Re: [Felvtalk] The Heavens Cried for Max Today
Sharyl, bless you for giving these babies a chance to know love...and Godspeed, little Max. Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Whimsy - twitching/jerking
My dear Whimsy, little FeLV positive boy, is still in our yard. You might recall I was trying to work on bringing him to our sunroom. He developed a terrible ringworm (99% sure) which delayed that. On the day I was to bring him in for a check up and treatment for ringworm (he used to be feral but now sits on my lap etc, but still needs sedation at vet) my indoor kitties had a terrible outbreak of calici, and we are still dealing with it. We have immune suppressed kitties inside and to protect Whimsy I had to stop touching him (even w/ my usual gloves). I know it hurt his feelings but I still visited him. He has been energectic, bouncy, hungry, fun, etc. Tonight he showed up, won't eat, is twitching, running, then laying down and twitching and jerking and chewing on his toes. He is coming up to all our windows and meowing (he never did that, he still was a bit cagey). My boyfriend figured I got the calici from him and brought it in, so I can't interact with him. I keep telling him to hang in there and we'll figure it out we just need time. But this twitching? And if he won't eat? Even if I suited up he's not a cat who can be syringe fed. I'm not used to considering 'no options'. Is this the end? :( Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] PS Whimsy - twitching/jerking
I should also mention that he seems frantic too, and runs in bursts, jumps on fences, but nearly falls off. He's been running in circles in the yard. He also just let out a bunch of sneezes. I hope I didn't give him what my guys have, this has been a horrible time. I always touched him w/ gloves, tied my hair back, etc. Is my only option??I was so hoping we'd have him in during the Summer. He's about 1 /12 yrs old. We cannot bring him in, all the extra spots are quarantined and I won't be allowed and I don't own the house and I understand wanted to protect the others (who nearly died this week - needed fluids, temps over 105, and we are still closely watching our FIV/HCM boy and lupus/HCM boy. This seems too cruel. He needs me now to hold him and I can't. I assume he will go down hill quickly? I want to know he doesn't get so confused that he runs off and gets hurt or attacked by a coyote (we had our first in the yard the other day) Coming to grips with the fact that this is the first one I can't do everything for is very difficult. Shannon --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: Whimsy - twitching/jerking To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 5:57 PM My dear Whimsy, little FeLV positive boy, is still in our yard. You might recall I was trying to work on bringing him to our sunroom. He developed a terrible ringworm (99% sure) which delayed that. On the day I was to bring him in for a check up and treatment for ringworm (he used to be feral but now sits on my lap etc, but still needs sedation at vet) my indoor kitties had a terrible outbreak of calici, and we are still dealing with it. We have immune suppressed kitties inside and to protect Whimsy I had to stop touching him (even w/ my usual gloves). I know it hurt his feelings but I still visited him. He has been energectic, bouncy, hungry, fun, etc. Tonight he showed up, won't eat, is twitching, running, then laying down and twitching and jerking and chewing on his toes. He is coming up to all our windows and meowing (he never did that, he still was a bit cagey). My boyfriend figured I got the calici from him and brought it in, so I can't interact with him. I keep telling him to hang in there and we'll figure it out we just need time. But this twitching? And if he won't eat? Even if I suited up he's not a cat who can be syringe fed. I'm not used to considering 'no options'. Is this the end? :( Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Double pos in TX
Hello Everyone, It's been a long time since I've been active on the list so I don't know who might be able to help this little girl. Someone forwarded me the following asking if I would post it to the list. I hope all is well with you and your babies, Nina. My name is Arthur Westbrook and I am the Operations Manager at the Humane Society of El Paso (email: awestbr...@hselpaso.org). I would like to inquire if maybe you would know of any FELV cat rescues in the Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona areas. We have a 2 year old female cat who tested positive for both FELV and FIV she is really sweet and loving, if you have any information that may help me out it would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] scissors cut is getting stitched tomorrow
This seems kind of trivial but in light of the recent emails I'm a little scared. Mewey, our FeLV little girl, who I accidentally cut while digging out a mat, is getting the cut stitched up tomorrow morning under anesthesia. I would appreciate your good thoughts and prayers for her. My prayers go out to all of you who are hurting and struggling. You don't know how much good you have done-really. The amount of knowledge you all have is amazing. All of your kittens are lucky to have spent any time with you, even if it was short. I really mean that. Please don't feel that you let them down because you didn't. Thank God they weren't with me! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] scissors cut is getting stitched tomorrow
Thoughts and prayers for Mewey! Good plan. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Linda Sollberger Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] scissors cut is getting stitched tomorrow This seems kind of trivial but in light of the recent emails I'm a little scared. Mewey, our FeLV little girl, who I accidentally cut while digging out a mat, is getting the cut stitched up tomorrow morning under anesthesia. I would appreciate your good thoughts and prayers for her. My prayers go out to all of you who are hurting and struggling. You don't know how much good you have done-really. The amount of knowledge you all have is amazing. All of your kittens are lucky to have spent any time with you, even if it was short. I really mean that. Please don't feel that you let them down because you didn't. Thank God they weren't with me! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - twitching/jerking
Can't be sure where the calici came from. Can't you bring him inside and put him in a kennel and cover with a towel? He obviously needs help and is asking you to help him. Or put him in a car or garage. I have a friend who takes in kitties who need help and puts them in a carrier with towel over. Can you get him to a vet tonight or tomorrow? This cat needs your help. Please let go of your fear and help him. My cat gets crazy from allergies. It could be an easy treatable thing. I would not write him off. I couldn't stand seeing someone suffering like this. Please help him. Cats go and hide if they are dying. He is there, begging for your help. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy - twitching/jerking My dear Whimsy, little FeLV positive boy, is still in our yard. You might recall I was trying to work on bringing him to our sunroom. He developed a terrible ringworm (99% sure) which delayed that. On the day I was to bring him in for a check up and treatment for ringworm (he used to be feral but now sits on my lap etc, but still needs sedation at vet) my indoor kitties had a terrible outbreak of calici, and we are still dealing with it. We have immune suppressed kitties inside and to protect Whimsy I had to stop touching him (even w/ my usual gloves). I know it hurt his feelings but I still visited him. He has been energectic, bouncy, hungry, fun, etc. Tonight he showed up, won't eat, is twitching, running, then laying down and twitching and jerking and chewing on his toes. He is coming up to all our windows and meowing (he never did that, he still was a bit cagey). My boyfriend figured I got the calici from him and brought it in, so I can't interact with him. I keep telling him to hang in there and we'll figure it out we just need time. But this twitching? And if he won't eat? Even if I suited up he's not a cat who can be syringe fed. I'm not used to considering 'no options'. Is this the end? :( Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Or PS Whimsy - twitching/jerking
Or if he got into poison of some kind, time is of the essence and could mean the difference between life and death for this kitty. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] PS Whimsy - twitching/jerking I should also mention that he seems frantic too, and runs in bursts, jumps on fences, but nearly falls off. He's been running in circles in the yard. He also just let out a bunch of sneezes. I hope I didn't give him what my guys have, this has been a horrible time. I always touched him w/ gloves, tied my hair back, etc. Is my only option??I was so hoping we'd have him in during the Summer. He's about 1 /12 yrs old. We cannot bring him in, all the extra spots are quarantined and I won't be allowed and I don't own the house and I understand wanted to protect the others (who nearly died this week - needed fluids, temps over 105, and we are still closely watching our FIV/HCM boy and lupus/HCM boy. This seems too cruel. He needs me now to hold him and I can't. I assume he will go down hill quickly? I want to know he doesn't get so confused that he runs off and gets hurt or attacked by a coyote (we had our first in the yard the other day) Coming to grips with the fact that this is the first one I can't do everything for is very difficult. Shannon --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: Whimsy - twitching/jerking To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 5:57 PM My dear Whimsy, little FeLV positive boy, is still in our yard. You might recall I was trying to work on bringing him to our sunroom. He developed a terrible ringworm (99% sure) which delayed that. On the day I was to bring him in for a check up and treatment for ringworm (he used to be feral but now sits on my lap etc, but still needs sedation at vet) my indoor kitties had a terrible outbreak of calici, and we are still dealing with it. We have immune suppressed kitties inside and to protect Whimsy I had to stop touching him (even w/ my usual gloves). I know it hurt his feelings but I still visited him. He has been energectic, bouncy, hungry, fun, etc. Tonight he showed up, won't eat, is twitching, running, then laying down and twitching and jerking and chewing on his toes. He is coming up to all our windows and meowing (he never did that, he still was a bit cagey). My boyfriend figured I got the calici from him and brought it in, so I can't interact with him. I keep telling him to hang in there and we'll figure it out we just need time. But this twitching? And if he won't eat? Even if I suited up he's not a cat who can be syringe fed. I'm not used to considering 'no options'. Is this the end? :( Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy has been poisoned...I think
I found this on search of twitching anorexic cat. PLEASE HELP HIM NOW. Please get him safely inside and to a vet asap. His life depends on your intervention. Insecticide Toxicity in Cats Organophosphate and Carbamate Toxicity Areas that are geographically prone to heavy flea and tick infestations tend to use many different forms of insecticide (e.g., organophosphates and carbamates). But exposure to insecticides -- especially after heavy or repeated applications of the chemicals -- may be toxic to cats. These forms of insecticide poisoning affect both dogs and cats. If you would like to learn more about how it affects dogs please this page in the PetMD health library. Symptoms and Types Cats exposed to toxic chemicals may not exhibit all of the signs of poisoning. In fact, sometimes insecticides will cause the opposite of these symptoms instead, but there will usually be some indication that the cat is not well. If you suspect that your pet is unwell because of exposure to insecticides, you will need to remove your cat from the toxic environment, or cease using the insecticides, and seek medical attention for it before the condition becomes dire. The following are some of the symptoms of toxic poisoning: Fever Vomiting Diarrhea Anorexia Depression Seizures Muscle tremors Hypersalivation Constricted pupils Increased heart rate Lack of coordination (i.e., trouble walking) Respiratory failure (e.g., trouble breathing) Toxic levels of carbamate insecticides like methomyl and carbofuran can cause seizures and respiratory arrest in your dog. Organophosphate toxicity, meanwhile, may lead to chronic anorexia, muscle weakness and muscle twitching which may last for days or even weeks. Someorganophosphate insecticides commonly used include coumaphos, cyothioate, diazinon, fampfhur, fention, phosmet, and tetrachlorvinphos. This same kind of poisoning can occur with agricultural, lawn and garden insecticide products. Organophosphate types of these products are acephate, chlorpyrifos, diazinon, disulfoton, fonofos, malathion, parathion and terbufos. Carbamate types of these products are carbofuran and methomyl. This same kind of poisoning can occur with agricultural, lawn and garden insecticide products. Organophosphate types of these products are acephate, chlorpyrifos (which is especially toxic to cats), diazinon, disulfoton, fonofos, malathion, parathion and terbufos. Carbamate types of these products are carbofuran and methomyl. Organophosphate and carbamate insecticides inhibit cholinesterases and acetylcholinesterase, essential enzymes in the body. Cholinesterases are enzymes which break down acetylcholine, which is a neurotransmitter. Consequently, acetylcholine remains attached to the postsynaptic receptors of the neurons causing continuous, unending nervous transmission to nervous tissue, organs and muscles (smooth and skeletal). This causes seizures and shaking. Causes Toxicity can occur due to the overuse, misuse, or use of multiple cholinesterase-inhibiting insecticides; overexposure to insecticides in the surrounding home environment; the misuse of organophosphate insecticides in cats (e.g., organophosphate-containing dips labeled for dogs only, inappropriately applied to cats); or the intentional application of house or yard insecticides on cats. Diagnosis If your cat has been diagnosed as having toxic levels of insecticide in its system, your veterinarian will immediately stabilize and decontaminate your pet. Your veterinarian will also administer an antidotal treatment to your cat. You will need to give a thorough history of your cat's health, onset of symptoms, and possible incidents that might have preceded this condition. If you know what type of toxin your pet was exposed to, or you have a sample of it, you should take a sample with you so that your doctor can better treat the poisoning. Your veterinarian will then send a sample of whole blood to a laboratory experienced in handling animal samples. A positive result is confirmed when cholinesterase in the blood is less than 25 percent of normal levels. Treatment Depending on how long it has been since your cat ingested the toxin (if exposure was via ingestion), you veterinarian may induce vomiting for your pet. Your doctor may also wash out its stomach with a tube (lavage), and then give it activated charcoal to detoxify and neutralize any remaining insecticide. Antidotal treatments specific to the toxin will also be given to your pet. Further treatment may include an oxygen cage if your pet is having trouble breathing, and fluid therapy if your pet has been unable to drink or is anorexic. Cats suffering from seizures will be given anti-seizure medication to stop the seizures. If exposure to the toxin came through the skin, your veterinarian will use specialized wash for removing the residue from the hair and skin of your pet. Living and Management The sooner your cat is treated after being exposed to
Re: [Felvtalk] PS Whimsy - twitching/jerking
Is there no rescue near you that can help him? Do you have any animal friendly friends? Get him in a carrier into a vet ASAP, PLEASE! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:22:21 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] PS Whimsy - twitching/jerking I should also mention that he seems frantic too, and runs in bursts, jumps on fences, but nearly falls off. He's been running in circles in the yard. He also just let out a bunch of sneezes. I hope I didn't give him what my guys have, this has been a horrible time. I always touched him w/ gloves, tied my hair back, etc. Is my only option??I was so hoping we'd have him in during the Summer. He's about 1 /12 yrs old. We cannot bring him in, all the extra spots are quarantined and I won't be allowed and I don't own the house and I understand wanted to protect the others (who nearly died this week - needed fluids, temps over 105, and we are still closely watching our FIV/HCM boy and lupus/HCM boy. This seems too cruel. He needs me now to hold him and I can't. I assume he will go down hill quickly? I want to know he doesn't get so confused that he runs off and gets hurt or attacked by a coyote (we had our first in the yard the other day) Coming to grips with the fact that this is the first one I can't do everything for is very difficult. Shannon --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: Whimsy - twitching/jerking To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 5:57 PM My dear Whimsy, little FeLV positive boy, is still in our yard. You might recall I was trying to work on bringing him to our sunroom. He developed a terrible ringworm (99% sure) which delayed that. On the day I was to bring him in for a check up and treatment for ringworm (he used to be feral but now sits on my lap etc, but still needs sedation at vet) my indoor kitties had a terrible outbreak of calici, and we are still dealing with it. We have immune suppressed kitties inside and to protect Whimsy I had to stop touching him (even w/ my usual gloves). I know it hurt his feelings but I still visited him. He has been energectic, bouncy, hungry, fun, etc. Tonight he showed up, won't eat, is twitching, running, then laying down and twitching and jerking and chewing on his toes. He is coming up to all our windows and meowing (he never did that, he still was a bit cagey). My boyfriend figured I got the calici from him and brought it in, so I can't interact with him. I keep telling him to hang in there and we'll figure it out we just need time. But this twitching? And if he won't eat? Even if I suited up he's not a cat who can be syringe fed. I'm not used to considering 'no options'. Is this the end? :( Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
