Re: [Felvtalk] Hope, adult female testing faintly + on SNAP Sat, 7.23 AND Schmitzi, 10-week-old kitten
I agree with Natalie. Wait and re-test. So many other things could be making that noise in Hope's chest and the diarrhea. I think that certain parasites like giardia require a special kind of fecal test, not the normal ones that vets do, so that is definitely a possibility. Stress from being in the shelter could be another reason. One ELISA test is not enough to say that she definitely has FeLV so there's no need to tell animal control at this point. Especially since you are paying for everything and not them. It is weird that the vet vaccinated her against FeLV when she tested a faint positive. I had a friend tell me that her vet told her that the ELISA test is kind of sensitive and if it's not read at the time it is supposed to be read it can show a positive. For example, if they are supposed to let the test sit for 10 minutes, but they let it sit for 15 minutes before checking it then it could show a positive. It's also possible for her to extinguish the virus so you need to give her time, if you can, to see if her immune system can do it's job. You don't have bad judgement, just an extremely kind heart. Every cat is special and deserves a chance. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:12:17 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hope, adult female testing faintly + on SNAP Sat, 7.23 AND Schmitzi, 10-week-old kitten 10 weeks old could be an iffy age to test, that's why results could be iffy, and if exposed, the kittens may shed the faint positive when their immune systems develop. It would be important to feed them good supplements, good diet. My vet would NOT have used all those vaccines at the same time when their health was questionable - it's too much bombarding them with all those vaccines. If cats had the ELISA now, and they were negative, or tested faintly, to make sure, they should have another ELISA in 90 days, and if that is negative and you are satisfied, that should be IT. If the ELISA were to be positive, the IFA should be done almost immediately to confirm because ELISAs are often false positives. Seems that there's something else going on, like an URI, giardia (diarrhea). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:40 AM To: feline leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Hope, adult female testing faintly + on SNAP Sat, 7.23 AND Schmitzi, 10-week-old kitten what is done is done and don't ask me why or how. it is. don't ask me why AC didn't identify a sick-appearing cat am fostering these two from gassing-daily county pound since 7.16. suspected Hope had feline leukemia when I picked her up - - THIN and HOT. She and Schmitzi were housed side by side i.e. nose to nose for a week. spending my $. both have diarrhea. vet found them both negative for fecal parasites. gave Schmitzi strongid, gave me albon to give her and vaccinated her for feline leukemia, panleukopenia, herpes and calcivirus. next step is to do an IFA on Hope? interval? HOPE is not suffering. inactive. poor appetite. very, very sweet. if I tell AC chief she tested + I believe he will demand and gas her. lethal injection is supposed to be used for sick animals. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? both FIV negative. something going on in Hope's chest. periodic. not exactly like a sneeze or cough. vet did give azithromycin capsules any comments, other than the obvious - - this woman has no/poor judgment - - will be appreciated. thank you. c ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing
I know I have read there is a chance of a false positive with the snap test. I was wondering if the same with the Elisa test? Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing
YES, I believe so. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] testing I know I have read there is a chance of a false positive with the snap test. I was wondering if the same with the Elisa test? Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing
I thought that the snap test is one in the same as the ELISA. People just choose to call it a snap test or an ELISA test. - Original Message - From: Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] testing I know I have read there is a chance of a false positive with the snap test. I was wondering if the same with the Elisa test? Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing
Those are the same tests. The definitive test is the IFA (has to be sent to a lab). Recommended testing protocol is if the snap and IFA are different, test again in 120 days. Unfortunately for most rescues and shelters they don't have a place for keeping possibly positive cats for an additional 120 days. If the snap test was done using the new triple test (FIV, FeLV and heartworm) have it done again using the FeLV test only, if you can find a vet who has them. There have been many false positives reported with the triple test. Gary -- From: Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] testing I know I have read there is a chance of a false positive with the snap test. I was wondering if the same with the Elisa test? Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Elisa or snap test
Okay, my vet did the 3 way snap in the office with a positive result and I want a re-test. They send the blood to a local vet or lab and do a deep well Elisa. If this deep well Elisa test also has false positives, I will not do it. I can't see wasting money for a possible false positive. I want a test that I can rely upon the results. I would appreciate your advice. I'll have to press the issue or find another vet to do a different test. Thanks. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY can take??? Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you handsome orange and white baby boy Sherry PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight :) I love them ALL so much We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
Hi Sherry, I have added Zombo, so sorry, it's been a really rough week ... I feel like I've missed someone can you have a look when you're up to it and let me know, thanks. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, Zombo sounds like such a special treasure. I'm crying with you for his loss, and the loss of the way-too-many other SIDS kids who have left you these last couple of weeks. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to every one of them, and hugs to every one of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:07 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :( Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY can take??? Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you handsome orange and white baby boy Sherry PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight :) I love them ALL so much We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
