Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-20 Thread Melinda Kerr
I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some would 
be OK.  She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back within the 
hour!  All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her visiting (sneaking 
in an open door.)  She is very popular in the neighborhood and I think everyone 
pretty much looks out for her.  I'll keep sitting out with her every morning 
and try to keep her close:)

Thanks,
Melinda and Fuji

On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 Hi Melinda,
 
 I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats
 inside.  We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats
 before we rescued them.
 
 We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with
 no traffic and we are surrounded by woods.  Therefore, when our cats
 escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I
 think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy
 being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside.  I know
 a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for
 me, and my cats are always inside at night.  I don't feed them after 
 about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
 animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is
 collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and
 getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most
 people who have cats brought them from the states and have already
 had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The
 speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
 (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come
 across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out
 with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! 
 She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. 
 I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.
 
 Thanks again for your input and concern.  
 
 Melinda and Fuji  
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
 
 Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6 foot 
 kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.  I used left 
 over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu 
 could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the 
 ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and 
 other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had 
 been a street cat until about age 3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside 
 outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a 
 play area.  The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the 
 knowledge that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived 
 inside) had a safe place to go.
 
 If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into 
 contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death too.  If she 
 becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll leave the details to 
 you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what 
 you may be doing.  Dixie was grown when she can into my life.  She was 
 FeLV+ and very alone.  She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat 
 then a two house cat who had everything.  I thought about just letting her 
 go but could not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor 
 could I face what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs, 
 coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea.
 
 With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.  Actually, 
 getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story.  I 
 will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV 
 positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal lymphoma.  The problem is, 
 she doesn't know that she is supposed to be sick.  At this time there are 
 no outward signs of illness.  She was allowed outside for a couple of 
 hours at a time, never overnight and always staying close to home.  Now, I 
 try to limit her to outside time with close supervision.  However, she has 
 started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me.  I know 
 she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her boredom.  She 
 spends the day begging to go out, crying meee u, all day long.  
 She races us to the door and bites at our ankles to try to get out.  I'm 
 faced with the decision of just letting her go because her quality of 
 life seems to depend on it.  She is otherwise quite content.  I am leaning 
 toward giving her more outside time and
  dealing with the 

Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-20 Thread Melinda Kerr
You all have such wonderful ideas and I have actually been quite entertained by 
reading them.  Many of you have taken in kitties that have been abandoned or 
abused.  It breaks my heart when I hear of one passing away.  You all have 
extremely kind hearts and have provided great support.

Thanks,
Melinda 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Sharyl wrote:

 Great enclosure.  Have you put any thing for them to climb on out their?  
 Mine like the large Rubbernaud tubs.  I've cur an opening in the long side so 
 I can set water and dry food inside for refreshments for them.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Sun, 9/19/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote:
 
 From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 4:42 PM
 I put a 10 x 10 x 6 foot tall kennel
 on the side porch for Dixie Louise Doodle Katt JP as a
 reward for being very wonderful when Mom was in the
 hospital.  We went out and sat together.  It was a
 wonderful time.  I wish she was still here.
 On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:
 
 You can always build an enclosure to let them have
 some outside time.  After 3 of ours all indoor all of
 their lives pushed out a screen and got out, one Bailey kept
 wanting to go out, so after him driving us nuts for a month
 or so rolling in front of the door and trying to get out
 every chance he had we decided to build an enclosure. 
 It is off out back door and we have a pet door in the
 kitchen window that they use.  It is 21 feet by 22 feet
 in size and 8 feet high, our back door opens out to it and
 we and the kitties can spend time outside anytime they want,
 the top is covered with chicken wire to keep them in and the
 hawks out.  They love it!!!
 
 Here are some pictures, this is before we added the
 pet door in the kitchen window and the steps leading up to
 it.
 
 http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen
 
 --Belinda
 happiness is being owned by cats ...
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-20 Thread Chris
You know, each of those little ones have their own personalities and try as
we want, we can't really change that.  Sounds like your little one has a
mind of her own and you're right, keeping her stressed out inside wouldn't
do her much good!  It sounds like you've got a pretty good situation for her
little strolls.  About the only thing I'd suggest is that you keep an eye
that she doesn't get sniffles or cut or things like that.  FELV+ have a
tougher time fighting off infections and you'd want to catch anything that
could get infected w. her.  Short of that, enjoy and let her enjoy--sounds
like she's a great kitty!  

Christiane Biagi
ti...@mindspring.com 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some
would be OK.  She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back
within the hour!  All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her
visiting (sneaking in an open door.)  She is very popular in the
neighborhood and I think everyone pretty much looks out for her.  I'll keep
sitting out with her every morning and try to keep her close:)

Thanks,
Melinda and Fuji

On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 Hi Melinda,
 
 I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats
 inside.  We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats
 before we rescued them.
 
 We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with
 no traffic and we are surrounded by woods.  Therefore, when our cats
 escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I
 think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy
 being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside.  I know
 a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for
 me, and my cats are always inside at night.  I don't feed them after 
 about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
 animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is
 collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and
 getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most
 people who have cats brought them from the states and have already
 had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The
 speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
 (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come
 across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out
 with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! 
 She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. 
 I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.
 
 Thanks again for your input and concern.  
 
 Melinda and Fuji  
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
 
 Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6 foot
kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.  I used left
over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu
could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the
ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and
other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had been
a street cat until about age 3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside
outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a
play area.  The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge
that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside)
had a safe place to go.
 
 If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into
contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death too.  If she
becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll leave the details to
you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what you
may be doing.  Dixie was grown when she can into my life.  She was FeLV+ and
very alone.  She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two
house cat who had everything.  I thought about just letting her go but could
not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face
what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs, coyotes, hawks
and.well, you get the idea.
 
 With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.  Actually,
getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story.
I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV
positive and receiving 

Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-20 Thread Natalie
I would say that a drawback , such a getting wet in a rainstorm, she could
get sickwith a compromised immune system, getting URI is more serious
than for a healthy cat!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some
would be OK.  She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back
within the hour!  All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her
visiting (sneaking in an open door.)  She is very popular in the
neighborhood and I think everyone pretty much looks out for her.  I'll keep
sitting out with her every morning and try to keep her close:)

Thanks,
Melinda and Fuji

On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 Hi Melinda,
 
 I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats
 inside.  We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats
 before we rescued them.
 
 We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with
 no traffic and we are surrounded by woods.  Therefore, when our cats
 escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I
 think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy
 being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside.  I know
 a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for
 me, and my cats are always inside at night.  I don't feed them after 
 about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
 animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is
 collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and
 getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most
 people who have cats brought them from the states and have already
 had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The
 speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
 (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come
 across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out
 with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! 
 She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. 
 I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.
 
 Thanks again for your input and concern.  
 
 Melinda and Fuji  
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
 
 Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6 foot
kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.  I used left
over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu
could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the
ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and
other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had been
a street cat until about age 3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside
outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a
play area.  The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge
that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside)
had a safe place to go.
 
 If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into
contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death too.  If she
becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll leave the details to
you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what you
may be doing.  Dixie was grown when she can into my life.  She was FeLV+ and
very alone.  She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two
house cat who had everything.  I thought about just letting her go but could
not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face
what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs, coyotes, hawks
and.well, you get the idea.
 
 With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.  Actually,
getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story.
I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV
positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal lymphoma.  The problem is, she
doesn't know that she is supposed to be sick.  At this time there are no
outward signs of illness.  She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at
a time, never overnight and always staying close to home.  Now, I try to
limit her to outside time with close supervision.  However, she has started
to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me.  I know she is
trying to play with me and alleviate some of her boredom.  She spends 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-20 Thread dlgegg
THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE BIGGEST 
LAP BABIES EVER.  
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again.  Use
 some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment!
 Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral!  I don't release
 them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have absolutely
 no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a
 roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it happens
 too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes,
 nonetheless!.Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 Importance: High
 
 Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help  
 keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue.  There are some  
 ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry  
 about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats.  I live  
 trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house.   
 Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of  
 mine have.  Don't tempt fate by letting him out again.  (MHO)
 
 
 
 On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
  Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information.
  Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs.  My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7.  I  
  keep my cats _strictly_ indoors.   Lucky would have to adapt to that  
  life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he  
  might do).  Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that.
  My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box  
  sharing.  I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat  
  uses its own box.  So I suspect there is box sharing.  And I know  
  that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes.
  - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 
 
How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity  
  with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop  
  FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How old  
  is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good  
  chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6  
  weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it  
  still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to see if  
  the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow it  
  cannot be eliminated from the body.
 I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat.  
  I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing them  
  together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my fingers. I  
  don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg  
  turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk.
 
  Hope this helps,
  Tanya
 
  --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM
  All vaccines are only about 80%
  effectiveI really don't have much
  experience with this because I have two very healthy
  FeLV+ cats, living
  separately from others. But I would think that if
  retested, being only a
  weak positive, maybe the cat will be negative! It
  seems to have been
  really run down, the immune system was definitely
  compromised, fighting an
  infection, fleasGood luck! Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 
 
  Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a
  bitthere are many
  extremely well informed members who will have any and all
  information you
  need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come
  here often so that I
  stay informed
 
  Debbie
  We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience
  them. - Kahlil
  Gibran
 
 
 
   From: ho...@sonic.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:32:46 -0700
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
  
   This e-mail got bounced back to meam trying one
  more time.
   - Original Message -  From: Bonnie Hogue
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:37 PM
   Subject: New to Feline Leukemia
  
  
   It's a long story, but 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-20 Thread Bonnie Hogue

So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat
I've got Lucky in the back bedroom.  The other 3 hear him meow.  Some even 
peer under the door and hiss at him.  So, what's next?  Just open the door 
and say Hello, everyone!?  Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can 
see eachother for a few days?  It's been a week and I figured after another 
week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is 
vaccinated, of course).  I'm stressing out over what to do.

Help?
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia


THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE 
BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. 
Use

some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment!
Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral!  I don't release
them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have 
absolutely

no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a
roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it 
happens

too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes,
nonetheless!.Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Importance: High

Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help
keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue.  There are some
ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry
about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats.  I live
trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house.
Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of
mine have.  Don't tempt fate by letting him out again.  (MHO)



On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information.
 Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs.  My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7.  I
 keep my cats _strictly_ indoors.   Lucky would have to adapt to that
 life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he
 might do).  Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that.
 My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box
 sharing.  I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat
 uses its own box.  So I suspect there is box sharing.  And I know
 that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes.
 - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE 
 sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com

 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia


   How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity
 with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop
 FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How old
 is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good
 chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6
 weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it
 still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to see if
 the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow it
 cannot be eliminated from the body.
I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat.
 I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing them
 together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my fingers. I
 don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg
 turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk.

 Hope this helps,
 Tanya

 --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM
 All vaccines are only about 80%
 effectiveI really don't have much
 experience with this because I have two very healthy
 FeLV+ cats, living
 separately from others. But I would think that if
 retested, being only a
 weak positive, maybe the cat will be negative! It
 seems to have been
 really run down, the immune system was definitely
 compromised, fighting an
 infection, fleasGood luck! Natalie

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia


 Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a
 bitthere are many
 extremely well informed members who will have any and all
 information you
 need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come
 here often so that I
 stay 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-20 Thread Chris
Screen or baby gate for a few days is a great idea.  Let them sniff each
other without direct confrontation.  Try to let him explore the house by
himself at first and then slowly let them out together for a short while but
supervise.  Don't know if each has a sep food dish or place to eat--my 4
have 4 dishes and they sort of go to their corner in the kitchen at meal
time.  Of course, they then go cruising to see what might be left over in
each other's dish  I have one who always gets the short end of the stick.
Just watch that there are no tussles and that he doesn't get pushed away. I
have 2 boxes for my 4 and they just go in whichever one they want.  For the
new guy, just watch that nobody starts bullying him as he heads to a box.  I
have 2 water dishes and they go where they want.  I got a bunch of those
cheap donut kitty beds  have them around and each stakes one out for a
while and then moves on.  Bottom line, my suggestions really center around
not letting the new guy feel he has to fight for anything--food, water, the
box, your attention, etc.  And not letting him get pushed around by the old
ones.  And, in reverse, nipping in the bud any moves he makes to bully any
of the old one.  Last thought--sometimes, having a group treat time where
I sit on the floor and they all come running to get some treats I hand out.
I sometimes do that when I notice one or the other is particularly testy.
But of course, they're cats and they all have their days just like we do!


Christiane Biagi
ti...@mindspring.com 


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Importance: High

So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat
I've got Lucky in the back bedroom.  The other 3 hear him meow.  Some even 
peer under the door and hiss at him.  So, what's next?  Just open the door 
and say Hello, everyone!?  Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can 
see eachother for a few days?  It's been a week and I figured after another 
week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is 
vaccinated, of course).  I'm stressing out over what to do.
Help?
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia


 THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE 
 BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER.
  Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. 
 Use
 some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment!
 Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral!  I don't release
 them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have 
 absolutely
 no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a
 roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it 
 happens
 too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes,
 nonetheless!.Natalie

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 Importance: High

 Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help
 keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue.  There are some
 ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry
 about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats.  I live
 trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house.
 Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of
 mine have.  Don't tempt fate by letting him out again.  (MHO)



 On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

  Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information.
  Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs.  My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7.  I
  keep my cats _strictly_ indoors.   Lucky would have to adapt to that
  life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he
  might do).  Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that.
  My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box
  sharing.  I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat
  uses its own box.  So I suspect there is box sharing.  And I know
  that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes.
  - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE 
  sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
 
 
How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity
  with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop
  FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-20 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Excellent suggestions, Christiane.  I thank you!
- Original Message - 
From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia



Screen or baby gate for a few days is a great idea.  Let them sniff each
other without direct confrontation.  Try to let him explore the house by
himself at first and then slowly let them out together for a short while 
but

supervise.  Don't know if each has a sep food dish or place to eat--my 4
have 4 dishes and they sort of go to their corner in the kitchen at meal
time.  Of course, they then go cruising to see what might be left over in
each other's dish  I have one who always gets the short end of the stick.
Just watch that there are no tussles and that he doesn't get pushed away. 
I
have 2 boxes for my 4 and they just go in whichever one they want.  For 
the
new guy, just watch that nobody starts bullying him as he heads to a box. 
I

have 2 water dishes and they go where they want.  I got a bunch of those
cheap donut kitty beds  have them around and each stakes one out for a
while and then moves on.  Bottom line, my suggestions really center around
not letting the new guy feel he has to fight for anything--food, water, 
the
box, your attention, etc.  And not letting him get pushed around by the 
old

ones.  And, in reverse, nipping in the bud any moves he makes to bully any
of the old one.  Last thought--sometimes, having a group treat time 
where
I sit on the floor and they all come running to get some treats I hand 
out.

I sometimes do that when I notice one or the other is particularly testy.
But of course, they're cats and they all have their days just like we 
do!



Christiane Biagi
ti...@mindspring.com


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Importance: High

So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat
I've got Lucky in the back bedroom.  The other 3 hear him meow.  Some even
peer under the door and hiss at him.  So, what's next?  Just open the door
and say Hello, everyone!?  Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can
see eachother for a few days?  It's been a week and I figured after 
another

week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is
vaccinated, of course).  I'm stressing out over what to do.
Help?
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia



THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE
BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again.
Use
some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment!
Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral!  I don't release
them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have
absolutely
no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have 
a

roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it
happens
too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes,
nonetheless!.Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Importance: High

Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help
keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue.  There are some
ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry
about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats.  I live
trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house.
Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of
mine have.  Don't tempt fate by letting him out again.  (MHO)



On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information.
 Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs.  My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7.  I
 keep my cats _strictly_ indoors.   Lucky would have to adapt to that
 life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he
 might do).  Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that.
 My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box
 sharing.  I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat
 uses its own box.  So I suspect there is box sharing.  And I know
 that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes.
 - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE
 sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia