[Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Anna Yeutter
My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence)
who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I
bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his
first vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap
combo test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even
growled).

He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top
and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring
him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative
(the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has
been doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.

I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me
as well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off
campus into a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on
hold. This means Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of
love.

I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted
from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some
other people.
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Melinda Kerr
My kitten was diagnosed at around 8 weeks.  He had a few minor health issues at 
the time and I had him treated several times with antibiotics.  Since then he 
has had no obvious health issues.  He is now a year old.  I have never used any 
kind of supplements.  My treatment has been lots of love, trying to give 
somewhat healthy food (my options are limited) and making certain he remains 
healthy. 

 I have another FeLV cat that was diagnosed with lymphoma at 13 months, which 
led to discovering the FeLV.  I can't be certain, but the kitten may have 
become exposed due to my carelessness in allowing him to interact with my other 
cat too soon.  That being said, all of the signs were there and it is quite 
possible he was born with it.  I did not bother with follow-up testing because 
it would not have affected my treatment of the kitty.  

There are many treatments designed to prolong their lives.  However, my babies 
are too clever to trick by putting things in their food, water or treats.  You 
would think I was committing murder when pilling and I think injections would 
put them both over the edge!

Bottom line, I have two seemingly healthy FeLV cats, one who receives monthly 
treatments for cancer.  Both are quite playful, appear perfectly healthy and 
are completely loving life.  

There is a vast amount of experience with this group.  Many will give you 
varying opinions.  Most mix older vaccinated cats with FeLV kitties.  My 
experience and dread that I might have made VooDoo sick by exposing him too 
soon is probably an exception to the rule!

However, just know that your baby can live a long life!  Even as a college 
student on a limited budget, you can care for him and love him to keep him 
healthy!

Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo
On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Anna Yeutter wrote:

 My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence) 
 who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I 
 bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his 
 first vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap 
 combo test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even 
 growled).
 He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top 
 and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring 
 him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative 
 (the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has 
 been doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.
 I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me as 
 well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off campus 
 into a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on hold. This 
 means Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of love.
 I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted 
 from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some 
 other people. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread dot winkler
You are in a situation almost like me.  I have a one year old positive cat who 
came down with the virus in June.  I have had her separated from my other two 
cats since and it has been a crazy situation as I have a small house.  I have 
been trying to adopt her out with no luck yet.  A lot of people on this site 
say they integrate their healthy cats with the feline leuk positive ones and 
have had no real problems.  I am hesitant about it as my other healthy cat is a 
biter/nipper/claws when he plays.  There are a lot of conflicting opinions.  I 
have read they only can contract the virus through a bite where blood is drawn 
and then on the other hand, I have read that they can contract the virus 
through saliva, urine and feces as well.  What will you do with your 11 year 
old cat?  What will you do with the kitten?  



From: Anna Yeutter blackbelt.trek...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:26 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive


My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence) 
who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I 
bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his first 
vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap combo 
test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even growled).
He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top and 
the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring him in 
in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative (the vet 
made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has been doing 
well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.
I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me as 
well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off campus into 
a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on hold. This means 
Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of love.
I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted from 
reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some other 
people.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-14 Thread Lorrie
When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we
learned to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are
extremely intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We
really loved them.  I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are
being rounded up as the DNR calls its,  because of people building
houses and golf courses on lakes that have always been the habitat of
the geese.  The rounds ups are done when the geese are molting and
therefore flightless, and I was nearly arrested from interfering in
one of those horrible round ups, where they are herded the terrified
geese into pens and then gassed them.

I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and
they are barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended,
but I'm sure there are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a
sport says a lot about the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel
beings on the face of the earth!

Lorrie

On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
 
I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their menfolk
shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
them humanely.
 
It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood
lusty people amusing themselves.
 
Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Natalie


The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way
its animals are treated


*   Mahatma Gandhi

Yet in a way, I'd hate to think that the innocent animals that are being
abused so terribly all the time, are here merely as reincarnations of
horrible people, having reversed their roles. That our beloved pets, are
too.

Somehow, this whole things puts a big hole in reincarnation, to think that
after thousands of years, reincarnated beings haven't learned anything.

N

 

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.

~b.

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
they ever find another life-mate or not.

I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been
confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
humanely.

It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
people amusing themselves.

Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
THAT!

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
 
We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
Go figure!
 
When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
 
Georgetta


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Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.

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Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

Cell:785-230-6499

 

 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
humans. They have the same right to exist 

Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-14 Thread Natalie
I love Canada geese, they care for their babies together, with other family
members babysitting, etc. - not like ducks...poor mom duck has up to 12
babies, and no mate in sight.  Almost all usually are lost.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons

When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we learned
to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are extremely
intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We really loved them.
I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are being rounded up as the
DNR calls its,  because of people building houses and golf courses on lakes
that have always been the habitat of the geese.  The rounds ups are done
when the geese are molting and therefore flightless, and I was nearly
arrested from interfering in one of those horrible round ups, where they are
herded the terrified geese into pens and then gassed them.

I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and they are
barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended, but I'm sure there
are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a sport says a lot about
the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel beings on the face of the earth!

Lorrie

On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
 
I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their menfolk
shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
them humanely.
 
It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood
lusty people amusing themselves.
 
Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry to hear that.

Unfortunately, my expertise is with FIV, and the two cats that we had who
tested positive of FeLV on the combo tests, after being retested with the
IFA, were both negative! 

How old is Jean-Luc now?  Maybe it's too early to test, I now that with FIV,
it is.

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anna Yeutter
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

 

My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence)
who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I
bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his
first vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap
combo test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even
growled).

He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top
and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring
him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative
(the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has
been doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.

I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me
as well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off
campus into a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on
hold. This means Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of
love.

I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted
from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some
other people. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Lynda Wilson
Hi Anna!

Glad to have you aboard.  I would make sure your older cat is vaccinated 
against FeLV before having them together.  Even though the vaccine is 80% 
effective, it's better than no protection at all.  The vaccine has to be given 
in two doses, 3 weeks apart (so don't expose your older cat to the kitten until 
after the 2nd shot).  I know FeLV mostly effects kittens and senior cats.  With 
that said, there is still a chance the kitten can fight off the virus.  I would 
wait till he's at least 3 mos old and test him again. If he's positive on the 
ELISA test, then do an IFA as well. The IFA will indicate whether it is in the 
bone marrow. The IFA test has to be sent out to a lab.  Once the IFA is 
positive, then generally the cat is positive for life.  Please keep in mind 
that the ELISA test can have false positives so you still have hope. Either way 
though, please get your older kitty the vaccination. 

I hope this helps.  I hate this disease and all the if's and but's that go with 
it!

Lynda
**NOTE**  Never get a cat/kitten vaccinated against FIP, or it will be positive 
for FIP for life whether it has it or not!


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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:26 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive


  My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence) 
who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I 
bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his first 
vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap combo 
test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even growled).

  He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top 
and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring 
him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative 
(the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has been 
doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.

  I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me as 
well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off campus into 
a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on hold. This means 
Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of love.

  I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted 
from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some other 
people. 



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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread ccarlsberg
Hi Anna! I am so sorry about your situation. I have an 11 week old FELV+ kitten 
and we need to relocate it bc I have 2 cats at home. Its heart breaking. He 
seems so healthy and happy and is growing too. Its so hard, but they can live 
decent lives for a few good years
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread dot winkler
Yes, I need to find a home for my cat also who is one year old and has the FELV 
and I can't keep her with the other 2.  I can't seem to find a home for her.  
She is a viable cat, cute and spunky and pretty, doing wonderfully right now,  
other than that she has the FELV.  People don't understand that.  They are 
afraid as soon as they hear that word.  If you know of anyone who can help me 
as well, please let me know.  I have been in touch with various organizations, 
Rescue Ridge, Jersey Cats.  Still nothing.  Dotty Freehold, NJ



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Hi Anna! I am so sorry about your situation. I have an 11 week old FELV+ kitten 
and we need to relocate it bc I have 2 cats at home. Its heart breaking. He 
seems so healthy and happy and is growing too. Its so hard, but they can live 
decent lives for a few good years
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread April Johnson
Dot have you tried Best Little Cat house, 
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/
 
They take in FELV and FIV + cats and the cats live out their lives there.  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:41 AM
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Yes, I need to find a home for my cat also who is one year old and has the FELV 
and I can't keep her with the other 2.  I can't seem to find a home for her.  
She is a viable cat, cute and spunky and pretty, doing wonderfully right now,  
other than that she has the FELV.  People don't understand that.  They are 
afraid as soon as they hear that word.  If you know of anyone who can help me 
as well, please let me know.  I have been in touch with various organizations, 
Rescue Ridge, Jersey Cats.  Still nothing.  Dotty Freehold, NJ

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

Hi Anna! I am so sorry about your situation. I have an 11 week old FELV+ kitten 
and we need to relocate it bc I have 2 cats at home. Its heart breaking. He 
seems so healthy and happy and is growing too. Its so hard, but they can live 
decent lives for a few good years
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Natalie
Did you mean FIV?  

Although the FIP, does as well - because it's a corona virus,  much the same
as a common cold.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

 

Hi Anna!

 

Glad to have you aboard.  I would make sure your older cat is vaccinated
against FeLV before having them together.  Even though the vaccine is 80%
effective, it's better than no protection at all.  The vaccine has to be
given in two doses, 3 weeks apart (so don't expose your older cat to the
kitten until after the 2nd shot).  I know FeLV mostly effects kittens and
senior cats.  With that said, there is still a chance the kitten can fight
off the virus.  I would wait till he's at least 3 mos old and test him
again. If he's positive on the ELISA test, then do an IFA as well. The IFA
will indicate whether it is in the bone marrow. The IFA test has to be sent
out to a lab.  Once the IFA is positive, then generally the cat is positive
for life.  Please keep in mind that the ELISA test can have false positives
so you still have hope. Either way though, please get your older kitty the
vaccination. 

 

I hope this helps.  I hate this disease and all the if's and but's that go
with it!

 

Lynda

**NOTE**  Never get a cat/kitten vaccinated against FIP, or it will be
positive for FIP for life whether it has it or not!

 

 

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From: Anna Yeutter mailto:blackbelt.trek...@gmail.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:26 AM

Subject: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

 

My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks absence)
who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and who I
bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for his
first vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV snap
combo test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even
growled).

He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top
and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring
him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative
(the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has
been doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.

I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me
as well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off
campus into a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on
hold. This means Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of
love.

I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted
from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some
other people. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread ccarlsberg
Pa is so far! I am in Los Angeles :(
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Natalie
Sorry, Anna - I asked how old the kitten was, and I see that it's on the
subject line.My vet believes that at that young age, test results are not
definitive, and often come out positive, false or not.it's a toss-up! 

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

 

Dot have you tried Best Little Cat house,
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/

 

They take in FELV and FIV + cats and the cats live out their lives there.  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

Yes, I need to find a home for my cat also who is one year old and has the
FELV and I can't keep her with the other 2.  I can't seem to find a home for
her.  She is a viable cat, cute and spunky and pretty, doing wonderfully
right now,  other than that she has the FELV.  People don't understand that.
They are afraid as soon as they hear that word.  If you know of anyone who
can help me as well, please let me know.  I have been in touch with various
organizations, Rescue Ridge, Jersey Cats.  Still nothing.  Dotty Freehold,
NJ

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

Hi Anna! I am so sorry about your situation. I have an 11 week old FELV+
kitten and we need to relocate it bc I have 2 cats at home. Its heart
breaking. He seems so healthy and happy and is growing too. Its so hard, but
they can live decent lives for a few good years
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Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
aS A RACE, AREN'T WE A BUNCH.  mAYBE THE ANIMALS SHOULD RISE UP AND DO THE SAME 
TO US. I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY GOD I SO PATIENT WITH US. IF I WERE 
HE, I WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO ALL A LONG TIME AGO. 
But then, I guess that is why I am not God, my patience runs thin very fast.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I love Canada geese, they care for their babies together, with other family
 members babysitting, etc. - not like ducks...poor mom duck has up to 12
 babies, and no mate in sight.  Almost all usually are lost.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:19 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons
 
 When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we learned
 to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are extremely
 intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We really loved them.
 I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are being rounded up as the
 DNR calls its,  because of people building houses and golf courses on lakes
 that have always been the habitat of the geese.  The rounds ups are done
 when the geese are molting and therefore flightless, and I was nearly
 arrested from interfering in one of those horrible round ups, where they are
 herded the terrified geese into pens and then gassed them.
 
 I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and they are
 barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended, but I'm sure there
 are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a sport says a lot about
 the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel beings on the face of the earth!
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
 live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
 them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
 We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
 sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
  
 I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
 It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their menfolk
 shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
 dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
 disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
 up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
 at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
 roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
 flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
 over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
 necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
 pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
 them humanely.
  
 It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood
 lusty people amusing themselves.
  
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
  
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
You have hit the nail on the head, WE HAVE NOT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THE PAST.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 
 
 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way
 its animals are treated
 
 
 *   Mahatma Gandhi
 
 Yet in a way, I'd hate to think that the innocent animals that are being
 abused so terribly all the time, are here merely as reincarnations of
 horrible people, having reversed their roles. That our beloved pets, are
 too.
 
 Somehow, this whole things puts a big hole in reincarnation, to think that
 after thousands of years, reincarnated beings haven't learned anything.
 
 N
 
  
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:17 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
 treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
 who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
 learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.
 
 ~b.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
 of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
 bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
 they ever find another life-mate or not.
 
 I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
 Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been
 confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
 released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
 fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
 them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
 dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
 teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
 either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
 decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
 humanely.
 
 It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
 people amusing themselves.
 
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
 people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
 THAT!
 
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
 family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
  
 We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
 fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
 fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
 were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
 we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
 arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
 bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
 Go figure!
  
 When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
 in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
 sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
 both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
 unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
 annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
 few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
 admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
  
 Georgetta
 
 
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 Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.
 
 1550 S 2700 Rd.
 
 Herington, Kansas 67449
 
 Phone: 785-466-2501
 
 Cell:785-230-6499
 
  
 
  I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
 veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
 

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT SEEM TO LEARN.

 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
 treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
 who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
 learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.
 
 ~b.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
 of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
 bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
 they ever find another life-mate or not.
 
 I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
 Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been
 confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
 released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
 fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
 them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
 dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
 teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
 either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
 decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
 humanely.
 
 It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
 people amusing themselves.
 
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
 people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
 THAT!
 
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
 family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
  
 We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
 fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
 fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
 were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
 we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
 arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
 bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
 Go figure!
  
 When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
 in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
 sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
 both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
 unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
 annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
 few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
 admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
  
 Georgetta
 
 
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 Marcia Baronda
 
 Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.
 
 1550 S 2700 Rd.
 
 Herington, Kansas 67449
 
 Phone: 785-466-2501
 
 Cell:785-230-6499
 
  
 
  I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
 veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
 inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
 conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
 wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
 humans. They have the same right to exist as we do.  Don Hamilton DVM
 
  
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
oOPS, HIT SEND TOO OON.  eITHER WE DO NOT LEARN OR THOE WHO WERE TORTURED IN 
PREVIOUS LIFE NOW WANT TO TO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY HAVE DONE UNTO US.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
 treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
 who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
 learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.
 
 ~b.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
 of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
 bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
 they ever find another life-mate or not.
 
 I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
 Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been
 confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
 released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
 fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
 them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
 dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
 teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
 either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
 decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
 humanely.
 
 It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
 people amusing themselves.
 
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
 people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
 THAT!
 
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
 family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
  
 We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
 fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
 fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
 were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
 we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
 arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
 bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
 Go figure!
  
 When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
 in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
 sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
 both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
 unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
 annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
 few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
 admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
  
 Georgetta
 
 
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 Marcia Baronda
 
 Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.
 
 1550 S 2700 Rd.
 
 Herington, Kansas 67449
 
 Phone: 785-466-2501
 
 Cell:785-230-6499
 
  
 
  I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
 veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
 inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
 conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
 wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
 humans. They have the same right to exist as we do.  Don Hamilton DVM
 
  
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, then
when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt!
Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many
deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn
on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
animals.
- Original Message -
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


 On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:
Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
I don't see how anyone could do it.
  
 _

 I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are 
 so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
 It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally 
 it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes 
 to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing, 
 brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

 Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Lynda Wilson

Bonnie~

I think I can do that...he's still in Austin and still hunts...hm, when 
is deer season?
- Original Message - 
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, 
then

when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt!
Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so 
many

deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of 
corn

on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
animals.
- Original Message -
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters



On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:
   Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them 
hunt
   and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). 
At
   least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is 
so
   beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone 
have
   the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods 
and
   lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking 
sight.

   I don't see how anyone could do it.

_


I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are
so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally
it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes
to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing,
brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

Lorrie


Tripod and she
in
our yard

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Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge.
The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table.  The doctor stands
nearby looking at the chart and saying,  The bad news is you have advanced
case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should
be on the mend soon.
Ha!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons

aS A RACE, AREN'T WE A BUNCH.  mAYBE THE ANIMALS SHOULD RISE UP AND DO THE
SAME TO US. I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY GOD I SO PATIENT WITH US. IF
I WERE HE, I WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO ALL A LONG TIME AGO. 
But then, I guess that is why I am not God, my patience runs thin very fast.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I love Canada geese, they care for their babies together, with other 
 family members babysitting, etc. - not like ducks...poor mom duck has 
 up to 12 babies, and no mate in sight.  Almost all usually are lost.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:19 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons
 
 When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we 
 learned to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are 
 extremely intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We really
loved them.
 I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are being rounded up as 
 the DNR calls its,  because of people building houses and golf courses 
 on lakes that have always been the habitat of the geese.  The rounds 
 ups are done when the geese are molting and therefore flightless, and 
 I was nearly arrested from interfering in one of those horrible round 
 ups, where they are herded the terrified geese into pens and then gassed
them.
 
 I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and they 
 are barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended, but I'm 
 sure there are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a sport 
 says a lot about the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel beings on the
face of the earth!
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
 live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
 them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
 We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
 sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
  
 I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
 It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their menfolk
 shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
 dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
 disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
 up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
 at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
 roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
 flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
 over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
 necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
 pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
 them humanely.
  
 It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and
blood
 lusty people amusing themselves.
  
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
  
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
RE:  Lymphoma  Course it depends on which you have, Hodgkins or Non-Hodgkins as 
to treatment recommedment.  I had Perpherial T-cell which is non- Hodgkins.  
Iwent thru 3 chemos and not 1 of them did any good.  The last, Gymzar was 
killing off my red blood cells faster than I could make them (hemnoglobin of 
3.2) so we stopped it and I was told 3 months once again.  1 year later I went 
into spontaneous remission nd all tumors disappeared.  It has been 7 years and 
I am still in remission.  My oncologist has agreed to merely monitor me if it 
comes back and I will go back to the vitamin/mineal and prayers that I was on.  
I don't know how it would work with cats, but I would say find a good wholistic 
vet  and see what they say.  All the time I took the chemos, I was on vitamins 
and minerals.  If they did no good, at least they gave me the strength to 
endure the chemos.  I am now on a maintenance dose of vitamns and getting back 
to my old self.  The only lasting problem from the chemo is perpherial nerve 
damage in my hands - hard to work with beads when you cannot feel them, but I 
am working on it.I thnk it would be worth while to get him on a dose of 
vitamins.  At least they will give him some strength to endure his meds.


 Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: 
 
 We bought the oral chemo pills and I spoke to the doctor about Miller and 
 unfortunately, his is rather progressed and she said, on average, cats can 
 live another 6 months on the oral meds and up to 2-3 years with the 
 injectible chemo drugs.  We are going to try the injections this week and see 
 how he does.  Once Frank comes home from the road, he can go home twice a day 
 to administer the eye meds Miller needs so I won't have to chase him down, 
 put him in a carrier and take him to the vet's office to stay all day :(  I 
 just keep wondering if we are doing the right thing.  I don't want his last 
 days with us to be ones filled with vet visits and fear :(
  
 
 
 
 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:17 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I’ve had several friends whose cats had lymphoma, and one dealing with it 
 right now.  Her cat, Jasper, is NOT FeLV+, and is on oral chemo (Leukeron) 
 right now, 2X a week. It also depends on how much progressed it is.  So 
 sorry, I know how you feel – when all you do to a cat is give some kind of 
 treatment all the time, pretty soon they assume that you will do so every 
 time you approach them….
  
 
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(
  
 
 I am so sorry for your loss Sherry.
  
 Has anyone here dealt with Lymphoma in their kitties before?  Miller is not 
 Feluk+ but he was diagnosed with Lymphoma last week and I am not sure if the 
 treatment and stress of catching him to medicate him and take him to the vet 
 every day this week (hubby is out of town and he needs eye meds 4 times a 
 day) is worse than the actual disease :(  He is so stressed and he won't even 
 let me pet him anymore, he just runs from me :(
  
 
 
 
 
 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:32:23 -0500
 From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avery Please add to the CLS :*(
 
 Im so sorry Sherry3  Animals have the purest of soulssometimes I just 
 don't understand their deaths!
 
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 We lost our Sids kid Avery today...He was a beautiful fluffy gray guy with 
 the most beautiful eyes. He will be missed by MANY volunteers. I love you 
 Avery sweet boy.
 
 Sherry
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
 
 than our own,
 
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 
 We still would have it no other way
 
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  I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
BUT, you don't understad, Us Good Ole Boys have to prove our manhood by hunting 
these cratures.  And ALL US GOOD OLE BOYS stick together like glue.  Even if 
you saw one fire he hot that hit you, the would question your intelligence.  
Anybody remember an incident up north a few years back when a woman was shot 
and killed while hanging out laundry in her back yard.  THE JUDGE MIND YOU said 
she should have known better than to go outside 1st day o the season.  You 
don't have to be uneducated to be dumb!
At least in pioneer days, they hunted for food and did not go crazy like they 
do today.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I can't imagine much meat on them, and I doubt they're willing to cook them
 for an ounce of meat - it's only for sport, and the pigeons they shoot are
 trapped in cities and transported to the shooting sites.  That's why they're
 in those traps for so long without food or water.  Some even die in there.
 
 99% of deer hunting is for a trophy!  If they want to eat deer that have
 been eating toxic substances, or get something like mad Cow disease, in deer
 it's Chronic Wasting, it doesn't show up in a long time, like 20 yrs or
 more...
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 Oh my gosh!! I could not put up with all that as long as you did! Is Dove
 meat really that good? I would not think there would be much meat on them.
 
  
 
 Dove hunting is still popular here in Texas and I don't like it. My bird
 feeder stays full all the time and I have two doves that come in the late
 afternoon and feed on the seed that is on the ground around the bird feeder.
 They are beautiful birds.  I only have one pigeon that lost it's mate about
 3 yrs ago that comes around my feeder as well.  I could never imagine
 shooting them.
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Georgetta Brickey mailto:gebr...@hotmail.com  
 
 To: FeLV List mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
 
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:51 PM
 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
 family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
  
 We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
 fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
 fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
 were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
 we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
 arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
 bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
 Go figure!
  
 When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
 in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
 sitting on coolers of beer with umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
 both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
 unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
 annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
 few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
 admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
  
 Georgetta
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread dlgegg
My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits ever so 
often.  If we left things up to nature, there would be no overpopulation of 
deer, etc.  The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would keep things in balance.  
But of course, we all kow these animals are dangerous and will kill us.  They 
will if we are stupid and aggrevate them.  Run and that will trigger the 
preditor instinct.  They have to be hungry before they will deal wth humans.  
My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road.  I even talk to him, 
he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a stupid old woman. We 
even have a bear across the river in an old barn and he/she has never bothered 
anyone arund this area.  In fact, you have to be lucky or really trying to 
catch sight of them.


 Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: 
 My boss has 16 acres in a rural area. He's got a deer feeder there, and also
 has a place WAY up north, where baby bears sometimes come to raid the animal
 feeders he's got there. But he's also got like 97,000 guns of all types, and
 goes out gopher-hunting on his LawnBoy. I have to really zen out when he's
 talking about things he's killed. BTW, he is our county's Medical Examiner
 and has seen more human devastation and death than anybody ever should have
 to. I just get to see pictures of it. You would think he'd want to get as
 far from death as possible in his off-time, but no.
 
  
 
 Diane R.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:56 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
  
 
 Hysterical!  L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt and
 actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At least
 they are eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so beautiful a
 creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have the heart to kill
 them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and lands.  To see one in your
 yard is a special and breathtaking sight.   I don't see how anyone could do
 it.  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters
 
 Oh how I hate hunters. They are not conservationists, but murderers.
 No hunting is allowed in our resort community, but we can hear them
 in the surrounding areas getting ready for the killing, which they
 think of as sport!  I love it when I read in the paper about hunting
 accidents where some jerk head hunter shot his buddy instead of the
 deer!!
 
 Lorrie
 
 
  On 09-12, Natalie wrote: 
 
  What really pisses me off when those damned hunters refer to
  themselves, and are referred to as the only real
  conservationists...what a joke!
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Marcia Baronda
thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell!

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

 It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many
 deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
 worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn
 on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
 sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
 animals.
 - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


 On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:

   Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
   and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
   least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
   beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
   the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
   lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
   I don't see how anyone could do it.
 __**__**
 _


 I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are
 so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
 It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally
 it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes
 to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing,
 brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

 Lorrie


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**
** *I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
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Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

2011-09-14 Thread Marcia Baronda
You arent kidding when you say there is conflicting info. That is exactly
why I got on this list. Everyone on here really cares about cats and the
diseases that affect them. You came to the right place. There is a  vet
online, Mike Richards DVM, who has some pretty good info on FeLV. Try to
give the best food you possibly can. Nutrition is extremely important.
Take care
Marcia

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Anna Yeutter
blackbelt.trek...@gmail.comwrote:

 My previous foster baby (and now adopted baby, after a couple weeks
 absence) who was found when he was two weeks old in a Costco parking lot and
 who I bottle fed and fostered from when he was three weeks old, went in for
 his first vet visit today. The first thing the vet did was do the FeLV/FIV
 snap combo test after drawing some blood (oh boy Jean-Luc screamed and even
 growled).

 He walked back in later and showed me the kit with the blue dot at the top
 and the slight positive result for FeLV. I made another appointment to bring
 him in in three weeks to check again, but walked away feeling very negative
 (the vet made me feel like he was doomed). As of this moment, Jean-Luc has
 been doing well, gaining weight, playing actively and eating normally.

 I was going to have my parents bring my 11 year old cat up to live with me
 as well on Saturday (I'm a college student and just recently moved off
 campus into a pet-friendly apartment), but of course that has been put on
 hold. This means Jean-Luc is a very spoiled only-kitten, getting lots of
 love.

 I've tried to do some reading but it is so overwhelming and I'm exhausted
 from reading all the conflicting opinions. I would love to hear from some
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Lynda Wilson
Marcia, I totally agree!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcia Baronda 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


  thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell!


  On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net 
wrote:

It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many 
deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I worked 
for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn on the 
ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I 
certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals.
- Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters




  On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:

  Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
  and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
  least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
  beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
  the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
  lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
  I don't see how anyone could do it.
_


  I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are
  so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
  It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally
  it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes
  to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing,
  brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

  Lorrie


  Tripod and she
  in
  our yard

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  Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.
  1550 S 2700 Rd.
  Herington, Kansas 67449
  Phone: 785-466-2501
  Cell:785-230-6499

   I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a 
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who 
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my 
conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or wild, 
have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit humans. 
They have the same right to exist as we do.  Don Hamilton DVM




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Re: [Felvtalk] BEST LITTLE CATHOUSE

2011-09-14 Thread dot winkler
I am not sure if I tried that one.  (best little cat house).  It may be that I 
did. I'll check tomorrow.  There was one that I tried and they said they were 
full up and to try back in Nov or Dec.  That may have been the Best Little Cat 
House. Not sure. I'll check. Thanks.  Dot



From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive


Dot have you tried Best Little Cat house, 
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/
 
They take in FELV and FIV + cats and the cats live out their lives there.  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive


Yes, I need to find a home for my cat also who is one year old and has the FELV 
and I can't keep her with the other 2.  I can't seem to find a home for her.  
She is a viable cat, cute and spunky and pretty, doing wonderfully right now,  
other than that she has the FELV.  People don't understand that.  They are 
afraid as soon as they hear that word.  If you know of anyone who can help me 
as well, please let me know.  I have been in touch with various organizations, 
Rescue Ridge, Jersey Cats.  Still nothing.  Dotty Freehold, NJ

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 10 week old baby with slight positive

Hi Anna! I am so sorry about your situation. I have an 11 week old FELV+ kitten 
and we need to relocate it bc I have 2 cats at home. Its heart breaking. He 
seems so healthy and happy and is growing too. Its so hard, but they can live
 decent lives for a few good years
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