[Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ w/nonregenerative anemia

2010-09-30 Thread nise...@yahoo.com
I am so grateful to find this group. Please help me with your  collective 
experience  wisdom on this horrible disease. 


I don't have many specifics about Avis' history, but I gather that he  was a 
stray in bad shape when he was rescued, then bounced around  before settling in 
a dorm room with a college student friend of my  daughter. Avis is currently 
about 21 months old. 


In May, I agreed to keep him for the summer. The original plan was that  he 
would live in my good-sized, many-windowed basement safely separated  from Max, 
my 9 year old border terrier who has never shared his home  with another 
animal. 
Avis would return to his college student when  school started after labor day. 


I absolutely did not expect the silly dog  cat to become best friends in a  
week, playing together all over the house. Max wasn't the only one who  quickly 
became fond of Avis, so I offered to keep him through  the school year to avoid 
cooping him up in a dorm room. 


Avis came to us with a diagnosis of Feline Herpes  a third eyelid  permanently 
raised about halfway on one eye. A few days ago, I took him  to a vet 
ophthalmologist for a minor procedure to improve his vision. A  complete blood 
workup was done as prep to general anesthesia. It showed  anemia, 
nonregenerative. WBC, Neutrophils  LYM were also very low normal. 


The eye procedure was postponed. I rushed Avis to my vet for a FeLV/FIV  test. 
Positive for FeLV, which was heartbreaking, but not really a surprise. 


Avis feels just fine right now.  But because he already has blood  
abnormalities 
there is obviously no way to predict how long he will continue to feel good. My 
vet says she is willing to try any reasonable option to give  him a chance at 
as 
much good quality life as possible. 


So I am now researching LTCI, Interferon, ImmunoRegulin,  Staph Protein A -- 
all  the treatments I'm sure have been thoroughly  discussed on this forum 
before. Any consensus about what is most safe   effective? Because there do 
not 
seem to be any definitive clinical trials  or studies to go by. 


I will likely take care of Avis for the time he has left -- this is too  much 
for a busy, stressed out college student to handle.  Any  suggestions to keep 
Avis as strong and comfortable and happy as possible  for as long as possible 
will be very, very much appreciated. 


Thank you! 

Kris B. 



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ w/nonregenerative anemia

2010-09-30 Thread Natalie
That's so wonderful, Kris - now you know that your dog is really open to
another animal buddy!
I'm sure you'll get great advice from othersI am also fairly new to this
group and have two very healthy FeLV+ adult male cats.  I just wanted to
tell you that I am currently socializing two 3-month old kittens, they are
extremely well-adjusted.  Our small dog, a Shnorky (Schnauzer/Yorky) and the
male kitten absolutely love each other.  They chase each other, roll around,
chewing one another, playing hide and seek, pouncing out from behind the
hiding places, etc...and the female doesn't mind any of that craziness,
either!  None of the adult cats mind our dog, they were here first.  But I
am seriously considering not finding a home for Tobey because Cookie and he
are such great friends! Natalie

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+
w/nonregenerative anemia

I am so grateful to find this group. Please help me with your  collective 
experience  wisdom on this horrible disease. 


I don't have many specifics about Avis' history, but I gather that he  was a

stray in bad shape when he was rescued, then bounced around  before settling
in 
a dorm room with a college student friend of my  daughter. Avis is currently

about 21 months old. 


In May, I agreed to keep him for the summer. The original plan was that  he 
would live in my good-sized, many-windowed basement safely separated  from
Max, 
my 9 year old border terrier who has never shared his home  with another
animal. 
Avis would return to his college student when  school started after labor
day. 


I absolutely did not expect the silly dog  cat to become best friends in a

week, playing together all over the house. Max wasn't the only one who
quickly 
became fond of Avis, so I offered to keep him through  the school year to
avoid 
cooping him up in a dorm room. 


Avis came to us with a diagnosis of Feline Herpes  a third eyelid
permanently 
raised about halfway on one eye. A few days ago, I took him  to a vet 
ophthalmologist for a minor procedure to improve his vision. A  complete
blood 
workup was done as prep to general anesthesia. It showed  anemia, 
nonregenerative. WBC, Neutrophils  LYM were also very low normal. 


The eye procedure was postponed. I rushed Avis to my vet for a FeLV/FIV
test. 
Positive for FeLV, which was heartbreaking, but not really a surprise. 


Avis feels just fine right now.  But because he already has blood
abnormalities 
there is obviously no way to predict how long he will continue to feel good.
My 
vet says she is willing to try any reasonable option to give  him a chance
at as 
much good quality life as possible. 


So I am now researching LTCI, Interferon, ImmunoRegulin,  Staph Protein A --

all  the treatments I'm sure have been thoroughly  discussed on this forum 
before. Any consensus about what is most safe   effective? Because there do
not 
seem to be any definitive clinical trials  or studies to go by. 


I will likely take care of Avis for the time he has left -- this is too
much 
for a busy, stressed out college student to handle.  Any  suggestions to
keep 
Avis as strong and comfortable and happy as possible  for as long as
possible 
will be very, very much appreciated. 


Thank you! 

Kris B. 



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ w/nonregenerative anemia

2010-09-30 Thread Beth
How anemic is he? what is his HCT?  It is a common thing with FeLV  needs to 
be monitored.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Thu, 9/30/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ 
w/nonregenerative anemia
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 1:39 PM

I am so grateful to find this group. Please help me with your  collective 
experience  wisdom on this horrible disease. 


I don't have many specifics about Avis' history, but I gather that he  was a 
stray in bad shape when he was rescued, then bounced around  before settling in 
a dorm room with a college student friend of my  daughter. Avis is currently 
about 21 months old. 


In May, I agreed to keep him for the summer. The original plan was that  he 
would live in my good-sized, many-windowed basement safely separated  from Max, 
my 9 year old border terrier who has never shared his home  with another 
animal. 
Avis would return to his college student when  school started after labor day. 


I absolutely did not expect the silly dog  cat to become best friends in a  
week, playing together all over the house. Max wasn't the only one who  quickly 
became fond of Avis, so I offered to keep him through  the school year to avoid 
cooping him up in a dorm room. 


Avis came to us with a diagnosis of Feline Herpes  a third eyelid  permanently 
raised about halfway on one eye. A few days ago, I took him  to a vet 
ophthalmologist for a minor procedure to improve his vision. A  complete blood 
workup was done as prep to general anesthesia. It showed  anemia, 
nonregenerative. WBC, Neutrophils  LYM were also very low normal. 


The eye procedure was postponed. I rushed Avis to my vet for a FeLV/FIV  test. 
Positive for FeLV, which was heartbreaking, but not really a surprise. 


Avis feels just fine right now.  But because he already has blood  
abnormalities 
there is obviously no way to predict how long he will continue to feel good. My 
vet says she is willing to try any reasonable option to give  him a chance at 
as 
much good quality life as possible. 


So I am now researching LTCI, Interferon, ImmunoRegulin,  Staph Protein A -- 
all  the treatments I'm sure have been thoroughly  discussed on this forum 
before. Any consensus about what is most safe   effective? Because there do 
not 
seem to be any definitive clinical trials  or studies to go by. 


I will likely take care of Avis for the time he has left -- this is too  much 
for a busy, stressed out college student to handle.  Any  suggestions to keep 
Avis as strong and comfortable and happy as possible  for as long as possible 
will be very, very much appreciated. 


Thank you! 

Kris B. 



      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ w/nonregenerative anemia

2010-09-30 Thread nise...@yahoo.com
Hi Beth,

RBC 4.37
HCT 21%

Gums  tongue a little pale, lower energy than other cats his age, but eating 
well, playing  keeping up with everything that's going on the other side of 
the 
windows.

My vet tells me that many anemic cats feel fine until the HCT hits 15%, give or 
take. We will do another blood test end of Oct, then approx every few months to 
see if the numbers hold steady, or monitor how fast they drop.

So my goal is to keep those numbers up as high as possible for as long as 
possible. I understand that sometimes treatments like LTCI, Interferon, etc can 
help with that. Any thoughts/experiences?

KB





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 2:58:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ 
w/nonregenerative anemia

How anemic is he? what is his HCT?  It is a common thing with FeLV  needs to 
be 
monitored.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Thu, 9/30/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ 
w/nonregenerative anemia
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 1:39 PM

I am so grateful to find this group. Please help me with your  collective 
experience  wisdom on this horrible disease. 


I don't have many specifics about Avis' history, but I gather that he  was a 
stray in bad shape when he was rescued, then bounced around  before settling in 
a dorm room with a college student friend of my  daughter. Avis is currently 
about 21 months old. 


In May, I agreed to keep him for the summer. The original plan was that  he 
would live in my good-sized, many-windowed basement safely separated  from Max, 
my 9 year old border terrier who has never shared his home  with another 
animal. 

Avis would return to his college student when  school started after labor day. 


I absolutely did not expect the silly dog  cat to become best friends in a  
week, playing together all over the house. Max wasn't the only one who  quickly 
became fond of Avis, so I offered to keep him through  the school year to avoid 
cooping him up in a dorm room. 


Avis came to us with a diagnosis of Feline Herpes  a third eyelid  permanently 
raised about halfway on one eye. A few days ago, I took him  to a vet 
ophthalmologist for a minor procedure to improve his vision. A  complete blood 
workup was done as prep to general anesthesia. It showed  anemia, 
nonregenerative. WBC, Neutrophils  LYM were also very low normal. 


The eye procedure was postponed. I rushed Avis to my vet for a FeLV/FIV  test. 
Positive for FeLV, which was heartbreaking, but not really a surprise. 


Avis feels just fine right now.  But because he already has blood  
abnormalities 

there is obviously no way to predict how long he will continue to feel good. My 
vet says she is willing to try any reasonable option to give  him a chance at 
as 

much good quality life as possible. 


So I am now researching LTCI, Interferon, ImmunoRegulin,  Staph Protein A -- 
all  the treatments I'm sure have been thoroughly  discussed on this forum 
before. Any consensus about what is most safe   effective? Because there do 
not 

seem to be any definitive clinical trials  or studies to go by. 


I will likely take care of Avis for the time he has left -- this is too  much 
for a busy, stressed out college student to handle.  Any  suggestions to keep 
Avis as strong and comfortable and happy as possible  for as long as possible 
will be very, very much appreciated. 


Thank you! 

Kris B. 



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ w/nonregenerative anemia

2010-09-30 Thread nise...@yahoo.com
Thanks for the kind welcome, Natalie!

It really was a joy to watch my feisty old terrier become such friends with a 
young cat. For whatever reason, they just clicked. I am glad it happened, 
because I think that Avis needs us. 


So are you doing anything special for your FeLV+ cats? Diet, supplements? How 
about stuff to avoid? Any insight is much appreciated.

KB





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 2:24:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+ 
w/nonregenerative anemia

That's so wonderful, Kris - now you know that your dog is really open to
another animal buddy!
I'm sure you'll get great advice from othersI am also fairly new to this
group and have two very healthy FeLV+ adult male cats.  I just wanted to
tell you that I am currently socializing two 3-month old kittens, they are
extremely well-adjusted.  Our small dog, a Shnorky (Schnauzer/Yorky) and the
male kitten absolutely love each other.  They chase each other, roll around,
chewing one another, playing hide and seek, pouncing out from behind the
hiding places, etc...and the female doesn't mind any of that craziness,
either!  None of the adult cats mind our dog, they were here first.  But I
am seriously considering not finding a home for Tobey because Cookie and he
are such great friends! Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of nise...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Trying to do the right thing for Avis who is FeLV+
w/nonregenerative anemia

I am so grateful to find this group. Please help me with your  collective 
experience  wisdom on this horrible disease. 


I don't have many specifics about Avis' history, but I gather that he  was a

stray in bad shape when he was rescued, then bounced around  before settling
in 
a dorm room with a college student friend of my  daughter. Avis is currently

about 21 months old. 


In May, I agreed to keep him for the summer. The original plan was that  he 
would live in my good-sized, many-windowed basement safely separated  from
Max, 
my 9 year old border terrier who has never shared his home  with another
animal. 
Avis would return to his college student when  school started after labor
day. 


I absolutely did not expect the silly dog  cat to become best friends in a

week, playing together all over the house. Max wasn't the only one who
quickly 
became fond of Avis, so I offered to keep him through  the school year to
avoid 
cooping him up in a dorm room. 


Avis came to us with a diagnosis of Feline Herpes  a third eyelid
permanently 
raised about halfway on one eye. A few days ago, I took him  to a vet 
ophthalmologist for a minor procedure to improve his vision. A  complete
blood 
workup was done as prep to general anesthesia. It showed  anemia, 
nonregenerative. WBC, Neutrophils  LYM were also very low normal. 


The eye procedure was postponed. I rushed Avis to my vet for a FeLV/FIV
test. 
Positive for FeLV, which was heartbreaking, but not really a surprise. 


Avis feels just fine right now.  But because he already has blood
abnormalities 
there is obviously no way to predict how long he will continue to feel good.
My 
vet says she is willing to try any reasonable option to give  him a chance
at as 
much good quality life as possible. 


So I am now researching LTCI, Interferon, ImmunoRegulin,  Staph Protein A --

all  the treatments I'm sure have been thoroughly  discussed on this forum 
before. Any consensus about what is most safe   effective? Because there do
not 
seem to be any definitive clinical trials  or studies to go by. 


I will likely take care of Avis for the time he has left -- this is too
much 
for a busy, stressed out college student to handle.  Any  suggestions to
keep 
Avis as strong and comfortable and happy as possible  for as long as
possible 
will be very, very much appreciated. 


Thank you! 

Kris B. 



  
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[Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic

2010-09-30 Thread czadna sacarawicz

vet told me that it had been discontinued.  
 
what do you recommend instead?
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for your messages of condolence

2010-09-30 Thread Cougar Clan
They do.  Dixie sent me Copper (a tiny kitten from the same pine  
thicket she came from) a month after she left and Thomas (another tiny  
kitten from the same pine thicket) two weeks latertake two, they  
are small.


And the ones that are sent are so special.

I am sorry for your loss and those of others on this list.  Dixie was  
FeLV+.  The boys are negative (thank you Lord).  I don't know who was  
the happiest when they were tested, the vets and their staff or me.
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:46 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET ANOTHER, THEY WILL COME TO YOU.   
EVERY TIME I LOOSE ONE, ANOTHER SHOWS UP.  BOB PASSED RECENTLY AND I  
EXPECT SOMEONE TO SHOW UP SOON.



 Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote:
I wanted to say a thank you for all your heartfelt messages of  
condolence for me
and my Cheshire.  You all are so kind, I wasn't expecting so many  
replies.  It's
a consolation to know so many people understand what it's like.   
The most
important thing is that she knew and still knows how much she's  
loved by me and

everyone who knew her.  I feel she's still with me.  Thanks Beth,
Catherine, Mike, Bonnie, Sharyl, Sherry Sara for lighting the  
candle for us,
Natalie for your poem, I want to hang it up, it sounds so true!
LauraM - I'm
sure Tiger knew how much you love him and that you were with him in  
spirit when

he passed, that's what matters, and the time

you spent together. I've been told that if you lose an animal, you  
go out

and get a new one, their soul may come back..   thanks all!!!



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Re: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic

2010-09-30 Thread Natalie
My vet just gave me some a few weeks ago.  That's odd.
There are other brands, some even available at pet supply stores.  It's not
the best, but OK.  Did your vet recommend anything to replace it?:

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vet told me that it had been discontinued.  
 
what do you recommend instead?
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic

2010-09-30 Thread Pat Kachur
I just typed Pfizer Pet Tinic into my browser and got hundreds of hits on 
where to buy this stuff.



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My vet just gave me some a few weeks ago.  That's odd.
There are other brands, some even available at pet supply stores.  It's 
not

the best, but OK.  Did your vet recommend anything to replace it?:

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna 
sacarawicz

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:05 PM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic


vet told me that it had been discontinued.

what do you recommend instead?



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[Felvtalk] Update on our Lydia

2010-09-30 Thread Anndrea DeLozier
I asked some questions a couple days or so ago, and got some wonderful
responses! However, I have not figured out how to reply to messages on here,
so I am starting a new thread.hope that's ok.

 

I got Lydia's lab work and it reads as follows (I am only posting the tests
that came up outside the normal range):

Globulin=2.8 (should be between 3.0-5.6)

Total Bilirubin=0.5 (should be between 0.0-0.4)

Direct Bilirubin=0.4 (should be between 0.0-0.2)

Cholesterol=68 (should be between 82-218)

Glucose=153 (should be between 70-150)

Potassium-3.6 (should be between 3.9-5.3)

A/G Ratio=1.2 (should be between 0.4-0.8)

RBC=3.44 (should be between 6.0-10.0)

HCT=16.0 (should be between 29-45)

NRBC=5 (should be between 0-2/100 WBC.WBC=9.1 - should be between 4.2-15.6)

Neutrophil Seg=18 (should be between 35-75)

Lymphocytes=57 (should be between 20-55)

Monocytes=5 (should be between 1-4)

Eosinophil=20 (should be between 2-12)

Auto Platelet=70 (should be between 170-600)

 

Then there's these, I have no clue what these (and most of the above) are.

Poikilocytosis - Slight

Platelet Comments - Platelets appear moderately decreased (50,000-120,000)

 

Remarks: WBC Corrected for presence of nucleated RBC's

Acanthocytes - slight

Rouleaux

Slide reviewed microscopically

 

Absolute Neutrophil Seg = 1638 (should be between 2500-12500)

 

Everything else showed as in the normal ranges listed with them.

 

At the top of the first page it says:

Reticulocyte count=0.7 (should be between 0-1)

Absolute reticulocyte=24080 (should be between 0-50,000)

An absolute reticulocyte count greater than 50,000 of blood is considered
evidence of regenerative anemia.

 Degree of regeneration: (aggregate reticulocytes)

 15,000 - NONE

   50,000 - SLIGHT

 100,000 - MODERATE

   200,000 - MARKED

 

FeLV antigen (ELISA) - POSITIVE (result has been duplicated)

 

I hope this isn't too long to post.I had no idea what people would or
wouldn't want to know. These results are of blood that was drawn on 9/17, I
have no idea what her numbers are now.

 

I did get her eating some stage 2 meat baby food. She's only eaten half a
jar, but that is more food in the last 24 hours than she probably ate the
few days before that.and before the baby food her food mostly consisted of
water. I am not force feeding at this time, since she sniffs it and eats on
her own, and drinks water on her own when she's thirsty.

 

She does seem to have some difficulty swallowing, but she is still getting
food and water down.

 

Also, what is the correct dosage of Pet Tinic for her? She is MAYBE 5lbs,
and the bottle says : dogs and cats 2.5 ml per 25lbs of body weight. So she
should get a fifth of that, which would be 0.5ml, right?

 

Thanks to anyone who has helped and might help in the future.and sorry again
for making this so long.

 

~Anndrea

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