Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2012-02-16 Thread Beth
I had a cat like that - Sounded like upper resp because of 
scar tissue. She had been a street cat for many many years  vet 
said it was due to not being treated for URI's. They said they could do 
surgery  clear out the scar tissue, but it might come back, so I 
opted not to do it. She always sounded like she had a URI, but she 
didn't.
 
Beth
 
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 From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
 

 
Thanks for your comments.  I trust us and our insights and experience.
 
My heart and gratitude are with always at SIDS and today also with Dublin.  My 
Pooshie appeared to be blinded after being neutered.  It took several weeks but 
it wore off.  May it be for Dublin and you.
 
re:  Yahmuna:  FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC patio 
on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell.  Went into rescue in 
7.2011.  they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and 
azythromycin nasal drops.  She had chronic respiratory issues there.  air 
quality seemed good.  I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her 
home forever.  Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she 
will always be loud breather.  He said to discontinue treatment and treat her 
when she becomes symptomatic.   I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER 
AT VET's OFFICE.  no carpet. Her breathing is loud;  This morning there was 
a wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye.  I have humidifier going 
continually/ she comes for showers.  is sequestered in same bedroom where she 
was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.    THANK YOU!!!   cz.   



 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties


Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion 
every 6 months when the weather changed  I started the furnace or air 
conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV  lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats 
for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's 
in the house  he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with 
a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything,

If you are worried about  about fighting  transferring the FIV, you can have 
the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds  minimize chance 
of passing the FIV.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
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Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
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  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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[Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Terri Brown
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Hello everyone,

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me 
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT have 
FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 (right 
after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.  He 
was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, soiling 
himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had fluid all in 
and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had threw a clot, 
which is what paralyzed him.

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he 
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they 
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss 
you forever.

  
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  May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012 
=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Beth
Aw, so sad. I'm glad you were there with him when this happened. I had 2 cats who threw clot  passed away. On was FelV+  the other was a non-FeLV+ with Cardiomyopathy.Hugs to you. I know this is difficulty..BethDon't Litter, Fix Your Critter!www.Furkids.org  From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com To: RQP resqp...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Persian_Rescue persian_res...@yahoogroups.com; FLUTD listserv fl...@yahoogroups.com  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie   


 


 


  
  
  
  
  
  
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Hello everyone,

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left 
me for the Rainbow Bridge. He was the last of my original group who did 
NOT have FeLV. He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 
2005 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

He was fine all day yesterday. Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or 
breathe. He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters 
behind him, soiling himself. I rushed him to the local vet, who told me 
that he had fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure 
and had threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he 
ended up not needing the help. They gave him a sedative, and before they 
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy. Meowmy and Daddy 
will miss you forever.



  
  

  
  

  May 2000 - Feb 15, 
2012

=^..^= Terri,Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and8 furangels: 
 Ruthie, 
Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
Vampire=^..^=

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi everyone
Great source of info on FIP is The Orion Society. They have a list, just
like this one that deals with FIP. I had a cat die from it years ago, still
breaks my heart. Horrible disease, but true, hard to read blood tests. I
would highly suggest checking out the list. A great big bunch of
knowledgeable people on there, dedicated to dealing with this disease. It
was my understanding, that the cat has to be exposed over and over again to
a particular coronavirus.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

 **
 Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against
 it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive
 for it if given the vaccination..

 This is too important not to mention

 L

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.
 Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP is
 caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health
 in general.  Lee

   *From:* GRAS g...@optonline.net
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

   YES!

  *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?

  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at
 all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on
 the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a
 round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still
 isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours,
 more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP).
 He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a
 lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so
 I don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We
 had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the
 booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every
 year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
 else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine,
 hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6
 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot
 of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was
 then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so
 settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I
 think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would
 groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has
 immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread terrie

Terri,
I know I don't post very oftenas Ido read the postings but had to respond to yours.
I'm so sorry for your loss of Siggie!
How heart breaking to lose Siggie so fast!
I'm so glad you were with him in the time of need. Bless your heart!
Sending hugs to you!
It's never easy to lose our furbabies especially so suddenly.
I remember Siggie and your time on this group. As we have been on here a very long time. Not sure on how many years as I've been here since 2002.
He will be greeted by all those that have gone before him at the Rainbow Bridge.
I know my late husband will be waiting for the newest angel.
R.I.P. Siggie!

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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

2012-02-16 Thread Marcia Baronda
My vet said as long as there are Felv+ cats that the negatives are exposed to. 

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
 Hi Everyone
  
 I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
 cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, 
 and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
  
 Details:
 Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
  
 Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.
  
 Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.
  
 If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
  
 Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
 Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
 Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
 Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
 with a reasonable quality?
  
 Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
  
 Vicky
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Terri Brown
Thanks, Terrie.  I joined the list in 1999, when I lost my first FeLV+ cat, 
Samantha.  So yes -- it's been a long time.  I've been lurking since Salome' 
passed since she was my last FeLV+.

It IS heartbreaking.  I love him so much.I will miss him terribly.

T
  - Original Message - 
  From: ter...@tazzys.orgmailto:ter...@tazzys.org 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie


  Terri,
  I know I don't post very often as I do read the postings but had to respond 
to yours.
  I'm so sorry for your loss of Siggie!
  How heart breaking to lose Siggie so fast!
  I'm so glad you were with him in the time of need. Bless your heart!
  Sending hugs to you!
  It's never easy to lose our furbabies especially so suddenly.
  I remember Siggie and your time on this group. As we have been on here a very 
long time. Not sure on how many years as I've been here since 2002.
  He will be greeted by all those that have gone before him at the Rainbow 
Bridge.
  I know my late husband will be waiting for the newest angel.
  R.I.P. Siggie!



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  Sultan, WA. 98294
  Terrie Mohr-Forker
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Lynda Wilson
Terri,

So sorry for your loss of Siggie.  Orange tabbies are very dear to my heart! 
RIP, Siggie.

Hugs to you Terri~
Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Terri Brown 
  To: RQP ; felvtalk ; Persian_Rescue ; FLUTD listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:24 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie


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  Hello everyone,

  Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

  Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me 
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT have 
FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 (right 
after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

  He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.  
He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, 
soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had fluid 
all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had threw a 
clot, which is what paralyzed him.

  The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he 
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they 
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

  Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss 
you forever.

   
May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012 
  =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
  Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie 
the Tomato Vampire =^..^=
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Jannes Taylor
So very sorry! My heart goes out to you..


Jannes 



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Terri,

So sorry for your loss of Siggie. Orange tabbies are very dear to my heart! RIP, Siggie.

Hugs to you Terri~
Lynda

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From: Terri Brown 
To: RQP ; felvtalk ; Persian_Rescue ; FLUTD listserv 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:24 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie








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Hello everyone,

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me for the Rainbow Bridge. He was the last of my original group who did NOT have FeLV. He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

He was fine all day yesterday. Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe. He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, soiling himself. I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he ended up not needing the help. They gave him a sedative, and before they injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy. Meowmy and Daddy will miss you forever.









May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012

=^..^= Terri,Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and8 furangels:  Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire=^..^=

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[Felvtalk] FW: FIP

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
 

Also, DO NOT VACCINATE against FIV - cat will always test positive.even when
not!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FIP

 

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it.
The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for
it if given the vaccination..

 

This is too important not to mention

 

L

- Original Message - 

From: Lee Evans mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 

There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.
FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's
definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for
corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested
very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that
he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in
general.  Lee

 

From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 

YES!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 

Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?

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[Felvtalk] Fw: FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Lee Evans



- Forwarded Message -
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP


I didn't know there was a vaccine for FIP.  I know there's a vaccine for FIV 
which causes the cat to test positive for FIV.  If the cat is picked up by 
animal control or someone rescues the cat should he/she get lost, the cat will 
test positive for FIV and most likely be euthanized because there are still 
vets who think that this is a fatal and contagious disease and most animals 
controls will put the cat down immediately. 




From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP


Hi everyone 
Great source of info on FIP is The Orion Society. They have a list, just like 
this one that deals with FIP. I had a cat die from it years ago, still breaks 
my heart. Horrible disease, but true, hard to read blood tests. I would highly 
suggest checking out the list. A great big bunch of knowledgeable people on 
there, dedicated to dealing with this disease. It was my understanding, that 
the cat has to be exposed over and over again to a particular coronavirus. 


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..
 
This is too important not to mention
 
L
- Original Message - 
From: Lee Evans 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
general.  Lee



From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


YES!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
Hi Everyone


I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, 
and of those two, one is FIP positive as well 
:(...

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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
 

Terri, I am so sorry about Siggie!  

 

We are away, and keep waiting for word about one of our cats that I’ve been
treating for CRF and cardiomyopathy for 1 ½ yrs. – she took a turn for the
worse (because I’m gone), and may have to be euthanized.

 

Regarding clots that paralyze:  I’ve had this happen to three cats, not
during regular vet office hours, and emergency clinics euthanized.  Two cats
didn’t seem to be in distress, another one cried and cried in pain.

Then I had a feral cat that had a clot, I took him to my vet, he certainly
didn’t say anything about euthanasia – dissolved the clot with meds, the
cats has a limp as a result, but has been fine for about 5 years now.

Natalie

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Terri

My condolences to you on the loss of your beautiful orange boy.  May your
sweet memories of time together heal your heart, and may Siggie play in the
meadows of peace.

B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:24 AM
To: RQP; felvtalk; Persian_Rescue; FLUTD listserv
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

 


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Hello everyone,

 

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

 

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT
have FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005
(right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

 

He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.
He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him,
soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had
fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had
threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

 

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

 

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss
you forever.

 

 


 
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=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Sharyl
Terri, I was saddened to read that Siggie has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You gave him the greatest gift you could - freedom from pain and suffering. He is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels. I know my orange boy, Albert, will show him around.You are in my thoughts and prayersSharylFrom: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com To: RQP resqp...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Persian_Rescue persian_res...@yahoogroups.com; FLUTD listserv fl...@yahoogroups.com  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie   

 


 


  
  
  
  
  
  
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Hello everyone,

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left 
me for the Rainbow Bridge. He was the last of my original group who did 
NOT have FeLV. He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 
2005 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

He was fine all day yesterday. Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or 
breathe. He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters 
behind him, soiling himself. I rushed him to the local vet, who told me 
that he had fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure 
and had threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he 
ended up not needing the help. They gave him a sedative, and before they 
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy. Meowmy and Daddy 
will miss you forever.



  
  

  
  

  May 2000 - Feb 15, 
2012

=^..^= Terri,Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and8 furangels: 
 Ruthie, 
Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
Vampire=^..^=

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Sharyl
This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for FIP.  
Sharyl


- Original Message -
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's definitely 
not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and 
never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona 
virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to 
contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't 
think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is 
not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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[Felvtalk] I am always with her

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
For everyone who has lost a precious feline! Natalie

I Am Always With Her

 

And God Asked the Feline Spirit,

Are you Ready to Come Home?

Oh Yes, Quite So, Replied the Precious Soul,

And As a Cat, You Know I Am Most Able To

Decide Anything For Myself.Are You Coming Then? Asked God.

Soon, Replied the Whiskered Angel, For You See, I Must Come Slowly,

For My Human Friend is Troubled and Sad and She Needs Me Quite Certainly.

 

Doesn't She Understand, Asked God, That You Will Never Leave Her

That Your Souls Are Intertwined For All Eternity.

That Nothing Is Created or Destroyed! 

It Just Is.Forever and Ever.

 

Eventually She Will Understand, Replied the Glorious Cat 

For I Will Whisper Into Her Heart That I Am Always With Her!

I Just Am, Forever and Ever

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Try searching for FIP nosodes in Google.   There are some out there with
50% success rates.


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for
 FIP.
 Sharyl

 - Original Message -
 From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

 Christiane Biagi
 Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

 Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

 Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it.
 The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for
 it if given the vaccination..
 
 This is too important not to mention
 
 L
   - Original Message -
   From: Lee Evans
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
 
   There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.
 FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health
 in general.  Lee
 
 
 
   From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
 
 
   YES!
 
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
   Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?
 
 
   On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za
 wrote:
   Hi Everyone
 
   I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
 
   Details:
   Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at
 all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on
 the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a
 round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still
 isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours,
 more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
 
   Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not
 FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does
 vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is
 long-haired, so I don't think it is related.
 
   Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV).
 We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the
 booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every
 year.
 
   If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
 
   Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
 else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
   Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine,
 hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6
 years.
   Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot
 of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was
 then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so
 settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I
 think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would
 groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has
 immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home?
   Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
 lives with a reasonable quality?
 
   Thanks so much in advance. And sorry 

Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
There are drops that are put into the nose for FIP as a vaccine . Reliable 
diagnosis is based on all the symptoms put together and much more easily 
recognized when it’s the wet form of FIP with “ascites’.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 

This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for FIP.  

Sharyl

 

- Original Message -
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



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  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer 

[Felvtalk] FW: My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
 

 

Actually, the feral cat, Corgi, who had a blood clot, couldn't move hind
legs at all, clot was dissolved, who has a limp now - IS orange! After he
was treated, he became one of the most friendly cats in our household, and
all the cats that are with him absolutely adore him - he's a real caretaker
kitty! There's something about all cats, whether tabbies, white, orange,
buff, black, very specific to how they look.  Natalie 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

 

Terri,

 

So sorry for your loss of Siggie.  Orange tabbies are very dear to my heart!
RIP, Siggie.

 

Hugs to you Terri~

Lynda

 

 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I'm so sorry, Terri. What a lovely boy.

 

Diane R.

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:24 AM
To: RQP; felvtalk; Persian_Rescue; FLUTD listserv
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

 


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Hello everyone,

 

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

 

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT
have FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005
(right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

 

He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.
He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him,
soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had
fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had
threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

 

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

 

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss
you forever.

 

 


 
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May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and
Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^=

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[Felvtalk] FW: FW: My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
 

Actually, the feral cat, Corgi, who had a blood clot, couldn't move hind
legs at all, clot was dissolved, who has a limp now - IS orange! After he
was treated, he became one of the most friendly cats in our household, and
all the cats that are with him absolutely adore him - he's a real caretaker
kitty! There's something about all cats, whether tabbies, white, orange,
buff, black, very specific to how they look.  Natalie 

 

 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread dlgegg
So sorry for your loss, but glad that he is no longer hurting.  

 Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote: 
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 Hello everyone,
 
 Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.
 
 Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me 
 for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT 
 have FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 
 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).
 
 He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.  
 He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, 
 soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had 
 fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had 
 threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.
 
 The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he 
 ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they 
 injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.
 
 Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss 
 you forever.
 
   
 https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=3a9610d4bfac09dfpage=playresid=3A9610D4BFAC09DF!146parid=3A9610D4BFAC09DF!145type=1authkey=!AN4ArYWGx0C175c
  
   May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012 
 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
 Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie 
 the Tomato Vampire =^..^=
 These photos will be available on SkyDrive for 30 days. To learn more about 
 SkyDrive, click herehttp://g.msn.com/1cl91enus/PMFooter.
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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

2012-02-16 Thread dlgegg
I get my negative cats vaccinnated for FELV every year because Annie and Nitnoy 
are positive.  Neiter one sows signs of being sick, sleek and shiny coats, both 
on the small side. I would get al your babies on good food without fillers, 
corn, wheat and soy, give them lots of love and if something doesn't look 
right, get to the vet.  aS FOR KITTY #2, MY cASEY DOES THAT AND SHE IS LONG 
HAIRED.  i GIVE HER HAIRBALL MEDS AND ALSO CHANGED THEIR FOOD TO bLUE bUFFALO.  
i ALSO STARTED GIVING MORE CANNED FOOD (1 CAN FOOD MIXED WIT 3 CANS OF HOT 
WATER divided up by 7 cats)  I feed more often, but this way they get more 
liquid.  This seems to help Casey and Homey who has problems with crystals in 
her urine.  Hope you #1 kitty perks up.  Could be he will aways be on the small 
sde.  My Lil Bit and Nitnoy stay at 6 lbs and they are healthy an sassy.


 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My vet said as long as there are Felv+ cats that the negatives are exposed 
 to. 
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
 2010. 
 
 On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?
  
  
  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone
   
  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
  precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
  positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
   
  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
  He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
  skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a 
  round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still 
  isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, 
  more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
   
  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
  currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
  This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
  don't think it is related.  
   
  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We 
  had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the 
  booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every 
  year.
   
  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
   
  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
  up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
  is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
  vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something 
  else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
  noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
  lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
  thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
  neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
  with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
  must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him 
  on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
  being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
  lives with a reasonable quality?
   
  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
   
  Vicky
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread dlgegg
did she also have a tendecy to avoid the liter box.  Casey does that.


 Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's 
 long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits 
 clear liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd 
 have him checked for a renal condition.
 Cats with CRF throw up very often, I had a 10 yr old  that was sick almost 
 every other day, she was fine otherwise but her kidneys were failing. I 
 didn't know the first year until she had a senior panel.
 So if you haven't done it, I'd suggest you go that route for him.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread gary
can you refer me to info that says FIP vaccine makes cat test positive? 
Can't say that I have heard that before.  I do know that if the cat was 
previously exposed to corona vitus, it is ineffective.


Gary

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP


Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!




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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Lynda Wilson
All cats are very dear to me, they are a big part of my family and are treated 
that way. But all the orange kitties I've had, have been extremely loveable. 
They all leave paw prints on my heart :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: GRAS 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:02 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My Siggie


   

   

  Actually, the feral cat, Corgi, who had a blood clot, couldn't move hind legs 
at all, clot was dissolved, who has a limp now - IS orange! After he was 
treated, he became one of the most friendly cats in our household, and all the 
cats that are with him absolutely adore him - he's a real caretaker kitty! 
There's something about all cats, whether tabbies, white, orange, buff, black, 
very specific to how they look.  Natalie 

   

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:10 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

   

  Terri,

   

  So sorry for your loss of Siggie.  Orange tabbies are very dear to my heart! 
RIP, Siggie.

   

  Hugs to you Terri~

  Lynda

 

 


 

 



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Re: [Felvtalk] I am always with her

2012-02-16 Thread Lynda Wilson
This is so beautiful! So glad you shared it with us :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: GRAS 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:48 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] I am always with her


  For everyone who has lost a precious feline! Natalie

  I Am Always With Her

   

  And God Asked the Feline Spirit,

  Are you Ready to Come Home?

  Oh Yes, Quite So, Replied the Precious Soul,

  And As a Cat, You Know I Am Most Able To

  Decide Anything For Myself.Are You Coming Then? Asked God.

  Soon, Replied the Whiskered Angel, For You See, I Must Come Slowly,

  For My Human Friend is Troubled and Sad and She Needs Me Quite Certainly.

   

  Doesn't She Understand, Asked God, That You Will Never Leave Her

  That Your Souls Are Intertwined For All Eternity.

  That Nothing Is Created or Destroyed! 

  It Just Is.Forever and Ever.

   

  Eventually She Will Understand, Replied the Glorious Cat 

  For I Will Whisper Into Her Heart That I Am Always With Her!

  I Just Am, Forever and Ever

   

   



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Re: [Felvtalk] I am always with her

2012-02-16 Thread Marcia
Thank you so much Natalie(-:  it's beautiful!



Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:48 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 For everyone who has lost a precious feline! Natalie
 “I Am Always With Her”
  
 And God Asked the Feline Spirit,
 Are you Ready to Come Home?
 Oh Yes, Quite So, Replied the Precious Soul,
 “And As a Cat, You Know I Am Most Able To
 Decide Anything For Myself…Are You Coming Then? Asked God.
 Soon, Replied the Whiskered Angel, For You See, I Must Come Slowly,
 For My Human Friend is Troubled and Sad and She Needs Me Quite Certainly…
  
 Doesn’t She Understand, Asked God, “That You Will Never Leave Her”
 That Your Souls Are Intertwined For All Eternity…
 That Nothing Is Created or Destroyed!
 It Just Is…Forever and Ever…
  
 Eventually She Will Understand, Replied the Glorious Cat
 For I Will Whisper Into Her Heart That I Am Always With Her!
 “I Just Am, Forever and Ever”
  
  
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