[Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread LauraM
OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few 
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really 
made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as disposable 
property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An inconvenience, to be 
tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport that 
must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die there, 
and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our 
animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up. Turns out, it 
was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get hit! - same old 
story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet 
bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it and goes about her 
day. My officer told her, This is your responsibility, not mine - you get that 
cat to a vet. Later on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I 
have a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what 
don't you understand - this is your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE 
HER TO THE VET. 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a crate. 
He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues with his 
teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other stuff. 
I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave her some phone 
numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. 
Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on Tuesday. I 
tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to get her to understand 
that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to 
sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black trash bag 
and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally, she had no money - but if 
you're a good client, chances are your vet will euthanize for free or next to 
nothing; my vet has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had months 
to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of course, 
like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, 
I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to follow 
her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of her, but I need my 
job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this 
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters 
or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about. Someone 
will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after your mistakes, so 
why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens 
last week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They had all gone out 
to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, 
the next time I have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I have 
to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born! Come here on euthanasia 
day and then ask yourself if you should be producing more kittens!
Thanks for letting me vent.
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread Sharyl
Laura, I'm so sorry you've had such a tough day.  I do TNR with feral colonies 
and understand how frustrating it can be.  

You make a difference for these animals.  Please try to focus on the good you 
do when having to deal with so many dimwits.
Sharyl 

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 From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 8:05 PM
 OK, this doesn't have anything to do
 with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few incidents happened
 at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really
 made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society -
 as disposable property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no
 value. An inconvenience, to be tossed aside when necessary.
 First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying
 in her carport that must have been hit by a car. She said,
 We're afraid she's going to die there, and she can't seem
 to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our
 animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat
 up. Turns out, it was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she
 even saw the cat get hit! - same old story, the owner
 doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet
 bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it
 and goes about her day. My officer told her, This is your
 responsibility, not mine - you get that cat to a vet. Later
 on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I have
 a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO,
 lady, what don't you understand - this is your animal, she
 is your responsibility, TAKE HER TO THE VET. 
 Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in
 with a cat in a crate. He has serious health problems; he's
 old and has some sort of issues with his teeth, he's in a
 lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other
 stuff. I remember speaking with her two months ago about the
 cat, gave her some phone numbers of vets who might be
 willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. Anyway,
 she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on
 Tuesday. I tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet,
 tried to get her to understand that it would be inhumane and
 cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to sit in a
 cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black
 trash bag and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally,
 she had no money - but if you're a good client, chances are
 your vet will euthanize for free or next to nothing; my vet
 has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had
 months to prepare for this, but
  she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're
 allergic, and of course, like the other person, she didn't
 want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, I'm leaving.
 I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to
 follow her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I
 thought of her, but I need my job.
 I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it
 appears that this attitude has become more and more
 prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters or who are
 involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about.
 Someone will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean
 up after your mistakes, so why even try to do the
 responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens last
 week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They
 had all gone out to a rescue. After hollering, Praise
 Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, the next time I
 have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I
 have to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born!
 Come here on euthanasia day and then ask yourself if you
 should be producing more kittens!
 Thanks for letting me vent.
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread LauraM
especially after all I've been through in the past several weeks with Tiger. I 
don't have any money, either. But I could never imagine leaving my good friend 
at a kill shelter. 



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread Natalie
Dear Laura M.,
Rant all you want - it's good for your soul to vent - we all need it at
times.  I am in a lot better circumstances because I am a private rescue, no
euthanasia, but I have to deal with picking up all the discarded animals and
with those phone calls that always start with I've got this cat and
you know exactly what will follow. I've had cats dumped around my house, not
noticing them until much later, eating leftover cat food that we put out for
wildlife; only one, so far, was FeLV+ - and he's the sweetest cat - but we
thought that he was feral until we got him another FeLV+ buddy.
I honestly don't know how people can be so disgusting with their own cats,
pretending that they're not theirsI can't let any animal in distress
just lying there, even if it costs me some money. I know a very wealthy
woman whose teenage nephew lives with her.  He had a 10-yr old Siamese cat
that went to a very good vet for dental surgery - (had an abscess on two
teeth), and died.  She was ready to sue the vet, hysterical, calling the vet
etc.  It turns out, after I spoke to her, that the cat had the abscesses
since about 1/2 yr agoso why did it take so long to get her to the vet,
why wasn't she on antibiotics pre-surgery, etc. yet, she rants and raves,
when all along it was her own fault!
It has to be extremely emotionally and physically draining on you to work at
that place - I don't know how you do it!  But thank God for people like you
- at least these poor little creatures have someone there who cares.
Do people like this Praise Jesus lady get information on low-cost
neuter/spaying?  Too bad we can't order them to sterilize their
animals...how I wish that there was mandatory spaying/neutering.but
there's' so much opposition to it, and from sources one wouldn't believe!
Thank you for doing what you do!
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and
really made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as
disposable property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An
inconvenience, to be tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport
that must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die
there, and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI
called our animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up.
Turns out, it was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get
hit! - same old story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem,
doesn't want a vet bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about
it and goes about her day. My officer told her, This is your
responsibility, not mine - you get that cat to a vet. Later on, the caller
once again rang up animal control: If I have a cat that's been hit by a
car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what don't you understand - this is
your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE HER TO THE VET. 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a
crate. He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues
with his teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some
other stuff. I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave
her some phone numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the
cost of treatment. Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize
him on Tuesday. I tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to
get her to understand that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a
place with strangers, to sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be
tossed in a black trash bag and thrown into the dump like garbage.
Naturally, she had no money - but if you're a good client, chances are your
vet will euthanize for free or next to nothing; my vet has never charged me
to euthanize an animal. And she had months to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of
course, like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she
said to me, I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so
badly to follow her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of
her, but I need my job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in
shelters or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking
about. Someone will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after
your mistakes, so why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident
surrendered 4 kittens last week and 

Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread Kim
Laura M,
I totally understand your need to vent and what you vent about are the same
things I vent about constantly.  
Just this week I went to the shelter to get out a momma cat that had four
kittens the day after she was left therehere they can just file out
papers and place them in a crate to be found and dealt with the next
morning.  Anyway, since she had kittens it was her, and her 4 babies,
euthanization date.  The babies weren't even a full 24 hours old yet so I
pulled them out.  She is the sweetest cat ever!  Trusted me from the very
second see saw me and always wants to sit in my lap and purr.  She has an
excellent purrer and is always so happy and always ready to be loved on and
love you back!  The reason she was placed in the shelter box was because she
was having her fifth litter of kittens
I'll never understand why people think it is so much better to kill their
animals than to get them fixed.  
Most days my heart is totally broken due to the things people do to their
animals.
Kim  

...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet...
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and
really made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as
disposable property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An
inconvenience, to be tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport
that must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die
there, and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI
called our animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up.
Turns out, it was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get
hit! - same old story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem,
doesn't want a vet bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about
it and goes about her day. My officer told her, This is your
responsibility, not mine - you get that cat to a vet. Later on, the caller
once again rang up animal control: If I have a cat that's been hit by a
car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what don't you understand - this is
your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE HER TO THE VET. 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a
crate. He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues
with his teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some
other stuff. I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave
her some phone numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the
cost of treatment. Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize
him on Tuesday. I tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to
get her to understand that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a
place with strangers, to sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be
tossed in a black trash bag and thrown into the dump like garbage.
Naturally, she had no money - but if you're a good client, chances are your
vet will euthanize for free or next to nothing; my vet has never charged me
to euthanize an animal. And she had months to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of
course, like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she
said to me, I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so
badly to follow her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of
her, but I need my job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in
shelters or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking
about. Someone will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after
your mistakes, so why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident
surrendered 4 kittens last week and called today to ask if they'd been
adopted. They had all gone out to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus!
They're safe! she asked me, So, the next time I have kittens, should I
call this rescue directly or do I have to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't
let them be born! Come here on euthanasia day and then ask yourself if you
should be producing more kittens!
Thanks for letting me vent.
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread Natalie
The biggest problem is that because of all those stupid, selfish, ignorant
and irresponsible people, people like us are tormented emotionally,
physically, and financially drained.may they rot in hell, except that's
not soon enough for me!
A stupid woman in Brooklyn, where cats are running around, getting hit by
cars, chased and hosed down by jerk neighbors, and she is not cooperating in
getting them trapped...we have foster homes set up, I would take the
pregnant ones, etc.  First she calls, begging for help, and then does
everything she can to sabotage everything.  We're ready to give up and
concentrate on CT, we have enough problems here, too.  Natalie

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Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 9:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

Laura M,
I totally understand your need to vent and what you vent about are the same
things I vent about constantly.  
Just this week I went to the shelter to get out a momma cat that had four
kittens the day after she was left therehere they can just file out
papers and place them in a crate to be found and dealt with the next
morning.  Anyway, since she had kittens it was her, and her 4 babies,
euthanization date.  The babies weren't even a full 24 hours old yet so I
pulled them out.  She is the sweetest cat ever!  Trusted me from the very
second see saw me and always wants to sit in my lap and purr.  She has an
excellent purrer and is always so happy and always ready to be loved on and
love you back!  The reason she was placed in the shelter box was because she
was having her fifth litter of kittens
I'll never understand why people think it is so much better to kill their
animals than to get them fixed.  
Most days my heart is totally broken due to the things people do to their
animals.
Kim  

...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet...
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and
really made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as
disposable property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An
inconvenience, to be tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport
that must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die
there, and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI
called our animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up.
Turns out, it was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get
hit! - same old story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem,
doesn't want a vet bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about
it and goes about her day. My officer told her, This is your
responsibility, not mine - you get that cat to a vet. Later on, the caller
once again rang up animal control: If I have a cat that's been hit by a
car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what don't you understand - this is
your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE HER TO THE VET. 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a
crate. He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues
with his teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some
other stuff. I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave
her some phone numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the
cost of treatment. Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize
him on Tuesday. I tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to
get her to understand that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a
place with strangers, to sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be
tossed in a black trash bag and thrown into the dump like garbage.
Naturally, she had no money - but if you're a good client, chances are your
vet will euthanize for free or next to nothing; my vet has never charged me
to euthanize an animal. And she had months to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of
course, like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she
said to me, I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so
badly to follow her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of
her, but I need my job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this
attitude has become more and more