Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda
I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some would be OK. She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back within the hour! All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her visiting (sneaking in an open door.) She is very popular in the neighborhood and I think everyone pretty much looks out for her. I'll keep sitting out with her every morning and try to keep her close:) Thanks, Melinda and Fuji On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote: Hi Melinda, I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats inside. We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats before we rescued them. We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with no traffic and we are surrounded by woods. Therefore, when our cats escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside. I know a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for me, and my cats are always inside at night. I don't feed them after about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark. Lorrie On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote: I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim. Most people who have cats brought them from the states and have already had them vaccinated. Again, very few are actually let out. The speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she goes outside. I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have done since she got sick. However, if she occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy. Thanks again for your input and concern. Melinda and Fuji On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: Suggestion: Fix her a secure kennel outside. I put up a 12x12x6 foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work. I used left over chain link). Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and other toys. Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful. Ebony had been a street cat until about age 3 +. He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area. The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had a safe place to go. If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into contact with. You may be subjecting her to a painful death too. If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her. I'll leave the details to you. I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what you may be doing. Dixie was grown when she can into my life. She was FeLV+ and very alone. She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had everything. I thought about just letting her go but could not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face what might happen to her. We live in the country with dogs, coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea. With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust. Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer. On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: Hello all, I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story. I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal lymphoma. The problem is, she doesn't know that she is supposed to be sick. At this time there are no outward signs of illness. She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at a time, never overnight and always staying close to home. Now, I try to limit her to outside time with close supervision. However, she has started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me. I know she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her boredom. She spends the day begging to go out, crying meee u, all day long. She races us to the door and bites at our ankles to try to get out. I'm faced with the decision of just letting her go because her quality of life seems to depend on it. She is otherwise quite content. I am leaning toward giving her more outside time and dealing with the
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You all have such wonderful ideas and I have actually been quite entertained by reading them. Many of you have taken in kitties that have been abandoned or abused. It breaks my heart when I hear of one passing away. You all have extremely kind hearts and have provided great support. Thanks, Melinda On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Sharyl wrote: Great enclosure. Have you put any thing for them to climb on out their? Mine like the large Rubbernaud tubs. I've cur an opening in the long side so I can set water and dry food inside for refreshments for them. Sharyl --- On Sun, 9/19/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 4:42 PM I put a 10 x 10 x 6 foot tall kennel on the side porch for Dixie Louise Doodle Katt JP as a reward for being very wonderful when Mom was in the hospital. We went out and sat together. It was a wonderful time. I wish she was still here. On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: You can always build an enclosure to let them have some outside time. After 3 of ours all indoor all of their lives pushed out a screen and got out, one Bailey kept wanting to go out, so after him driving us nuts for a month or so rolling in front of the door and trying to get out every chance he had we decided to build an enclosure. It is off out back door and we have a pet door in the kitchen window that they use. It is 21 feet by 22 feet in size and 8 feet high, our back door opens out to it and we and the kitties can spend time outside anytime they want, the top is covered with chicken wire to keep them in and the hawks out. They love it!!! Here are some pictures, this is before we added the pet door in the kitchen window and the steps leading up to it. http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen --Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda
You know, each of those little ones have their own personalities and try as we want, we can't really change that. Sounds like your little one has a mind of her own and you're right, keeping her stressed out inside wouldn't do her much good! It sounds like you've got a pretty good situation for her little strolls. About the only thing I'd suggest is that you keep an eye that she doesn't get sniffles or cut or things like that. FELV+ have a tougher time fighting off infections and you'd want to catch anything that could get infected w. her. Short of that, enjoy and let her enjoy--sounds like she's a great kitty! Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some would be OK. She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back within the hour! All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her visiting (sneaking in an open door.) She is very popular in the neighborhood and I think everyone pretty much looks out for her. I'll keep sitting out with her every morning and try to keep her close:) Thanks, Melinda and Fuji On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote: Hi Melinda, I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats inside. We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats before we rescued them. We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with no traffic and we are surrounded by woods. Therefore, when our cats escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside. I know a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for me, and my cats are always inside at night. I don't feed them after about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark. Lorrie On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote: I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim. Most people who have cats brought them from the states and have already had them vaccinated. Again, very few are actually let out. The speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she goes outside. I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have done since she got sick. However, if she occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy. Thanks again for your input and concern. Melinda and Fuji On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: Suggestion: Fix her a secure kennel outside. I put up a 12x12x6 foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work. I used left over chain link). Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and other toys. Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful. Ebony had been a street cat until about age 3 +. He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area. The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had a safe place to go. If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into contact with. You may be subjecting her to a painful death too. If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her. I'll leave the details to you. I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what you may be doing. Dixie was grown when she can into my life. She was FeLV+ and very alone. She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had everything. I thought about just letting her go but could not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face what might happen to her. We live in the country with dogs, coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea. With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust. Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer. On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: Hello all, I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story. I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving
Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda
I would say that a drawback , such a getting wet in a rainstorm, she could get sickwith a compromised immune system, getting URI is more serious than for a healthy cat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda I was actually looking for a little confirmation that being outside some would be OK. She went out today, got caught in a rainstorm and was back within the hour! All the neighbors know her well and even tolerate her visiting (sneaking in an open door.) She is very popular in the neighborhood and I think everyone pretty much looks out for her. I'll keep sitting out with her every morning and try to keep her close:) Thanks, Melinda and Fuji On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Lorrie wrote: Hi Melinda, I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats inside. We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats before we rescued them. We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with no traffic and we are surrounded by woods. Therefore, when our cats escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside. I know a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for me, and my cats are always inside at night. I don't feed them after about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark. Lorrie On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote: I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim. Most people who have cats brought them from the states and have already had them vaccinated. Again, very few are actually let out. The speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she goes outside. I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have done since she got sick. However, if she occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy. Thanks again for your input and concern. Melinda and Fuji On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: Suggestion: Fix her a secure kennel outside. I put up a 12x12x6 foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work. I used left over chain link). Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and other toys. Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful. Ebony had been a street cat until about age 3 +. He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area. The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had a safe place to go. If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into contact with. You may be subjecting her to a painful death too. If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her. I'll leave the details to you. I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what you may be doing. Dixie was grown when she can into my life. She was FeLV+ and very alone. She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had everything. I thought about just letting her go but could not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face what might happen to her. We live in the country with dogs, coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea. With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust. Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer. On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: Hello all, I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story. I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal lymphoma. The problem is, she doesn't know that she is supposed to be sick. At this time there are no outward signs of illness. She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at a time, never overnight and always staying close to home. Now, I try to limit her to outside time with close supervision. However, she has started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me. I know she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her boredom. She spends
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. Use some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment! Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral! I don't release them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have absolutely no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it happens too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes, nonetheless!.Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue. There are some ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats. I live trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house. Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of mine have. Don't tempt fate by letting him out again. (MHO) On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information. Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs. My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7. I keep my cats _strictly_ indoors. Lucky would have to adapt to that life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he might do). Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that. My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box sharing. I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat uses its own box. So I suspect there is box sharing. And I know that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How old is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6 weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to see if the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow it cannot be eliminated from the body. I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat. I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing them together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my fingers. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk. Hope this helps, Tanya --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM All vaccines are only about 80% effectiveI really don't have much experience with this because I have two very healthy FeLV+ cats, living separately from others. But I would think that if retested, being only a weak positive, maybe the cat will be negative! It seems to have been really run down, the immune system was definitely compromised, fighting an infection, fleasGood luck! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a bitthere are many extremely well informed members who will have any and all information you need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come here often so that I stay informed Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia This e-mail got bounced back to meam trying one more time. - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: New to Feline Leukemia It's a long story, but
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat I've got Lucky in the back bedroom. The other 3 hear him meow. Some even peer under the door and hiss at him. So, what's next? Just open the door and say Hello, everyone!? Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can see eachother for a few days? It's been a week and I figured after another week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is vaccinated, of course). I'm stressing out over what to do. Help? - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. Use some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment! Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral! I don't release them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have absolutely no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it happens too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes, nonetheless!.Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue. There are some ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats. I live trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house. Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of mine have. Don't tempt fate by letting him out again. (MHO) On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information. Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs. My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7. I keep my cats _strictly_ indoors. Lucky would have to adapt to that life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he might do). Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that. My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box sharing. I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat uses its own box. So I suspect there is box sharing. And I know that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How old is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6 weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to see if the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow it cannot be eliminated from the body. I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat. I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing them together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my fingers. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk. Hope this helps, Tanya --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM All vaccines are only about 80% effectiveI really don't have much experience with this because I have two very healthy FeLV+ cats, living separately from others. But I would think that if retested, being only a weak positive, maybe the cat will be negative! It seems to have been really run down, the immune system was definitely compromised, fighting an infection, fleasGood luck! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a bitthere are many extremely well informed members who will have any and all information you need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come here often so that I stay
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Screen or baby gate for a few days is a great idea. Let them sniff each other without direct confrontation. Try to let him explore the house by himself at first and then slowly let them out together for a short while but supervise. Don't know if each has a sep food dish or place to eat--my 4 have 4 dishes and they sort of go to their corner in the kitchen at meal time. Of course, they then go cruising to see what might be left over in each other's dish I have one who always gets the short end of the stick. Just watch that there are no tussles and that he doesn't get pushed away. I have 2 boxes for my 4 and they just go in whichever one they want. For the new guy, just watch that nobody starts bullying him as he heads to a box. I have 2 water dishes and they go where they want. I got a bunch of those cheap donut kitty beds have them around and each stakes one out for a while and then moves on. Bottom line, my suggestions really center around not letting the new guy feel he has to fight for anything--food, water, the box, your attention, etc. And not letting him get pushed around by the old ones. And, in reverse, nipping in the bud any moves he makes to bully any of the old one. Last thought--sometimes, having a group treat time where I sit on the floor and they all come running to get some treats I hand out. I sometimes do that when I notice one or the other is particularly testy. But of course, they're cats and they all have their days just like we do! Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat I've got Lucky in the back bedroom. The other 3 hear him meow. Some even peer under the door and hiss at him. So, what's next? Just open the door and say Hello, everyone!? Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can see eachother for a few days? It's been a week and I figured after another week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is vaccinated, of course). I'm stressing out over what to do. Help? - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. Use some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment! Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral! I don't release them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have absolutely no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it happens too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes, nonetheless!.Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue. There are some ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats. I live trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house. Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of mine have. Don't tempt fate by letting him out again. (MHO) On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information. Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs. My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7. I keep my cats _strictly_ indoors. Lucky would have to adapt to that life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he might do). Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that. My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box sharing. I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat uses its own box. So I suspect there is box sharing. And I know that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Excellent suggestions, Christiane. I thank you! - Original Message - From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Screen or baby gate for a few days is a great idea. Let them sniff each other without direct confrontation. Try to let him explore the house by himself at first and then slowly let them out together for a short while but supervise. Don't know if each has a sep food dish or place to eat--my 4 have 4 dishes and they sort of go to their corner in the kitchen at meal time. Of course, they then go cruising to see what might be left over in each other's dish I have one who always gets the short end of the stick. Just watch that there are no tussles and that he doesn't get pushed away. I have 2 boxes for my 4 and they just go in whichever one they want. For the new guy, just watch that nobody starts bullying him as he heads to a box. I have 2 water dishes and they go where they want. I got a bunch of those cheap donut kitty beds have them around and each stakes one out for a while and then moves on. Bottom line, my suggestions really center around not letting the new guy feel he has to fight for anything--food, water, the box, your attention, etc. And not letting him get pushed around by the old ones. And, in reverse, nipping in the bud any moves he makes to bully any of the old one. Last thought--sometimes, having a group treat time where I sit on the floor and they all come running to get some treats I hand out. I sometimes do that when I notice one or the other is particularly testy. But of course, they're cats and they all have their days just like we do! Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High So here is a question about Integrating a New Cat I've got Lucky in the back bedroom. The other 3 hear him meow. Some even peer under the door and hiss at him. So, what's next? Just open the door and say Hello, everyone!? Or maybe put a screen or fence up so they can see eachother for a few days? It's been a week and I figured after another week it's time for poor Lucky to join the crowd (after everyone is vaccinated, of course). I'm stressing out over what to do. Help? - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia THE FERALS I HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL LIKE MY BED AND HAVE BECOME THE BIGGEST LAP BABIES EVER. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out again. Use some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment! Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral! I don't release them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have absolutely no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy to have a roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for some it happens too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch potatoes, nonetheless!.Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Importance: High Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue. There are some ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I worry about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats. I live trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house. Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals of mine have. Don't tempt fate by letting him out again. (MHO) On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information. Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs. My other cats are: 14, 9 and 7. I keep my cats _strictly_ indoors. Lucky would have to adapt to that life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his age, he might do). Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that. My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) litter box sharing. I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat uses its own box. So I suspect there is box sharing. And I know that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia