Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-09 Thread Beth
Eating any kind of litter. And, yes. It's called PICA. They really aren't sure 
exactly why cats do it with anemia, except that they probably feel they are 
missing something. Same reason people do it, I guess. It somehow replaces 
something they are lacking.Mine would also lick the cement  brick fireplace 
surrounds in my house. 

I had to replace to litter with shredded paper. That they would not eat.
Once I see them doing that now I don't keep them going. I just don't want them 
suffering.

Beth

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 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 

Eating what kind of litter indicates anemia, per Beth?

BTW, I use Yesterday's News.


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:51 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

Eating clumping litter that contains sodium bentonite can be lethal because it 
can solidify in the intestines, if inhaled, can cause lungs to fill, can also 
block urethras. If the instructions on litter say “do not flush down the 
toilet” because it will cause blockage, it contains sodium bentonite, and will 
do the same to a cat.  They are not required to say so on the package, why?  I 
don’t know.
Was that your question?
Natalie
 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 
What kind of litter?
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from 
anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good 
preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start 
working. 
I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a 
choice that only you can make.
My thought are with you  your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer.
Beth
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Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM

Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't 
see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-09 Thread dlgegg
Where did you get a stainless steel fountain?  


 Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: 
 Natalie,
 Manny loves to drink out of the faucet! Please let me know where you found 
 your fountain.  I'll check with my vet about sub-q fluids. 
 
 On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:26 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Apple cider vinegar, unpasteurized...and Vitamin C, too.  The water fountain
  should be stainless steel, not plastic. I just ordered another one, on sale.
  I'll find the site, and pass it on later. Does Manny like to drink from a
  faucet at all?  Sub-q fluids can add years to their liveseasy to do.
  Natalie
  


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-09 Thread dlgegg
We LOVE mackerel, it smells so much!!!~

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I haven’t met a cat yet that doesn’t like Boston Market chicken – I used to 
 trap cats with it, too. Mackerel is great too – the kind for people, not for 
 cats.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:10 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site
 
  
 
 Yes, for one of my kits, I spread a thin layer of baby food on top of 
 healthier food---just enough to get the smeller going.   You can also crumble 
 kibble on top of better food, or use other really smelly bribe foods as 
 toppers, e.g., bonito flakes, tuna water, crushed dried tuna, nutritional 
 yeast, etc.
 
 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  
 
 YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they 
 won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing.  One of mine 
 will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better 
 that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie
 
  
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:10 PM
 
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
 
  
 
 There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research 
 more on this.   Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks.
 
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry 
 food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's 
 probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on 
 some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots 
 of love from this sweet, black cat!
 
  
 
 Valerie
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Here it is:
 
 http://www.felinecrf.org/ 
 
  
 
 I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the 
 levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.
 
 I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and 
 whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.
 
 Natalie
 
  
 
 
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[Felvtalk] Clumping litters - safer alternative (cheaper)

2012-02-09 Thread Georgetta Brickey

Hi folks,
 
I usually just read and learn here since I foster bottle baby kittens for a 
local rescue and have only had one kitten confirmed positive for FeLV out of 
hundreds fostered.
 
I use pelleted chicken feed as litter for kittens learning to use the 
litterbox.  At that age non-clumping clay litter should always be used since 
kittens learning to use the litterbox sometimes taste the litter or play in 
it, or get it stuck between their toes.  I learned about using chicken feed 
instead a few years ago at the yahoo orphan kittens list group.
 
You can buy it in 50 pound bags for around $16 per bag.  I use the laying hen 
pellets, but other people use the crumble which is more sandlike and much much 
messier!  The pellets are the same size and shape as yesterdays news litter, 
but the big advantage for me is that the litter clumps very mildly - enough 
that I can scoop out pee clumps.  Since it is chicken feed, if they eat it... 
no big deal.
 
Hope this helps someone!
 
Georgetta in Ventura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-09 Thread GRAS
I'll send you the info - too large for sending to group unless I cut down
significantly.

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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Val Green
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

Where did you get a stainless steel fountain?  


 Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: 
 Natalie,
 Manny loves to drink out of the faucet! Please let me know where you found
your fountain.  I'll check with my vet about sub-q fluids. 
 
 On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:26 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Apple cider vinegar, unpasteurized...and Vitamin C, too.  The water 
  fountain should be stainless steel, not plastic. I just ordered another
one, on sale.
  I'll find the site, and pass it on later. Does Manny like to drink 
  from a faucet at all?  Sub-q fluids can add years to their liveseasy
to do.
  Natalie
  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-09 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
PETCO HAS THEM


From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
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Cc: Val Green harpestry...@aol.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

Where did you get a stainless steel fountain?  


 Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: 
 Natalie,
 Manny loves to drink out of the faucet! Please let me know where you found 
 your fountain.  I'll check with my vet about sub-q fluids. 
 
 On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:26 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Apple cider vinegar, unpasteurized...and Vitamin C, too.  The water fountain
  should be stainless steel, not plastic. I just ordered another one, on sale.
  I'll find the site, and pass it on later. Does Manny like to drink from a
  faucet at all?  Sub-q fluids can add years to their liveseasy to do.
  Natalie
  


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