best buddy because I thought I might have
 a home for
  him and he was
  negative.  So it really isn't that
 transmissible
  within a healthy adult
  population.
 
  --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
   Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat
 Sanctuaries
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52
 PM
   Hi everyone.  Anyone know of any
 cat
   sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+
 cats.  The mother
  and
   father cats of my kittens are semi-feral
 and not
  fixed.  I
   went to the vet today to make
 appointments to get them
  fixed
   and they want me to euthanize them
 instead to protect
  other
   cats.  However, I don't think I can
 do that 

Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Sharyl
Thankfully she is safe now.
Bless you for saving her a second time.
Sharyl

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 From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:53 PM
 
 Yes, it was.  I was totally prepared to give this guy
 the benefit of the doubt at first..you know, local politics
 and alllbut it resembled a concentration camp far more
 than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still
 having nightmares.  My little girl came home with a
 respiratory infection, injured eye and significant weight
 loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago. 
 There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but
 every cat there had supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue
 vets that descended on the place.  Even the friendly
 cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just
 breaks.  I don't know what in the world will become of
 Portia nowbut she is safe, warm and loved...I will work
 very hard to get her to where she lets me handle herI am
 already making progressand there is hope.
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard
 battle  Philo
 
 



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Not Eating

2009-12-10 Thread Sharyl
Bugra, some folks seem to have no problems giving their cat a pill.  Some use a 
treat called a Pill Pocket purchased form the vet.  My cats refused to eat the 
Pill Pockets.  I never successfully pilled any of my cats using a pill shooter. 
 They get all their pills crushed, mixed with food and syringed.  Pequita will 
lick her meat baby food of a spoon with her meds mixed in.  That's the best I 
was able to do.

You are definitely not the only person in the world that can't pill a cat.
Sharyl

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 From: Bugrahan Yalvac bugrahanyal...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:55 AM
 Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5
 MG are the pills.
 
 He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.
 
 It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the
 net but those
 cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow
 the pills.
 Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.
 
 Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who
 cannot
 manage to medicate a cat orally?
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net
 wrote:
  What are the pills?
 
  Gary
 
  Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:
 
  Hi, All,
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six
 months ago. A week ago
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I
 took him to the vet
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me
 steroids and antibiotics
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet
 for couple days. He
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for
 few days. However
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I
 tried two times to
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications
 (pills) to a cat?
 
  Thanks,
  Bugra
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

Yes, but you can't imagine the guilt I feel for not being able to take more 
with me...

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:27:17 -0800
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Thankfully she is safe now.
 Bless you for saving her a second time.
 Sharyl
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Chris
Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip,
getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you
realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then we humans are!
Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to
learn-LOL.  You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds
into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me.  Pill
pockets are great -if your cat likes them.  Sneaking a pill in between a
couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just
look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help.  S,
do not feel you are alone.  I suspect each of us has had at least one cat
for whom pilling was a nightmare.  

 

I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure.  Try sneaking small
pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham,
turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause
the cat will catch on after a  couple of times.  

 

Christiane Biagi

 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 

Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.

 

He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.

 

It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those

cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.

Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.

 

Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot

manage to medicate a cat orally?

 

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

 What are the pills?

 

 Gary

 

 Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:

 

 Hi, All,

 

 I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago

 he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet

 and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics

 and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He

 was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However

 for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to

 med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.

 

 Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?

 

 Thanks,

 Bugra

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane

2009-12-10 Thread Beth Noren
Thank you Diane.  He had a nice last day, ate a little, begged for a piece
of bread crust from my sandwich, batted it around a couple of times and then
fetched it and dropped it at my feet so I would throw it.  Sat with his
brothers and sisters while they played with a string my mom dangled at them.
 He was so good I started panicking that it wasn't time, but once his little
bit of energy was used up he lay back down on the steps and was breathing
heavy, lots of side movement and seemed uncomfortable.  I decided to keep
our afternoon appointment.  They left us alone for a few minutes in the exam
room, I had his favorite nursing blanket on my lap, but he was nervous and
wanted to jump down.  I put my arm under the blanket and  bunched it up into
a little mound under his front paws, he lay right down, stretched his arms
right out with all his toes extended and kneading away, and stated suckling
face down in the material.  It was like he was doing all his favorite things
one last time to please me...When he was done the vet came in, we layed his
blanket on the table, it was a very peaceful passing.  His stuck his little
tongue out at us as he passed, which seemed kind of appropriate.  I am so
grateful for all the kind people on this list who gave me such good advice
when he was a kitten, I am going to stay a member.

Thank you to everyone for your help and support over the past few years, and
hugs to your furbabies,
Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, and Angel Will Feral

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 Beth, I remember Will, and I'm so sorry he had to go to the Bridge. Hugs to
 you.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Multi Cat House Protocol

 Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for quite
 some time.  I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a follow-up IFA
 several months later, and vaccinated the negatives.  My plan was only to
 retest if a negative became sick, and this was supported by my vet.  The
 chance that a healthy, adult, vaccinated negative will pick up the disease
 is small, so I felt the funds were better spent on other problems (2 of my
 negs have severe allergies).  I haven't told the list yet, as I just got
 functioning Internet service again today , but I had to help my sweet
 positive boy leave this world on November 13th.  I haven't been active on
 the list for some time now, but some folks here may remember Will Feral.
  Lymphoma finally got him, after 3.5 active, happy years.  He is so
 terribly
 missed.  I plan to test my 4 negatives as soon as finances permit, so that
 I
 can comfortably discontinue vaccinating them for FeLV.

 Best wishes,
 Beth

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maria Ianiro mian...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello -
 
  For those of you with multi-cat households, I was wondering what your
  vet has recommended in terms of re-testing for FELV in the negative
  cat.
 
  I have 1 positive and 1 negative that have been living together for
  over a year now.  I have been advised to re-test the negative cat once
  a year for FELV and give the negative cat the FELV combo shot once a
  year.
 
  Thank you
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

Beth, thank you for sharing Will's last day with usas we share the pain of 
loss with you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Belinda Sauro

   Eating litter is usually a sign of anemia, was he checked for that?

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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
GET A NEW VET!  an informed vet will give you options.  mine did and my 2 
positive girls are doing just fine.  just keep anyone who is negative 
vacinnated, give them love, good food and keep stress low. 

 Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone.  Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats.  
 The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed.  I 
 went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me 
 to euthanize them instead to protect other cats.  However, I don't think I 
 can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to 
 get sick.  Any info would be appreciated!  Thanks - Crystal
 
 
   
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: RE: feral cats FW: Ask PETA a Question Form

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
they sent a request before they answered my question.

 Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Interesting response Dorlis.  Almost makes them sound human.  I am amazed at 
 how folks can write or say one thing and do the very opposite.  The vet at 
 the PETA SNIP van said PETA insisted all feral FeLV and FIV positives be 
 killed even if they were going to be sanctuaried inside.  

I'm guessing the next e-mail you get from them will be a request for money. 
Thanks for writing them.
Sharyl

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 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: RE: feral cats FW: Ask PETA a Question Form
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:11 AM
 got an answer from PETA, here it
 is.  dorlis
  Subject: RE: feral cats FW: Ask PETA a Question Form
  Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:56:32 -0500
  From: Karen Dickerson kar...@petaf.org
  To: dlg...@windstream.net
  
  Dear Dorlis,
  
   
  
  Thank you for contacting PETA. We appreciate the
 opportunity to address your returns. 
  
   
  
  We at PETA do not regard euthanasia as a solution to
 overpopulation but rather as a tragic necessity given the
 present crisis. We know from our experience with helping
 homeless animals that there is such a thing as a fate worse
 than death. We have seen animals suffering from injury and
 disease with no veterinary care, corpses of animals who have
 been left to starve, and the remains of cats who have been
 used as bait in dog-fighting rings. Every winter, we see
 dogs shivering and trying to curl themselves into the
 tiniest balls to keep warm; every summer, we see them with
 their tongues dragging, panting in a desperate effort to
 lower their body temperatures, suffering from excessive heat
 and insufficient water supplies. 
  
   
  
  Our Community Animal Project (CAP) rescues homeless
 animals from environmental dangers, as well as from cruel
 humans. They crawl through sewers, poke through junkyards,
 climb trees, and dodge traffic in order to reach animals in
 danger. During floods and storms, they are out saving lives
 at all hours. They also rescue animal companions from
 abusive homes, often encountering resistance from
 obstructive landlords and angry guardians as they try to
 coax terrified, abandoned, and neglected animals to safety.
 Our agents travel to the worst neighborhoods to deliver
 food, doghouses, and bedding to pit bulls who have never
 known a kind word or touch, dogs who―assuming that CAP
 members, like all the other humans they have known, have
 come to do them harm―greet them with snapping jaws in
 defense of the tiny patches of muddy earth that they call
 home. 
  
   
  
  We push to have animal abusers prosecuted and their
 animal victims removed from their custody, but sometimes the
 best we can do is administer the only true solution to the
 overpopulation crisis: spaying and neutering as many animals
 as we can so as to prevent future litters of vulnerable,
 unwanted animals. Sterilization is the best way to lessen
 animal suffering―and we know this because we have seen
 what happens to the offspring of intact animal companions. 
  
   
  
  PETA does not operate a shelter, but we do take in the
 animals nobody wants―feral cat colonies descended from
 abandoned, unaltered cat companions, now wild and often
 infected with deadly, ravaging diseases like feline AIDS and
 leukemia; stray dogs so disfigured by mange that they are
 almost no longer recognizable as canines; litters of
 parvo-infected puppies, plagued with diarrhea and vomiting,
 literally dehydrating to death; and backyard dogs who have
 known only chains, beatings, and neglect and have gone mad
 because of it. 
  
   
  
  Some of the animals we take in are lost companions
 with loving families who miss them; we are always happy to
 return such animals to their homes. We have also managed to
 catch and return some highly elusive animals other agencies
 had given up on. While some of the healthy, adoptable
 homeless animals we rescue are fostered in homes (often our
 own) or taken directly to local shelters to await adoption,
 the reality is that thousands of animals are euthanized
 every day across America for lack of good homes. To learn
 more, visit http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/f-nc.asp
 and http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/ga_spay.asp. 
  
   
  
  Although feral cats are fearful of humans, they are
 still domesticated and ill-equipped to survive on their own.
 Feral cats do not die of old age. They are poisoned, shot,
 and tortured by cruel people; they are hit by cars and
 attacked by other animals; and they die of exposure,
 starvation, and highly contagious fatal diseases, such as
 rabies, feline AIDS, feline leukemia, and feline infectious
 peritonitis (FIP). Even highly treatable conditions can be
 deadly for cats who cannot be handled and regularly taken to
 a veterinarian. Minor cuts or puncture wounds can turn 

Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
 lost my first response.  Harley and Dee helped me.  they have discovered the 
curser on the screen and loe t o help mother type.  
hang in there and be patient.  i hve found that it takes anywhere from 6 - 8 
months to socialize a feral much less one that has sufferred any trauma.  just 
give her lots of love.
 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
Yes, it was.  I was totally prepared to give this guy the benefit of the doubt 
at first..you know, local politics and alllbut it resembled a concentration 
camp far more than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still having 
nightmares.  My little girl came home with a respiratory infection, injured eye 
and significant weight loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago.  
There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but every cat there had 
supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue vets that descended on the place.  
Even the friendly cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just breaks.  
I don't know what in the world will become of Portia nowbut she is safe, 
warm and loved...I will work very hard to get her to where she lets me handle 
herI am already making progressand there is hope.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:46:25 -0500
 From: furrygi...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Was that 10th Life? Ok if you wish not to answer, of course.
 
 Thank you for going after your former foster!
 
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of
  my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I
  drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her
  backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw
  with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be
  cautious
  Debbie (COL)
  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
   Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
   From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
   Agreed.
  
   Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to
  visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to
  crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
  
   --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
  
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
We have trapped two large groups. In
each group one was FeLV+. None of the
others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
colony. The other guy
was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
had a negative
living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
never tested
positive.
Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
and separate. Not
the vet's decision. Yours.
L
   
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   
Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
have they been living
with that group of cats?
   
We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
at least 4 years
now. She and a small feral colony came with the
house. Last year I tested
her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
him and he was
negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
within a healthy adult
population.
   
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
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 From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
 Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
 sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
and
 father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
fixed. I
 went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
fixed
 and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
other
 cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
they
 aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
 sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
Crystal




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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
why did they take on so many cats if they were not capable of caring for them?  
are they hoarders?  if i could, i would take in every stray/feral cat and dog 
in my county, but i know i cannt give them the attention and afford food and 
vet bills, so i stick to my limit of 8.  it was 6, but Harley and Dee were 
going to animal control if i did not take them in.  that means they would be 
shot or worse, so of course, i took them.  my buddy fro school calls me sucker. 
 i intended to foster them until the vet helped me find a home for them, tried 
not to name them.  oh well, they do provide a lot of intertainment.  dorlis
 Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Thank you for going back and getting her.
 
 For anyone reading, I know as if anyone here has room, but fyi in hopes of
 spreading the word, there are still I believe around 200 cats needing to be
 placed, and they can be viewed on Petfinder, City of Labella Animal
 Contral...there are ferals needing safe barn homes/relocation, and adoptable
 cats, even declawed cats from what I understand.
 
 http://www.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?offset=25limit=25tmpl=0shelterid=FL708sort=status=preview=1
 
 2009/12/9 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com
 
 
  Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much
  all black cats look alike??  But she was so small and floofy and scared that
  I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet
  accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed.
 
  Debbie (COL)
  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo
 
 
 
   From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
   Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did.
   L
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
   Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
  
   I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of
  my
   feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I
  drove
   down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her
  backlet
   me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own
   eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious
   Debbie (COL)
   Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
  
  
  
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   
Agreed.
   
Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to
   visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to
   crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
   
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
   
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
 We have trapped two large groups. In
 each group one was FeLV+. None of the
 others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
 colony. The other guy
 was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
 had a negative
 living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
 never tested
 positive.
 Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
 and separate. Not
 the vet's decision. Yours.
 L

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
 have they been living
 with that group of cats?

 We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
 at least 4 years
 now. She and a small feral colony came with the
 house. Last year I tested
 her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
 him and he was
 negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
 within a healthy adult
 population.

 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
  Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
  sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
 and
  father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
 

Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
that sounds like a good idea, no more kittens and someone to feed and watch 
over them.

 Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea.  I don't want them to live a 
 horrible life.  Plus all the places I have contacted are full.  I have an 
 appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I 
 have to start trying to catch her.  I am getting a live trap.  Shes friendly 
 but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage.  I am hoping they will keep 
 her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back 
 outside.  I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or 
 the male cats life either.  There are several people that care for them and 
 feed them and its only those two cats that live there.  I think I will just 
 get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do.
  
  
  
  
 ---
  
  
 Frank  Sue Koren
 Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800
 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about 
 two years ago? 
 Sue
 - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my 
 feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove 
 down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet 
 me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes 
 that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo
 
 
 
 
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Agreed.
 
 Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to 
 visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to 
 crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. 
 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
 
  From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
  We have trapped two large groups. In
  each group one was FeLV+. None of the
  others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
  colony. The other guy
  was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
  had a negative
  living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
  never tested
  positive.
  Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
  and separate. Not
  the vet's decision. Yours.
  L
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
  Have all the other outside cats been tested?  How long
  have they been living
  with that group of cats?
 
  We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
  at least 4 years
  now.  She and a small feral colony came with the
  house.  Last year I tested
  her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
  him and he was
  negative.  So it really isn't that transmissible
  within a healthy adult
  population.
 
  --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
   Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
   Hi everyone.  Anyone know of any cat
   sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats.  The mother
  and
   father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
  fixed.  I
   went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
  fixed
   and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
  other
   cats.  However, I don't think I can do that because
  they
   aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
   sick.  Any info would be appreciated!  Thanks -
  Crystal
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Crystal Proper


Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week.  
Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so 
there won't be anyone there to feed them daily.  My husband and I go down there 
every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours 
away.  I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore.  They arent 
completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps and 
runs to us as soon as he sees us.

-




   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
   Agreed.
  
   Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to
  visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to
  crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
  
   --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
  
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
We have trapped two large groups. In
each group one was FeLV+. None of the
others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
colony. The other guy
was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
had a negative
living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
never tested
positive.
Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
and separate. Not
the vet's decision. Yours.
L
   
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   
Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
have they been living
with that group of cats?
   
We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
at least 4 years
now. She and a small feral colony came with the
house. Last year I tested
her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
him and he was
negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
within a healthy adult
population.
   
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
wrote:
   
 From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
 Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
 sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
and
 father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
fixed. I
 went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
fixed
 and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
other
 cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
they
 aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
 sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
Crystal




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Re: [Felvtalk] Multi Cat House Protocol

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
my babies are all inside/outside cats and my vet doesn't see any reason to 
retest any of the negatives once they test negative.  dorlis
 Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for quite
 some time.  I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a follow-up IFA
 several months later, and vaccinated the negatives.  My plan was only to
 retest if a negative became sick, and this was supported by my vet.  The
 chance that a healthy, adult, vaccinated negative will pick up the disease
 is small, so I felt the funds were better spent on other problems (2 of my
 negs have severe allergies).  I haven't told the list yet, as I just got
 functioning Internet service again today , but I had to help my sweet
 positive boy leave this world on November 13th.  I haven't been active on
 the list for some time now, but some folks here may remember Will Feral.
  Lymphoma finally got him, after 3.5 active, happy years.  He is so terribly
 missed.  I plan to test my 4 negatives as soon as finances permit, so that I
 can comfortably discontinue vaccinating them for FeLV.
 
 Best wishes,
 Beth
 
 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maria Ianiro mian...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello -
 
  For those of you with multi-cat households, I was wondering what your
  vet has recommended in terms of re-testing for FELV in the negative
  cat.
 
  I have 1 positive and 1 negative that have been living together for
  over a year now.  I have been advised to re-test the negative cat once
  a year for FELV and give the negative cat the FELV combo shot once a
  year.
 
  Thank you
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
my Snuggles was healthy outside of infection, not stressed, but he did not like 
pills.  my only solution was to take him to the vet every day.  at home, he 
tried to kill me every time i gave him a pill.  at the vet's he was an angel.  
savved me a few trips to the hospital for transfusions.  dorlis
 Bugrahan Yalvac bugrahanyal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.
 
 He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.
 
 It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those
 cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.
 Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.
 
 Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot
 manage to medicate a cat orally?
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
  What are the pills?
 
  Gary
 
  Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:
 
  Hi, All,
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
join the group.  dorlis
 Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Yes, but you can't imagine the guilt I feel for not being able to take more 
 with me...
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo
 
 
  
  Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:27:17 -0800
  From: cline...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  
  Thankfully she is safe now.
  Bless you for saving her a second time.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane

2009-12-10 Thread dlgegg
i wasn't on the list in Will's time, but he sounds like a sweet boy.  but hten, 
they are all sweet and we quickly learn to love them and it hurts to let them 
go.  our only consolation is to know we gave them love and a good home while 
they were with us.  prayers for you.  dorlis
 Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Thank you Diane.  He had a nice last day, ate a little, begged for a piece
 of bread crust from my sandwich, batted it around a couple of times and then
 fetched it and dropped it at my feet so I would throw it.  Sat with his
 brothers and sisters while they played with a string my mom dangled at them.
  He was so good I started panicking that it wasn't time, but once his little
 bit of energy was used up he lay back down on the steps and was breathing
 heavy, lots of side movement and seemed uncomfortable.  I decided to keep
 our afternoon appointment.  They left us alone for a few minutes in the exam
 room, I had his favorite nursing blanket on my lap, but he was nervous and
 wanted to jump down.  I put my arm under the blanket and  bunched it up into
 a little mound under his front paws, he lay right down, stretched his arms
 right out with all his toes extended and kneading away, and stated suckling
 face down in the material.  It was like he was doing all his favorite things
 one last time to please me...When he was done the vet came in, we layed his
 blanket on the table, it was a very peaceful passing.  His stuck his little
 tongue out at us as he passed, which seemed kind of appropriate.  I am so
 grateful for all the kind people on this list who gave me such good advice
 when he was a kitten, I am going to stay a member.
 
 Thank you to everyone for your help and support over the past few years, and
 hugs to your furbabies,
 Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, and Angel Will Feral
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt 
 drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote:
 
  Beth, I remember Will, and I'm so sorry he had to go to the Bridge. Hugs to
  you.
 
  Diane R.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:09 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Multi Cat House Protocol
 
  Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for quite
  some time.  I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a follow-up IFA
  several months later, and vaccinated the negatives.  My plan was only to
  retest if a negative became sick, and this was supported by my vet.  The
  chance that a healthy, adult, vaccinated negative will pick up the disease
  is small, so I felt the funds were better spent on other problems (2 of my
  negs have severe allergies).  I haven't told the list yet, as I just got
  functioning Internet service again today , but I had to help my sweet
  positive boy leave this world on November 13th.  I haven't been active on
  the list for some time now, but some folks here may remember Will Feral.
   Lymphoma finally got him, after 3.5 active, happy years.  He is so
  terribly
  missed.  I plan to test my 4 negatives as soon as finances permit, so that
  I
  can comfortably discontinue vaccinating them for FeLV.
 
  Best wishes,
  Beth
 
  On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maria Ianiro mian...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello -
  
   For those of you with multi-cat households, I was wondering what your
   vet has recommended in terms of re-testing for FELV in the negative
   cat.
  
   I have 1 positive and 1 negative that have been living together for
   over a year now.  I have been advised to re-test the negative cat once
   a year for FELV and give the negative cat the FELV combo shot once a
   year.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very
mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In
contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets
sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain
consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into
carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need
life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I
suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal
option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and
he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. 

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip,
getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you
realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then we humans are!
Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to
learn-LOL.  You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds
into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me.  Pill
pockets are great -if your cat likes them.  Sneaking a pill in between a
couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just
look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help.  S,
do not feel you are alone.  I suspect each of us has had at least one cat
for whom pilling was a nightmare.  

 

I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure.  Try sneaking small
pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham,
turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause
the cat will catch on after a  couple of times.  

 

Christiane Biagi

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 

Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.

 

He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.

 

It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those

cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.

Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.

 

Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot

manage to medicate a cat orally?

 

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

 What are the pills?

 

 Gary

 

 Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:

 

 Hi, All,

 

 I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago

 he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the 
 vet

 and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics

 and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He

 was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However

 for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to

 med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.

 

 Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?

 

 Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane

2009-12-10 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
It sounds like he had a great last day, and a good passing. Gentlest of
Bridge vibes to Will.

Diane R. 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane

Thank you Diane.  He had a nice last day, ate a little, begged for a piece
of bread crust from my sandwich, batted it around a couple of times and then
fetched it and dropped it at my feet so I would throw it.  Sat with his
brothers and sisters while they played with a string my mom dangled at them.
 He was so good I started panicking that it wasn't time, but once his little
bit of energy was used up he lay back down on the steps and was breathing
heavy, lots of side movement and seemed uncomfortable.  I decided to keep
our afternoon appointment.  They left us alone for a few minutes in the exam
room, I had his favorite nursing blanket on my lap, but he was nervous and
wanted to jump down.  I put my arm under the blanket and  bunched it up into
a little mound under his front paws, he lay right down, stretched his arms
right out with all his toes extended and kneading away, and stated suckling
face down in the material.  It was like he was doing all his favorite things
one last time to please me...When he was done the vet came in, we layed his
blanket on the table, it was a very peaceful passing.  His stuck his little
tongue out at us as he passed, which seemed kind of appropriate.  I am so
grateful for all the kind people on this list who gave me such good advice
when he was a kitten, I am going to stay a member.

Thank you to everyone for your help and support over the past few years, and
hugs to your furbabies, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, and Angel Will
Feral

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt
drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 Beth, I remember Will, and I'm so sorry he had to go to the Bridge. 
 Hugs to you.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Multi Cat House Protocol

 Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for 
 quite some time.  I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a 
 follow-up IFA several months later, and vaccinated the negatives.  My 
 plan was only to retest if a negative became sick, and this was 
 supported by my vet.  The chance that a healthy, adult, vaccinated 
 negative will pick up the disease is small, so I felt the funds were 
 better spent on other problems (2 of my negs have severe allergies).  
 I haven't told the list yet, as I just got functioning Internet 
 service again today , but I had to help my sweet positive boy leave 
 this world on November 13th.  I haven't been active on the list for some
time now, but some folks here may remember Will Feral.
  Lymphoma finally got him, after 3.5 active, happy years.  He is so 
 terribly missed.  I plan to test my 4 negatives as soon as finances 
 permit, so that I can comfortably discontinue vaccinating them for 
 FeLV.

 Best wishes,
 Beth

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maria Ianiro mian...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello -
 
  For those of you with multi-cat households, I was wondering what 
  your vet has recommended in terms of re-testing for FELV in the 
  negative cat.
 
  I have 1 positive and 1 negative that have been living together for 
  over a year now.  I have been advised to re-test the negative cat 
  once a year for FELV and give the negative cat the FELV combo shot 
  once a year.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

If they can be handled, they can be adopted...they are NOT feral.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:27:36 -0800
 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week.  
 Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there 
 won't be anyone there to feed them daily.  My husband and I go down there 
 every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours 
 away.  I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore.  They 
 arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps 
 and runs to us as soon as he sees us.
 
 -
 
 
 
 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   
Agreed.
   
Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to
   visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to
   crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
   
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
   
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
 We have trapped two large groups. In
 each group one was FeLV+. None of the
 others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
 colony. The other guy
 was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
 had a negative
 living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
 never tested
 positive.
 Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
 and separate. Not
 the vet's decision. Yours.
 L

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
 have they been living
 with that group of cats?

 We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
 at least 4 years
 now. She and a small feral colony came with the
 house. Last year I tested
 her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
 him and he was
 negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
 within a healthy adult
 population.

 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
  Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
  sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
 and
  father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
 fixed. I
  went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
 fixed
  and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
 other
  cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
 they
  aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
  sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Crystal Proper
Oh okay.  Yes, they like us to pet them, just not picked up.  I have 
also contacted a couple FeLV+ in PA and NJ..one said they were full...waiting 
on some others responses.  I will drive up to 5 hours away if I have too for a 
good home for them...sooner the better because I am 31 weeks pregnant.



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From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:51:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries


If they can be handled, they can be adopted...they are NOT feral.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo



 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:27:36 -0800
 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week.  
 Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there 
 won't be anyone there to feed them daily.  My husband and I go down there 
 every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours 
 away.  I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore.  They 
 arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps 
 and runs to us as soon as he sees us.
 
 -
 
 
 
 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
   
Agreed.
   
Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to
   visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to
   crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect.
   
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
   
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM
 We have trapped two large groups. In
 each group one was FeLV+. None of the
 others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the
 colony. The other guy
 was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list
 had a negative
 living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He
 never tested
 positive.
 Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside
 and separate. Not
 the vet's decision. Yours.
 L

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long
 have they been living
 with that group of cats?

 We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for
 at least 4 years
 now. She and a small feral colony came with the
 house. Last year I tested
 her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for
 him and he was
 negative. So it really isn't that transmissible
 within a healthy adult
 population.

 --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM
  Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat
  sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother
 and
  father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not
 fixed. I
  went to the vet today to make appointments to get them
 fixed
  and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect
 other
  cats. However, I don't think I can do that because
 they
  aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get
  sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks -
 Crystal
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Debbie Bates

OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has 
had a hellion!  But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!!

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very
 mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In
 contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets
 sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain
 consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into
 carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need
 life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I
 suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal
 option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and
 he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. 
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip,
 getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you
 realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then we humans are!
 Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to
 learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds
 into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill
 pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a
 couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just
 look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S,
 do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat
 for whom pilling was a nightmare. 
 
 
 
 I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small
 pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham,
 turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause
 the cat will catch on after a couple of times. 
 
 
 
 Christiane Biagi
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.
 
 
 
 He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.
 
 
 
 It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those
 
 cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.
 
 Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.
 
 
 
 Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot
 
 manage to medicate a cat orally?
 
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
 
  What are the pills?
 
  
 
  Gary
 
  
 
  Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:
 
  
 
  Hi, All,
 
  
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago
 
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the 
  vet
 
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics
 
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He
 
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However
 
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to
 
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
 
  
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bugra
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Sharyl
Funny I said the same thing when my sweet Albert was dx with severe periodontal 
disease, advanced CRF, went into CHF and was dx with severe HCM all within 30 
days.  Thank goodness it wasn't his sister Pequita.  She'd never tolerate 
getting sub q fluids let alone all the pills.  

Of course we immediately took her in for a senior wellness check and she was dx 
with stage 1 CRF.  She has been getting fluids for 2 yrs now and is a little 
angel.  Pills are another issue.  I have yet to successfully pill her.  She 
either gets liquid meds or I crush them and put them in meat baby food.  They 
do surprise you once in a while.  She just turned 17 and still isn't a lap 
kitty.  Does like to lay on my feet.
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:37 PM
 We are so grateful that our one cat
 who needs meds, Luc, is very
 mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no
 trouble. In
 contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats,
 Tribble, never gets
 sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we
 suspect his brain
 consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a
 cuddling session into
 carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You
 better never need
 life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice
 knowing you. (I
 suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for
 a transdermal
 option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc
 here and there and
 he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of
 claws. 
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a
 carrier for vet trip,
 getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are
 the times you
 realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined
 then we humans are!
 Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be
 determined for us not to
 learn-LOL.  You can try a compounding pharmacy that
 will mix up the meds
 into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked
 for me.  Pill
 pockets are great -if your cat likes them.  Sneaking a
 pill in between a
 couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on
 and then will just
 look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that
 will help.  S,
 do not feel you are alone.  I suspect each of us has
 had at least one cat
 for whom pilling was a nightmare.  
 
  



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Cougar Clan
Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice,  
thick blanket helps.  It may or may not calm the cat but it offers  
protection for the person.

On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote:



OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only  
one who has had a hellion!  But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!!


Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo




From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very
mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In
contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never  
gets
sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect  
his brain
consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling  
session into
carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never  
need
life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing  
you. (I
suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a  
transdermal
option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and  
there and

he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for  
vet trip,
getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the  
times you
realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then we humans  
are!
Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us  
not to
learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the  
meds
into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me.  
Pill
pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in  
between a
couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then  
will just
look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help.  
S,
do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least  
one cat

for whom pilling was a nightmare.



I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking  
small
pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty  
likes-ham,
turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing  
it cause

the cat will catch on after a couple of times.



Christiane Biagi



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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan  
Yalvac

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries



Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.



He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.



It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but  
those


cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.

Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.



Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot

manage to medicate a cat orally?



On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net  
wrote:



What are the pills?







Gary







Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:







Hi, All,






I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week  
ago



he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the
vet


and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and  
antibiotics


and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days.  
He


was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days.  
However


for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two  
times to



med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.







Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?







Thanks,



Bugra



















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[Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-10 Thread LauraM
As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had 
planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, 
there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug 
into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my 
options? I was excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now 
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
any suggestions. Thanks.
Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-10 Thread Jane Lyons
I'm getting it from a friend (a former list member in NM who is  
getting it from her vet and sending it to me). Can you ask someone  
out of state to
order it for you and send it to you directly. I cannot imagine that  
you would be penalized for excepting a package from out of state? It  
really

sounds like gestapo tactics. not allowing it in the state.

Good luck getting and using it!
Jane
On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:01 PM, LauraM wrote:

As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and  
I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet  
tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA  
state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for  
anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was  
excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now  
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon  
with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic,  
but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much  
time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Tribble has been a real learning experience, and there have been many times
we've thought how much easier it would be for the other cats if he weren't
in the mix, because he's often an aggressive little bully. But we would no
sooner part with him than our own noses, and once you understand him he can
be endearing (as long as you don't look away and miss the nanosecond when
your skritches become annoying...)

Diane R. 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries


OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who
has had a hellion!  But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!!

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very 
 mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In 
 contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never 
 gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect 
 his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a 
 cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, 
 You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it 
 was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll 
 be praying for a transdermal
 option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and 
 there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of
claws.
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet 
 trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the 
 times you realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then we
humans are!
 Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us 
 not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up 
 the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked 
 for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a 
 pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they 
 catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds 
 thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect 
 each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare.
 
 
 
 I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking 
 small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty 
 likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep 
 changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times.
 
 
 
 Christiane Biagi
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan 
 Yalvac
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
 
 
 
 Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.
 
 
 
 He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.
 
 
 
 It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those
 
 cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.
 
 Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.
 
 
 
 Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot
 
 manage to medicate a cat orally?
 
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
 
  What are the pills?
 
  
 
  Gary
 
  
 
  Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:
 
  
 
  Hi, All,
 
  
 
  I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week 
  ago
 
  he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the 
  vet
 
  and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and 
  antibiotics
 
  and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. 
  He
 
  was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. 
  However
 
  for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times 
  to
 
  med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.
 
  
 
  Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?
 
  
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bugra
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-10 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
We do this, but invariably Luc manages to wiggle, Houdini-like, free at
least once during every feeding session.

Diane R.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick
blanket helps.  It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for
the person.
On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote:


 OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only 
 one who has had a hellion!  But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!!

 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo



 From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very 
 mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In 
 contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never 
 gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we 
 suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn 
 a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell 
 him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you 
 do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need 
 meds we'll be praying for a transdermal
 option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and 
 there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of 
 claws.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

 Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet 
 trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the 
 times you realize that they're a lot smarter  more determined then 
 we humans are!
 Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us 
 not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up 
 the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked 
 for me.
 Pill
 pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between 
 a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then 
 will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that 
 will help.
 S,
 do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one 
 cat for whom pilling was a nightmare.



 I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking 
 small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the 
 kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have 
 to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of 
 times.



 Christiane Biagi



 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan 
 Yalvac
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries



 Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills.



 He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis.



 It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but 
 those

 cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills.

 Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything.



 Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot

 manage to medicate a cat orally?



 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net
 wrote:

 What are the pills?



 Gary



 Bugrahan Yalvac wrote:



 Hi, All,



 I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week 
 ago

 he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the 
 vet

 and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and 
 antibiotics

 and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days.  
 He

 was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days.  
 However

 for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times 
 to

 med him through his mount, it didn't work at all.



 Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat?



 Thanks,

 Bugra









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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-10 Thread Gary

How odd.  Has your vet spoken to Imulan about this problem?

There isn't anything I know for sure that helps a lot other than a good 
diet and low stress.  There are many things that people use with varying 
success.  I just started using Acemannan and had success turning to FeLV 
positive anemic kittens into what appears to be pretty healthy positive 
cats.  You already know about Interferon.  Best Friends uses Immuno 
Regulin (now available as EqStim) .5 ml sub-q once a month on their 
positives.  I have used Moducare and there is Transfer Factor and 
several others.  There is oral vitamin C using Mega C.


Does anything work all the time on every cat?  I doubt it and we may be 
throwing our money away most of the time, who knows?  Dr. Belfield 
claims he cured every positive cat that came through his practice of 30 
years with his Mega C.  My cats don't seem to like it so I haven't 
figured out how to dose them with enough to experiment with that.


Gary

LauraM wrote:

As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to 
start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a 
problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at 
this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited 
 hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
any suggestions. Thanks.
Laura


  


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