Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-16 Thread MaiMaiPG
 Factory farmed animals need protection too.  I understand that  
chickens can be caged with as little as 12 inches of space, with their  
beaks cut off, etc while veal calves have little or no room to move  
since that leads to muscles and less tender meat.  Talk about sick.

On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:

Sick bastards.sorry but that's mild compared to what I'd really  
like to say. The HSUS does a lot of good work. Maybe someday soon  
they will tackle this one. My state rep tried to tell me (in a form  
letter of course) that animals have enough protection. If he's that  
stupid or thinks I am, then it scares me that he's in the position  
he's in!


Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,  
Christmas 2010.


On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

I have a video of this, and it’s amazing, when we showed it in a  
lobby of an auditorium before a vote was taken on hiring these paid  
guns, very few people wanted to look, and if they did, they said  
that the deer must be killed, so what difference does it make  on  
how…..




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How horrible.

On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Natalie wrote:




It’s legal for some, like the hired guns, sharpshooters; they bait  
the area for weeks before, then come in at night, have bright  
lights, and all the deer just walk up to the slaughter. If they’re  
not dead, they put a plastic bag over their heads to finish them  
off, while they drag them away, still kicking….Or the use a large  
net that drops on a bunch of deer in a baited area, they really  
struggle, while they shoot them (not easy to aim well at a  
thrashing animal!)


There’s such great sportsmanship involved, it’s hard to respect or  
even like these guys!




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They call it baiting in Ky and it is illegal here...doesn't keep  
people from doing it though.


On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:





thats entrapment, and i think it's illegal as hell!

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net 
 wrote:


It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were  
so many deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them.  
In fact, I worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and  
have a pile of corn on the ground, wait for the deer to start  
eating and shoot it. It made me sick and I certainly gave him my  
opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful animals.
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On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:

  Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them  
hunt
  and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it  
(yuck!). At
  least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal  
is so
  beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone  
have
  the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our  
woods and
  lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking  
sight.

  I don't see how anyone could do it.
_


I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are
so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally
it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes
to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing,
brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

Lorrie


Tripod and she
in
our yard

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Marcia Baronda

Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.

1550 S 2700 Rd.

Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

Cell:785-230-6499



 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals.  
As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these  
wonderful beings who inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this  
journey with us. It is my conviction that these animals,and all  
plants and animals, domesticated or wild, have inherent rights that  
are separate from their ability to benefit humans. They have the  
same right to exist as 

Re: [Felvtalk] Factory Farming

2011-09-16 Thread Lorrie
Right, factory farming is extremely cruel. Animals seem to be treated
horribly regardless of whether they are wild animals, domestic
animals or even pets in some cases.  What gets me is people who have
pampered pets but care absolutely nothing about how other animals are
treated...


On 09-16, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 Factory  farmed  animals  need  protection  too.   I  understand that
chickens can be caged with as little as 12 inches of space, with their
beaks  cut  off,  etc while veal calves have little or no room to move
since that leads to muscles and less tender meat.  Talk about sick.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Factory Farming

2011-09-16 Thread Marcia
Yes Veal calves r sick for their very short lives. And very anemic, hence the 
light color meat. They lick thebars of their cages for iron. One ofthe most 
barbaric practices I've heard of. Let alone that they r taken away from their 
mothers who have  a very strongmaternal bond. very sad. We don't need milk 
after we r babies!! But the dairy industry tells us we do.

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On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Right, factory farming is extremely cruel. Animals seem to be treated
 horribly regardless of whether they are wild animals, domestic
 animals or even pets in some cases.  What gets me is people who have
 pampered pets but care absolutely nothing about how other animals are
 treated...
 
 
 On 09-16, MaiMaiPG wrote:
Factory  farmed  animals  need  protection  too.   I  understand that
   chickens can be caged with as little as 12 inches of space, with their
   beaks  cut  off,  etc while veal calves have little or no room to move
   since that leads to muscles and less tender meat.  Talk about sick.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Factory Farming

2011-09-16 Thread dlgegg
Yet we call ourselves CIVILIZED!
 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Yes Veal calves r sick for their very short lives. And very anemic, hence the 
 light color meat. They lick thebars of their cages for iron. One ofthe most 
 barbaric practices I've heard of. Let alone that they r taken away from their 
 mothers who have  a very strongmaternal bond. very sad. We don't need milk 
 after we r babies!! But the dairy industry tells us we do.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  Right, factory farming is extremely cruel. Animals seem to be treated
  horribly regardless of whether they are wild animals, domestic
  animals or even pets in some cases.  What gets me is people who have
  pampered pets but care absolutely nothing about how other animals are
  treated...
  
  
  On 09-16, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 Factory  farmed  animals  need  protection  too.   I  understand that
chickens can be caged with as little as 12 inches of space, with their
beaks  cut  off,  etc while veal calves have little or no room to move
since that leads to muscles and less tender meat.  Talk about sick.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars

2011-09-16 Thread dlgegg
just 38 miles north of St. Louis, Mo.  
One was shot in southern MO just a couple of weeks ago.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and
 beautiful.  We don't have any around here, as they were all killed
 years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where
 do you live that you still have cougars around?
 
  On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits
  ever so often.  If we left things up to nature, there would be no
  overpopulation of deer, etc.  The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear
  would keep things in balance.  But of course, we all kow these
  animals are dangerous and will kill us.  They will if we are stupid
  and aggrevate them.  Run and that will trigger the preditor
  instinct.  They have to be hungry before they will deal wth humans. 
  My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road.  I even
  talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a
  stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old
  barn and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area.  In
  fact, you have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them.
  
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-16 Thread dlgegg
I did that one time and then called the sheriff and told them I was scared to 
death, these men were on my ground and had guns.  They never came back after 
that and the word got around that I would report them and others stopped doing 
that.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and
 walk back into the woods.  We could hear them, but never find them,
 so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began
 letting the air out of their tires!
 
 
 Lorrie
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-16 Thread dlgegg
I love this one.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out
  and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's
  exam table.  The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and
  saying,  The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good
  news is they've about run their course and you should be on the
  mend soon. Ha!
 
 
 LOVE IT!  I have a cartoon that shows a human strapped to am exam
 table with two dogs testing products on him.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-16 Thread dlgegg
People like that should be shot.


 molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 LOL - too funny!  Thanks for a great laugh.  Except for one thing.  Instead 
 of baseball bat to the butt, should be upside his head.  There must be blood 
 or he won't learn his lesson!

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From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Date: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 5:41 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, then
when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt!
Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda!
~Bonnie

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It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many
deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn
on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
animals.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
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 On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:
Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
I don't see how anyone could do it.
  
 _

 I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are 
 so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
 It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally 
 it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes 
 to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing, 
 brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

 Lorrie


 Tripod and she
 in
 our yard

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